Robbers Roost Distance to Lodging

[LJF]

Looking to determine how long of a drive under good circumstances from Robbers Roost to Hanksville or other lodging. Into canyoneering but not into camping out. Thanks.

[Scott P]

Plan on 1-2 hours, depending on which canyons and road conditions.

[Kuya]

nearest is going to be Hanksville or Green River. Might try to map it with Google maps. I know doing that really helps me get a good estimate when I'm planning my trips.

[peakbaggers]

Looking to determine how long of a drive under good circumstances from Robbers Roost to Hanksville or other lodging. Into canyoneering but not into camping out. Thanks.

From the HWY 24 turnoff about 20 miles north of Hanksville, it's a minimum of about 45 minutes to one hour driving one way on sections of frequently and badly washboarded roads to get in the vicinity of Granary Springs and canyons like Blue Johns, Mindbenders, Larry, Alcatraz, etc. Hanksville has very limited lodging choices, Green River has numerous choices. You can also drive in directly from Green River on graded dirt road that has some slower sections and some fast. Takes more time to drive in that way than to stay on pavement from Green river down HWy 24 to the turnoff north of Hanksville and drive in from there. Maybe 15 minutes extra. After you drive both dirt roads, you may change your mind about camping. Some vehicles handle the washboards with little problem. Other vehicles, like our pickup with stiffer suspension, get rattled to death.

[Iceaxe]

To do the Roost you really need to camp. I always option for a motel when given a choice, but when we do Roost canyons we camp.

And your motel options suck.... Hanksville has got to be the biggest shit hole in Utah, and about the only thing that saves Green River from earning that title is that Hanksville exists.

YMMV

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[mzamp]

To do the Roost you really need to camp. I always option for a motel when given a choice, but when we do Roost canyons we camp.

And your motel options suck.... Hanksville has got to be the biggest shit hole in Utah, and about the only thing that saves Green River from earning that title is that Hanksville exists.

YMMV

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

Mexican Hat gets my vote

[ratagonia]

Looking to determine how long of a drive under good circumstances from Robbers Roost to Hanksville or other lodging. Into canyoneering but not into camping out. Thanks.

not into camping? Robber's Roost would then be your WORST choice of a place to canyon.

From the "charming" motels in Hanksville, it is a half-hour drive to North Wash and a wide selection, wide variety of canyons.

If you have not worked through the minislots, they offer an alternative to the normal squeeze and scrapefest canyons in North Wash:

http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/minislot/

Tom

[davehuth]

To do the Roost you really need to camp. I always option for a motel when given a choice, but when we do Roost canyons we camp.

And your motel options suck.... Hanksville has got to be the biggest shit hole in Utah, and about the only thing that saves Green River from earning that title is that Hanksville exists.



The place on 95 heading out of town toward North Wash really isn't that bad... and they used to give Sunday night free (don't know if that is still the case but I'd ask about it).

[Iceaxe]

The place on 95 heading out of town toward North Wash really isn't that bad...

I believe you mean not that bad compared to the other Hanksville options, which isn't saying much.... the motel of which you speak is called "Whispering Sands", and it's where I stay when forced to stay in Hanksville. It is often outrageously priced for what you get, but I guess you can price gouge when you're the only cockroach free motel in town.



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[boryaa]

Hmm I don't know but i thought that the motel in Hanksville was great. Didn't really feel like a motel but rather a hotel. Especially after a long day in the Roost.

[Bootboy]

Distance to lodging depends on where my tent is.

[Bootboy]

Oh yeah, about your question...

What kind of panty-waist claims to enjoy canyoneering and visiting these remote and hidden places but isn't willing to spend a night in a tent as the price of admission to wilderness?

Grow a pair and sleep in a damn tent.

How far away does lodging have to be from a given location for you to consider not going there at all?

Sheesh...

Are you by chance from out of state? Say... California maybe?

