The Death Thread

[Slot Machine]

This compilation of fatal and potentially fatal canyoneering accidents has been moved to my blog. (https://www.smilingcricket.com/2019/04/the-death-thread.html)

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[Absolute Gravity]

July 15, 1993. Two scout leaders die descending Kolob in high flow.
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/kolob1.htm

[Absolute Gravity]

Oh, the Choprock drownings too.

April 19, 2005
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?19574-Deaths-in-Choprock-Canyon

[Scott P]

A person died in a flashflood in Quandary Canyon. I think May 1998. As far as I know it never made the news or was publicised.

Also:

September 17 1965: 5 deaths in the Zion Narrows due to flash flood

September 5 1998: 1 death of a 10 year old girl Ice Cream Canyon due to flash flood

May 13 2001: 1 death of 10 year old boy swept off the trail in a flash flood. Canyon Overlook of Pine Creek in Zion. Don't know if you want to list it under the canyoneering deaths.

See also here for more incidences:

http://climb-utah.com/Zion/flash_zion.htm

[Slot Machine]

A person died in a flashflood in Quandary Canyon. I think May 1998. As far as I know it never made the news or was publicised.

Also:

September 17 1965: 5 deaths in the Zion Narrows due to flash flood

September 5 1998: 1 death of a 10 year old girl Ice Cream Canyon due to flash flood

May 13 2001: 1 death of 10 year old boy swept off the trail in a flash flood. Canyon Overlook of Pine Creek in Zion. Don't know if you want to list it under the canyoneering deaths.

See also here for more incidences:

http://climb-utah.com/Zion/flash_zion.htm

Thanks Scott!

I'd like limit the list to technical canyoneering adventures. Slips and falls, arch swing stunts and non-tech flash floods aren't that educational.

Stories and names are a must. They make the events more 'real'. I'd be very interested in an article (or personal account), date and name for the Quandary accident.

[jman]

Good idea Bob for a thread. Perhaps Tom and Shane will do the same thing on their sites. At the very least, having an exhaustive list - will show beginners and remind veterans that you can't assume all is well in Zion land. The point should be to instill *SAFETY* and change the attitude of *just because you can hike, means you can be a canyoneer and get out of any obstacle unprepared*

[Iceaxe]

August 12, 1997 - Flash flood in Antelope Canyon. 11 die, one survives.
Here is a more complete write up with video
http://climb-utah.com/Powell/flash_antelope.htm


April 26th, 2003 - Aron Ralston
Aaron told me this is the most accurate write up he read before his book came out
http://climb-utah.com/Roost/bluejohn2.htm
The book
http://www.amazon.com/127-Hours-Between-Rock-Place/dp/B004X8W58U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379459098&sr=8-2&keywords=ralston


Two death's in the Lower Black Box
July 11, 1999 and August 28, 1999
Both are detailed here: http://climb-utah.com/SRS/lbb.htm


There is a nice list (but incomplete) of Utah flash flood death's dating back to 1863
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/projects/disasters/flood_stats/flood_deaths.php


:popcorn:


Maybe we should just reserve a spot for the meet-up groups on this list now.

:roflol:

[jman]

You have the Mildred Falls fatality in California in 2011 - Matthew Pack, 250+ water rappel - died of mechanical asphyxiation.

I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.

And you have another Subway death a few decades back (I can't remember time stamp exactly?) where a guy was rappelling at some location and the anchor blew out and fell like 50 or 60 feet. Something like that. Scott P was the one who told me about that one.

[Byron]

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zguCFjHyVeM

[Scott P]

You have the Mildred Falls fatality in California in 2011 - Matthew Pack, 250+ water rappel - died of mechanical asphyxiation.

I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.

Actually, I haven't been, but I thought Mildred Falls was a canyoneering route?:ne_nau: Doesn't the route follow a canyon? If so, a route that follows a canyon = canyoneering.


And you have another Subway death a few decades back (I can't remember time stamp exactly?) where a guy was rappelling at some location and the anchor blew out and fell like 50 or 60 feet.

Official reports say 30 feet. October 10 1992; David Bryant. A small tree he was rapping off pulled out of the ground.


Stories and names are a must. They make the events more 'real'. I'd be very interested in an article (or personal account), date and name for the Quandary accident.

As far as I know, there never has been an article of any kind on the incident. I don't recall the name of the victim (whom I never met), only the survivor. The survivor was Leslie Clayton whom went on a trip to South America with us.

