5 reasons Macs are better than PCs

[accadacca]

[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Arial][I]Editor's note: This is the first in a two-part series looking at the good and bad about Macs and PCs. Look for part two

[DOSS]

:roflol:

[kiwi_outdoors]

you could also post a thread about why Esperanto should be the world's comon language

pointelss, really, to dig up such an old topic

tall ya what's intersting, though - my company (a quasi-governmental bureacracy) is replacing Blackberry with iPhone!

[DiscGo]

:roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

Man. Thanks for the laugh. This "article" was among the funniest threads I have seen in a while :lol8:

[phatch]

It's funny, every one of his reasons is a reason i don't use Apple products. These are personal reasons, not absolutes.

1. Easy to use means a crippled interface that slows down experts and power users.
2. They don't work for me. When I've used Macs for work, I crash them routinely. They don't work the way I do.
3/4 iPhone and itunes are terrible for me.
5. Image is not a consideration, what I do with it is.

[DiscGo]

1. Macs are easier to use

2. They just work

5. Image



[*=left]Great battery life
[*=left]Pages is better than Word (or Keynote is better than PowerPoint)
[*=left]It keeps people from wasting time playing games (not many games are available on Macs)
[*=left]They have great support (online at support.apple.com (http://www.apple.com/support/) or in an Apple Store)Mac or PC?
[*=left]They have high-quality parts
[*=left]Doesn't come with "bloatware," or preinstalled stuff you'll never use
[*=left]Built-in backup software that's easy to use



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[Sombeech]

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/LoL3.jpeg

[Deathcricket]

5 reason why Mopeds are superior to cars!

1. They get way better gas mileage, maaaan!
2. They are way lighter than cars.
3. They are cheaper
4. They are like fat chicks. Fun to ride until your friends see you on one.
5. They don't go so fast so you are less likely to wrap yours around a tree going 80mph.

[accadacca]

I knew this would stir the pot... :amazon:

:bootyshake:

[rockgremlin]

Macs are for funboys and ladyboys who live in the imaginary land of make-believe (the I-tunes store).

I've been working in industry for going on 9 years now, and I've never seen a Mac that's capable to run the software that I use. Even if they could, there's the enormous issue of compatibility between PC and Mac, from office to office.

Macs are great for pictures with friends, photos, photoshop lite, and angry birds, but not much else.

[Deathcricket]

I do have some good news though. Macs are pretty notorious for having the worst gaming selection on the planet. But there was an announcement that LOL is now Mac compatible. That's pretty awesome! The sad news though is that Mac gamers really really suck, so pretty much any game you join right now has one or 2 Mac players who you pray aren't on your team. :lol8:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPuz48CFnw

This is IMO one of the best Free video games that exist. Hands down.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzMnCv_lPxI

[DOSS]

angry birds

I like angry birds.. maybe I should get a mac...

[DiscGo]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57572669-37/apple-and-google-take-divergent-paths-on-wall-street/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

[Iceaxe]

I don't use a Mac, I pee standing up.

Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[Deathcricket]

