Cherry Canyon

[tcott]

Went down cherry canyon in the virgin river gorge the other day. Crossing the river to get there was no problem, about calf deep. Lots of raps, a fairly short approach, decent canyon for a change of scenery.

[jman]

Cool! Thanks for sharing.

[ratagonia]

Sweet! :moses:

[ghawk]

Awesome!

[dude9478]

Very nice!

[Sandstone Addiction]

The canyoneering shots were awesome, but I loved that fossil shot--very cool, thanks. :2thumbs:

[peakbaggers]

Another interesting & dramatic one. That shot with the fossil, is that in limestone of some kind there?

[ratagonia]

Another interesting & dramatic one. That shot with the fossil, is that in limestone of some kind there?

The VRG is mostly limestone. One reason why knotchocks work well there.

Tom :moses:

[Audilard]

:2thumbs: Put this on my "to do" list.

[kd7kmp]

That is too cool...especially the ammonoid fossil.

[tcott]

Just for fun if you want to see that fossil, I was using the panasonic camera that gives you gps coordinates when you take pictures and it said that it is at 36

[Brian in SLC]

The VRG is mostly limestone. One reason why knotchocks work well there.

Yeah, and bolts work even better!

Ha ha...

Does smell like the ocean when you drill into the rock, or, bust/trundle. Strong smell. Fair amount of fossils down that way. The rock tends to be pretty hard, which, is also why that limestone belt, which goes from Sun City, the Grail, the VRG and all the way up through the Utah Hills has a huge amount of sport climbing routes...

[bioject]

Is this a safe canyon to bring newbies who have never done a canyon before?

[gingerproblems]

Looks like a sweet canyon. :popcorn:

Is it the drainage west of the GPS coordinate? What's the longest rappel length? (Fishing for some beta since I can't find any.)

[bioject]

Looks like a sweet canyon. :popcorn:

Is it the drainage west of the GPS coordinate? What's the longest rappel length? (Fishing for some beta since I can't find any.)

Ginger you can find some beta for Cherry Canyon here (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233191860087275.55716.179244358815359&type=3).

I am interested to know if this is a good canyon to take new people who haven't done a canyon before.

[oldno7]

Would be a good introduction canyon.........

[bioject]

Would be a good introduction canyon.........

... and? lol

[oldno7]

... and? lol

A steep hike in......

[bioject]

oldno7 just spill the beans already! :D

[oldno7]

oldno7 just spill the beans already! :D

Tell me what "beans" you require...............

[oldno7]

Do you need parking and river crossing, "beans"?

[oldno7]

Drop in Here-ish bean

[oldno7]

And DON"T follow Andy, bean

There--You know everything I know...

[tyro]

"And DON"T follow Andy, bean

There--You know everything I know..."


I second that!! Although, after three trips through, I've got it down pretty well now.

I've heard from a couple of sources (very recently) that the bolts/anchors in Cherry Canyon have been either pulled or beaten down to an unusable condition. Why, I don't know, but anyone planning on doing this canyon should verify anchor condition or have good anchor building skills and gear.

[2065toyota]

I've heard the same thing that the bolts are all gone, and not done very well either

[bioject]

And DON"T follow Andy, bean

There--You know everything I know...

Thanks for the approach picture. Canyon looks pretty straight forward.

[bioject]

I have never seen an ACA rating posted for this canyon. What would people say is the rating? 3AIII?

[MrAdam]

I'd call it a 3AII. We did it in about 6 hours and that included hiking up the wrong drainage from the river!

And yep, most of the bolts have been pulled/chopped in the canyon, but most of them were not needed anyways.

[LVRAY]

None of the bolts were needed. People were doing this canyon just fine without them. As someone else stated in a different thread - some people just insist dumbing a canyon down to their skill level by bolting.

[ratagonia]

None of the bolts were needed. People were doing this canyon just fine without them. As someone else stated in a different thread - some people just insist dumbing a canyon down to their skill level by bolting.

And it is hard to answer the question "Is this a good canyon for me to bring beginners to?".

Kinda like: if you have to ask, then the answer is NO!