I believe the death occurred Memorial Day weekend, 1998, but I don't know which day of the weekend.

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Anyway, Tom's book on Zion also mentions several accidents in Zion.

[Bootboy]

[QUOTE=jman;543620]

I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.

/QUOTE]

Sensitive much?

Thanks for the shout out anyway...

[Slot Machine]

The point should be to instill *SAFETY* and change the attitude of *just because you can hike, means you can be a canyoneer and get out of any obstacle unprepared*

That is not the point of this thread. I'm building it as a resourse page for those that would like to learn from the mistakes/misfortune of others. People can take from it what they would like. Preachin' ain't welcome in this library. :mrgreen:

Thanks for the links and references, Ice, Scott and Jman. :gents: For any more contributions PLEASE add a link.

"Somthin' happened to someone in Whatchacallit Canyon about 1993ish" is not a good example to learn from, even though it was a canyoneering accident.
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A shout out to Bo_Beck - because of your vast SAR background, you probably know more about the history of Zion accidents than anyone. Is there a accident report archive online that you are aware of?

Thanks in advance.

Bob

[MrAdam]

Im too lazy too look up a link to it, but there was the accident in Insomnia, 2 years ago I think, where the guy lost control on the 320' rap and fell. Not fatal, but it shold have been!

[Slot Machine]

Mr Lazy Adam, :haha:

THAT is good one to learn from, I'll dig it up. Thanks!

[accadacca]

Interesting @Slot Machine (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=20293) . You and I must be on the same wavelength. I thought about trying to compile an accident timeline from just 2013. There seems to be quite a few from this year alone. At lease a dozen posted on bogley alone. That thread would be interesting as well if someone wants to take a crack at it. "2013 Accidents" or something...

[Slot Machine]

Acca,

Hmmm... yeah, this year has been inspiring. I'm just trying to compile accident reports that people can learn from.

There isn't much to be learned from someone slipping and falling off a cliff, but, stay on the cliff.

A broken ankle thread would teach zero lessons. See what I'm saying?

[accadacca]

I gotcha. You are going for a higher level of fubars. Maybe a "2013 Rescues" thread would be more appropriate? I believe those can educate too.

[Slot Machine]

Respectfully, I disagree.

A broken ankle in The Subway that requires rescue teaches nothing. That could happen to anyone. However, my brother-in-law getting out of Sandthrax after falling from the crux teaches many lessons.

That fall would have crippled or killed a fair percentage of people. I should include that...

[accadacca]

I just figured it would be interesting to see a timeline of the rescues this year, regardless if it teaches or not. There seems to be more than previous years. I could be wrong about that. Anyway, carry on!

[Sandstone Addiction]

Here is the Bogley thread for the Insomnia rescue if you would like to add it to the link to the article:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?58606-SAR-Oak-Creek-Canyon-AZ

[Kuya]

I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.


:roflol:

[PG Rob]

Not sure of the details, but Tom (ratagonia) references a death from rock fall at rappel 6 in Lodge canyon.

http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/zion/technical/lodge-canyon/

Look at the last paragraph under "The Business"
"Loose rock falling on the last rappel station has been responsible for one fatality. Wear a helmet, clip into the belay, and pay attention to what you are doing."

[TKPH]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?62724

Boss Hog handline/spotting difficulties.

[Slot Machine]

Thanks Rob, I'll include that one.

TKPH, enven though the Boss Hog accident required rescue, and it IS an informative report, from what I can gather the risk of dying was minimal. It's in the 'broken ankle category', it just happens that the broken bones were 4 vetebral processes.

[jman]

Not sure of the details, but Tom (@ratagonia (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=32) ) references a death from rock fall at rappel 6 in Lodge canyon.

http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/zion/technical/lodge-canyon/

Look at the last paragraph under "The Business"
"Loose rock falling on the last rappel station has been responsible for one fatality. Wear a helmet, clip into the belay, and pay attention to what you are doing."

Is that the Sasha Simpson accident back in 1999, perhaps? Or is this another accident?

[ratagonia]

Is that the Sasha Simpson accident back in 1999, perhaps? Or is this another accident?

Jan 21, 1999, to be specific. I sent the full text from the Zbook to Bob a few moments ago.

