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Sombeech
04-25-2012, 09:53 AM
I've been giving this a lot of thought lately. My wife is an avid runner, running several times a week and she also participates in the local races and events.

I on the other hand am a weekly Mountain Biker. I ride the local stuff, a few local races, and also like to travel around riding trails out of town.

So the difference is when my wife goes running, general reaction from her family and friends, and even all of MY family is - "You go girl, good job!"

When I go biking, I'm "leaving the wife at home and goofing off with friends". I go once a week (maybe) and she runs several times a week.

When I call my critics on this, they'll say "Running is different. It's exercise."

Excuse me?

What am I missing? Even when I go to the gym, which by all means is not goofing off, and I don't go with friends.... I'm not elevated to the same class as runners.

I'm not asking for more respect nor begging for more validity for biking, I'm just trying to understand why the difference in perception. Is it because of the pain?

Running is much more of a noble cause than Mountain Biking, why is that?

TreeHugger
04-25-2012, 11:47 AM
Maybe because so many people view running as such drudgery that no one in their right mind does it for anything other than a "workout" whereas mountain biking is SO MUCH FUN and it's often done with others (social) that it is viewed as recreation and therefore not "necessary."
Good question! Horrible double standard! :-)

Deathcricket
04-25-2012, 12:26 PM
Well Mtn Biking is more fun than running. When was the last time you saw a trip report for someone running up a hill? :lol8:

It also could be gender differences you are experiencing. Girls tend to stick together and be more sympathetic to imaginary needs. Just look at Facebook, chicks bitch about weird random stuff all day. You kinda expect it, and if guys do it you simply unfriend them because they are obviously wuss's

trackrunner
04-25-2012, 12:36 PM
beech you mtn biking this weekend? you go girl! :afro:

tallsteve
04-25-2012, 12:43 PM
My experience has been that those who have never done it before don't understand what's involved. They picture mtn. biking as leisurely coasting downhill on a gentle dirt trail as it lazily meanders through a flower/sunshine dappled meadow, all the while some ethereal beings are singing Kumbaya off in the distance. They just plain don't understand the physicality required and that we have to actually PEDAL UPHILL before we get to Kumbaya Meadow. I can't tell you the number of times I've had family/friends/acquaintances/co-workers ask me to take them mtn. biking and, because they are runners and in-shape, they'll be really fast. They're all humbled quickly. The way me and you mtn. bike is hard, grueling, sweaty and aerobically, mentally and physically demanding.

Riseforms
04-25-2012, 01:27 PM
I think it's due to the general superiority of running. :nod:

Really, I don't know. Interesting thoughts though.

DOSS
04-25-2012, 02:13 PM
My experience has been that those who have never done it before don't understand what's involved. They picture mtn. biking as leisurely coasting downhill on a gentle dirt trail as it lazily meanders through a flower/sunshine dappled meadow, all the while some ethereal beings are singing Kumbaya off in the distance. They just plain don't understand the physicality required and that we have to actually PEDAL UPHILL before we get to Kumbaya Meadow. I can't tell you the number of times I've had family/friends/acquaintances/co-workers ask me to take them mtn. biking and, because they are runners and in-shape, they'll be really fast. They're all humbled quickly. The way me and you mtn. bike is hard, grueling, sweaty and aerobically, mentally and physically demanding.


This is so accurate, My wife who runs marathons has finally given into peer pressure from me to start biking, I picked her up a road bike and we have done a couple short stints around town to get her used to the gears etc. Last Saturday she wanted to go for a longer ride all the time telling me how she was going to smoke my butt... needless to say if I didn't have her lead I would pull away like she was standing still (took me about 20 minutes to figure this out and wait for her :facepalm1: ).... Its not all Kumbaya... but those downhills at 45-50 MPH sure are fun.

tallsteve
04-25-2012, 02:19 PM
That being said, the best/fastest mtn. bikers I know, cross train. For me it's yoga all year long, x-country skiing in the winter and fast-paced hiking in the summer. If it weren't for a bad back and knees, I would also run or play b-ball.

jman
04-25-2012, 02:39 PM
It also could be gender differences you are experiencing. Girls tend to stick together and be more sympathetic to imaginary needs. Just look at Facebook, chicks bitch about weird random stuff all day. You kinda expect it, and if guys do it you simply unfriend them.

