3 locations for canyoneering in Capitol Reef National Park SLTribune, 040814

[rick t]

CAPITOL REEF NATIONAL PARK

[Iceaxe]

Lame reporting.... They didn't even manage to get one of the three best slots in Capitol Reef on their list.

[Bootboy]

Fluff piece or free advertising

Both.

[Scott P]

They didn't even manage to get one of the three best slots in Capitol Reef on their list.

Which are the three?

Pandoras, Poe, Burro, Cottonwood, or Fivemile perhaps?

Anyway, to be fair, the article does just say three places, rather than the three best places.

[deagol]

I hate when people write articles like this.... how long till a permit system ?

I thought guide services were not allowed to operate in national parks ???

[Iceaxe]

I thought guide services were not allowed to operate in national parks ???

Guiding inside a National Park is up to the individual park, some allow it and others do not.

[deagol]

hmm, thanks. So, apparently Capitol Reef allows it

[Scott P]

Most allow it. It's only a few that don't.

Thousands of people are guided up places like Mount Rainier, Denali, Grand Teton, etc.

Even in places like Zion, guiding is allowed, just not for canyoneering and some other activities.

[deagol]

true, Scott. I was thinking Arches & Zion. The parks you listed seem to have more a "need' due to their more serious terrain (not that these other parks don't have serious terrain). Hope that makes sense

[Bootboy]

Guiding in parks nauseates me. I hate it when the groups of Exum clients are clogging up the Grand Teton. Then you have to listen to them on the summit talk about how much they know about all that shit after a 2 day course. They get a brief geology lesson and they won't stop talking like over-night experts on the stuff they had no clue existed until 2 days ago.

The folks on Rainier are just as bad. They stop and lecture you on safety because you're not doing things the way their guides taught them 3 hours ago. "That's not how you tie a kiwi coil" blah blah blah...

I rue the day that this criminal enterprise finds it's way into Zion. People paying $500 for a 2 trip through Imlay with a fancy dinner prepared in a big tent at the crossroads and sleeping on cots...

[Scott P]

I was thinking Arches & Zion

It's actually allowed there too, just not for technical stuff.

Random examples:

http://www.rei.com/adventures/trips/namer/arc.html

http://www.rei.com/adventures/trips/weekend/family-zion-hiking.html

[deagol]

Guiding in parks nauseates me. I hate it when the groups of Exum clients are clogging up the Grand Teton. Then you have to listen to them on the summit talk about how much they know about all that shit after a 2 day course. They get a brief geology lesson and they won't stop talking like over-night experts on the stuff they had no clue existed until 2 days ago.

The folks on Rainier are just as bad. They stop and lecture you on safety because you're not doing things the way their guides taught them 3 hours ago. "That's not how you tie a kiwi coil" blah blah blah...

I rue the day that this criminal enterprise finds it's way into Zion. People paying $500 for a 2 trip through Imlay with a fancy dinner prepared in a big tent at the crossroads and sleeping on cots...

Amen, and that story about Ranier is quite amusing


It's actually allowed there too, just not for technical stuff.

Random examples:

http://www.rei.com/adventures/trips/namer/arc.html

http://www.rei.com/adventures/trips/weekend/family-zion-hiking.html

OMG , REI will hold your hand if you pay $$$ and want your hand held for a hike in a national park- the Emerald Pools Trail, no less ??

[Iceaxe]

We have all been guided before. It might have been a commercial guide or a friend or parent.... but we have all been there....

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Bootboy]

We have all been guided before. It might have been a commercial guide or a friend or parent.... but we have all been there....

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

Money being the major difference

[Iceaxe]

Money being the major difference

Yeah I see the difference.... I only guide for beer or sexual favors.... oh... and sometimes money :-)

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3