http://wanderingstan.com/2009-12-11/65-reasons-mac-sucks

65!!!! But it's just too long to quoteth

[QUOTE]65 Reasons Mac Sucks In August 2008 my old laptop bit the dust. Everyone was raving about Macs and I saw some good developers using them. This, and the fact I was such an Apple fanboy in my youth (http://wanderingstan.com/2008-04-10/i_was_apple_fanboy), convinced me that it was time for this prodigal Mac son to come home. I bought an almost-new MacBook off Craigslist–which later turned out to be stolen. But that’s another story. (But interesting to note that New York police aren’t interested if you call tell them you think you have a stolen laptop.) I was immediately disappointed. And as I now knew it was hot, I couldn’t in good conscience resell it.
So for the past year I’ve kept a list where I express my frustration every time it slows me down. At the behest of many, I now present that list. (Please note that this list is compiled from moments of extreme frustration over many months. I’m generally a happy person!)
Overall User Interface 1. The menu bar on the Mac makes no sense. It is based on 1984 technology when only one program ran at a time, so every window on the screen belonged to the same program. This approach is ridiculous today when it’s not uncommon to have 15 or more programs running at once, each with several windows, spread across a multiple monitors. For example, I keep Skype and Adium windows open on the far right of my external monitor. To edit a Skype setting, I must navigate to the opposite side of the desktop, across two entire screen widths, just to reach a menu option.
For example, consider how Apple might improve a basic kitchen setup, where they’ve heard complaints of people not knowing where to find controls for their appliances.
http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/kitchen-analogy-windows.png
That’s right: the controls for every kitchen appliance should really be in one place –no matter how far from the actual appliance– so that people always know where to find them!
http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/kitchen-analogy-mac-kitchen.png
(It’s hard to tell in this picture, but those dials are actually changing the microwave (to left of the picture), since thats the last appliance the chef touched. A small line of 12-point text explains which appliance is currently being controlled. It’s so intuitive, and the extra steps to walk across the kitchen are a small price to pay for always knowing where your controls are!)
2. Menu actions take effect on the “topmost” window of an application, but in an age of multiple screens, this is often ambiguous. If I have two screens, and each screen has a window sitting on top, which window is the one I’m operating on?
3. Ghost programs. Program can be running but with no windows, existing only as menu bar. Furthermore, when no windows for an app are open, you get the nonsense situation where many menu actions (E.g. “New Folder” in finder) make no sense at all.
4. Confusing situations when menu bar of window-less app is showing over window of other program. The natural instinct is to think that the menu bar relates to the window which is filling the screen, but the interface leads you astray.
5. No copy-n-paste from calculator widget or dictionary, or any widgets. Just today I needed to calculate the number of seconds in 2 years. It was easy to do use the Mac calculator and even get the answer: 63,072,000. But it is impossible to copy that answer into my file. Not only that, but it is also impossible to look at the calculator to transcribe the answer! The only solution is to write the answer down with a pen, or two flip back and forth to insure you remembered it correctly. Glad to have a $2K laptop for this. (See here for more info (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=653113))
6. Undraggable. It is impossible to drag something (like a file from Finder) to an application which is not currently visible. You must carefully arrange windows ahead of time so that both are visible. In Windows. you can drag to a program in the task bar, which then will bring that application window to the front. (Furthermore, in Windows when you drag to the task bar, you can even select from multiple windows of the application.)
7. The only hint that application is running is a few glowing pixels below it.
8. Impossible to perform a double-click and drag (or triple-click and drag) from the touchpad without using the button.
9. No Home or End Keys on Keyboard. Now before you start screaming about using Command-left and Command-right, simmer down and listen for second. The problem is these combinations don’t always work as Home/End, and this inconsistency is enough to make them useless. E.g. in Firefox, Command-left/right are also the shortcuts for navigating forward back/back pages. In Entourage Command-left/right means to jump forward or back by a word, not the entire line. In Terminal Command-left/right means to switch between windows. In Adium Command-left/right switches between Tabs. And in Google Docs, those key combinations don’t do anything at all. It is up to every program to decide if they will offer this super-duper feature, and to decide what key combination to assign. In Entourage, it’s Function-left/right. In the built-in Terminal program, you can only use the oh-so-intuitive Ctrl-A or Ctrl-E.
10. Lack of error reporting overall. E.g. No way to know when you have mis-configured exchange in address book and iSync. If you do enter password or any setting wrong, it just does nothing.
11. Multiple confusing ways of installing applications. Disk images, install programs, disk images with “drag this” instruction pages, install programs on disk images, Stuffit archives, Stuffit archives of installers, and god knows how many other permutations. All I know is that I always end up with disk images left over all over the place. And by the way, it is not at all intuitive that within a “disk image” you should have to drag one icon (“the app”) to another icon (“applications”) in order to install a program on your laptop. Sometime try explaining this technique to your parents or a non-technical peer sometime.
12. Can’t navigate buttons in dialog box with arrow keys (e.g. switching between “ok” and “cancel”) CORRECTION: You can, but have to turn this option on. (Learn how here (http://www.macyourself.com/2009/08/22/navigate-mac-os-x-dialog-boxes-using-only-your-keyboard/).)
13. Can’t access dialog elements with keyboard shortcuts. Must use the Mouse or Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab-Tab to get around. Ridiculously slow way of navigating complex dialog boxes that you must use often. (E.g. The Find/Replace box in Eclipse.) In contrast, Windows dialogs may be quickly navigated by pressing Alt in combination of the underlined letter of the field.
14. Many (most?) lists cannot be navigated with arrow keys. Again you are forced to use the damn mouse for a task where keys are much better. The frustrating thing here is that works in some applications.
http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mac-no-arrows-font.png (http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mac-no-arrows-font.png)
Want to go through a list of 500 fonts? Yep, you gotta click on each one in turn, and don’t forget to play with the little scroll bar to move new items into view. Ugh.
http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mac-no-arrows-characters.png (http://wanderingstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mac-no-arrows-characters.png)
15. No auto-resize of columns. You can’t double-click a heading divider boundary (e.g. in a list of files) to have it expand to show all items. E.g. in Finder when a column is too narrow, you should be able to double-click the column divider which expands it big enough to show all data in the rows. In Mac you have to drag the column manually, which sometime means also having to re-size the window first. It should also remember the size when you change it.
16. Lack of OK and Cancel buttons in preference boxes. No way to undo when you know you messed up some setting but don’t remember how it was. For example, when I was midway through changing email settings and then realized I was editing the wrong account. Oops! No way to get back the values I’d changed. And in any case, merely clicking the close button just feels wrong, and trains people the wrong way. (This is not the right behavior when editing a spreadsheet or document, for example!)