[Scott P]

I wouldn't go as far as Bootboy goes, but something does seem slightly weird.


What kind of panty-waist claims to enjoy canyoneering and visiting these remote and hidden places

This was posted a few months ago:

A buddy in Park City and I are heading out to southern Utah in late October and targeting the Escalante area as it seems there are a lot of great looking non-technical slots. I've done close to half of the Virgin Narrows and it was amazing so now looking at other slots.

So it seems the original poster has done "close to half of the Virgin Narrows" and perhaps one or two non technical slots, is now into canyoneering, and is heading to the Roost.

I'd highly recommend a meetup group.

[oldno7]

Shane
You want to get started on plans for refurbishing Motel 6?
I'll arrange my schedule for construction once we get approval.

Seriously--go camp, it creates memories and the bad ones you remember and talk about the most.

[Slot Machine]

I always marvel at dudes that attach distinctly different activities as if they were inseparable. For example, redneck NASCAR dude attaches drinking Bud Light, listening to country music, wearing Wranglers and chewing tobacco to their sport, as if inseparable.

Canyoneers do this with camping, like you are insulting your own genitalia if you don't take shelter in a tent. :facepalm1: Why the fetish for sleeping on the ground after doing a canyon? Not sure. I like a hot shower and a warm bed after a canyon (and cold beer in the hot tub, if an option). Setting up camp and cooking my own food is a pain in the ass. Camping has its nice moments, and we do when we must, but I'd rather spend those calories battling a canyon.

However, I might approach things a little differently than the unemployable -I think of my time as being worth $$$ an hour, every hour of the day. If I spend two hours setting up camp, then I should have purchased a room and a meal. Not to mention time wasted loading the car with all the camping supplies. :wallbash:

So, my two cents on motels in the Hanksville:

The Whispering Sands is nice. We've stayed there about 15 times in the past two years. Use a AAA card, then split the room with a friend to save some cash.

DO NOT stay at the Hanksville Inn, it is the definition of a shithole. Please see my review:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g57006-d1413453-r119729642-Hanksville_Inn-Hanksville_Utah.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT

There is a newly reopened restaurant across the road from the Hanksville Inn. It is under new management, and the food is superb!

In Green River, stay at the Robbers Roost Motel. Super cheap, and not gross. The folks that run that motel are very nice.

The Knights Inn is also OK in a pinch.

[Scott P]

Canyoneers do this with camping, like you are insulting your own genitalia if you don't take shelter in a tent. :facepalm1:

It appears only one canyoneer eluded to that, and perhaps it was tongue in cheek or he was just in a bad mood at the time. Not that big of a deal, really.

I think a lot of us have stayed in hotels while on a canyoneering trip. The Roost is just a weird place to do it. I guess if you include places like Moonshine Wash or North Wash as part of the Roost (some people do), those places are more accessible to hotels. There's also the Ticaboo Lodge that is near some good canyons.

When Lake Powell isn't in season with boaters you can actually get good deals at places like Whispering Sands or Ticaboo Lodge. When Lake Powell is "in", rates skyrocket.

[Iceaxe]

However, I might approach things a little differently than the unemployable -I think of my time as being worth $$$ an hour, every hour of the day. If I spend two hours setting up camp, then I should have purchased a room and a meal. Not to mention time wasted loading the car with all the camping supplies. :wallbash:

This has always been my approach.... Time=Money.... For the time I waste loading and unloading camping gear I can stay in one of the nicer motels in Moab or Springdale.

Camping is just an additional hassle you have to deal with.... kinda like having to buy your date dinner before you can bang her.



In Green River, stay at the Robbers Roost Motel. Super cheap, and not gross.

I used to stay there sometimes, but last time I did the sheets looked more like used toilet paper, so I haven't been back. That was probably 7 or 8 years ago.

I've been reading the reviews of the Hanksville Inn for years, they are always good for a laugh.

