Zions in May

[kokopelli99]

Looking for suggestions for canyoneering in Zions in May. I've been down Mystery and Birch Hollow, but nothing else in Zions so far. Don't know if waiting till heat of Summer is significantly better or not.

[TommyBoy]

May can be chilly if you're doing wet canyons, but with proper protection its not bad. That time of year I would suggest spry and pine creek as really good canyons. Also that would be a great time to do fat mans misery, the canyon is short and there is a lot of hiking involved so doing it when its not as hot during the day is a great idea. There are some that dislike Behunin, but I had a blast when I did it for the first time so I would consider that one as well. The problem with waiting for the heat of the summer is then you either have to start at a ridiculous time in the morning or end up doing the approach hike in the heat.

[deagol]

Is it Zions Bank that people confuse with Zion National Park ?? :ne_nau:

[Scott P]

Is it Zions Bank that people confuse with Zion National Park ?? :ne_nau:

Must be. Seems to be a Utah thing. Usually it is the out of state tourist that happen to mispronounce places they are visiting, but in Utah, it's all the in staters mispronouncing the National Park. No one from out of state that I know of calls it Zions, but you hear it all the time from Utahns. I think it is because of the bank.

[ratagonia]

Is it Zions Bank that people confuse with Zion National Park ?? :ne_nau:

They are hard to confuse.

Kokopelli - Zions Banks are effectively climate-controlled and well insulated from the elements, so I do not think there will be any difficulties with discomfort while you are there.

Tom

[Kuya]

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:bootyshake:

You guys are going to waste away your lives trying to convince everyone in Utah to say say ZION instead of ZIONS. and guess what, it doesn't even matter!

[Attila]

That bank name has always drove me crazy. Shouldn't it be Zion's bank or Zion Banks? Zions Bank is all wrong.

And yes, the mispronouncing of the park name gets me also.

[Scott P]

That bank name has always drove me crazy. Shouldn't it be Zion's bank or Zion Banks? Zions Bank is all wrong.

It appears that it was intentional. Looking it up, it used to be Zion's until they merged with Utah Savings and Trust Company and First National Bank in 1957 and then became Zions First National Bank.


You guys are going to waste away your lives trying to convince everyone in Utah to say say ZION instead of ZIONS.

Nah, everyone knows where Zions National Park is. It's right by Springdales. Duh! :haha:

Anyway, some more people should answer kokopelli's question (Tom?). It's been a dry year thus far, so it's possible that canyons will be under summer conditions much earlier than normal. Even Echo Canyon was snow free and nearly dry in mid-May 2007 when we did it.

It's too early to tell how things will shake out by then, but some canyons worth considering would be Hidden, Behunin, Misery, Spry, or Icebox. If conditions continue to be dry, there would be a lot more options (for somewhat normal [if there is such a thing] conditions-obviously canyons have been descended in winter and during the off season). Imlay might even be good in May if you are prepared. The potholes may (or may not) be mostly full then. Orderville or Right Fork might be good with a good wetsuit.

Anyway, reservations for May opened up March 5. If you want a permit for a popular canyon, at least on a weekend, the earlier the better.

[ratagonia]

Anyway, some more people should answer kokopelli's question (Tom?).

I answered the question he asked. If he asks about Zion National Park, I would be glad to offer up an opinion on that.

We have different words to label different things to keep them distinct.

(Hard to say about May in Zion National Park. A lot can happen between now and then. Might actually have some winter.)

Tom

[kokopelli99]

I actually grew up in Chicago area, but I've lived in Utah so long now that I guess I've been corrupted.

[TommyBoy]

I didn't want to mention any of the harder ones like Imlay since from the two canyons listed and lack of experience mentioned I figured he was a beginner. Icebox is an awesome canyon and not that hard, but it is a LOT of work for the canyon you get. What you get though is quite scenic and worth it at least once though. If my assumption was right and you are a beginner, make sure you take the north pass route.

[ratagonia]

Looking for suggestions for canyoneering in Zions in May. I've been down Mystery and Birch Hollow, but nothing else in Zions so far. Don't know if waiting till heat of Summer is significantly better or not.

http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/zion/

http://www.store.canyoneeringusa.com/index.php?option=com_rokecwid&Itemid=108#!/~/product/category=2490778&id=10914091

Jus' sayin'...

