Announcing Bogley.com 5.0!

[accadacca]

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Thanks for your patience as we were having some technical difficulties. We mistakenly hired some developers from the HeathCare.gov project. Boy was that a mistake! :lol8:

You'll notice that we've changed some things. It was kinda like remodeling your kitchen. Once you start tearing into it, the project ends up being a much bigger endeavor then you expected.

The new skin is much more scalable for the future and we've needed to ditch our old skin for a while. I customized it from scratch and it was just not a long term solution. @Sombeech, my sever guy and a couple developer friends have helped when I could pry them away from work. Luckily I'm currently unemployed, which came in handy. :roll: I've been living on about 3 hours sleep a night this entire week. I'm starting to get sick from it all and my wife is barely talking to me. The worst is that I am exhausted, which makes it really hard when you have to concentrate and not screw stuff up.

Anyway, we hope you like the new design. You'll notice at the bottom of the screen that there are 10 colors to choose from and you can set the forum as fixed or "flex" depending on what you prefer. We'll be adding more and tweaking things as we go. Thanks again for your patience. :2thumbs:

Cheers,

-acca

[Byron]

Ahhh...you beat me to the Obamacare line!!! I just got here, so I have yet to look around...but thanks for the hard work and making me (and probably quite a few others) appreciate that you're back! It kinda sucked not having this place to hit on a regular basis.

[jman]

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Thanks for your patience as we were having some technical difficulties. We mistakenly hired some developers from the HeathCare.gov project.
Boy was that a mistake! :lol8:

You'll notice that we've changed some things. It was kinda like remodeling your kitchen. Once you start tearing into it, the project ends up being a much bigger endeavor then you expected.

The new skin is much more scalable for the future and we've needed to ditch our old skin for a while. I customized it from scratch and it was just not a long term solution. @Sombeech, my sever guy and a couple developer friends have helped when I could pry them away from work. Luckily I'm currently unemployed, which came in handy. :roll: I've been living on about 3 hours sleep a night this entire week. I'm starting to get sick from it all and my wife is barely talking to me. The worst is that I am exhausted, which makes it really hard when you have to concentrate and not screw stuff up.

Anyway, we hope you like the new design. You'll notice at the bottom of the screen that there are 10 colors to choose from and you can set the forum as fixed or "flex" depending on what you prefer. We'll be adding more and tweaking things as we go. Thanks again for your patience. :2thumbs:

Cheers,

-acca

oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!! way to go! I am a fan of the upgrade! Definitely modern. Very sweet!

Congrats to all those involved, a thank-less job indeed as it's all behind the scenes. But here is your moment to shine :cool2: And tell your wife thank you too.

[Sombeech]

Hey Friends! Just a couple of things you'll notice aren't there - BUT WILL BE SHORTLY

the "Like this post" button, user tagging (with the @ symbol), and some smaller little details. We do plan on bringing them back but want to take it slow and try one at a time, making sure if the site breaks, we know exactly what did it. :cool2:

Hopefully you'll find this style a little more crisp. less cluttered, and a little faster loading time.

And, not a huge deal but we're letting you get your crayons out and color the forum to your choice.

Down at the bottom of any page, you'll see the dropdown. The default is "Bogley Blue Flex". The Flex means it will adjust the width to your monitor, where there is another blue that will keep it locked at a specific width.

Go ahead and customize a bit, and we'll keep working behind the scenes. Thanks for your patience and we hope to keep improving everyday.

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[Sombeech]

And PLEASE ask questions in this thread, and point out oddities you've come across.

thanks.

Oh, and we'll get the Outdoor Gear feeds out of the latest posts lists in a bit.

[Scott Card]

Woah! What happened to UUtah? :lol8:

Thanks Scott for your hard work. Get some sleep. I like the blue... almost BYU blue. :2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Woah! What happened to UUtah? :lol8:

Thanks Scott for your hard work. Get some sleep. I like the blue... almost BYU blue. :2thumbs:
Hey now, lets not get carried away. :haha:

I've got mine set to crimson red! :utes:

[tanya]

Interesting. ;)

[Glenn]

Well, I'm finally glad it's back online, but a little head's up would be nice in the future. That way I can schedule my own overdue tasks to complete while you're hard at work revamping the site.

I'm sure I'm gonna like it as soon as I figure out what color to stick with.

Nice work.

