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Iceaxe
01-04-2012, 05:52 PM
2012 Utah Football Schedule
Aug. 30 (Thursday)
Iceaxe
01-04-2012, 05:56 PM
Ya gotta love it!!! :2thumbs:
October 4th Utah should be hosting the #1 ranked team in the country, and a Heisman front runner, with 10 days to prepare. It should be a barn burner.
I love this PAC 12 deal.
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skiclimb3287
01-04-2012, 06:02 PM
Going to be another fun season! Don't forget though, USC also has 10 days to prepare.
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accadacca
01-04-2012, 08:13 PM
I might ride my moto up to the Oregon State game. :2thumbs:
Iceaxe
01-10-2012, 11:01 AM
In College football the next three weeks are crazy because February 1 is National letter of intent day. Every school is rushing to snag uncommitted players and fill holes in their future roosters.
And just for fun.....
Ridiculously Early 2012 Pac-12 Power Rankings
By Trevor Amicone
1.USC — They are returning the most starters and they were probably the best team in the conference this year. Too bad they cheated.
2.Oregon — They will probably meet the Trojans in the conference title game in 2012 with the winner possibly playing for the national title.
3.Stanford — The Cardinal will drop off a bit, but the main pieces within their scheme will be in place.
4.Utah — The Utes return all of their playmakers offensively and they add one or two, most importantly, bringing back Jordan Wynn. If he stays healthy, there’s conference title game potential.
5.California — The Golden Bears bring back all their important pieces on offense, but they lose a good portion of their defense, which is why they are lower than Utah even after shellacking the Utes in ’11.
6.Arizona State — This team is so hard to read, but they are talented and should be able to improve with Graham at the helm. But it may take more than a year to get the undisciplined Erickson disciples out of Tempe. There will probably be push back in year one for Graham, but I also wouldn’t be shocked to see the Sun Devils in the Pac-12 title game. The Sun Devils are a wildcard in 2012.
7.Washington — It will take a year, maybe two to improve the defense the way new defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox undoubtedly will. If he does by 2013, look out!
8.UCLA — Mora will bring a different voice to the Bruins, but it will take a while to get through to the majority of the team.
9.Oregon State — This will probably be Mike Riley’s last year in Corvallis. He deserved a pass on 2011, but 2012 will be more of a holding cell (purgatory, if you will) for Riley, only with a bad ending.
10.Arizona — I like the Rodriguez hire, but losing Foles and the other major offensive weapons will result in another bad year in Tucson.
11.Washington State — Leach will have an uphill battle after losing so many starters, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see an upset pulled off late in the season by the Cougars, maybe Washington on Nov. 23, Utah on Nov. 3 or UCLA on Nov. 17.
12.Colorado — Cellar dwellers again, the Buffaloes are simply losing too many players to make any real progress in 2012. I like Embree and he should get a little leeway because the previous recruiting was organized so poorly, but this year might be even uglier than last year.
Kent K25
01-13-2012, 09:55 AM
Having USC at home could make for a good year...definitely a tough game, but winnable.
Iceaxe
01-13-2012, 12:49 PM
Anther bright side of the USC game is Wynn might not be hurt yet and Utah relying on a back-up.
FWIW: I think the player the Utes are going to miss the most next year is Shaun Asiata, that dude was the dump truck openning the holes for White to run through. I'm really curious to see where Asiata goes in the NFL draft, a guy like him should do well in the NFL. A super blocking back that can catch passes out of the backfield is kinda rare, and dangerous.
Iceaxe
02-01-2012, 01:03 PM
Utah is kicking ass today when it comes to signing recruits. They picked up some really big names and some major talent, including the number 11 rated QB in the country and a top 10 OL.
The two DB's the utes want bad haven't signed with anyone as of yet.
Utah's O-line looks like it will be strong for at least the next 4 years.
:2thumbs:
trackrunner
02-02-2012, 10:11 AM
Brian Johnson new OC
Brian Johnson new OC
:ne_nau:
Don't know how you give a 24 year old kid this job.... Guess it could be his many years of coaching.....or the amazing quarterbacks that he has developed in those years.....
Think there is a reason they didn't announce until after signing day....
I wish the best for BJ and love the Utes, but this has me scratching my head.