[Scott P]

Just for the heck of it, here are the canyoneering areas in Utah that are generally close to hotels:

Zion (especially the Zion Canyon area)
Moab
Escalante/Boulder-areas around the towns, not the whole river complex
Capitol Reef (northern sections of the park)

If you count places like the yurts in Goblin Valley, parts of the Swell too.

[moab mark]

This thread has been a good laugh. Carry on........

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[Sandstone Addiction]

Take your carefully driven luxury hotel with you and pick your view.

Best to inquire about road conditions before you head out though, but usually not a problem.


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[LJF]

Oh yeah, about your moronic response, Bootboy, what does it matter to you why we'd prefer lodging to camping? Is your life that shallow that you cruise forums to post ignorant responses?

BTW, I'm from NJ not CA and your woman thought my pair didn't need to grow anymore.

Go brush your tooth.

[LJF]

Ok Scott, I never claimed to be an expert in canyoneering so no need to redicule me. My buddies are and I'm looking to get into it more so I'm sure the roost will be a great way to do that.

[LJF]

Well put Slot Machine. Boot boy probably has inappropriate relations with his sister in his tent that he's so proud of sleeping in so what should anyone expect from a tool like him?

[LJF]

Thanks peakbaggers

[deagol]

:popcorn:

[flatiron]

Hey, I saw one of those nice RV's in the Roost last year - we could not figure how they made it in due to the some of the sand bars needed to drive over. :ne_nau:
Amazing!

[flatiron]

There is a newly reopened restaurant across the road from the Hanksville Inn. It is under new management, and the food is superb!


Hmmm, don't want to go all sissy here, but you need to be a raging carnivore to 'like' the new menu. But if so, it might be great food. Just a heads up for those not so gastronomically inclined.
:eek2:

[TommyBoy]

Oh yeah, about your moronic response, Bootboy, what does it matter to you why we'd prefer lodging to camping? Is your life that shallow that you cruise forums to post ignorant responses?

BTW, I'm from NJ not CA and your woman thought my pair didn't need to grow anymore.

Go brush your tooth.

While bootboy wasn't nice about his reply you seem to have stooped to his lvl in this response and the one to slot machine. Just ignore stuff like that and move on.

[Slot Machine]

While bootboy wasn't nice about his reply you seem to have stooped to his lvl in this response and the one to slot machine. Just ignore stuff like that and move on.

Bah! What is the sport in that, Tom? (friendly tone) :mrgreen: :twisted:

LVL just needs to learn the ropes around here. Flinging poo like a monkey is frowned upon (your woman thought my pair blah blah), while being clever with your words earns bonus points.

Imagine yourself as a cranky canyoneer that is trying to be civilized. Then you will fit right in. :cool2:


Hmmm, don't want to go all sissy here, but you need to be a raging carnivore to 'like' the new menu. But if so, it might be great food. Just a heads up for those not so gastronomically inclined.

Compared to Blondie's or Stan's, it is world-class cuisine!

But you are right, it is carnivore oriented. I normally eat a vegan diet, and there were no vegan options. However, the food my friends and I had was VERY tasty. Being in such a remote area, we were shocked at the selection and quality.

[Scott P]

Ok Scott, I never claimed to be an expert in canyoneering so no need to redicule me.

No, I hope I didn't really ridicule that much, at least not harshly, but only thought the question was "weird" (not because of canyoneering and hotels, but because the Roost and hotels combo). The Meet Up thing is an ongoing joke. Perhaps it was harsh, even if meant to be funny. I also made some suggestions on canyon areas close to hotels.

Trust me, us canyoneers like to rib, poke, and tease each other a lot and even get into the occasional flame war. If you do get rescued or injured (regardless of experience level), for God's sake, don't post it in a trip report. :wink: And certainly don't post any photos without helmets. :moses: It's probably not a good idea to take a tuxedo either.

(PS, I do think Bootboy's post was a bit harsh).


My buddies are and I'm looking to get into it more so I'm sure the roost will be a great way to do that.