[accadacca]

Interesting. ;)

I'm curious what color you will choose? :popcorn:

[accadacca]

Ahhh...you beat me to the Obamacare line!!!
I actually stole that from @Sombeech. We got a good laugh out of that one. :lol8:

[Absolute Gravity]

Great job guys! Way to freshen the place up.

[rockgremlin]

Thanks guys. I've gotten soooo much accomplished at work this week.


Don't forget to add in the quick-smilies :)

[hank moon]

Wow, who turned on the lights in here? Looks great you guys - how many Mt. Dews went down?

[Sombeech]

Thanks guys. I've gotten soooo much accomplished at work this week.


Don't forget to add in the quick-smilies :)

Not quite exactly how it was in the past, but you'll have teh Smiley button up top. And to get the complete list of 200+ smilies, hit Go Advanced while replying and hit More on the right.

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[accadacca]

A little history... :popcorn:
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Bogley 2004-2013

uutah.com 1.0
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/uutah_1.0.jpg

uutah.com 2.0
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/uutah_2.0.jpg

bogley.com 2.0 home
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/bogley_2.0_home.jpg

bogley.com 2.0 forum
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/bogley_2.0.jpg

bogley.com 3.0 home
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/bogley_3.0_home.jpg

bogley.com 3.0 forum
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/bogley_3.0.jpg

bogley.com 4.0 forum
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/bogley_4.0.jpg

Bogley 5.0 forum
http://bogley.com/forum/images/misc/bogley_history/1.png

http://bogley.com/forum/images/misc/bogley_history/2.png

http://bogley.com/forum/images/misc/bogley_history/3.png

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[rockgremlin]

I like the violet...it's almost pink....my favorite color...

[Bootboy]

I can't log in from tapatalk. There is only a "join" option, no login option. This is an issue because I pretty much exclusively use mobile for access.

[Sombeech]

I can't log in from tapatalk. There is only a "join" option, no login option. This is an issue because I pretty much exclusively use mobile for access.

Hmm not sure. Are you sure you aren't attempting to login to the Tapatalk network itself, which is separate from Bogley?

And just to make sure we can still upload from Tapatalk....



Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

[accadacca]

Wow, who turned on the lights in here? Looks great you guys - how many Mt. Dews went down?
I actually just finished a Mtn Dew slurpee! :crazy:

[Bootboy]

Either way, I can't get logged in from tapatalk

[Bootboy]

Ok I got it. I had to log out of my tapatalk ID in order to login into and add bogley to my personal forum list. Weird, but whatever. I'm in.

[Sombeech]

Ok I got it. I had to log out of my tapatalk ID in order to login into and add bogley to my personal forum list. Weird, but whatever. I'm in.

OK, cool. Thanks for posting the follow up. Maybe there are others with the same issue.

[Slot Machine]

Nice work Scott, Justin and crew!

Observations:

Photos posted on a white background are not as pleasing to the eye as photos posted on a black background.

Also, black text on a white page is harder on the eye than white text on a black page. Black text on a grey page, as before, is also easy on the eye.

Not saying Bogley should be blacked out... But I'm wondering, will there be a way to change the background or text colors?

Thanks for keeping the pirate ship afloat guys! :2thumbs:

[Byron]

I agree with Bob...I much prefer the darker background against the bolder, blacker letters. Is there a way to have a "classic grey" option? I know that if this is it, I'll get used to it...but if you look to the right where it says "Become a Bigshot", I like that look.

[accadacca]

Nice work Scott, Justin and crew!

Observations:

Photos posted on a white background are not as pleasing to the eye as photos posted on a black background.

Also, black text on a white page is harder on the eye than white text on a black page. Black text on a grey page, as before, is also easy on the eye.

Not saying Bogley should be blacked out... But I'm wondering, will there be a way to change the background or text colors?

Thanks for keeping the pirate ship afloat guys! :2thumbs:

Thanks for the feedback@Slot Machine. These are the stock themes, so we can certainly make adjustments. Perhaps we'll darken up the B&W theme or make a new one. This was a first crack at it. You'd be amazed at how many people didn't like the dark theme when we switched from white back in the day. Different strokes right. I'm a metallic/grey guy myself, but one of my fav colors is the light blue. If anyone is interested in helping modify a theme, send me a PM. It's not really hard and you don't need to be that technical, just takes some time and tinkering. We could have a more bogley-esqe option. :2thumbs:

[Taylor]

Thanks guys, and well done. I was getting tired of looking for something interesting over at CC. I agree with the comments about dark lettering on white background (harder on the eyes). I also miss the link back to the forum menu that was right after the quick reply dialogue box. Not a big fan of bright colors, I will try out the black and white theme for now. Thanks again for all your work.