Iceaxe
02-02-2012, 01:57 PM
Brian Johnson new OC
WOW!!
But so far Whitt has done a good job with his coaching staff so I guess we'll see.... I also understand the Utes will be returning to the Spread-Option, and there are really not a lot of coaches that understand that offense as well as BJ. Play calling will probably be his biggest learning curve.
Deuce
02-03-2012, 04:14 PM
WOW!!
But so far Whitt has done a good job with his coaching staff so I guess we'll see.... I also understand the Utes will be returning to the Spread-Option, and there are really not a lot of coaches that understand that offense as well as BJ. Play calling will probably be his biggest learning curve.
Not 100% sure where the thought that Brian Johnson has an inside track on the spread option comes from....:ne_nau: He played it in college and coached the quarterbacks running it for 1 year(maybe 1.5 if you count them using it some last year)...not exactly guru material. It isn't like it is an offense nobody runs or is new.....
It will be interesting to watch him put together a gameplan on Sunday/Monday, implement that during the week & how effective it is come Saturday.
Word is, Roderick is looking at jobs elsewhere(Nevada)....that would hurt, he is a great recruiter & coach.
Iceaxe
02-05-2012, 08:45 AM
I just keep thinking Whit see's something in Brian that he really likes, or he wouldn't have the job. And I think most people will agree Whit has done a pretty good job leading he team.
accadacca
02-05-2012, 08:32 PM
I figured that BJ would be an OC at some point, just not this soon. Of course who knew Chow was going to leave for Hawaii. IMO it would have been better if BJ had some more time under Chow, but it wasn't in the cards. Obviously coach Whitt knows best. We'll see how he does.
I'm torn about changing offenses again. I liked the pro set, but I like the spread too. Just win baby!
Iceaxe
02-06-2012, 08:57 AM
I liked the pro set, but I like the spread too.
Run the offense that best suits your personal, and don't force your personal to adapt to an offense.
One thing I know from watching Chase Hansen, in addition to being the best passer in Utah HS football last year, he might also have been the best running back. I don't know much about the other QB they signed.... if they go with Winn he probably won't be healthy past mid-season, if he makes it that far.
Iceaxe
03-08-2012, 01:54 PM
REVISED SCHEDULE
Utah's football game against Utah State has been moved to a Friday kickoff to accommodate a live broadcast on ESPN2. Kickoff is set for 6 p.m. on Sept. 7. The change means Utah's first Saturday game won't be until it hosts BYU on Sept. 15. The opener on Aug. 30 against Northern Colorado is on a Thursday and the Utes play USC on Thursday, Oct. 4. Kickoff times have yet to be announced for the other games.
2012 Utah Football Schedule
Aug. 30 (Thu.) Northern Colorado*Salt Lake City
Sept. 7 (Fri.) at Utah State*Logan, Utah, 6 p.m.
Sept. 15 BYU*Salt Lake City
Sept. 22 at Arizona State*Tempe, Ariz.
Sept. 29 BYE
Oct. 4 (Thu.) USC*Salt Lake City
Oct. 13 at UCLA*Los Angeles, Calif.
Oct. 20 at Oregon State*Corvallis, Ore.
Oct. 27 California*Salt Lake City
Nov. 3 Washington State*Salt Lake City
Nov. 10 at Washington*Seattle, Wash.
Nov. 17 Arizona*Salt Lake City
Nov. 23 (Fri.) at Colorado*Boulder, Colo.
This is awesome!!! We get the Provo Daily Herald's/Desert-News Pre-season National Title Contender winners at home on Sept 15th!
Of course, they'll be out of it (realistically speaking) by then and shifting the focus of the football game instead to how good the basketball team will be that year....and how good the football team will be in '13.
:roflol:
accadacca
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Getting fired up! :2thumbs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEsOgrr8_cE&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQGPEGz_6I&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf_26RyiF6A&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvtBbsss68M&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyqcBTG4N4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53RkGN2dwI&list=UUOZJeIx***m9-czFb9t59PQ&index=1&feature=plcp
Iceaxe
04-16-2012, 11:25 AM
What are the Utes going to do about an O-line???
