Meanwhile in Colorado...

[accadacca]

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[rockgremlin]

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[accadacca]

[Sombeech]

And I still have one BITCH of a time getting some pain relief for my 3X operated on knees :angryfire:

[Iceaxe]

You guys have missed that Colorado and Washington legalized recreational marijuana. While I'm not a toker I thinks this is a good thing. They should legalize all drugs, force users to register, and tax the hell out of it.

By legalizing marijuana you can eliminate the income stream for a lot of criminal elements.

By forcing registration you can pin-point your criminals, I mean really, if a guy has a $300 a day habit and no job it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where the money is flowing from.

By taxing it you can fund a lot of programs, both drug related and elsewhere.

To me legalizing drugs is a no-brainer.... I don't see why others have a hard time figuring it out.

:soapbox:

[rockgremlin]

And I still have one BITCH of a time getting some pain relief for my 3X operated on knees :angryfire:


Those who want get: Oxycodone/Oxycontin

Those who need get: Motrin/Tylenol

The drug policies in this country are all f**ed up. That said, I believe it is only a matter of time until pot is legalized all across the board, licensed, and sold like alcohol. Much of the reason why it's not legalized currently is because of a generation gap. I shared this idea with my mom who started flapping her arms around and saying all kinds of nonsense, quoting bogus "studies," and telling me about how thousands of people overdose on Marijuana a year. :roflol: Nice try mom.

[rockgremlin]

“The voters have spoken and we have to respect their will,” Hickenlooper said. “This will be a complicated process, but we intend to follow through. That said, federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug, so don’t break out the Cheetos or Goldfish too quickly.”

-Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/07/pot-legalization-measures-top-long-list-state-ballot-initiatives/#ixzz2BYPNs3c5


So, Marijuana for recreational use is now legal (according to state law) in Colorado AND Washington. Good for them. The tide is slowly but surely turning.

[Scott Card]

Just what this country needs. More stupid.

[rockgremlin]

Just what this country needs. More stupid.

The stupid is already there. Pot is easier to get than the flu. Give me a break. If the masses are already doing it clandestinely, then may as well generate some revenue here in the U.S. instead of sending all of our drug money across the border into Mexico/Canada.

Tax and regulate.

[Scott Card]

The word "more" is important.

[rockgremlin]

The word "more" is important.

"Depends upon what your definition of the word "is" is." :lol8:

[Scott Card]

Democrate! :haha:

[rockgremlin]

Democrate! :haha:


Democrate: The nemesis of poor-spelling Republicans. :haha:

[Scott Card]

:facepalm1: Where is the Diet Dr. Pepper.

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

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[rockgremlin]

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[rockgremlin]

You're late to the party. We're all eating Cheetos and smoking bongs in this thread: http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?66386-Meanwhile-in-Colorado

I agree. I think it's a good thing. The Feds need to pull their heads outta their arses and do the practical thing.


Someone merge these threads please...

[Iceaxe]

Who wants to invest in a dispensary with me? I have plenty of guns so don't worry about the business being robbed.

[rockgremlin]

Who wants to invest in a dispensary with me? I have plenty of guns so don't worry about the business being robbed.


It's a great idea. Unfortunately Utah would probably maintain an illegal stance towards it even if it was legalized by the Feds. :roll:

[Iceaxe]

I'm seriously considering the idea. The best way to make a lot of cash is get in on the ground floor of something new. Bank rolling the project is not an issue... but finding the time and energy to be the first to jump through the thousands of hoops is a major concern.


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[Scott P]

The best way to make a lot of cash is get in on the ground floor of something new.

You're probably too late for the Colorado bandwagon. Pot stores are nothing new in Colorado and it takes a few dollars and about 30 seconds to get a "perscription". Here is Craig, a town small enough that you can ride a bike across in a few minutes has at least three long standing pot stores (not hidden, but with big signs). The only difference now is that you don't have to pay a few dollars for the "percription" because it is now legally recreational.

Leadville, a town of about 2800 people had at least nine "medical" dispensaries at last count. They sure have a lot of sick people that are in dire need of medical marijuana. What percent of the population has to be deathly ill to support that many dispensaries in a town that small?

[Sombeech]

So here's the question after the cheeto stains are wiped from the fingertips...

What percentage of the existing Marijuana culture will quit partaking the home grown herb, and head over to the shop? What happens to those who continue to harvest the higher (pun intended) quality product instead of partaking of the government regulated oppressed plant?