Well, yes and no, and depending on the canyon. There are some easy canyons in the Roost, but it's a long way from rescue service and does seem to be a magnet for mishaps. As Tom mentioned, it's one of the worst places to go if you want to stay in a hotel. Keep in mind that you will also be losing 2-4 hours per day (round trip) in drive time for most of the canyons, if staying in Hanksville or Green River.

Assuming you do want to stay in a hotel to go to the Roost:

For the main part of the Roost, Bluejohn is probably your best bet. For the greater Roost, Moonshine, Three Canyon complex, the canyons near the Angel Trail, Poison Springs, or North Wash are all good bets.

Most of the Bluejohn system, minus the Squeeze Fork is pretty good for competent beginners. Moonshine is great for beginners. North Fork Robbers Roost is really good for competent beginners, but the climb out can be intimidating for some. If you go to the Roost, I'd start with those.

For staying in hotels, I think the other areas I listed in a previous post are better bets, but wherever you go, have a good, fun, and safe trip.

[TommyBoy]

Slot Machine, I guess you do have a point. Aside from the freezefest reports, things have been a little slow around here lately. Its almost like no one is doing any canyoneering lately. Guess I'll have to break down and post a report from my trip to DV

[deagol]

this could be a good opportunity to show an example of the preferred Robber's Roost canyoneering attire to those unfamiliar with it...

[oldno7]

I think beginners could focus on the poison spring area out of Hanksville and be quite content for several days, while getting in some nice canyons.

[MrAdam]

How has no one mentioned the Motel 6 that is right at the trailhead for the Blue John canyons? That is five star lodging right there.

[Scott P]

How has no one mentioned the Motel 6 that is right at the trailhead for the Blue John canyons?

Oldno7 mentioned it on the previous page. I've actually set up my tent inside it a few times when it was really windy. I've also slept in there without the tent. The only reason for the tent was to make sure that there were no mice.

[Bootboy]

Well put Slot Machine. Boot boy probably has inappropriate relations with his sister in his tent that he's so proud of sleeping in so what should anyone expect from a tool like him?

You're totally right. That's why I sleep in a tent.

I guess you would need a place to plug in you curling iron and blow dryer...

[LJF]

Iceaxe, too funny regarding
"Camping is just an additional hassle you have to deal with.... kinda like having to buy your date dinner before you can bang her"

[LJF]

You're a brave Bootboy spewing all your crap from behind a keyboard. Face to face, I highly doubt you'd be talking the same stupid crap. Remember, your the one that initiated my responses so if you're going to talk trash, be man enough to accept what comes back at you, little Bootboy

[LJF]

Thanks for that advice oldno7

[LJF]

Little Bootboy with more brave talk from behind his keyboard. You're right, I need to plug in the curling iron, blow dryer & don't forget, my electric blanket in case I get cold out there.

[Bootboy]

You're a brave Bootboy spewing all your crap from behind a keyboard. Face to face, I highly doubt you'd be talking the same stupid crap. Remember, your the one that initiated my responses so if you're going to talk trash, be man enough to accept what comes back at you, little Bootboy

Well if you make post saying you want a wilderness experience with out having to, god forbid, sleep in a damn tent, be prepared to be called a wuss.

I would say it to your face. I'd tell you to man up and sleep on the ground, it's not that big of a deal.

So is that threat of physical violence?
Nice.

[Bootboy]

You're the sensitive one who first resorted to name calling and making lewd, incestuous jokes.

Lighten up dude.

[LJF]

Scott P, I like to bust people's balls as much as anyone. What you posted wasn't bad, I just didn't think you needed to harp on that I did 1/2 of the Narrows and a couple of non-technical slots. Its cool, no big deal.

I get it that this is a hard, dangerous hobby that needs to be respected in a huge way or else. I don't want anyone on this forum to think I'm naive about what you all do...its f-ing impressive to say the least. Who knows, we may just hike and take pictures and do some of the easy stuff that's within my capabilities on this trip.