Tom

[Jolly Green]

Not sure if this fits the bill but I'll throw it on the chopping block. In June 2006, Nolan Porter, Nathan Cresswell, and Ray Miller plan on doing Behunin but drop into Heaps instead due to GPS error and lack of a map. After talking to Ray about this, the 2 that went through all of Heaps in early June without wetsuits flirted with moderate-severe hypothermia constantly in the terminal narrows before SAR located them.
http://home.nps.gov/applications/digest/printheadline.cfm?type=ParkNewsEvents&id=23632

[Jolly Green]

Sorry, here's a better explanation. Although Ray told me there are some inaccuracies added by the author to make this a better story.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201003/slickrock.aspx

[ratagonia]

There was that one in Shenanigans - father tried to climb up a cliffband in the dark (on the hike out), fell, broke his pelvis (life-threatening)... eventually evacuated. Uh, 2005???

Tom

[Slot Machine]

Thanks Tom for sharing that portion of your book! It is excellent. :2thumbs:

Below is an excerpt from the book; the intro to the accident report section:


Zion National Park has one of the best technical rescue teams in the National Park System. Still - backcountry visitors should be prepared to take care of themselves. The existence of an excellent rescue team is no excuse for reckless behavior. Rescue is always several hours to several days away, and does little for people who are already dead.

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[Slot Machine]

There was that one in Shenanigans - father tried to climb up a cliffband in the dark (on the hike out), fell, broke his pelvis (life-threatening)... eventually evacuated. Uh, 2005???

Tom

Hmmm, it sounds like a great tale to learn from... a more complete story would be helpful.

[accadacca]

This one won't make the list, but it's a good read and a touch before you joined Slot Machine

Several got their panties in a bunch over this predicament... :haha:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?59067-Overdue-Bogleyites-in-Kolob

[Slot Machine]

Sorry, here's a better explanation. Although Ray told me there are some inaccuracies added by the author to make this a better story.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201003/slickrock.aspx

Wow, that sounds like a horrible ordeal, and yes, a nearly fatal error. I'll add it to the list. Thank you for sharing JG!

[ratagonia]

Sorry, here's a better explanation. Although Ray told me there are some inaccuracies added by the author to make this a better story.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201003/slickrock.aspx

A more thorough, non-dramatized for TV version can be found here:

http://canyoncollective.com/threads/heaps-not-behunin.18756/

(recently transferred from the dinosaurus Yahoogroupsis)

Tom

[Jolly Green]

A more thorough, non-dramatized for TV version can be found here:

http://canyoncollective.com/threads/heaps-not-behunin.18756/

(recently transferred from the dinosaurus Yahoogroupsis)

Tom

Much better version. Gracias.

[accadacca]

Up for debate from 2007. Seems like it should be...

North-Wash-Canyoneering-Rescue
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25566

[PG Rob]

30-40 foot ground fall in Sandthrax could have easily ended in death.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68866-Accident-Report-Sandthrax

[ratagonia]

David Fleisher and Kim Ellis were not on a Scout trip. It was, however, an official LDS Youth Group trip.

I know they are spoken of as 'Boy Scouts' and they thought of themselves as Boy Scouts, but the BSA exercised very little control in those days and the authorization for their trip was signed off by their LDS Bishop.

Tom

[Scott P]

There was that one in Shenanigans - father tried to climb up a cliffband in the dark (on the hike out), fell, broke his pelvis (life-threatening)... eventually evacuated. Uh, 2005???

I remember someone fell from up high in Middle Lep under similar circumstances. There was a big discussion on the canyons group.

Not sure if it was life threatening, but Steve Susswien (spelling?) also go stuck in Chambers.

[ratagonia]

Not sure if it was life threatening, but Steve Susswien (spelling?) also fell in Chambers.

Steve didn't fall. He went into a narrow place voluntarily and then could not get out, easily.

Tom

[Scott P]

Steve didn't fall. He went into a narrow place voluntarily and then could not get out, easily.

Thanks. I edited it.

Here is the report on Leprechaun I was referring to.

http://climb-utah.com/Powell/leprechaun2.htm (http://climb-utah.com/Powell/leprechaun2.htm)

[Bootboy]

Does anyone else think this thread could do with a slightly less macabre title?

How about "canyoneering accidents and fatalities"

I dunno

[Iceaxe]

Yeah... I thought the title sucked. I like the suggested title.

I akso think it would be nice to include ALL canyon accidents. Even the one's Bob has deemed unworthy. If you are going to create an accident database you might as well do it right and get them all so the database is complete.