[Byron]

You're probably too late for the Colorado bandwagon. Pot stores are nothing new in Colorado and it takes a few dollars and about 30 seconds to get a "perscription". Here is Craig, a town small enough that you can ride a bike across in a few minutes has at least three long standing pot stores (not hidden, but with big signs). The only difference now is that you don't have to pay a few dollars for the "percription" because it is now legally recreational.

Leadville, a town of about 2800 people had at least nine "medical" dispensaries at last count. They sure have a lot of sick people that are in dire need of medical marijuana. What percent of the population has to be deathly ill to support that many dispensaries in a town that small?Lots of people operate businesses as a hedge against others they own. In other words, the pot dispensary that "looses" money is used to offset taxes paid on the business that actually makes money.

A hiking buddy of mine owns a bookstore here in Denver. It's a little place off Broadway, with lots of ratty books on dusty shelves. It doesn't make a dime...but it saves him plenty in taxes when he writes off the "loss". All kinds of ways to game the system...

[powderglut]

Here's today's latest. I told my daughter she better start her own 6 plants, because there probably won't be a legit place to buy it for almost a year. Lot's of red tape and tax issues. And .... it's still illegal federally.
Most of the medical dispensaries don't want the feds coming down on them, so may stay out of the regular retail until someone comes up with a plan.



http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/2012/nov/07/what-will-feds-say/

[live2ride]

So do you have to be a resident of Colorado in order to be protected by the law? I bet most employers will still have it against policy so this will be interesting to watch

[rockgremlin]

So do you have to be a resident of Colorado in order to be protected by the law? I bet most employers will still have it against policy so this will be interesting to watch


I agree...this issue is quite intriguing. I read an article the other day that was written by a doctor that lamented the legalization because of a number of societal and health dangers...and then it concluded by saying that legalization was the right thing to do. :haha:

So for those of you who live in Colorado or Washington --- have you seen folks strutting around brazenly smoking pot in public?

[live2ride]

I would imagine that this is going to be treated a lot like alcohol? I would think they wouldn't want people walking down the street smoking a doobie.

[rockgremlin]

"In Routt County, where a total of 63 percent of voters supported Amendment 64, Sheriff Garrett Wiggins acknowledged that while he wasn’t surprised the measure passed, “obviously it was not to my liking.” Wiggins was among the heads of local and regional law enforcement agencies who spoke out against Amendment 64 before the election (http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/2012/nov/03/local-law-enforcement-officers-vote-no-amendment-6/), citing in part a concern that it might increase use of marijuana among children."

IMO, this is an asinine statement. So, since alcohol and tobacco may be at some point be accessible to children, should we ban those substances as well?

Why is Marijuana a Schedule 1 drug? - Lumped right in there with LSD, Exstacy, and Heroin, and scheduled above cocaine, morphine, and PCP. It's ABSURD!!

http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/dea/pubs/legaliz/94088-21.gif

[Sombeech]

I would imagine that this is going to be treated a lot like alcohol?

EXACTLY! What the potheads don't understand is their battle for legalization will still NEVER allow them to grow their own or buy from their preferred dealer. This legalization means almost nothing to the "progressive" movement because it does not involve the home grown crop in any way. It's still illegal!

There have already been synthetic marijuana substitutes manufactured that provide the same "healing" qualities, but without the high. Watch for these to arrive at your government sponsored head shops soon. You want the government to support your marijuana use? Watch out for their answer.

[rockgremlin]

EXACTLY! What the potheads don't understand is their battle for legalization will still NEVER allow them to grow their own or buy from their preferred dealer. This legalization means almost nothing to the "progressive" movement because it does not involve the home grown crop in any way. It's still illegal!

There have already been synthetic marijuana substitutes manufactured that provide the same "healing" qualities, but without the high. Watch for these to arrive at your government sponsored head shops soon. You want the government to support your marijuana use? Watch out for their answer.

