Zion - Sidewinder

[Iceaxe]

What happened to the Sidewinder TR that was posted on Bogley a few days ago?

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Dec 2, 2012

[Slot Machine]

:patch: :popcorn:

[Deathcricket]

I sense a 5 page thread coming on.... :popcorn:


Actually I take that back. Kody is just too easy going and chill to get along with. I do recall that TR though, bummed I missed out going, looked like they had fun.

[deagol]

show don't tell ???

[Iceaxe]

I sense a 5 page thread coming on.... :popcorn:


I sense a canyon has just moved to the top of my must beta list. Having goals keeps me going strong. :stud:

[Slot Machine]

@2065toyota (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=19869) , man I would be pretty upset if my TR just vanished. Especially after you put together such a good one. I'm not picking on you man, you seem like a great guy, but what is going on here?

Also, I have been told explicitly by Bogley mods, that no thread should ever be deleted, no matter the reason. This issue is a big deal to me since I spent much time and energy trying to get one particular thread deleted. I'm a HUGE fan of the mods around here, and I'm not picking on you either, but what say you mods?

Bob

[stefan]

Also, I have been told explicitly by Bogley mods, that no thread should ever be deleted, no matter the reason.

really? that sounds extreme. i delete spam threads whenever i see them. i don't see why they shouldn't be deleted.

[Slot Machine]

really? that sounds extreme. i delete spam threads whenever i see them. i don't see why they shouldn't be deleted.

:roll:

Was hoping for something a little more constructive for someone on the inside.

[Iceaxe]

The thread was deleted by one of the non-canyoneer mods through a misunderstanding/accident/ unintentional deal. He was trying to help someone from his cell phone and suffered a failure. The threads owner was aware of the incedent when it happened. I became aware of the problem when someone PMed me asking WTF.

As a general rule non spam items are not deleted. When items are deleted they are supposed to be soft deleted so they can be recovered.

Anyhoo... feel free to discuss Sidewinder here. I've never done the route but ZAC's website says its near Lambs Knoll on the Kolob Terrence Road.

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[Slot Machine]

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[Slot Machine]

The thread was deleted by one of the non-canyoneer mods through a misunderstanding/accident/unintentional deal.

:roll: :facepalm1:

[Sombeech]

guilty

[2065toyota]

Why would I be pissed if I requested my own thread to be deleted. There is a very legitimate reason behind it whether you agree with it or not thats not my problem. I wouldn't spend too much time and energy worrying about. I can make you a list of about 100 canyon I would do before this one. There is no harm done to anybody or anything I guess I don't really understand what the underlying issue is here of getting upset

[ratagonia]

The thread was deleted by one of the non-canyoneer mods through a misunderstanding/accident/ unintentional deal.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :roll:

:moses:

[stefan]

:roll:

Was hoping for something a little more constructive for someone on the inside.

sorry, didn't mean too much by it except I'm not really a fan of absolutes. anyone is free to delete their own posts as they wish and, while I agree, for the most part, that threads shouldn't be deleted I wouldn't say never.

[Slot Machine]

There is a very legitimate reason behind it whether you agree with it or not thats not my problem.

And the reason is?


anyone is free to delete their own posts as they wish

Wow man, zero for two. Uh, yeah, I was also told that deleting posts is strongly frowned upon, and that the privilege to edit could be taken away if one's editing was detrimental to the site. I effectively, and intentionally crippled a thread that was moving at 1,000 hits a day by doing this. Yeah, bad form. And I later fixed it.

[2065toyota]

The mods should not delete other peoples threads for sure.

Why do you have a problem with me deleting my own thread. Would you have felt a warm fuzzy feeling if I had left the thread but just deleted all the content of it

What is it that you actually want to know and what is your point?

[Iceaxe]

Why do you have a problem with me deleting my own thread. Would you have felt a warm fuzzy feeling if I had left the thread but just deleted all the content of it

Deleting threads in a form, including your own, is considered bad manners and poor form.... kinda like farting in church, you can do it, but it never goes over well.