This made me LOL at work... Nice job haha

REDFOX
04-25-2012, 04:59 PM
There is a lot wisdom being posted hear. I agree completely with everything posted on this. My wife says that I just look for excuses to spend money on expensive hobbies and trips. My reponse of it just being my way of exercising doesn't work any more since I have been doing physical work everyday for my job. I used to do long distance cross country running, but I became bored with it and I find more satisfaction watching mountain bike videos and trip reports.:ride:

deagol
04-25-2012, 07:19 PM
I used to run in high school and hate it now. I've been MT biking since 1989 and was talked into running with my now wife a few years ago. I did well cardiovascularly on the uphill sections and she was pissed at me, saying "how come you can run faster than I do and you never run?"..
Biking was the obvious answer. Running downhill, however, is my weak spot- knees won't hold out long for me.

It does seem like a dumb double-standard, though...

ahansen60
04-26-2012, 06:13 AM
It's funny you brought this topic up. I never really put much thought into it before, but now that I think about it, you're right. I have ran a marathon and I have done a century bike ride. Whenever I tell anybody about either accomplishment, I always get more attention and approval for the marathon. You would think the 100 miles vs the 26.2 would automatically be more impressive, but running seems to have more of a reputation. Whatever anyone thinks, I can say that I felt just as dead and in pain at the end of the century ride as I did at the end of the marathon. Lol.

Sombeech
04-26-2012, 06:43 AM
Don't get me started on Ragnar. Respect to those runners, my wife does it every year now. But boy do I hear about it nonstop.

bigred72
04-26-2012, 06:47 AM
I have a friend who had never been mountain biking (nor any other physical activity) and would call those who MTB **ssies. He now bikes and has since changed his opinion.

Kent K25
04-26-2012, 10:27 AM
I'm in agreement with the general consensus here...it's just the basic stereotyping.

People see running as exercise and biking as fun. As kids people generally didn't just go out for a fun jog, but they would certainly hop on their bike and play around with their friends in the neighborhood.

Running = Exercise
Biking = Fun

Some people just can't get past that stereotype.

Sombeech
04-28-2012, 12:38 PM
Posted just minutes ago:

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bigred72
04-28-2012, 12:49 PM
A friend used to say when people start smiling when they run, that is when he will start running.

Sombeech
04-29-2012, 07:25 PM
Maybe it's just a girl thing?

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UTJetdog
05-16-2012, 10:30 AM
I don't run because it seems like when bigger people like me (6'-3") who run and get to my age (49) are all looking for hip and knee replacements. One of my riding buddies is a physical therapist, and he reminds me that if you come in with knee problems one of the first things they will do is put you on a bike. I've been riding for a few years now logging 5-6k miles per year. My knees haven't been this good since high school. I'm a decent rider but I've ridden with a couple of 70 somethings this year that can kick my butt on big climbs, and I find that very inspiring.

Beech, maybe you'll get more respect on a road bike because you can roll in at home all sweaty and stinky. :haha: Good luck with that seriously rediculous double standard.

chromehead58
05-17-2012, 08:17 AM
I have to laugh as I think it has to do more with husband wife than running biking....and after 36 years I have yet to figure it out...however the ragnar thing. So I have had both my shoulders replaced this winter, so I am not released to ride my bike yet, but I can run. So I get up every day and run somewhere between three to five miles...do I get a Ragnar sticker? Is that not what that thing is all about?
Running is for those that are afraid to bike!

ststephen
05-17-2012, 12:53 PM
I can't say I have the same issue. I do both (MTB and run). Our son is on a MTB racing team at his high school but won't run unless being chased by a wild animal. My wife is an avid marathoner but is still trying to get comfortable doing easy single tracks and probably will never be very excited about MTBing. But she is supportive of my time biking and doesn't view it as less valued than her runs. There is a bit of a difference in that runs tend to be training things rather than "outings". That's a subtle and subjective distinction though.