I don't think so. The Fed's answer isn't gonna come in the form of "Spice" or even Marinol (a pill containing THC, but is rarely used since the real form is superior). And yes the "potheads" may grow their own. Read the Regs:

(3) Personal use of marijuana. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, THE FOLLOWING ACTS ARE NOT UNLAWFUL AND SHALL NOT BE AN OFFENSE UNDER COLORADO LAW OR THE LAW OF ANY LOCALITY WITHIN COLORADO OR BE A BASIS FOR SEIZURE OR FORFEITURE OF ASSETS UNDER COLORADO LAW FOR PERSONS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER:
(a) POSSESSING, USING, DISPLAYING, PURCHASING, OR TRANSPORTING MARIJUANA ACCESSORIES OR ONE OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA.
(b) POSSESSING, GROWING, PROCESSING, OR TRANSPORTING NO MORE THAN SIX MARIJUANA PLANTS, WITH THREE OR FEWER BEING MATURE, FLOWERING PLANTS, AND POSSESSION OF THE MARIJUANA PRODUCED BY THE PLANTS ON THE PREMISES WHERE THE PLANTS WERE GROWN, PROVIDED THAT THE GROWING TAKES PLACE IN AN ENCLOSED, LOCKED SPACE, IS NOT CONDUCTED OPENLY OR PUBLICLY, AND IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE FOR SALE.
(c) TRANSFER OF ONE OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA WITHOUT REMUNERATION TO A PERSON WHO IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
(d) CONSUMPTION OF MARIJUANA, PROVIDED THAT NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL PERMIT CONSUMPTION THAT IS CONDUCTED OPENLY AND PUBLICLY OR IN A MANNER THAT ENDANGERS OTHERS.
(e) ASSISTING ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER IN ANY OF THE ACTS DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPHS (a) THROUGH (d) OF THIS SUBSECTION.

[Sombeech]

Ah, I missed the 6 plants part. :bandit:

[Scott P]

Ah, I missed the 6 plants part. :bandit:

I knew it. I tried to warn you that Mountain Dew was a gateway drug. Now you are looking into growing pot?

I thought some photos I saw look mysteriously like 'Beech.:mrgreen:

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4573702871713569&pid=1.9

[rockgremlin]

I knew it. I tried to warn you that Mountain Dew was a gateway drug. Now you are looking into growing pot?

I thought some photos I saw look mysteriously like 'Beech.:mrgreen:

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4573702871713569&pid=1.9


The regs basically support the use of weed for personal use. They just don't want folks to become distributors....which would inevitably lead to smuggling across inter-state borders.

The Feds have 2 options at this point as I see it:

1. Decriminalize on a national level, tax and regulate - which would generate income.

or

2. Fight Colorado & Washington tooth and nail, and force them to overturn state laws - which in addition to causing riots, costs money.

MESSAGE TO OBAMA: DO THE PRACTICAL THING. I didn't say "right thing" for a reason, as the term "right" is a subjective one, and has varying definitions according to who you ask.

[rockgremlin]

From the AP:

"The current Mexican administration has been vehemently opposed to pro-marijuana measures in the U.S., and President Felipe Calderon spoke out against a similar legalization move in California two years ago. Calderon and members of his Cabinet remained silent Wednesday on the U.S. votes."


Hmmmmmmm....I wonder why?

[Sombeech]

MESSAGE TO OBAMA: DO THE PRACTICAL THING.

:lol8: Like his BIG statement supporting Gay Marriage, and then saying he wants to leave it to the states? Yeah, Obama won't do nuttin' for this cause. He may come out (no pun intended) and say weed is cool, that he smoked it once in a while, but he'll end his statement with how he isn't gonna do sh*t about it.

[hank moon]

I shared this idea with my mom who started flapping her arms around and saying all kinds of nonsense, quoting bogus "studies," and telling me about how thousands of people overdose on Marijuana a year. :roflol: Nice try mom.

Testament to propaganda's effectiveness.

[rockgremlin]

:lol8: Like his BIG statement supporting Gay Marriage, and then saying he wants to leave it to the states? Yeah, Obama won't do nuttin' for this cause. He may come out (no pun intended) and say weed is cool, that he smoked it once in a while, but he'll end his statement with how he isn't gonna do sh*t about it.


Yeah, I guess option 3 is remain aloof, and let the situation play out on it's own. It could be that the Feds are watching this situation closely to see how it pans out in CO and WA. If things pan out for the best and people remain civil about it, its possible that decriminalization is not too far off. IMO if weed were treated with similar laws as alcohol and properly enforced it shouldn't be a big deal.



Testament to propaganda's effectiveness.


No Sh*t!!

[Deathcricket]

Obama has stated he smoked pot and snorted cocaine back in the days. But yeah he wont do jack. I'm happy to see this law pass. Woot!