[Sombeech]

I also miss the link back to the forum menu that was right after the quick reply dialogue box.Yes, these links at the bottom are known as lower "bread crumbs". these will definitely make their way back to the forum, rather than needing to scroll all the way up to the top to get back to the forum.

One quick tip while we wait for me to test that feature out here, is the "Quick Navigation" where you can jump to a different forum, or even hit the "Top" button to skip the scrolling part.

But I agree and we'll get those lower bread crumbs showing up here possibly this weekend.

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[Byron]

I was getting tired of looking for something interesting over at CC. Har har!!! Yeah...that place isn't really the den of activity now, is it?

[Sombeech]

Another thing we're eager to throw back up there are the quick links to show the latest Trip Reports for all forums, and each individual forum.

And while I'm talking about Trip Reports, adding the link below each user's avatar called "My Trip Reports". It made it nice if you were a fan of somebody's Trip Reports, you could click that link and view ALL of their stuff without performing a search.

This stuff will be coming back, and hopefully more of your ideas. This was just a pretty big software update and believe it or not, one little thing like that can cause the infamous "White Page" that we were all getting this week if it's not compatible.

Please keep your ideas coming, and especially what you liked about bogley up until last week, (and what you hated!) I'll make those the priority items to fix.

Thanks, and let's keep this thread rolling.

[Taylor]

My wife (Laura) is too chicken to register and post this herself: she would like Bogley to be unavailable after 10:00 pm.

[Slot Machine]

Thanks for the feedback@Slot Machine. These are the stock themes, so we can certainly make adjustments. Perhaps we'll darken up the B&W theme or make a new one. This was a first crack at it. You'd be amazed at how many people didn't like the dark theme when we switched from white back in the day. Different strokes right. I'm a metallic/grey guy myself, but one of my fav colors is the light blue. If anyone is interested in helping modify a theme, send me a PM. It's not really hard and you don't need to be that technical, just takes some time and tinkering. We could have a more bogley-esqe option. :2thumbs:

Yes, different strokes. Some people like Van Gogh. Some people like dogs playing poker. Just don't listen to the people that don't have an aesthetic eye or we will all go blind. :wink:

I did a little homework to better educate myself on the topic of eye strain. White on black (for simplicity white/black) is bad. Black/white is better. However the extreme contrast of black/white still creates eye strain.

This webpage offered some education on the topic: http://www.writer2001.com/colwebcontrast.htm

Black/beige or black/pale green produces little eye strain and is very appealing. The CC uses the black/beige combo and it looks nice (gotta give it to them, their web designer has a very keen aesthetic eye). Beige also produces less contrast when viewing photos.

However, 'mid tone grey' or '50% grey' is the best background for viewing photos. Not best in my opinion, but best scientifically. With a black background your iris is a little too open, with a white background your iris is a little too closed. These adjustments of your eye affect the perception of color in the displayed photos.

Anyway, I'd like to help create a better Bogley and would be happy to assist you in modifying some themes. I'm sure Tony would too, he has a great aesthetic eye.

I'll send you an email.

[Byron]

Hear hear! I'd slap a "Like" down on that one, Bob....if I could, that is.

[kiwi_outdoors]

I see that you have jumped on the "bandwagon" to dim text (sort of grey-ish). Its what happens when programmers try and become interior decorators (the interior decorators have not helped MS Office one bit). All this "interior decorating" looks pretty but is harder to read. On a non-commercial website I guess that is fine - but I do hate it when I see hard to read text on government web sites, user support web sites (HMOs etc) and even places trying to sell something (why make the process harder).

[accadacca]

Yes, different strokes. Some people like Van Gogh. Some people like dogs playing poker. Just don't listen to the people that don't have an aesthetic eye or we will all go blind. :wink:

I did a little homework to better educate myself on the topic of eye strain. White on black (for simplicity white/black) is bad. Black/white is better. However the extreme contrast of black/white still creates eye strain.

This webpage offered some education on the topic: http://www.writer2001.com/colwebcontrast.htm

Black/beige or black/pale green produces little eye strain and is very appealing. The CC uses the black/beige combo and it looks nice (gotta give it to them, their web designer has a very keen aesthetic eye). Beige also produces less contrast when viewing photos.

