Canyoneering shoes

[mcweyen]

Last year, I did five canyons in the Cedar Mesa area and used a pair of brand new New Balance MT411 trail runners. They gripped really well and made it through the trip, but by the end, they were starting to split open and the tread on the bottom was worn away an amazing amount.

I'm wondering if anyone has a reasonably priced shoe that will hold up to at least two canyoneering trips this year. Three or more canyons in North Wash is the first trip and then five or more canyons in Escalante, including Choprock is the second trip. I know about five tens and may have to go that route, but was hoping to keep cost down on shoes if possible.

Thanks for any tips.

[Bootboy]

I have 5.10 savants that I seam-gripped the crap out of preemptively. They kick ass. They are discontinued though, look around, you might be able to snag a pair. Another option is the 5.10 guide tennies I used a hot nail to melt holes in the canvas to allow drainage. Also a killer grippy shoe.

[kiwi_outdoors]

I used approach shoes. So far. The only exception was my last trip, more hiking than anything, new North Face boots, and they came unbonded at the perimeter of the laced section. Both boots!!!North Face replaced them.

Exception: wife and I rented Canyoneers for the Zion Narrows hike and 5mm socks. That worked out great.

[Slot Machine]

I know about five tens and may have to go that route, but was hoping to keep cost down on shoes if possible.

In the long run you will spend more money on destroying 'lesser' shoes. Just get the 5.10 Canyoneers. Other shoes have eyelets and seams that get chewed up in the NW and Escalante.

Also, get new insoles before you take your 5.10's out. The stock 5.10 insoles suck. Famous Footware has good insoles for cheap.

Finally, I hope you post a Choprock TR when you get back. I'm on the fence about doing it this year and would love to hear about your perspective upon your return.

[TommyBoy]

If you look around sometimes you can find used 5.10's for pretty cheap that still have some life in them too, I guess it just depends on how long you want them for.

[Mojave Silence]

5.10 Insights or their Exum Guide

[hank moon]

More shoes thread:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?63614-Best-Shoe-for-Canyoneering

[xxnitsuaxx]

Chacos. I took my pro-sole Chacos through 50+ canyons and they held up through all of them. They're WAY more comfortable than the 5.10 Canyoneers and they're more multifunctional. You can't really use the Canyoneers for anything except canyoneering - and my friends will usually carry different shoes for the approach and exit and just the the Canyoneers for the canyon. But you definitely LOOK more like a canyoneer if you wear the 5.10s!

[mcweyen]

Is this the pair of Chacos you have XX? http://www.backcountry.com/chaco-tedinho-pro-water-boot-mens?CMP_SKU=CHA0163&MER=0406&CMP_ID=SH_PRG001&mv_pc=r120&003=7163972&010=CHA0163-TWE-S10&mr:referralID=ef08ee23-82c7-11e2-8751-001b2166c2c0
I found these on ebay for $25 shipped. Hard to beat that price to test out for at least one trip.
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Thanks for all the advice!

[mcweyen]

Ok, I found a pair of previously owned (looks like never used) 5.10 Insights on ebay for next to nothing! I'm set on canyoneering shoes for a while. Ah yeah!

[hank moon]

Ok, I found a pair of previously owned (looks like never used) 5.10 Insights on ebay for next to nothing! I'm set on canyoneering shoes for a while. Ah yeah!

:2thumbs:

Note: Zion Adventure Co. in Springdale sells off used Canyoneers at the end of every season for $10.00 a pair - well worth it to pick up a couple pair.

[mcweyen]

Oh man that's good to know! Is that online or on site?

[jman]

Oh man that's good to know! Is that online or on site?

In person. Get there early when you can cause all the common sizes will be taken first.

[Sandstone Addiction]

Do they sell them all off at the end of the season?

The reason I ask is I went in there last August and asked them when they planned on selling off the current rental stock (I'd seen this posted before) and the salesman told me that they don't sell them all at the end of the season, they sell them as they wear out. He directed me to a rack outside the store and after seeing them, I could see why they were only $10. I would still buy a pair, but I'd plan on spending at least $25 at the local cobbler to get a few more miles out of them...


I hope I got bad info and someone can set me straight.

[hank moon]

Well...when I was there, it was a mix. Yeah, they did put stuff out as it wore out, but there was definitely a larger, end-season inspection that resulted in a bunch of stuff being put out all at once. So, both things are kinda true. It's very informal.

[tcott]

I have 5.10 savants that I seam-gripped the crap out of preemptively. They kick ass. They are discontinued though, look around, you might be able to snag a pair.

X2 for the Savants, I love mine.


In the long run you will spend more money on destroying 'lesser' shoes. Just get the 5.10 Canyoneers. Other shoes have eyelets and seams that get chewed up in the NW and Escalante.



I've never actually owned a pair, but everyone I've talked to about the 5.10 canyoneers absolutely hates them. One even went as far as saying they were the worst shoes he's ever owned.

[Slot Machine]

I've never actually owned a pair, but everyone I've talked to about the 5.10 canyoneers absolutely hates them. One even went as far as saying they were the worst shoes he's ever owned.

Yeah it is kind of a love/hate relationship with those shoes. New insoles completely change how you will feel about them at the end of a long day. I really like the 5.10's straps because I've severed a few laces in the North Wash, and torn out a couple of eyelets. Those are a pain to fix when you are in-canyon. I'm very hard on my gear, so my Savant's didn't even last 10 canyons.

There are some things that could be improved on the 5.10 Canyoneers: They could improve the little rubber thing that holds the straps down. They could make them for women's feet (my wife hates hers). They are ugly and heavy.

On the plus side, they stay tight on your feet, never come unlaced, drain well, keep the sand out, and are very tough. Obviously, it depends on what's most important to you, but I like em.

[Mountaineer]

5.10 Canyoneers. Love 'em and hate 'em, but wouldn't use anything else. I take extra dry socks to put on for the long hike back out.

[ilipichicuma]

I love my canyoneers. They are the shizzle. Plus, I don't think the insoles are a huge issue. I also think they're good hiking shoes in general, and I've worn them on just standard hikes and been great. They've gone through over 20 canyons for me now and are still in great shape.

[Iceaxe]

I have a pair of 5.10 Savants. They are a good shoe for most things, but they will not last more then a couple hard mae west canyons. The stitching is to exposed.

There is a reason 5.10 Canyoneers are so popular, and that is because they are often the best option.


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[mzamp]

In my canyoneers I had to put an extra hole in my strap because I couldn't get them tight enough. they have caused me to lose toenails if I do long approach/exits in them. So on occasion I will also pack my running shoes for the exit with dry socks. The extra weight is sometimes worth it to me anyway.