[Slot Machine]

While cashing a check at Zions today I asked the cashier if anyone had ever rappelled through the ceiling into their bank vault, Mission Impossible style.

She said yes, that she could show me how to, but then I couldn't tell anyone. She then said it would be OK if I wanted to show other people in the future.

I was very confused, but agreed to her terms and conditions.

So, Kokopelli, now that this beta has been shared with me, I can show you how to rappel in Zions this May. I just can't tell you about it on the interwebs.

[Scott P]

Cardinal Sins of Canyoneering

1. Pushing over goblins
2. G-pick
3. Trespassing on the Navajo Nation
4. Spraying beta about the Fiery Furnace
5. Taking noobs into Chambers
6. Making woopie on the watertank near the MIA
7. Referring to Zion as Zions

:mrgreen:

[Slot Machine]

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Calling our beloved park Zions is worse than CANCER, Blakes!

[2065toyota]

The Zions thing

Kinda OCD.

It actually annoys mainly only utah people. Especially the ones who can't pronounce the 'A' in Hurricane.

"Zions" images. Straight from Bing
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[2065toyota]

My recommendation is to do whatever canyon you feel like doing and are prepared for. Most canyons in "Zion" have been done at all times of the year.

[Taylor]

My favorite canyon to do in Zion in May is: anything you can get a permit for. There is no bad time of year to do a canyon in Zion, there are only poor gear choices.
Scott P, you can't drop a line like #6 above without sharing details. Spill.

[deagol]

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You guys are going to waste away your lives trying to convince everyone in Utah to say say ZION instead of ZIONS. and guess what, it doesn't even matter!

Yeah, I have already spent many years on this mission, and sadly I haven't yet converted a single soul
:roll:

[Scott P]

Scott P (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=213), you can't drop a line like #6 above without sharing details.

It wasn't me who did it, but it is one of the rumored incidences that lead to the closure of Oak Creek. It's on an old canyons group post, but the search function on that forum doesn't seem to work anymore.

[Kuya]

Calling our beloved park Zions is worse than CANCER, Blakes!

:roflmao1:

[iflycr500]

Just picked up permits for the Subway May 8th, Pine creek on the 9th and Spry for Sat. the 10th. If the weather is good should be a great trip, If weather is bad im out 15 bucks.


Cody, You going to be around?

[kokopelli99]

Wouldn't say I am a beginner but not advanced either. very good downclimber, but knowledge of knots is not that great and got a lot to learn about pothole escapes.

[2065toyota]

Just picked up permits for the Subway May 8th, Pine creek on the 9th and Spry for Sat. the 10th. If the weather is good should be a great trip, If weather is bad im out 15 bucks.


Cody, You going to be around?

I'm always around :haha:

Look me up when you get into town. You know I'm always game for about anything

[Otis]

Ok I'm obviously new here, but of all the stupid things people say, this bugs me!! I'm not talking about Zions, although that is dumb. I'm referring back to 2065toyotas post about Hurricane. Thank You!! Hurricane should be pronounced with the long A. I lived there for years and all of the people that pronounce it Hurrican sound ridiculous. That is my rant, probably the only time I will ever post on here.

Please refer to the Scorpions and their song "Rock You Like A Hurricane"

[oldno7]

Thats--Hurrcn

[hank moon]

It wasn't me who did it, but it is one of the rumored incidences that lead to the closure of Oak Creek. It's on an old canyons group post, but the search function on that forum doesn't seem to work anymore.

http://canyoncollective.com/threads/status-of-oak-creek-access-sf-oak-not-closed.14412/

Quote from this thread:

"It seems like a few of the members of the Canyons group are a few pees short of a hole pee pod." :mrgreen:

The best way to dig up old nuggets from the Canyons Group is at the Canyon Collective, which houses the archive and provides a superior search engine to Yahoo's.

[Glenn]

The Zions thing

Kinda OCD.

It actually annoys mainly only utah people. Especially the ones who can't pronounce the 'A' in Hurricane.

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Well the Hurricane pronunciation is harder to get right. Until you actually hear someone say it, can't really tell. I didn't hear it spoken out loud for a couple years of visiting up there before I figured it out.

[erial]

While behind this vehicle in Zion, I did a double take . . .

73762

. . . but when I got closer: oh, it's a 5, nevermind.

73765

[accadacca]

Nice! :lol8:


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