[powderglut]

(b) POSSESSING, GROWING, PROCESSING, OR TRANSPORTING NO MORE THAN SIX MARIJUANA PLANTS, WITH THREE OR FEWER BEING MATURE, FLOWERING PLANTS, AND POSSESSION OF THE MARIJUANA PRODUCED BY THE PLANTS ON THE PREMISES WHERE THE PLANTS WERE GROWN, PROVIDED THAT THE GROWING TAKES PLACE IN AN ENCLOSED, LOCKED SPACE, IS NOT CONDUCTED OPENLY OR PUBLICLY, AND IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE FOR SALE.

I guess it's time, to exercise my Colorado voted rights. I just need to find the right seeds. Hmmm, 6 plants. Since I hardly ever smoke it, and it's illegal to sell, what shall I do with it. I guess I will have to give it away to some willing participant over 21. Colorado resident I imagine.
Sheesh!!! What a problem! :lol8:

[rockgremlin]

I guess it's time, to exercise my Colorado voted rights. I just need to find the right seeds. Hmmm, 6 plants. Since I hardly ever smoke it, and it's illegal to sell, what shall I do with it. I guess I will have to give it away to some willing participant over 21. Colorado resident I imagine.
Sheesh!!! What a problem! :lol8:


How are the residents in CO taking this news? Do they hate it/love it/don't care? Just curious. What's the sentiment overall? At my work the popular catch phrase when things go bad is "Guess I'll have to move to Colorado..." :haha:

[Byron]

It's all really fresh (no pun intended) so it's hard to yet gauge "reaction"...Personally, I love ganja...I rarely smoke it because, uh, it was illegal and I don't hang with dedicated heads that always have it. I never bothered to get a "back pain" prescription but I'll readily buy a bag if it's truly as easy as just walking in there and plunking down the cash, without being on a "list".

Does anyone know if they're just selling to anybody now? I'll pay one of the dispensaries a visit this weekend and report.

[powderglut]

How are the residents in CO taking this news? Do they hate it/love it/don't care? Just curious. What's the sentiment overall? At my work the popular catch phrase when things go bad is "Guess I'll have to move to Colorado..." :haha:
Like Byron said, It just appeared in our face. We really don't know what we are going to end up with. The state is supposed to collect a tax from all recreational marijuana to put back into schools. They really haven't figured out whether the existing medical marijuana suppliers will be the retailers, or liquor stores or drugstores.....
The word in our town is, a moratorium on all recreational sales until they have the marketing venue figured out. And then.... the taxing plan. Don't expect anything to happen for at least 6 months.
The only legit way (for now) is to grow your own 6 plants for personal use.

[LOAH]

I applaud the People of Colorado for pressing their cause and getting it on the ballot. Bravo!

It's a "pipe dream" here in Utah, for now, but it gives me hope. Congratulations, you non-criminal Cheeto munchers.:cool2::nod::cool2::nod::cool2::nod:

[rockgremlin]

I applaud the People of Colorado for pressing their cause and getting it on the ballot.


Yes! I only hope the Feds won't step in and file a lawsuit in an attempt to override state law. Is that even possible/feasible? Where's Scott Card...?

[rockgremlin]

Does anyone know if they're just selling to anybody now? I'll pay one of the dispensaries a visit this weekend and report.


Can't wait for your weed scavenger hunt TR next week. :haha:

[live2ride]

I would just grow some plants cause I think they look sweet, just the ones that don't produce buds, I have always been intrigued by the look of the plant.

[rockgremlin]

I would just grow some plants cause I think they look sweet, just the ones that don't produce buds, I have always been intrigued by the look of the plant.

Isn't that hemp?

[Scott Card]

Yes! I only hope the Feds won't step in and file a lawsuit in an attempt to override state law. Is that even possible/feasible? Where's @Scott Card (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=181) ...?The answer is yes. They could arrest you on federal charges. BTW, much more serious than state charges.

[Iceaxe]

Even in CO, unless you are going to smoke or sale I'd stay far away from pot. Otherwise you are just asking for trouble unless the Feds jump on board.

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[IntrepidXJ]

How are the residents in CO taking this news? Do they hate it/love it/don't care?

Indifferent.

[Sombeech]

I think the trip reports on bogley are about to become stranger

[rockgremlin]

The answer is yes. They could arrest you on federal charges. BTW, much more serious than state charges.


Well yes I knew this already. My question was if the Feds can step in and file a lawsuit in an attempt to override state law. If that's a common occurrence.