Thanks again for that info.

[LJF]

Bootboy, I'm not looking for a fight with anyone and willing to call a truce and start from scratch with you but don't confuse the fact that you started the downward spiral of communications by calling me a "pantywaist" and that I needed to "grow a pair"

Like I said, if you throw that type of stuff at someone, what comes back may be even worse.

If I was looking for a fight I could call my ex-wife but I'm not so enough and peace out, OK?

[LJF]

One other thing Bootboy, I never said I wanted the whole wilderness experience. I get it that this may seem bizare to you but like some of the others that chimed in wrote, not everyone wants to camp out.

Honestly, I'd like to camp out more than stay in a hotel but my hips are shot and the last time I slept on the floor or ground I had trouble walking the next day. If I can't walk well, being in the Roost is not going to be smart or much fun. If I sleep on a bed, even a shitty one in Hanksville, I got a fighting chance after my meds kick in and I do my stretching, to do some hiking. Not like I used to but enough to enjoy the great surroundings and make it an enjoyable day. When I get my new hips soon, I probably will camp out there.

There you go, the real reason for preferring lodging.

[Iceaxe]

So when did "canyoneering" start to mean someone also wanted a wilderness experience? Some of my best weekends canyoneering have been when we did more of a "water park" approach.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[qedcook]

LJF, you'll have to get used to Bootboy. He'll be a total jerk, then tell you to lighten up when you say anything back. He's an elitist canyoneer and one of the more unpleasant members of bogley. But he likes himself, and that's all that matters to him.

[moab mark]

LJF to get this back on track what has peaked your interest in the Roost? As Scott has said there are a lot of nice places to go that aren't so freaking remote. I like Shane will always prefer a motel over a tent. Nothing better then a nice shower at the end of the day.

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[Bootboy]

So when did "canyoneering" start to mean someone also wanted a wilderness experience? Some of my best weekends canyoneering have been when we did more of a "water park" approach.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

I've done the one day, multi canyon blitzes, nothing wrong with that. But the remoteness of the Roost by its nature I think constitutes a wilderness experience, or something like unto it.

[Bootboy]

LJF, you'll have to get used to Bootboy. He'll be a total jerk, then tell you to lighten up when you say anything back. He's an elitist canyoneer and one of the more unpleasant members of bogley. But he likes himself, and that's all that matters to him.

Oh yeah, I do that all the time...
Pretty much my only contribution, if you even want to call it that. Therein lies the total invalidity of my entire membership here...

[LJF]

Moab Mark, agreed that there are many other awesome less remote area in Utah than the Roost. I've been to the 5 national parks several times and would go to any of them again. It's the remoteness and history of the Roost that interests my buddy and I.

Nothing definitive set up yet and plans could change but I'd say it's more than likely we head there.

[Sandstone Addiction]

For me, making day trips to the Roost from Hanksville wouldn't be that bad...if it weren't for the washboard roads. We were out there last April and it was mile after mile after long mile of constant pounding. I love the signs telling people to slow down--like anyone is going to do that.

For as much as the park service drives those roads, I wish they would occasionally drag some kind of chain harrow, or something similar, behind their trucks to help smooth it out. But I'm sure that's asking way too much.

That's why I was totally serious when I mentioned an RV. You have your comfy bed and everything else that goes with it, without the bone jarring commute everyday.

[Slot Machine]

this could be a good opportunity to show an example of the preferred Robber's Roost canyoneering attire to those unfamiliar with it...

Heck yes. Wear a tuxedo, or GTFO. :cool2: :haha:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?70544-Alcatraz


You're a brave Bootboy spewing all your crap from behind a keyboard. Face to face, I highly doubt you'd be talking the same stupid crap. Remember, your the one that initiated my responses so if you're going to talk trash, be man enough to accept what comes back at you, little Bootboy


I guess you would need a place to plug in you curling iron and blow dryer...