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Iceaxe]

The fall in Middle Leprechaun is detailed on Climb-Utah and should be included.

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[nelsonccc]

This one won't make the list, but it's a good read and a touch before you joined @Slot Machine (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=20293)

Several got their panties in a bunch over this predicament... :haha:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?59067-Overdue-Bogleyites-in-Kolob

You had to go there! Just re-read the whole thread. Very entertaining. Arm chair QB's and 'experts', funny stuff. I even got a kick out of my posts and I saw that even Dan posted in there!

[DiscGo]

Very interesting thread. Thanks for putting it together.

[Bootboy]

Bwahahah! Love the new title!

[Slot Machine]

Yeah... I thought the title sucked. I like the suggested title.

I akso think it would be nice to include ALL canyon accidents. Even the one's Bob has deemed unworthy. If you are going to create an accident database you might as well do it right and get them all so the database is complete.

The title sucks? Meh. :roll:
I bet you guys remember it. 10,000 hits from now, I bet it is easy to Google too. :cool2: I'll nice it down for now, just to mock you. :bootyshake: :lol8: (friendly mocking, of course)

Watered down beer and watered down references suck. I'm NOT diluting this puppy down with a bunch of 'broken ankle in The Narrows' stories that bore people into changing the channel back to YouPorn. :naughty:

Studying automobile deaths is macabre too- but it is still important information to sift through and study. Much can be learned from the worst of the worst; which is the gist of this thread.

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Thanks everyone for your contributions! :gents:

FWIW, I'm still sifting through stories. If yours hasn't been added there is a chance it hasn't been read yet.

[Slot Machine]

This one won't make the list, but it's a good read and a touch before you joined @Slot Machine (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=20293)

Cripes Acca! :facepalm1: You can do better than that! Overdue hiker thread?? Gimme my 10 minutes back!

[Slot Machine]

Dear Reader: This thread is about death, and the possibility of death. Please do not read this thread if you are not comfortable with the word 'death' or the concept thereof. If you would like to start a thread that discusses sprained ankles, helicopter rides, albinos, or hemophiliacs... feel free. There is room for everyone on the Bogley playground. If you don't like how this thread is organized then you, Dear Reader, are under no obligation to read it or contribute to it.

On with business. :mrgreen:

[Bootboy]

Looks like the title took another dump...

[Bootboy]

Edit: deleted for douchey content

[Slot Machine]

Looks like the title took another dump...

Apparently, I'm not allowed to use "The Albino Hemophiliacs that Stubbed Their Toe Thread" as the titile, since it was changed to some unmemorable, unsearchable, useless title yesterday (by somebody with GREAT powers). So, I just changed it back to the original.

I would like people to be able to quickly find this thread in the future, thus the memorable and succinct name.

I'm not ignoring your opinion, I DO hear you loud and clear Bootboy:

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[ratagonia]

So is this the right thread for this picture?

Stop being a douche, please.

This is a thread about death and near-death in canyoneering. Something that is perhaps of use to the community. Don't spoil it by being douchey...

Tom

[Bo_Beck]

Dave Nally is about finished and ready to print "Death in Zion", a book very well researched about deaths and unique accidents within Zion dating back to known history. Hopefully the book might be helpful?

[Bo_Beck]

A shout out to @Bo_Beck (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=173) - because of your vast SAR background, you probably know more about the history of Zion accidents than anyone. Is there a accident report archive online that you are aware of?
Thanks in advance.
Bob

Bob,
A friend of mine, Dave Nally has been working very hard on completing his book "Death in Zion". It will also include various rescues within. The book Dave decided to write is stimulated by another book "Over The Edge, Death In Grand Canyon". I know that Dave has put a LOT of time and effort into the research and writing of this book, and I'm sure It'll give some answers for accidents that have happened in Zion. I personally am not at liberty to discuss deaths, accidents and rescues, but Zion Park has been very gracious and forthcoming with information details for Dave.
Cheers!
Bo

[jman]

Bob,
A friend of mine, Dave Nally has been working very hard on completing his book "Death in Zion". It will also include various rescues within. The book Dave decided to write is stimulated by another book "Over The Edge, Death In Grand Canyon". I know that Dave has put a LOT of time and effort into the research and writing of this book, and I'm sure It'll give some answers for accidents that have happened in Zion. I personally am not at liberty to discuss deaths, accidents and rescues, but Zion Park has been very gracious and forthcoming with information details for Dave.
Cheers!
Bo

Sounds fascinating. Bo, do you know when Dave plans to release it? I did a quick Google search and couldn't pull up anything.