[rockgremlin]

I think the trip reports on bogley are about to become stranger


Best post in this thread so far. :roflol:

[Scott Card]

Well yes I knew this already. My question was if the Feds can step in and file a lawsuit in an attempt to override state law. If that's a common occurrence.
They don't have to step in. It is not a matter of overriding state law. The jurisdictions (federal and state) are different and the laws are two sets of laws. Think of a ven diagram with one really large circle and a bunch of little circles inside the big circle. The Federal Government (and the federal marijuana law) is the really big circle. The states are all the little circles inside the big circle. States do what they want but if there is federal law dealing with the same issue as a state law, Federal law generally trumps any state law unless deemed unconstitutional. So in this case, looking at Utah, the fed and/OR the state can prosecute for marijuana. In Colorado, even though the state chooses not to prosecute, the feds still can. I hope that answers the question.

[Iceaxe]

Yeah.... here in Utahahaha you have to buy your weed from the Mexican drug cartels like god intended.

:lol8:

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[powderglut]

It seems to me, for the casual user:toker:, (In Colorado or Washington that is....) would be... to get you 6 grow pots, some potting soil, and some top notch seeds (:ne_nau: I ain't telling from where) and then grow your own.
I can't imagine the feds will be targeting this scenario.Pretty small potatoes. :peepwall: It should be interesting who gets to sell and market this new (so called) legal product.

[Byron]

Can't wait for your weed scavenger hunt TR next week. :haha:OK, here's the deal...they are waiting to see how it all shakes out with the Feds, then the state gov. has to set the whole thing up. Two sources (dispensaries) tell me it won't go into effect until 2014. "We're not like a liquor store yet", they say. Can't score that easy just yet.

[rockgremlin]

OK, here's the deal...they are waiting to see how it all shakes out with the Feds, then the state gov. has to set the whole thing up. Two sources (dispensaries) tell me it won't go into effect until 2014. "We're not like a liquor store yet", they say. Can't score that easy just yet.


But I'm betting this isn't stopping the the average CO resident from growing his/her own plants right now. You give the masses an inch, and they're not gonna wait until 2014 to take the mile.

Ice nailed it on the head -- by keeping weed illegal the only thing the Feds are doing is indirectly promoting and maintaining the sale and distribution of Mexican/Canadian pot. But it's no surprise - we can't actually expect the Federal Gov't to do anything intelligent.

[Sombeech]

OK so how does the law abiding citizen begin to grow 6 plants without illegally obtaining seeds from somebody else?

[Iceaxe]

OK so how does the law abiding citizen begin to grow 6 plants without illegally obtaining seeds from somebody else?

The true law abiding citizen doesn't.... because you are still breaking federal law. And I believe it was mentioned elsewhere, but the Federal punishment is a serious matter if they decide to nail you. I'm and easy going guy so I say why take a chance?

If you want to know more....

Federal Marijuana Law (http://safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=2638)

[powderglut]

Something tells me the feds aren't likely to bother with someone growing six plants, when they could nail a dispensary distributing much larger quantities. They don't approve of medical marijuana either, and they haven't busted any of the Colo shops up to this point. I think they're taking a wait and see attitude.

[Sombeech]

You can even grow 99 plants here in Utah without breaking Federal Law.

[rockgremlin]

OK so how does the law abiding citizen begin to grow 6 plants without illegally obtaining seeds from somebody else?

It's in the regs again. See part c. Transfer of one ounce of pot to a person 21 or older is OK. The seeds may be found in the buds. At any rate I would assume if transfer of buds to another is ok, that transfer of seeds is ok too.


(3) Personal use of marijuana. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, THE FOLLOWING ACTS ARE NOT UNLAWFUL AND SHALL NOT BE AN OFFENSE UNDER COLORADO LAW OR THE LAW OF ANY LOCALITY WITHIN COLORADO OR BE A BASIS FOR SEIZURE OR FORFEITURE OF ASSETS UNDER COLORADO LAW FOR PERSONS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER:
(a) POSSESSING, USING, DISPLAYING, PURCHASING, OR TRANSPORTING MARIJUANA ACCESSORIES OR ONE OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA.
(b) POSSESSING, GROWING, PROCESSING, OR TRANSPORTING NO MORE THAN SIX MARIJUANA PLANTS, WITH THREE OR FEWER BEING MATURE, FLOWERING PLANTS, AND POSSESSION OF THE MARIJUANA PRODUCED BY THE PLANTS ON THE PREMISES WHERE THE PLANTS WERE GROWN, PROVIDED THAT THE GROWING TAKES PLACE IN AN ENCLOSED, LOCKED SPACE, IS NOT CONDUCTED OPENLY OR PUBLICLY, AND IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE FOR SALE.
(c) TRANSFER OF ONE OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA WITHOUT REMUNERATION TO A PERSON WHO IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
(d) CONSUMPTION OF MARIJUANA, PROVIDED THAT NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL PERMIT CONSUMPTION THAT IS CONDUCTED OPENLY AND PUBLICLY OR IN A MANNER THAT ENDANGERS OTHERS.
(e) ASSISTING ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER IN ANY OF THE ACTS DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPHS (a) THROUGH (d) OF THIS SUBSECTION.