Clever burn scorecard:

LJF: 0 Bootboy: 0

:facepalm1: Most boring slap fight I've ever witnessed!

LJF, all you have to say is something like, "Tell me more about the zero times you have visited the Roost", then you score a point. Shortly thereafter a Bogley membership card will be mailed to your home. :lol8:

:popcorn:

[ratagonia]

Oh yeah, I do that all the time...
Pretty much my only contribution, if you even want to call it that. Therein lies the total invalidity of my entire membership here...

I thought snark, meanness and general obnoxiousness was a REQUIREMENT for "full" fellowship here on Bogley. Certainly LJF joined in on the food fight enthusiastically at an early point in his Bogley-career.

:moses:

[Erik B]

Motel 6? VERY cheap rates... Best game in town....
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[Slot Machine]

While Bootboy is out in the desert saying,

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I'm back at my motel like,

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[Bootboy]

I thought snark, meanness and general obnoxiousness was a REQUIREMENT for "full" fellowship here on Bogley. Certainly LJF joined in on the food fight enthusiastically at an early point in his Bogley-career.

:moses:

I wear my badge proudly

[LJF]

Nice lodging Erik B. I'm OK with that.

[spinesnaper]

I am loving this thread. Page 3 of this crap.:stud:

[Bootboy]

I'll bite.

Slotmachine: the guy who by his own admission, took twenty-something times to get the pack toss in the Squeeze.

My scrawny little self made it not once, but twice in a row with a one handed potshot toss. 2 for 2 baby.
I'm pretty much a badass...

Maybe your feeble old ass needs that motel bed right after your Bengay and Geritol....

Haha!

[Iceaxe]

Damn Bootboy.... if that is how you measure canyoneers then you must think of me as a God. I just free climbed the crux in the Squeeze.... at night... in a snow storm... with 20 pounds of sand in my pack.

And two hours after that I had a little bikini clad honey pouring my feeble ass a margarita as I lounged near the motel pool...

Haha!

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Bootboy]

Damn Bootboy.... if that is how you measure canyoneers then you must think of me as a God. I just free climbed the crux in the Squeeze.... at night... in a snow storm... with 20 pounds of sand in my pack.

And two hours after that I had a little bikini clad honey pouring my feeble ass a margarita as I lounged near the motel pool...

Haha!

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3


Dude, you've always been my hero.
I love you even more with that story

[boryaa]

Potatoes

[Slot Machine]

Maybe your feeble old ass needs that motel bed right after your Bengay and Geritol....

Perhaps you miss the most obvious benefit of the motel room (assuming that there is a Bootgirl in your life)? I don't know about you, but my best canyoneering is done during my refractory period. :naughty:

And that pothole nonsense won't happen twice (point scored for BB). Admittedly, I can't throw a potshot to save my life. Fortunately I'm friends with several talented canyoneers... if you aren't talented, bring people who are, as the saying goes. Some of those friends would be interested in throwing you across that pothole (not a threat of violence).

Wanna do The Squeeze with us this summer? :lol8:

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[Bootboy]

Refractory period! LMAO!

Forever alone....

We'll see you there! I'd actually love to meet several people from this site in person to do a canyon together. I really think it would be a riot.

I'm still packing the hotel Bibler though....

[Bootboy]

Meanwhile in Hanksville...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/12/yge5azu9.jpg

I get it, it's about running water, isn't it?

[Absolute Gravity]

Perhaps you miss the most obvious benefit of the motel room (assuming that there is a Bootgirl in your life)? I don't know about you, but my best canyoneering is done during my refractory period. :naughty:


I'm bringing extra Ambien next time we all split a room, just in case.

[AKsnowbiker]

The Wispering Sands motel in Hanksville was cheap and clean the last two Januarys I was in the Roost. Nice to get a shower and warm bed after winter canyoneering.