And when it comes to beta, deleting always creates a bigger impact than just letting it roll over to page 2.


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[2065toyota]

Understood


However, it is fun to fart in church because nobody can leave

[Slot Machine]

The mods should not delete other peoples threads for sure.
Agreed.

Why do you have a problem with me deleting my own thread.
Because you can, and I can't. It mattered a while back.

Would you have felt a warm fuzzy feeling if I had left the thread but just deleted all the content of it
Man, no need to be snide Kody, I have no beef with you. :hippy: You would have been just as wrong as I was, when I deleted all of my content from my "interesting" thread.

What is it that you actually want to know and what is your point?
I simply want to know why the thread was deleted. My point is you shouldn't get privileges that I don't get.

:phew: Answered all of your questions. Now... will you answer mine?

[Slot Machine]

guilty

Where is the "Dislike this post" button? :haha:

[ratagonia]

Deleting threads in a form, including your own, is considered bad manners and poor form.... kinda like farting in church, you can do it, but it never goes over well.

And when it comes to beta deleting always creates a bigger impact than just letting it roll over to page 2.


People fart in church all the time...

Well, actually, since if I went, I'd go to a Unitarian Church - lots of vegetarians - if you know what I mean; my experience may be different that yours.

Did you mean "Deleting threads in a forum...?" :naughty::crazy::nono::cry1::roll::facepalm1:

'Cause, ya know, Ice, when you're laying down the law, you might wanna speil thinks correctlie so people un'stand what ya mean.:slobber:

T :moses:

[stefan]

I was also told that deleting posts is strongly frowned upon, and that the privilege to edit could be taken away if one's editing was detrimental to the site..

interesting ...

[2065toyota]

guilty

Sorry. I was trying to avoid the drama by deleting the entire thread because I don't believe in "Show, but dont tell". If I wasn't going to tell, then I decided I wouldn't show. But that worked out as well as trying to hide a pizza at a Weight Watchers convention.

"You can't please everybody, if you try to you end up pleasing nobody":2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

How about we get back on track.... anyone want to talk about sidewinder? Maybe post a few pics or video?

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[dweaver2130]

....so confused, feels like I walked into a fart cloud in church!

So is this a good canyon?

[oldno7]

Shane, holler when ya come down, I'll go with ya to beta this crack...,.

I'm guessing tom asked him to remove the thread, since zac uses the area.

I've stayed out of this area in the past but now that some are deleting entire threads on it----it must be reaally, really good.:facepalm1:

[2065toyota]

This thread really should just come to an end

Slot got to voice his concerns and his questions answered.

ice got to poke his fun

pretty entertaining that drama threads get more view than trip reports do.

[gingerproblems]

For what it's worth, anyone sad the TR is gone shouldn't be. I went down the canyon system yesterday and it's on the bottom of my canyon rating list. It's a couple rappels through a crack in the rock and took me only twenty minutes to go through on my own. I would only go there again to teach someone how to rappel in a canyon setting. You aren't missing out on much. If in the area and you don't want to do a Zion canyon do Yankee D or Bolt

[2065toyota]

It's about egos not trip reports

[Iceaxe]

It's about egos not trip reports

Actually.... I think it's not about ego, but the lack of a trip report. :roflol:

[moab mark]

Here's a few picture. ZAC's took our Scouts 7 or 8 years ago. I don't remember where it is.

Mark

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[moab mark]

This was the activity that got me involved in this sport. Jonathon gave me some pointers and away I went.

[ratagonia]

I object!!!! Someone deleted the CATS!

hmmmm. Must be something special about those cat videos... I gotta investigate!

Tom :moses:

[Iceaxe]

I object!!!! Someone deleted the CATS!

hmmmm. Must be something special about those cat videos... I gotta investigate!

Nothing deleted... The Cats now have their own thread...
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?66795

Please keep this thread on topic.

Enjoy

[Eric Holden]

It's about egos not trip reports

Of course its about egos..... What's more important than my ego?:crazycobasa: