Quick and dirty ascending with an ATC-- Guide or plain/XP

[dougr]

Not much info on the 'net about this for the plain/XP ATC. Here are some photos I took the other day while messing around. If you ever find yourself with very minimal gear and the need to ascend, all three ATC's can be rigged in progress capture mode to enable ascending by arm with a simple rope grab above. The Guide can do this double line obviously too.

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Not sure of the load rating of using one of the ATC's slots. Anyone?

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[Kuya]

Now THIS is something that we should be discussing in a canyoneering Forum!!! :D Love it. I will have to go home and try this out. Thanks for sharing :) I love learning stuff like this

[deagol]

Now THIS is something that we should be discussing in a canyoneering Forum!!! :D Love it. I will have to go home and try this out. Thanks for sharing :) I love learning stuff like this

Just make sure you are high when you try it :wink:
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[Iceaxe]

:popcorn:

[Brian in SLC]

Not much info on the 'net about this for the plain/XP ATC. Here are some photos I took the other day while messing around. If you ever find yourself with very minimal gear and the need to ascend, all three ATC's can be rigged in progress capture mode to enable ascending by arm with a simple rope grab above.

Hmmm. I don't think the ATC and/or ATC/XP can be used that way (they aren't progress capture devices....the ATC Guide is like a plaquette and weill capture progress if used correctly), and, it looks like you've got the ATC Guide rigged...well...strangely. Or, incorrectly.

Here's kind of a way to do it:

http://www.climbing.com/skill/rappel-to-ascend/

Pretty clunky way to ascend. I'd probably opt for Prusiks...

[dougr]

Hmmm. I don't think the ATC and/or ATC/XP can be used that way (they aren't progress capture devices....

It works just fine, but more directly it's just the normal and designed-for guide mode rigged in a different orientation. Nor different from the ATS' ascension mode. It's all the same.



Pretty clunky way to ascend. I'd probably opt for Prusiks...

It's smooth, the 3 to 1 is easy, and being on both feet while going over edges mid-jug and the lip at top-jug is welcome. Not to mention two connections from rope to harness for safety.

[USofCS]

I would suggest locking the carabiners! :2thumbs:

[hank moon]

It's smooth, the 3 to 1 is easy <snip>

Clean and dry conditions, with new-ish supple rope (Sterling, pictured?) I imagine it could be this way.

Wet and sandy with a well-worn, stiff rope?

Let's see the comparison video !

In any case, might beat hanging around on the bottom of something if you have no other options. At the very least, the struggle to ascend would warm you up.

Interesting that progress capture might work with a non-guide ATC...

Thanks for posting up. Now, how about that video? :mrgreen:

[dougr]

Dirty and stiff rope, point taken. This ultimately is a redux of Sterling's own method with the ATS, here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbuB5ZxNXM). Compare also to a typical foot loop barebones method, like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM9KUsQ0RkU).