Lake Mead property owners forced out until shutdown ends

[accadacca]

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, "Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen."

Joyce Spencer said she's alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

"I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in," Spencer said. "We're not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants."

The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.

Regardless, the Spencers said it's their property and they should be allowed in, shutdown or not.

Source: http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mead-Property-Owners-Forced-Out-Until-Gov-Shutdown-Ends-226557661.html?lc=Smart

[JP]

Gotta love the prez :crazy:

[Bwbrent]

prez my ass. its the tea party jack asses like Mike Lee:fitz::fitz::fitz:

[Iceaxe]

So the pot says to the kettle.....

69969

[cchoc]

Gotta love the prez :crazy:

You seem confused about who controls the funding for the park system.

[Iceaxe]

You seem confused about who controls the funding for the park system.

You seem to be confused on who shut the NPS down... they will get paid, this is now just a paid vacation for most federal workers which I find silly. YMMV....

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1377190_10201646630760494_31431610_n.jpg

[cchoc]

Congress shut the parks down by not passing a continuing resolution to fund the government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ask the rangers and other furloughed workers who have to make their house and car payments with no salary how they like their paid vacations.

[nelsonccc]

Congress shut the parks down by not passing a continuing resolution to fund the government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ask the rangers and other furloughed workers who have to make their house and car payments with no salary how they like their paid vacations.

Good for congress. If there isn't money then there isn't any money. We can't just keep raising our debt limit to pay for things we can't afford and since our president (and I use the term loosely) takes a dictator approach to politics, what other option do they have to stop his steamrolling of our constitution? The money should be held for ransom until the ACA is vetted and fully understood. National health care is a novel idea and one that could be implemented and would accomplish the goal however, the administration of this plan is a disaster. The Obamacare law is almost three thousand pages of law plus tens of thousands more of confusing, verbose governmentese regulations. It CANNOT be controlled once it goes into full effect and will bankrupt this country (even more so than it already is).

[cchoc]

We need to borrow money to pay off the interest on our Iraq war debt and the Bush tax cuts. Talk about the elephant in the room. And, of course, there are some elected officials who thing default is a good thing. :crazycobasa:

[nelsonccc]

What about the Obama wars? His war debt? The guy that ran on an anti-war platform then turned out to be just as much as a war monger as the rest of them. The 20,000+airstrikes in his first term? His war on Libya WITHOUT congressional approval? His presence in Iraq afer "ending" the war? His escalated war in Afghanistan? Sold weapons to Syria Terrorists and Saudi Arabia. Dropped bombs in 6 countries vs Bushes 4? He's is doing the exact same things Bush did but now not a peep from the libtards and yet you guys keep going back and talking about bush's actions 5 years ago. Meanwhile he is single handily going about the largest drone/spying program imaginable with millions of our record being kept for no reason whatsoever.

Oh and I almost forget, if you ever want a good read about Obamacare look up Fowler and her role/lobbying for Wellpoint (the nations largest insurance co lobbing group) and how that played out in her drafting of the bill and the revolving door between Wellpoint and the health insurance lobbyists for the bill. What a coup, force every citizen to buy your product. Genius. Guess who Obama chose to oversee implementation of the health bill......Fowler. Now she's at Johnson & Johnson (one of the largest and most aggressive supporters of the bill) as a senior executive. The ACA is about benefiting the big pharmaceutical companies and not at all about providing health care for the poor. It's the same thing you libtards are always accusing the republicans of doing, catering to big corporations, and yet here it is from the dems.

I don't consider myself a republican or a democrat, I think they're all the same. Either party will cater to corporations and corporatism is the true government regardless of election outcomes.

[Iceaxe]

We need to borrow money to pay off the interest on our Iraq war debt and the Bush tax cuts. Talk about the elephant in the room.

It's so cute when folks have no clue how our government (or any government) actually operates.

Our government's finances are not like yours or mine. The government really has no debt because they have the ability to print whatever money they actually require. Our government will never actually run out of money so long as greenbacks are the safest place in the world to store wealth.

:popcorn:

[cchoc]

It's so cute when folks have no clue how our government (or any government) actually operates.

Our government's finances are not like yours or mine. The government really has no debt because they have the ability to print whatever money they actually require. Our government will never actually run out of money so long as greenbacks are the safest place in the world to store wealth.

:popcorn:

Hilarious. You guys crack me up. :lol8:

[Iceaxe]

What about the Obama wars? His war debt? The guy that ran on an anti-war platform then turned out to be just as much as a war monger as the rest of them.

You left out the part about Obama arming the Mexican drug cartels with automatic weapons.