[rockgremlin]

Federal Marijuana Law (http://safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=2638)


A quote from the Federal Marijuana law:

"Under federal law, marijuana is treated like every other controlled substance, such as cocaine and heroin. The federal government places every controlled substance in a schedule, in principle according to its relative potential for abuse and medicinal value. Under the CSA, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug, which means that the federal government views marijuana as highly addictive and having no medical value."

^^^This is horse shit. If Marijuana were truly that addictive then all of the rehab centers in this country would be overrun -- and Obama and Clinton would be in there doing the 12 steps, having admitted to smoking pot. Highly addictive drugs are Meth, Coke and Heroin...but not pot.

[Scott P]

I only hope the Feds won't step in and file a lawsuit in an attempt to override state law.

There's really nothing to override. Basically the State Law just says that you won't be prosecuted under state law, but still affirms that it is illegal under Federal law. It doesn't try to override Federal law, in fact they have been quite clear that it is still against Federal law.

In otherwords, we the state of Colorado won't prosecute, but if the Feds do, you are on your own. We'll collect the taxes on your sales too.

[rockgremlin]

I sense an impending shitstorm. The Feds now have 2 states worth of citizens to round up and throw in jail. Not including the other 15 states that have legalized medical marijuana.

[Riseforms]

I'm curious to see how employers in those states are going to react. And what about traffic stops of suspected users...that crap stays in your system for a long time...I think. Too many what ifs for me.

[rockgremlin]

I'm curious to see how employers in those states are going to react. And what about traffic stops of suspected users...that crap stays in your system for a long time...I think. Too many what ifs for me.


THC is stored in fat cells, and therefore stays in your system longer than other substances. It typically takes up to one month (pot free) to bring the THC levels down to almost nil. I am willing to bet that any employer that is involved in heavy industry (ie Mining, Construction, Transportation, etc) will fire any employee caught with THC in their urine. It kinda needs to be that way. So good for accountants and secretaries, etc, but bad for laborers, construction workers, etc.

[Riseforms]

Just what I need, my accountant blazing it up before prepping my quarterlies. :lol8: Well, if I was in Colorado anyway.

[oldno7]

A quote from the Federal Marijuana law:

"Under federal law, marijuana is treated like every other controlled substance, such as cocaine and heroin. The federal government places every controlled substance in a schedule, in principle according to its relative potential for abuse and medicinal value. Under the CSA, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug, which means that the federal government views marijuana as highly addictive and having no medical value."

^^^This is horse shit. .

Then quit:haha:

[rockgremlin]

Then quit:haha:

Can't quit somethin you haven't started. :fitz:

[Eric Holden]

Drugs are bad, and the feds will arrest you.... now where did I set that beer? :cheers:

[Iceaxe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jB7RBGVGk

[rockgremlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jB7RBGVGk

Propaganda + ignorance = public policy

Should replace the word "Reefer" with "The Media"

[Byron]

Gee, seems like a lot of you folks really don't dig the ganja...personally, I can't wait to buy a bag of sticky, sweet, stinky, juicy buds. The sooner they get this ironed out, and the sooner I can indulge, the better.

I've smoked enough pot in my lifetime to choke a goat. I enjoy it immensely, but never even came close to being addicted...take it or leave it, really. I've never been the wake and bake type. However, I'm certainly aware that it can be addictive for SOME people...I've known guys that would drive 300 miles at 3o'clock in the morning to get more if they ran out. Sucks to be them, I say...that's the Libertarian part of me coming out.

[Iceaxe]

I really don't care one way or the other about weed. I see it about like alcohol and believe it should controlled and sold similar to booze.

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[rockgremlin]

Gee, seems like a lot of you folks really don't dig the ganja...personally, I can't wait to buy a bag of sticky, sweet, stinky, juicy buds. The sooner they get this ironed out, and the sooner I can indulge, the better.