-Brett

[Bo_Beck]

Sounds fascinating. Bo, do you know when Dave plans to release it? I did a quick Google search and couldn't pull up anything.


-Brett
I think within a month or two? I've been helping him write the introduction and I think that once he gets that done he'll go to the printer.

[Slot Machine]

Bob,
A friend of mine, Dave Nally has been working very hard on completing his book "Death in Zion". It will also include various rescues within. The book Dave decided to write is stimulated by another book "Over The Edge, Death In Grand Canyon". I know that Dave has put a LOT of time and effort into the research and writing of this book, and I'm sure It'll give some answers for accidents that have happened in Zion. I personally am not at liberty to discuss deaths, accidents and rescues, but Zion Park has been very gracious and forthcoming with information details for Dave.
Cheers!
Bo

Fascinating. I just ordered Over The Edge, Death in Grand Canyon (http://www.amazon.com/Over-Edge-Death-Grand-Canyon/dp/097009731X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379949333&sr=8-1&keywords=over+the+edge+death+in+grand+canyon), and I'll pick up a copy of Death in Zion when it is published. Thanks for the info.

Curious, why are you not at liberty to discuss accidents and rescues? HIPAA? Potential lawsuits?

Bob

[Bo_Beck]

Fascinating. I just ordered Over The Edge, Death in Grand Canyon (http://www.amazon.com/Over-Edge-Death-Grand-Canyon/dp/097009731X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379949333&sr=8-1&keywords=over+the+edge+death+in+grand+canyon), and I'll pick up a copy of Death in Zion when it is published. Thanks for the info.

Curious, why are you not at liberty to discuss accidents and rescues? HIPAA? Potential lawsuits?

Bob

ZNP has an Information Liason, Aly, who releases the information the park wishes to dispel. She knows what info. is appropriate, and I don't.

[Iceaxe]

"Over The Edge, Death In Grand Canyon".

I read that book when it was first released. It's not a bad book, but it wasn't as enticing as I had hoped.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Iceaxe]

Curious, why are you not at liberty to discuss accidents and rescues? HIPAA? Potential lawsuits?

Government agencies are finicky about releasing only the information they want and with the spin they desire.



Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Scott P]

"Over The Edge, Death In Grand Canyon".



I read that book when it was first released. It's not a bad book, but it wasn't as enticing as I had hoped.

Yes, it is a good book. It is meant to be more of a history book or documentary than it is a thriller.

[Iceaxe]

So I haven't followed this thread completely or read every post.... but if this is back to the DEATH Thread where do we put the accidents where someone should have died and has no right to still be walking the face of the earth?

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?35747

:popcorn:

[Slot Machine]

A very good story and video to learn from. I'll add it to the first post in a bit, thanks. :2thumbs:

_____


Where is the video of that fella that fell down a 90 foot waterfall? Nearly a freefall, he could have died too.

[ratagonia]

So I haven't followed this thread completely or read every post.... but if this is back to the DEATH Thread where do we put the accidents where someone should have died and has no right to still be walking the face of the earth?

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?35747

:popcorn:

Friend Shane -

I grant you permission to start the CHEATING DEATH thread at any time. :cool2:

Tom

[SRG]

Where is the video of that fella that fell down a 90 foot waterfall? Nearly a freefall, he could have died too.

Are you talkin about the video that was on here a while ago where the guy put out his brake hand to stop a slip and lost control of the rappel? That was scary, you could see his helmet smack the rock hard on his way down. I'd like to see that video again also.

EDIT: Here it is... http://youtu.be/3T4FT2SHFLo

[Iceaxe]

Wow... I've never seen that before. :eek2:

Don't let go with your brake hand....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T4FT2SHFLo

[Slot Machine]

Are you talkin about the video that was on here a while ago where the guy put out his brake hand to stop a slip and lost control of the rappel? That was scary, you could see his helmet smack the rock hard on his way down. I'd like to see that video again also.

EDIT: Here it is... http://youtu.be/3T4FT2SHFLo

Yes! That is the one. Thanks Sam.

There is a Bogley thread that discusses this video. A really good one. I can't find it...

[Sandstone Addiction]

Yes! That is the one. Thanks Sam.

There is a Bogley thread that discusses this video. A really good one. I can't find it...