Because the one they currently have couldn't stop a herd of grandmothers...
skiclimb3287
04-22-2012, 12:22 PM
Went to the Red and White game yesterday. Really good to get the football fix in the spring. Can't wait for September :nod:
The boys looked pretty good. For the first time in a few years I am happy with the QB situation. Wynn looked like his normal self, except had a better throwing motion...one great pass to start the game and then 3 picks :nono:. That being said,the 3 freshman Chase Hansen, Travis Wilson, and Adam Schulz looked great. Good pocket mobility, good arms, etc. All running backs had some good breaks. This could be a really good season.
Prior to the Red and White game was the alumni flag football game. There was good fun going on on the field, and a lot of poking fun by the announcer.
Afterwards, I scored one of the 250 wrist bands to get autographs. Got a poster covered in signatures! :cool2:
Here's the photos...first time using our new Canon EOS T3i with a 50-250mm lens :stud:
A couple from the Alumni Game
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Brian Johnson getting back in his groove
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Hail Mary to tie the game...launched by none other than BJ!
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Celebrating the catch and escaping with a tie at the buzzer
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On to the Red and White game:
Hays launching one
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Wynn launching one
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Kruger and Langi
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Eric Weddle back for a visit!
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Dres Anderson pulling one in and burning the secondary
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Brian Johnson looking comfortable in his new position
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Tonga with a catch for 6!
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DeVonte Christopher with a catch!
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Chase Hansen on the run getting quite a few yards
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The Utah PAC12 flag flying high
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Travis Wilson launching one
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Can't wait for the season! :2thumbs::utes7:
Iceaxe
04-23-2012, 08:10 PM
I noticed the freshmen QB's were fair game. :mrgreen:
accadacca
05-01-2012, 03:11 PM
Thanks for the pics and update. Very cool! I just renewed my season tickets last night. I'm ready to go! :cool2:
Deuce
07-30-2012, 01:07 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/54590376-89/blechen-utah-safety-utes.html.csp
Blechen suspended the first 3 games of the season....... Ugh......
accadacca
07-30-2012, 02:43 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/54590376-89/blechen-utah-safety-utes.html.csp
Blechen suspended the first 3 games of the season....... Ugh......
Just heard that. Damn! :facepalm1:
Iceaxe
08-02-2012, 04:10 PM
SALT LAKE CITY — Spence Checketts of 1280 The Zone is reporting that Utah safety Brian Blechen's three-game suspension for violating team rules is tied to failed multiple drug tests for marijuana use.
Citing anonymous sources with intimate knowledge of the situation, Checketts is also reporting that two other players face suspension and that Blechen is now under a "zero tolerance policy."
Utah senior associate athletics director Liz Abel said the university would have nothing to add to the initial announcement on Monday that read: "Junior safety Brian Blechen will sit out the first three games of the season (Northern Colorado, Utah State and Brigham Young) for a violation of team rules. Blechen will participate in practices throughout his suspension."
Blechen, who is scheduled to return to action on Sept. 22 at Arizona State, has been a major contributor on
Utah's defense over the past two years — making 145 tackles and intercepting seven passes. He was named a Freshman All-American in 2010 and an honorable mention Pac-12 all-conference selection in 2011.
Junior Quade Chappuis now tops the depth chart as Utah's starter at strong safety. Junior Michael Walker and sophomore Terrell Reese are listed as the backups.
accadacca
08-10-2012, 06:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npVC97qnlYE&sns=em
Iceaxe
08-11-2012, 08:23 AM
Sweet video!
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Garbanzo
08-12-2012, 03:11 PM
[QUOTE=Iceaxe;506492]SALT LAKE CITY
rockgremlin
08-12-2012, 03:21 PM
Um, I fail to see how smoking pot is gonna give him a distinctive physical advantage. If anything it would slow him down and render him a less effective athlete. Steroids however are a completely different story...
accadacca
08-20-2012, 03:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WFqMFszi64
Garbanzo
08-20-2012, 04:20 PM
Youre right about the pot smoking and the steroids. However, Marijuana is an illegal drug. I know, I smoked it for years. What were we just talking about......? Hmm..... anyway, I was just commenting on the weak punishment handed down by WhIttIngham. I guess no one really kicks a dead dog anyway. As long he's there for the beating on Oct 4th, I'm good with it. :D
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accadacca
08-28-2012, 12:42 PM
Predictions for the game on Thursday night vs. Northern Colorado? How about the rest of the season?