It's a fairly straightforward canyon if you know what you are doing. But if you don't, then it would be very dangerous. (ie, pretty much the same statement can be made for most canyons)

Tom :moses:

[2065toyota]

None of the bolts were needed. People were doing this canyon just fine without them. As someone else stated in a different thread - some people just insist dumbing a canyon down to their skill level by bolting.

as also stated in another thread. If you are "too smart" for the canyon and it has bolts then don't use them. I havnt seen them but was told whoever removed them did a terrible job and the canyons looks much worse now than when the bolts were there.

[LVRAY]

That doesn't address the issue as to why someone would bolt the canyon in the first place. If you don't have the skill set to do the canyon without bolting - go else where. There are plenty of canyons that are already bolted and are better suited for those who require them.






as also stated in another thread. If you are "too smart" for the canyon and it has bolts then don't use them. I havnt seen them but was told whoever removed them did a terrible job and the canyons looks much worse now than when the bolts were there.

[Summit2Sea]

That doesn't address the issue as to why someone would bolt the canyon in the first place. If you don't have the skill set to do the canyon without bolting - go else where. There are plenty of canyons that are already bolted and are better suited for those who require them.

:2thumbs:

[ratagonia]

as also stated in another thread. If you are "too smart" for the canyon and it has bolts then don't use them. I havnt seen them but was told whoever removed them did a terrible job and the canyons looks much worse now than when the bolts were there.

It is kind of like any other form of vandalism or tagging. Elimination of the vandalism or tag right away has proven effective at diminishing the anti-social behaviour.

Tom

[2065toyota]

My bad on not relaying what I meant. If somebody vandalized a white wall with purple paint would the fix be to cross it out with black. If they are to be removed just do it right so that it doesn't look worse than when the bolts were there.

[ratagonia]

My bad on not relaying what I meant. If somebody vandalized a white wall with purple paint would the fix be to cross it out with black. If they are to be removed just do it right so that it doesn't look worse than when the bolts were there.

I concur, Dr. Toyota!

Tom

[rickinlo]

I mentioned this on the facebook page where I posted the beta. We went in to pull the bolts, but didn't quite realize how ridiculous the studs were. We pulled and patched the first half of the canyon, and by halfway down all of our tools were broken. I'm trying to get back in soon to finish the job. I've been pretty busy with school stuff.

Anyway, sorry for the one unsightly half finished bolt. I'll get in there soon and get rid of it.

[Bo_Beck]

I mentioned this on the facebook page where I posted the beta. We went in to pull the bolts, but didn't quite realize how ridiculous the studs were. We pulled and patched the first half of the canyon, and by halfway down all of our tools were broken. I'm trying to get back in soon to finish the job. I've been pretty busy with school stuff.

Anyway, sorry for the one unsightly half finished bolt. I'll get in there soon and get rid of it.

Heck! Do you remember in the mid 60's when highway 91 was the access from St. George to LV and the west? If you feel that the bolts aren't needed then you sure as heck don't need I-15. Why not hike from Littlefield if you are the total environmental purist that wants things your way? Even before its opening, it was promoted as the most scenic highway in the state; a 1988 article in Arizona Highways said that the project "enhanced rather than distracted from Nature's handiwork". The Virgin River was rechanneled 12 times in what was the most expensive rural freeway in the country, at the price of approximately $10 million per mile ($49 million in 2007 dollars).[13][18]

[rickinlo]

If I could legally go about de-interstating the virgin river gorge I might give it a shot. It'd take a bit more time and equipment though. Also, the patching job would be kind of a nightmare.

Personally though, I'd start with the dams.

[Bo_Beck]

If I could legally go about de-interstating the virgin river gorge I might give it a shot. It'd take a bit more time and equipment though. Also, the patching job would be kind of a nightmare.

Personally though, I'd start with the dams.

Bravo!:2thumbs:

[Brian in SLC]

I think if those were Kentucky Joe's bolts...well...that'd be interesting.

The AZ strip has a ton of bolted sport climbs...fairly well established area for "bolting", at least as far as climbing goes.

How long before someone rebolts this canyon? Chop, bolt, chop, bolt...yee haa!

[rickinlo]

We finished today. No more bolts. :)

[ratagonia]

We finished today. No more bolts. :)

Thanks Rick! :2thumbs:

Tom

[Iceaxe]

Thanks Rick! :2thumbs:

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[LVRAY]

We finished today. No more bolts. :)

:2thumbs: Thank you for your efforts.