However, 'mid tone grey' or '50% grey' is the best background for viewing photos. Not best in my opinion, but best scientifically. With a black background your iris is a little too open, with a white background your iris is a little too closed. These adjustments of your eye affect the perception of color in the displayed photos.

Anyway, I'd like to help create a better Bogley and would be happy to assist you in modifying some themes. I'm sure Tony would too, he has a great aesthetic eye.

I'll send you an email.
Sounds great. I just sent you my phone number. Let's make a darker option, all for it.

You should send that link to the designers of Facebook. Lotta white on that website!

[kiwi_outdoors]

on the subject of eyes and text - text on computer screens, such as my modern Dell 24" HD display with IPS is still made up of pixels, it is not solid like printed text - so on-screen text is always less distinct (for any font that we like, with curves, not silly computer fonts) than printed text. Then, when you grey (gray) it out, it becomes even less distinct.

[accadacca]

I didn't design this skin, but I did do the last one. However, I did spend all week fixing the site though!

[JP]

Yea, while you're doing nothing, can you add some subtraction? This place needs more red. It makes it hard if I don't have a language changer. While you're adding languages, please add Ebonics because Hooked on Phonics worked for me :bandit:

Great job, looks good!

[Iceaxe]

I know some hate it.... but I'm a big fan of white letters on a dark background. It's easier on my old eyes to read. It's one of the nice things about tap-a-talk is you can select light or dark background.

I'm also a big fan of women's beach volleyball and some hate that.... different strokes I guess.

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[Sombeech]

I know some hate it.... but I'm a big fan of white letters on a dark background. It's easier on my old eyes to read. It's one of the nice things about tap-a-talk is you can select light or dark background.


We're working on a dark background with light lettering, possibly within the next 24 hours.

[Deathcricket]

Put me on the list for a darker background. Woot! The white seems to blind me a bit. Either I'm getting old or my monitor is getting too big. Hahaha. Although facebook has a white background and it doesn't seem to blind me. Weird. Perhaps the amount of open space on here vs facebook has ads every where. Anyways, just glad you guys are back online, missed ya!

[tanya]

I wanted pink, but it was too bright for my eyes, so I went with Teal. I like this all. Comparing the 2 now makes the old one look ..... well... old.

Good Job Scott, Beech and whoever else had a hand in this!

[Sombeech]

I also miss the link back to the forum menu that was right after the quick reply dialogue box. Not a big fan of bright colors, I will try out the black and white theme for now. Thanks again for all your work.

This is back now, just below the Quick Reply box at the bottom. Thanks for the feedback :cool2:

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[jman]

Just a observation,

Even though I was logged in under my tapatalk ID, I had to log-out and log-in to it, otherwise tapatalk wouldn't let me post pics from my mobile.


-Brett

[accadacca]

Just a observation,

Even though I was logged in under my tapatalk ID, I had to log-out and log-in to it, otherwise tapatalk wouldn't let me post pics from my mobile.


-Brett

I had that prob too. This was happening before our upgrade. I'm guessing its a tapatalk bug. I bet they are working on it. I thought about emailing them.

[Sombeech]

Howcome I can't add spaces to my posts? Whenever I press Enter the cursor doesn't reset to the next line, and whatever I type just ends up being one long run-on sentence.:ne_nau:

From another thread, but this issue has just been resolved. It was a problem with Internet Explorer 10 users.

I'm writing this in IE10 now

and the Enter function is working

No compatibility mode needed.

For those of you using the different colored bogley styles, could you please let us know if you're still having the problem?

Thanks

[jman]

I had that prob too. This was happening before our upgrade. I'm guessing its a tapatalk bug. I bet they are working on it. I thought about emailing them.

Yea I emailed Tapatalk before I replied here.




-Brett

[Sombeech]

Just a observation,

Even though I was logged in under my tapatalk ID, I had to log-out and log-in to it, otherwise tapatalk wouldn't let me post pics from my mobile.


-Brett

Yeah this was a Tapatalk update.

You'll notice when uploading a photo, if you choose image, it will be a Tapatalk hosted image. If you choose attachment it will be hosted here on Bogley.

If you want the Bogley hosted image to show "inline" with your post rather than down below in the attachment box, just tap on the attachment and it throws it inline where your cursor was.

