View Full Version : Over and Under or Side by Side the best?
willcfish
11-21-2012, 12:28 PM
Many people are using Double Barrels these days. What are
your thoughts on them and differences between the two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LxU7i_GVeQ
Eric Holden
11-26-2012, 05:47 AM
Over Under = My fav.
Iceaxe
11-26-2012, 07:00 AM
I own several O/U's and they are sweet. S/S are pretty much a dying style and are not manufacturered by the top gun makers or if they do its only in one style. A S/S is like shooting looking over a cows ass compared to an O/U.
I really like Browning's as they are bulletproof compared to everything else, no matter the price range. My family has owned everything over the years as both my dad and step mom have won national titles in skeet and sporting clays (I won a couple sporting clay state championships).
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ilanimaka
11-26-2012, 12:50 PM
The O/U is really the way to go anymore when it comes to a double barrelled shotty. I've owned and hunted with both and found the SxS to require more thought during the leading process prior to squeezing the trigger. The O/U was always more enjoyable and less work.
REDFOX
11-27-2012, 08:51 PM
A side by side is generally speaking lighter weight, quicker swinging and pointing, and more expensive to build and to buy. Because of the expense not very many manufacturers offer a side by side. The over and under shotguns or easier to build and are cheaper to buy. Traditional upland hunters usually prefer side by sides while skeet shooters use over and under shotguns. My favorite is the winchester model 21 grand american and royal exhibition grades. A shotgun is the only gun that I have seen being made custome fit to a specific person. If money is no object check out the holland and holland or Purdy models. With all that has been said, the best shotgun is the one that you enjoy shooting personally. If I were to buy and over and under, I would look for a 1980's browning citori made in Japan for around 1000.00.
Iceaxe
11-27-2012, 09:30 PM
A side by side is generally speaking lighter weight, quicker swinging and pointing, and more expensive to build and to buy. Because of the expense not very many manufacturers offer a side by side. The over and under shotguns or easier to build and are cheaper to buy..
Actually you have that backwards.... all things being equal.... the O/U is more expensive to build and buy. The S/S Browning has always been cheaper than the O/U, The S/S SKB has always been cheaper than the O/U, The S/S Perrazi has always been cheaper than the O/U, yada, yada.... the cost has to do with aligning the barrels which is more expensive on the O/U.
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, I would look for a 1980's browning citori made in Japan for around 1000.00.
If buying a Citori you want one with the Invector Plus chokes which they didn't start using until 1989. Before that they used Invector choke tubes and before that (70's and 80's) they used fixed chokes. Also the newer Citori's have back-bored barrel's (barrels are overbored slightly) which helps a scatter gun pattern better.
You can have an older Citori fitted with Invector Chokes, but it costs about $100 a barrel plus you have to buy the chokes at $50 a pop (a used Citori should come with at least 3 chokes). Personally I use Briley Chokes to replace the Browning chokes which run about $75 a pop. But that is not a requirement unless you are shooting at a highly competitive level.
But bottomline.... you will not go wrong buying a Citori.
Sandstone Addiction
11-28-2012, 08:35 AM
http://www.mossberg.com/assets/scripts/timthumb.php?w=625&zc=0&src=http://www.mossberg.com/sites/default/files/1343746961/75412_SROU_12ga_28.png
Mossberg Silver Reserve II
Selling for about $565
Does anyone have any experience with one like this Turkish made Mossberg or any other bargain shotgun of Eastern European origin?
Deathcricket
11-28-2012, 08:50 AM
My personal preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8
REDFOX
11-28-2012, 09:05 PM
I don't think very highly of Mossberg shotguns. I wouldn't except one if someone tried to give me one. If you are looking for a decent over and under that is new and under a 1000.00 you might consider CZ.
Bootboy
11-29-2012, 02:39 AM
I've hunted with a Browning side by side BSS and a Beretta silver pigeon. FWIW, I simply don't miss with the Beretta. The browning just didn't have right feel for me. I prefer OAU.
oldno7
11-29-2012, 05:09 AM
If you want a great mid range O/U, the Ruger Red Label is a fine shooter!!!
I've shot thousands of rounds through mine with zero problems, mostly sporting clays.
oldno7
11-29-2012, 05:12 AM
And since it isn't incredibly spendy--it's going pheasant hunting with me again, tomorrow.(read--not afraid to use outside a controlled environment)
oldno7
11-29-2012, 05:14 AM
now, if you have Shanes money--you probably keep several Red Labels rattling around in the back of your truck for jack handles.
AND--buys Mossbergs just for kindling.......
Iceaxe
11-29-2012, 09:22 AM
If you want a great mid range O/U, the Ruger Red Label is a fine shooter!!
Nothing wrong with a Red Label. There is a pretty good deal on KSL on a ruger (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=23164357&cat=&lpid=&search=ruger red label) right now. Supposed to be like new and comes with two skeet chokes (a $100 value). It also says best offer so if you could talk him down a $100 bucks it becomes even a better deal.
FWIW: The KSL deal comes with the orginal box. I always save my orginal box, including the shipping box (I have an FFL). When you go to resale a gun it is worth more if you have the box. On something like a Red Label it adds about $50 to the price of the gun. It also makes a gun much easier to sale when you can put it back in the orginal box complete with tags as it makes a better presentation to a buyer.
Iceaxe
11-29-2012, 09:49 AM
And since it isn't incredibly spendy--it's going pheasant hunting with me again, tomorrow.(read--not afraid to use outside a controlled environment)
Here is my pheasant and dove gun. It's a 20 ga. SKB 685 with 28" barrels. I love this gun.
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Sandstone Addiction
11-29-2012, 06:42 PM
If you want a great mid range O/U, the Ruger Red Label is a fine shooter!!!
If buying American is important to you, the Ruger Red Label is (correct me if I'm mistaken) the only over/under shotgun made by American craftsmen.
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