"discovery" of Paria/Vermilion Cliffs National Monument

[mattandersao]

SOB! National Geographic has a big piece in this months magazine on the P.V.C.N.M. Open the flood gates!

[IntrepidXJ]

They weren't already opened?

[oldno7]

I'm only amazed that some folks think adding a wilderness/national monument/whatever designation will slow the people impact, where in fact it turns out to be quite the opposite.

20+ years ago, I never saw another soul on the GSENM or Paria.

Since Clinton helped out all the environmental groups with a designation, it has been and will continue to be mayhem and beyond.

Thanks Bill:2thumbs:

What else can we "love" to death?

[mattandersao]

They weren't already opened?

Lol, ya but....

[mattandersao]

As for being designated I have always been torn on that issue. As you said "people impact" has grown dramatically but "people impact" is small compared to the potential impact from the coal, oil, gas, uranium, etc. No?

[Iceaxe]

They weren't already opened?

If you believe that just wait... visitation is a whole different animal once Nat Geo gets a hold of it.

FWIW: the Subway in Zion was pretty much off the general publics radar until it appeared in Nat Geo.

[mattandersao]

If you believe that just wait... visitation is a whole different animal once Nat Geo gets a hold of it.

FWIW: the Subway in Zion was pretty much off the general publics radar until it appeared in Nat Geo.


Fortunately the pictures left much to be desired! I have seen much better pictures of Coyote Buttes North/South, White Pocket, etc on Bogley!

[accadacca]

Is there a video or article of this somewhere?

[mattandersao]

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/02/vermilion-cliffs/barnes-photography?source=email_photo#/09-intaglio-nature-670.jpg

These are some of the pictures. Actually there are some really good ones on the website but the ones they used for the article (at least for Coyote Buttes North/South/White Pocket were about the worst ones on the website.

[Mtnseeker1]

Preserve it?-Feds
Hide it?- Most of us
Sell it? -SUWA for a bargaining chip in the big game. Or special interest funds from National Geographic.

[richyrichg4]

well hopefully they stay out of coyote buttes s. very quite there:mrgreen:

[richyrichg4]

still on a permit only entrance,,40 a day,,last time i was there 60 people at the ranger station for 20 permits,, the online application is a joke.