18. Minimizing creates confusing flow. Minimizing window takes it completely out of alt-tab cycle. it appears only unreadable thumbnail. No way to minimize a window just to see window below. More on this later.
19. No universal keyboard shortcuts. Every menu bar option in Windows interface is accessible via the Alt key. On Mac, if menu has no defined keyboard shortcut, you’re SOL unless you take the time to manually add one. Correction: It is possible (learned about it here (http://www.xvsxp.com/misc/keyboard.php)), but combination is l-o-n-g: FN-CNTRL-F2, letters of menu, down-arrow, letters of command, ENTER. For example, in Firefox let’s set the Zoom option to “text only”:


Windows: ALT-V, Z, T
Mac: CTRL-FUNCTION-F2, V, ENTER, Z, ENTER, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, ENTER.

20. Font bluring is lame. Kindofa preference, but small fonts are still more readable under windows. MS smooths fonts to pixel boundaries, so small fonts look readable. No luck on mac. See here (http://swissmiss.typepad.com/weblog/2007/06/font-smoothing-.html) and here (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html).
21. Zoom/Maximize button is absolutely ridiculous, as is the whole stoplight analogy. In iTunes, the “+” button actaully shrinks the window. In Finder, the behaviour is completely random, other programs expand to only most of the screen. This is a long-standing problem that many have complained about (http://www.google.com/search?q=maximize+button+os+x).
22. Confusing situation with programs that exist only as icons on menu bar. E.g. Mozy: Sometimes it shows a modal dialog box, but this box doesn’t show up in the Command-tab flow, [I]nor does it show up in Expos

[DiscGo]

65!!!!

And that doesn't even include how much better Windows does with multiple monitors, plus about a billion other things in the work place.

[accadacca]

Nerdy engineers use windows...fact. :lol8:

[rockgremlin]

LMFAO at that list of 65. Sooooooo true. Every time I jump on my friend's Mac at first I think to myself "ooooh, I'm being kewl and using a Mac." About 00000.65th of a second later I think to myself "How can anybody prefer this piece of dogshit over Windows?!"


And that doesn't even include how much better Windows does with multiple monitors, plus about a billion other things in the work place.

So true.



Nerdy engineers use windows...fact.

This is the best rebuttal Mac users can muster.

[wnorton]

Wow, such passion. ;)



From wnorton using an iPad and Tapatalk HD.

[bigred72]

Fact: mac users pay thousands of dollars more and still buy parallels to run windows on it.

[DiscGo]

43. Thumbnails are tiny, and no way to preview at full size
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^This one has been driving me crazy lately. I don't know why OSX doesn't allow you to simply customize your view on things, and I never appreciated how simple it is in Windows until I got a Mac.

I really had no idea how many ways Windows had it right until I got a Mac. That being said I hope Microsoft can get Windows 8 worked out because I dislike it way more than I ever disliked Vista.

[accadacca]

Another day at the office for rockgremlin

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[accadacca]

And the rest of you windows users on a Friday night... :haha:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87iaczrVd1rokvkzo1_500.gif

[Sombeech]

Fact: mac users pay thousands of dollars more and still buy parallels to run windows on it.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/216/7nTnr.png

[stefan]

^This one has been driving me crazy lately. I don't know why OSX doesn't allow you to simply customize your view on things, and I never appreciated how simple it is in Windows until I got a Mac.


i'm still running snow leopard but i believe it's similar in mtn lion. it seems to depend if one is talking about a finder window or in a dialog box when selecting a file, e.g., selecting/opening a file from within an application.

in any finder window it is straightforward to resize thumbnails/icons either using a slider at the bottom of any finder window (in icon view) or using the cmd-j popup (which allows for more customization). in a open/select dialog box, i'm not sure whether there is a way to resize the icons.

however i disagree with the section in DCs post (that you partially quoted here) which says there is no way to preview an item in a window. if you're in a open/select dialogue box you can easily preview an item by selecting the item so it's highlighted and clicking the space bar to use quicklook. if you're in a finder window you also can right click and select quicklook from the contextual menu to preview (or use the space bar).

[DiscGo]

I really hope that I am wrong here.