Is this the one you're looking for?

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?62220-Rap-accident-in-Rubio-Canyon-60-fall

[Slot Machine]

Is this the one you're looking for?

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?62220-Rap-accident-in-Rubio-Canyon-60-fall

Yessir! That's the one. :2thumbs:

Thanks Dave!

[Slot Machine]

I read Dave Nally's new book this week, Flash Floods & Falls: Deaths and Rescues in Zion National Park, and found it to be very educational and quite entertaining. The book contains a great mixture of accident reports, personal experiences and historical tidbits that will be sure to keep your attention (assuming you are a fan of Zion National Park). Bo Beck's contributions are also astonishing -my description of his prowess as an outdoorsman will be nothing but lacking, so I won't even attempt...

So, check out Dave's book, it's a very good read.

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[Slot Machine]

Imagine the most exciting 100 trip reports you have ever read... the book I just finished is better than that.

Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon is a brilliant collection of tragic tales. It is pure quality from cover-to-cover; filled with true stories of murder, suicidal boat rides, plane crashes and even high speed car chases. The book starts out strong and gains momentum (unbelievably) for 367 pages. The final few tales will leave your jaw on the floor.

Not only will this book make your heart race and your palms sweat, it also offers plenty of practical advice on how to avoid catastrophe in the rugged environment of Grand Canyon. I strongly suggest checking it out.

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[Iceaxe]

Imagine the most exciting 100 trip reports you have ever read... the book I just finished is better than that.

I read the book when it first came out.... it's alright... but I'd rank some of the TR's on Bogley above it. Like the recent Chambers rescue was of more interest to me.

[Byron]

Imagine the most exciting 100 trip reports you have ever read... the book I just finished is better than that.
Bob...read "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing.

[townsend]

As long as we are on the subject of books about "death in national parks",:roll: another would be Laurence Parent, Death in Big Bend. I haven't read it . . . yet, but it seems to have garnered mostly positive reviews on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0974504874/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=31144830770&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13003310111967830290&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_2klhxo2ww4_e

The cover---with the skull--is nice and morbid . . .

[Iceaxe]

Bob...read "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing.

By far the best survival story I have ever read. Perhaps the best book I have ever read. Shackleton was a stud. :2thumbs:

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[jman]

By far the best survival story I have ever read. Perhaps the best book I have ever read. Shackleton was a stud. :2thumbs:

72426

That entire story is insane! Now THAT is a survival story. Great book indeed

[flatiron]

Bob...read "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing.

The book is great- the original documentary is great - and PBS just did a 3 part documentary of 5 guys trying to recreate Shack's voyage and hike across S Georgia. Also very good.
WTVP - Headlines - Chasing Shackleton on WTVP (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=shackleton%20recreation%20pbs&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwtvp.org%2Fheadlines%2F14.01.01.c hasing_shackleton.asp&ei=g78vU46mGNLvqgG12oDACQ&usg=AFQjCNEn2IL9hCNSubVFb3ExsX5rWmzcoQ&sig2=4709BgdVcX9oFlRNocc5aw)

[Slot Machine]

Bob...read "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing.

I've read South, a first-hand account of the expedition, written by Shackelton himself. He was a great adventurer and a brilliant storyteller. South is amongst the best books I've ever read.

If Endurance adds to the tale, I'll have to check it out.


As long as we are on the subject of books about "death in national parks",http://www.bogley.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif another would be Laurence Parent, Death in Big Bend. I haven't read it . . . yet, but it seems to have garnered mostly positive reviews on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0974504874/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=31144830770&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13003310111967830290&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_2klhxo2ww4_e

Why the eye roll? There is much to be learned from the misfortunes of others.

Big Bend looks like a good book, I'll give it a read too.

[Iceaxe]

I have read 'South', but Endurance is a much better book.

FWIW: If you like these death in the National Park type books there is also one on Yellowstone titled "Death in Yellowstone: Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park" by Lee H. Whittlesey.

[accadacca]

Two more BASE JUMPERS are dead in Moab and Zion: http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?71680-Two-more-Base-Jumpers-DEAD-in-Zion-amp-Moab

[Slot Machine]

It seems like a good time to bump this thread.

Be smart out there. And safe too. :nod:

[nelsonccc]

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[ratagonia]

Bump.

Any interest in updating this with the Keyhole 7, and the recent death in So Cal?

Tom