Beech - I think you need to keep explaining to your wife that she is just plain wrong on this point. You know how easy it is do that, right? :lol8:

BTW - I'm off to the MTB state championship this weekend for my son and his team!

Kokopelli
05-18-2012, 05:30 AM
Well go for a 2 hour MTB ride then go for a 2 hour run. After you’re done I think you'll be able to decide which one deserves the bigger pat on the back for be able to complete. Like has been mentioned before, biking is a lot more fun than running, so it's probably viewed more as recreation, where as running is viewed as an "accomplishment".

Sombeech
05-18-2012, 06:26 AM
OK, I think I'm getting it. The more it sucks, the more likes it gets? :duhz:

jamesdak
05-19-2012, 06:04 AM
Well, as someone who used to be a runner I'll say biking is a harder, more technical sport any day of the week. And it's much easier on the body. I honestly don't notice being slighted though. As a runner I did mostly distance stuff, 1/2 and full marathons, Crazy Bob's, etc. As a biker I do centuries, etc. But I also do at least 20 miles and usually more every day. My friends actually seem impressed by all the miles I put it.

But I will say that both knees are trashed and surgically repaired, as well as a messed up left foot and lower back. All of this means running is a non-option yet I can still bike daily with little to no pain. In my mind cycling is clearly the superior sport. :nod: My legs and lungs are also in better shape now then they have ever been even though I am getting up there in years.

jamesdak
05-19-2012, 06:10 AM
Well go for a 2 hour MTB ride then go for a 2 hour run. After you’re done I think you'll be able to decide which one deserves the bigger pat on the back for be able to complete. Like has been mentioned before, biking is a lot more fun than running, so it's probably viewed more as recreation, where as running is viewed as an "accomplishment".


You know I have to say I just can't agree with this. It really comes down to how committed you are and how hard you work out. I know for me I get a lot more instances of "runner's high" riding than I ever did as a runner because I push myself harder physically. I am able to really tax the muscles and cardio system in way I never could running because the running always took such a heavy negative physical toil in other ways.

Sombeech
05-23-2012, 07:44 PM
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blueeyes
05-23-2012, 09:08 PM
So are ya gonna buy her flowers now. :lol8: You are cracking me up with this thread.

Sombeech
05-23-2012, 11:12 PM
So are ya gonna buy her flowers now. :lol8: You are cracking me up with this thread.

Yeah as soon as she lets me back in the house

UTJetdog
05-24-2012, 09:42 AM
The wise man always has a nice dog house...

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Garbanzo
05-24-2012, 08:35 PM
Gagnar!! See any good running videos lately? Marathon Intense? Please. I think runners are physical animals and deserve a lot of respect, but Mtn Bikers have a lot more to deal with. As far as getting respect, forget it. Husbands goof off and don't help much. And they have overpriced useless hobbies. But we kick ass!!! or at least we think so. "hey honey, where did I put my teeth?"

blueeyes
05-29-2012, 09:23 PM
For the record this is one girl that would never argue with a guy that wanted to mountain bike. :lol8:

REDFOX
05-29-2012, 09:51 PM
For the record this is one girl that would never argue with a guy that wanted to mountain bike. :lol8:

I believe you, and I think that you should start a club recruiting others.

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Sombeech
10-01-2012, 09:26 AM
More from the running double standard this weekend.

"The Full Monte" marathon up in Ogden Valley was ran this weekend. My wife did the half.

I stayed home to change out the alternator on the car so she could have a vehicle to drive to work this week. I was PLANNING on taking the kids up there to wait at the finish line for her but as she was pulling the car out of the garage, that's when it died.

I actually got crap from people asking why I didn't go support my wife.

jamesdak
10-02-2012, 06:48 PM
More from the running double standard this weekend.

"The Full Monte" marathon up in Ogden Valley was ran this weekend. My wife did the half.

I stayed home to change out the alternator on the car so she could have a vehicle to drive to work this week. I was PLANNING on taking the kids up there to wait at the finish line for her but as she was pulling the car out of the garage, that's when it died.

I actually got crap from people asking why I didn't go support my wife.

That is so wrong, screw what they think! Oh and all those dang runners got in the way of my cycling Saturday, LOL!!