From my experience, and from what I have read online I can have a small thumbnail preview (as seen here)
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Or I can have a larger preview where I can only see one or two files at a time (as seen here)
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In Windows I can quickly resize my thumbnails on the fly and make them pretty much as large or small as I want (as seen here)
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[stefan]

I really hope that I am wrong here.

From my experience, and from what I have read online I can have a small thumbnail preview (as seen here)


ok gotcha. from the menu bar in finder, select View>Show Status Bar and this should bring up another bar below the path at the bottom of the finder window that has a slider on it allowing you to scale the size of the icons.

cmd-j is another way to do this without using the status bar.

these will apply only to the finder window that you're viewing and changing, but it's possible also to set the size globally if there is a default size you would prefer in icon view (using cmd-j, set the size, and select "use as defaults").

[phatch]

Bonus reason

[*=left]They have high-quality parts



There was a time early in Macintosh life where this was true with SCSI drives, and so on. BUt once Apple abandoned the PowerPC archtiecture for intel and PC parts, this is simply not true. They use the same parts which is why Windows is so easy to run on a Mac.

OK, not precisely the same parts. A small subset of parts which usually lag the release curve and so are not the best or even better parts available to the computer market.

[DiscGo]

ok gotcha. from the menu bar in finder, select View>Show Status Bar and this should bring up another bar below the path at the bottom of the finder window that has a slider on it allowing you to scale the size of the icons.

cmd-j is another way to do this without using the status bar.

these will apply only to the finder window that you're viewing and changing, but it's possible also to set the size globally if there is a default size you would prefer in icon view (using cmd-j, set the size, and select "use as defaults").

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[stefan]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

sure thing, discgo

[bigred72]

There was a time early in Macintosh life where this was true with SCSI drives, and so on. BUt once Apple abandoned the PowerPC archtiecture for intel and PC parts, this is simply not true. They use the same parts which is why Windows is so easy to run on a Mac.

OK, not precisely the same parts. A small subset of parts which usually lag the release curve and so are not the best or even better parts available to the computer market.

I recently bought a laptop. The motherboard, processor, graphics card, hard drive, etc, etc, etc were the same in a mac as the pc I bought. The pc was 1/3 the price.

[rockgremlin]

Another day at the office for @rockgremlin (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=5)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7z9aEd0Xha0/S8yxVHcPatI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/3nm-eX0z1O8/s1600/nerd1.jpg


I wish. This dude is pimp. Check him out with his pack of Kool Menthol Lights resting on the CPU. Dark, thick-framed, Coke-bottle bottomed eyeglasses....they're even tinted. Not gonna divert his camera pose even to flick the ashes from his cigarette, which have now grown to almost an inch long.

Not to mention that dot-matrix printer is sexzy as hell...:naughty:

[Garbanzo]

I think I might know who you're referring to.:D I only used Parallels for QuickBooks but am now running it online. No more Parallels.
I was convinced by a close friend 3 years ago how much better Macs are and how everything is like magic to setup and install. That was far from the truth. I've found it to have a beautiful display, quiet, cheap software upgrades and no real maintenance to keep it running right. THAT BEING SAID: Everything else is better with a PC. Macs OS is terrible and it is definitely not user friendly in my opinion. I can get on a PC now and still find my way around easier. It's probably because I'm a bit of a computer illiterate, but isn't that the point of owning a Mac? It should be easier for a guy like me, but it's just not. Also, it's not very fast and it has become buggy over time. I will say that I would expect to have reinstalled Windows at least once in 3 years on a PC, so that's another point for the Mac.
If I were to spend that kind of money on a new computer now, it would definitely be a PC. Just my honest opinion.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

[phatch]

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=24380856&nid=1014&title=5-reasons-pcs-are-better-than-macs

Here's the pc vc mac response. To be fair, I'll criticize some of his points here too.

2. Office Microsoft Office is a bug fest. Most business workers won't encounter a lot of them, true. I'm a professional writer, writing big nasty awful technical documentation. Bullets and numbering are still broken and have been broken for more than 20 years. You can have either an accurate Table of Contents or an accurate Index, but not both. If you don't use the default paragraph formats, your book will break formatting a lot and the default formats are poorly designed. Word is slow, particularly in large documents. FrameMaker blows Word away for professional documentation. If you're just writing a memo, Word is overkill. Kword, for free is a great option as well.

Power point is a cludge. Excel has a lot of great features not found elsewhere, but few people use them.

Visio is nice, but was bought by Microsoft, not created there.

5. It's what you know how to use. Well, most PC users are about as clueless as the mac users frankly. I have an English degree and I do the tech suport and service for my friends, extended family, and neighbors, many of whom are engineers. I know how to use it, but so many others do not.

[Iceaxe]

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