I've smoked enough pot in my lifetime to choke a goat. I enjoy it immensely, but never even came close to being addicted...take it or leave it, really. I've never been the wake and bake type. However, I'm certainly aware that it can be addictive for SOME people...I've known guys that would drive 300 miles at 3o'clock in the morning to get more if they ran out. Sucks to be them, I say...that's the Libertarian part of me coming out.


Brutha you nailed it on the head. I've spoken with a $hit-ton of people about this topic - some squeaky clean Mormons, some are sometime drug users (weed, shrooms, X), and some hard-core junkies (meth, heroin). All of the folks familiar with drugs say the same thing: Pot is small potatoes - it's like smoking cigarettes for them. I ask how they got started? From sneaking beer from corner marts and bumming cigs from friends who stole them from their parent's coat pocket/purse. From there they went to shrooms, X, and cough medicine. Pot was NOT what got them started doing drugs.

The folks most uptight about pot are mostly ignorant about the issue - lumping all drugs into one category: BAD. They grasp at straws to justify their stance - like my mom claiming that "thousands of people overdose on Marijuana every year." :lol8:

I agree with Ice - I believe pot should be taxed and regulated like alcohol. This phony "war on drugs" is a scam.

[accadacca]

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[powderglut]

http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/2012/nov/14/routt-county-da-make-decision-pending-pot-cases/
Boulder has also decided to drop any cases with less than an ounce and over 21.
It's a new world!

[rockgremlin]

http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/2012/nov/14/routt-county-da-make-decision-pending-pot-cases/
Boulder has also decided to drop any cases with less than an ounce and over 21.
It's a new world!

:2thumbs:Democracy works!! :2thumbs: Sixth century Chinese philosopher velly wise.

I'll say it again....the Feds will now be handcuffed into dropping the ridiculous notion that Marijuana is something more than what it is....an herb. There's no way in hell the DEA can round up and prosecute citizens in two entire states - not to mention the citizens in the rest of the 48 states who already have sometime-smokers who smoke "illegally."

Given these circumstances, Canada will probably consider following suit since Ontario has seriously considered doing the same (Toronto Hempfest is a pretty big deal). I'm also willing to bet that California will legalize on their next election. They're probably feeling left out, being the first of the lower 48 to legalize for medical purposes.

[rockgremlin]

Brian Griffin was also a very wise philosopher. From his rally in Quahog:

"No more oppression! We as American adults with free will have the right to use Marijuana if we choose to! Enough government profiteering under the guise of morality! Enough with this phony war on drugs!"

http://www.noob.us/humor/family-guy-everything-is-better-with-a-bag-of-weed/ -- Would've used youtube, but Fox has yanked all Family Guy clips on youtube due to "copyright infringements." :roll:

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

2 Colo. students arrested for serving pot brownies

BOULDER, Colo.Two University of Colorado students accused of providing marijuana-laced brownies to unsuspecting classmates and a professor have been arrested and face several felony charges.

The Daily Camera reports 21-year-old Thomas Ricardo Cunningham and 19-year-old Mary Elizabeth Essa were arrested Saturday on suspicion of second-degree assault and inducing the consumption of controlled substances by fraudulent means, along with two conspiracy counts.

Colo. marijuana legalization caught between federal and state law $lazy(window.GeckoVideoPlayer, CBSi.lazy.videoPlayer, function(){ loadGeckoVideoPlayer({ parentElement: 'universalVideoid50134742', flashVars:{ autoplay: 'false', adTargetType: 'Page', adPreroll: 'true', contentType: 'id', contentValue: '50134742', playlistDisplay: 'over', interactiveConsole: 'none' } },'blogSmall'); }); CU Police spokesman Ryan Huff says officers were called Friday morning after a history professor complained of dizziness and losing consciousness. The professor, who was not identified, was hospitalized. Two students in the class who ate the brownies also were hospitalized and five others were sickened.

CBS affiliate KCNC in Denver reports the instructor and the students have all recovered.

Police say Cunningham and Essa baked the brownies and brought them to class as part of a "bring food day."

"Anybody who thinks this is cute, anybody who thinks that this was funny is going to face pretty severe sanctions, both criminally and potentially within the student conduct process," CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard said, according to KCNC.

http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57558133&feed_id=1&videofeed=null

[powderglut]

:nono:Bad Children!:nono:

Please pass the Brownies. Doh!:facepalm1:

[rockgremlin]

2 Colo. students arrested for serving pot brownies

BOULDER, Colo.Two University of Colorado students accused of providing marijuana-laced brownies to unsuspecting classmates and a professor have been arrested and face several felony charges.