:popcorn:

[JP]

prez my ass. its the tea party jack asses like Mike Lee:fitz::fitz::fitz:
The Tea Party has absolutely nothing to do with what is shut down and what remains open. Your genius pick for President has that ultimate say.

[Scott P]

^^^^^^

You guys should all run for congress. You sound just like congressmen already.

[JP]

You seem confused about who controls the funding for the park system.

You seem confused on who has the final decisions on what stays funded and what doesn't. Gee, why did the Amber Alert system go back online? Because even your Messiah realized what a mistake he made.

[cchoc]

You seem confused on who has the final decisions on what stays funded and what doesn't. Gee, why did the Amber Alert system go back online? Because even your Messiah realized what a mistake he made.

The amber alert system was never shut down, only the government website. You don't just seem confused, apparently. :lol8:

"The Amber Alert system is fully functional during the government shutdown, a Justice Department offical told BuzzFeed Monday, despite the shuttering of Justice website AmberAlert.gov.Questions about the service were raised over the weekend after reporters noticed the Justice Department site was down. The site is used to describe the federal funding for the Amber Alert program, according to the Justice Department, and its shuttering does not mean the federal participation in the program itself has been affected by the partial closure of the federal government.
“Amber alerts are uninterrupted. They get issued by states and counties, which do notifications to media, on Twitter, highway signs, etc,” the Justice Department officials said. “The .gov site is informational, not the law enforcement tool.”"

[cchoc]

The Tea Party has absolutely nothing to do with what is shut down and what remains open. Your genius pick for President has that ultimate say.

http://www.gao.gov/legal/lawresources/antideficiencybackground.html

I should have been more clear, it's the tea party members who have gotten themselves elected who have a big say in the funding appropriations. Then each agency decides what is and isn't essential. But, since Rush isn't explaining it to you I doubt this will have any effect. :haha:

[JP]

who have a big say in the funding appropriations.
Then each agency decides what is and isn't essential. But, since Rush isn't explaining it to you I doubt this will have any effect. :haha:
The House is responsible for monies. The head of each agency and the president. The president has the final say in where the money flows. I don't listen to Rush, nice try 69985

And I know you love the :bert: but just because the DOJ said it's up and running, after the fact, doesn't mean it wasn't shut down. Keep :bert: the Kool-Aid.

[cchoc]

The pres can override department heads on what is deemed essential, but he shouldn't have to. And believe what you like about the amber alert system.

Your insults, though, are pretty weak. ;)


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[JP]

but he shouldn't have to. And believe what you like about the amber alert system.

Your insults, though, are pretty weak. ;)


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Obviously you don't give the prez enough credit, he has his hands in everything.
The second to the last thing to believe is whatever comes out of the DOJ.
We'll see :haha:

[Sombeech]

Congress shut the parks down by not passing a continuing resolution to fund the government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ask the rangers and other furloughed workers who have to make their house and car payments with no salary how they like their paid vacations.
Indeed, it has been a paid vacation. All Federal Gov't employees will be getting paid for their furloughed time off.

[cchoc]

You don't seem to understand how paid vacations work. You get paid on the same schedule on vacation as when you are working, so you can pay your bills on time. There is no set date as to when the back pay will be paid. Not the same as a paid vacation at all.

[Sombeech]

You don't seem to understand how paid vacations work.
Indeed, I do.

[cchoc]

OK Ms Palin. But I expect the people on furlough understand things differently (and correctly). :lol8:

[Sombeech]

Ah, a typical expected response, resulting in either name calling or belittling, I'm surprised there was no Fox News or Rush reference.

The truth is, they will be made whole and this shut down will have proved nothing.

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[cchoc]

No name calling or belittling on my part, just think your response is funny. There is no timetable for the back pay so what do they tell their creditors in the meantime? This doesn't happen on a paid vacation which you insist they are on. And I didn't think I needed to reference Rush or Fox, but stubbornly ignoring reality is a hallmark of theirs. :haha: Seriously, it's great that they have been promised back pay, but they are still under hardships that are not part of paid vacations. Facts are true whether or not you want to believe them.

[Sombeech]

I hear ya, it's a bitch that they aren't getting paid, they actually had nothing to do with our government's screw up but they are paying the price.

It is nice that they'll be compensated in the end, I'm pretty sure they won't be getting any interest on those missed wages, but that really would help. I know a lot of Federal employees that are off work right now, and you're right, when they miss the payments or delay them, it might go on their record.

[cchoc]

I'm hoping their creditors will give them a break, but I'm more hopeful that things will get started back up and neither they or the US will get their credit rating dinged.