These are all uploaded via the "attachment" and then tapping them to put them inline with my post

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[jman]

Another thought:

One of the forums I frequent uses Vbulletin as well, and I'm just tossing this idea out there to make Bogley more family-friendly (if needs be). There is a toggle which allows a user when they sign-up (or they can do it later) which adds a censorship filter. So basically, if the toggle is switched, then certain sub-forum categories as well as certain words are censored. Of course there will always be ways to bypass it, however.

Also, anyone who registers can input there birthday and based on their age (below 18 since nudity is allowed in the basement) it would keep it relatively clean for the younger folks.

[Iceaxe]

The what's new button lists the forum with new posts, The problem is if I enter the thread through the what's new button it takes me to the first post in the thread and not the last unread post in the thread, which kinda sucks on threads with 5 or 6 pages.

It might have always been this way but I have started using the what's new button since it is displayed so proudly. In tapatalk the what's new (unread posts) button takes you to the last unread post in the thread which is really sweet. If the what's new button worked like tapatalk that would be much better IMHO.

[accadacca]

The what's new button lists the forum with new posts, The problem is if I enter the thread through the what's new button it takes me to the first post in the thread and not the last unread post in the thread, which kinda sucks on threads with 5 or 6 pages.

It might have always been this way but I have started using the what's new button since it is displayed so proudly. In tapatalk the what's new (unread posts) button takes you to the last unread post in the thread which is really sweet. If the what's new button worked like tapatalk that would be much better IMHO.
Yeah I noticed that too. We updated the software, which changed the way this button acts. Some other people were complaining about it on other websites. There is a code fix to revert it to function like it used to. We'll have to put that on our list.

[Sombeech]

Another thought:

One of the forums I frequent uses Vbulletin as well, and I'm just tossing this idea out there to make Bogley more family-friendly (if needs be). There is a toggle which allows a user when they sign-up (or they can do it later) which adds a censorship filter. So basically, if the toggle is switched, then certain sub-forum categories as well as certain words are censored. Of course there will always be ways to bypass it, however.

Also, anyone who registers can input there birthday and based on their age (below 18 since nudity is allowed in the basement) it would keep it relatively clean for the younger folks.

Sure, we can set up a profanity filter for specific groups. The nudity thing in the Rubbish Bin, we'll just have to keep a better moderation on it. I can't go in there during work, I'm at school, could lose my job. But yeah, good ideas.


The what's new button lists the forum with new posts, The problem is if I enter the thread through the what's new button it takes me to the first post in the thread and not the last unread post in the thread, which kinda sucks on threads with 5 or 6 pages.

It might have always been this way but I have started using the what's new button since it is displayed so proudly. In tapatalk the what's new (unread posts) button takes you to the last unread post in the thread which is really sweet. If the what's new button worked like tapatalk that would be much better IMHO.

I see what you mean. If you hit the title of the thread it takes you to the first post, but if you hit "See More", that tends to take you to the last post, or your first unread post.

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BUT... this can be fixed. I'll see if I can do this today. Thanks

[Sombeech]

The Like button is back

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User tagging is back Deathcricket Slot Machine

[nelsonccc]

I like it guys. What a trip down memory lane to see all the old uUtah looks!

[Sombeech]

The Trip Reports finder is back

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[Slot Machine]

We're working on a dark background with light lettering, possibly within the next 24 hours.

How's that coming along? :popcorn:

[Iceaxe]

FWIW: The more I'm around this white background the more I hate it. I've noticed I now follow the forum mostly on my phone because the white is so annoying.

[Slot Machine]

FWIW: The more I'm around this white background the more I hate it. I've noticed I now follow the forum mostly on my phone because the white is so annoying.

X2

Know what I want for Christmas?

Grey background. :mrgreen:

[Felicia]

FWIW: The more I'm around this white background the more I hate it. I've noticed I now follow the forum mostly on my phone because the white is so annoying.

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Felicia

[Sombeech]

oops, we've gotta get back to this project. Thanks for the reminders.

[Iceaxe]

While you are at it... get rid of the shitty font. You guys have no clue how difficult it is for those of us wirh old eyes.

Not enough contrast and a font with poor spacing is not a winning combination.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[double moo]

While you are at it... get rid of the shitty font. You guys have no clue how difficult it is for those of us wirh old eyes.

Not enough contrast and a font with poor spacing is not a winning combination.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

Word...