The Daily Camera reports 21-year-old Thomas Ricardo Cunningham and 19-year-old Mary Elizabeth Essa were arrested Saturday on suspicion of second-degree assault and inducing the consumption of controlled substances by fraudulent means, along with two conspiracy counts.

Colo. marijuana legalization caught between federal and state law $lazy(window.GeckoVideoPlayer, CBSi.lazy.videoPlayer, function(){ loadGeckoVideoPlayer({ parentElement: 'universalVideoid50134742', flashVars:{ autoplay: 'false', adTargetType: 'Page', adPreroll: 'true', contentType: 'id', contentValue: '50134742', playlistDisplay: 'over', interactiveConsole: 'none' } },'blogSmall'); }); CU Police spokesman Ryan Huff says officers were called Friday morning after a history professor complained of dizziness and losing consciousness. The professor, who was not identified, was hospitalized. Two students in the class who ate the brownies also were hospitalized and five others were sickened.

CBS affiliate KCNC in Denver reports the instructor and the students have all recovered.

Police say Cunningham and Essa baked the brownies and brought them to class as part of a "bring food day."

"Anybody who thinks this is cute, anybody who thinks that this was funny is going to face pretty severe sanctions, both criminally and potentially within the student conduct process," CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard said, according to KCNC.

http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57558133&feed_id=1&videofeed=null


Oh brother. Way to abuse your newfound freedom jackasses! :roll: Any more of that and the feds will swoop in and then the party's over.

[Sombeech]

CBS affiliate KCNC in Denver reports the instructor and the students have all recovered.

Well that sucks :lol8:

[jfeiro]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=23575763&nid=157&title=colorado-gets-members-only-clubs-for-legal-pot-use&s_cid=queue-14

[rockgremlin]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=23575763&nid=157&title=colorado-gets-members-only-clubs-for-legal-pot-use&s_cid=queue-14


Comments are priceless. It's informed vs. ignorant, with the ignorant looking foolish. But then again, it is the KSL message board so you can't expect much common sense there.

[Byron]

I like it!!!! In fact, as soon as I have the time, I'll go pay that place a visit. It's always been fun to socialize while partaking of the ganja. Everyone, and I mean everyone in that place is going to be sociable and in a good mood....sign me up!!!
I'll report after my visit...I'll have to check if they'll let me take a camera in there.

I think it's great that the potheads are forcing this as fast as they can...any nice poke in the eye to the "government morality" and their archaic laws is right on with me.

[rockgremlin]

I like it!!!! In fact, as soon as I have the time, I'll go pay that place a visit. It's always been fun to socialize while partaking of the ganja. Everyone, and I mean everyone in that place is going to be sociable and in a good mood....sign me up!!!
I'll report after my visit...I'll have to check if they'll let me take a camera in there.

I think it's great that the potheads are forcing this as fast as they can...any nice poke in the eye to the "government morality" and their archaic laws is right on with me.


You and I should hook up and do it together. And then post a TR about it. :roflol:


Only thing is -- you gotta bring your own pot...it's not sold there, and I think passing around samples is prohibited. :nono:

[Byron]

Hmmm...you can't share the herb with your fellow revelers? I'm not too sure about that, why would they stop folks from passing it around? Nah, can't be...I'll call first and ask. That would kinda suck because until I can legally buy it, I don't have any weed! I was just going to walk in, sit down and use my natural charm to schmooze a few hits. Perhaps make some contacts for "in the meantime", ya know?

I'm pretty busy for the next two weeks or so, but I'll report after I scope it out.

[rockgremlin]

Hmmm...you can't share the herb with your fellow revelers? I'm not too sure about that, why would they stop folks from passing it around? Nah, can't be...I'll call first and ask. That would kinda suck because until I can legally buy it, I don't have any weed! I was just going to walk in, sit down and use my natural charm to schmooze a few hits. Perhaps make some contacts for "in the meantime", ya know?

I'm pretty busy for the next two weeks or so, but I'll report after I scope it out.


What charm? You mean the one you wear around yer neck? :haha:

And I'm not sure you can call and ask about their policies cuz their parties are held at different locales. There isn't one "set" establishment.

I'm really starting to love my neighbor to the east. I sincerely hope everybody who used to vacation at Park City and Alta decide to go to Colorado instead because of their new pot laws. :fitz:

[accadacca]

Warning...language.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znpt_Umixcs&sns=em

[rockgremlin]

Signed the petition. Everyone who doesn't like to live under government sponsored corruption I encourage to do the same.

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