The Utes will obviously win on Thursday and I have them picked to go 9-3. :popcorn: They will lose to USC, Washington and another team...
Who is headed up? Myself, @rockgremlin (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=5) and @double moo (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=116) will be there. :ute_helmet:
rockgremlin
08-28-2012, 01:07 PM
Some sports commentator predicted a tough fight for the Utes citing previous games Colorado had played against highly ranked opponents, and beating them. He claimed they spoiled several conf. championships (or something) over the past 3 years, and that they could very well walk away from Utah with a win.
Iceaxe
08-28-2012, 02:23 PM
Some sports commentator predicted a tough fight for the Utes.
I hate it when folks make dumbass predictions because there is no downside.... if he really believes that horseshit he is selling then he should put some money on the game.....
Of course there is no betting line on this game because no sports book is dumb enough to take wages on the game.... but if anyone wants to back up a prediction with their pocket book I'll take Utah and give you 10 points.... no problemooo....
Deuce
08-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Would guess the line would be more like 28/30......maybe larger. We're talking about a team that hasn't won a game since 2010 and is 3-19 the last 2 years(7-37 over the past 4 years), against the Weber States of College Football. Weber was 11-11 during that two year span, to give you a team close to their talent level. Make no mistake, the team coming into SLC on Thursday is BAD.....REALLY BAD....not only a really bad for a FBS school, but they currently are ranked at the 97th(out of 122) FCS teams(the old 1-AA).....
I am just frustrated that I cannot get up to the game and at this point, can't even DVR it...... Hope DirecTV and the PAC12 Network can get their chit in a pile in the next 24 hours....
Deuce
08-31-2012, 09:38 AM
Utah did what they had to do, but will need to step up their game a bit against Utah State, who looked very good against an outmatched Southern Utah team.
Iceaxe
08-31-2012, 10:30 AM
I still don't know what to think of this Utah team. The opponent was so bad its hard to know. Utah State will be a better gauge. The QB was not very impressive for a PAC12 team, but the freshman QB was fun to watch but he has a lot to learn. BJ did a good job of calling the game.
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accadacca
08-31-2012, 11:57 AM
Yeah, Utah looked "okay." Not great, not bad. NC was horrible....
Scott Card
08-31-2012, 12:30 PM
Playing to the level of the competition perhaps? I worry about the same type of game with BYU vs. Weber State next week. That I why I really don't like the cup cake games.
accadacca
08-31-2012, 12:31 PM
Playing to the level of the competition perhaps?
I was thinking that too. Perhaps they didn't really want to look all that good...
I sure like the potential of this kid: http://utahutes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wilson_travis00.html :popcorn:
Garbanzo
08-31-2012, 01:48 PM
I think they have a perfect ladder to October10th. The level of play increases incrementally. The Az State game on the road will really set things up if they can win.
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Iceaxe
08-31-2012, 03:06 PM
Utah QB Travis Wilson hurdles defender...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka6jkma6ic0
His TD run was actually a much better run but I couldn't find a clip of that.
accadacca
08-31-2012, 06:50 PM
He must like to hurdle. Watch the second play from this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAXIWi7ZY2U&sns=em
accadacca
09-05-2012, 12:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5OjD2Z1o8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
rockgremlin
09-07-2012, 07:33 AM
He must like to hurdle. Watch the second play from this clip.
DANG! That kid moves like a black guy! I wonder if he ran track too - he's fast.
rockgremlin
09-07-2012, 06:46 PM
The "MIGHTY" Utes got waxed by a WAC team....PATHETIC!!!
rockgremlin
09-07-2012, 08:51 PM
Every time Travis Wilson got on the field he either threw a TD pass, or ran it in for a TD.....and yet they chose NOT to play him for most of the game. WTF?!?!
Iceaxe
09-07-2012, 09:40 PM
Utah looked pathetic on offense. And I wasn't thrilled with the coaching on D.
Start Wilson next week.... end of story.
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accadacca
09-08-2012, 08:00 AM
Big win for the Aggies...
Lotta mistakes of course. Hayes came in and looked pretty good, much better than Wynn. Interesting play calling at times. I thought the Aggies defense played well. No excuses, but I saw a Utah player get held in OT when Keaton scrambled to the goal line. The Utes had their chances...
Picture taken from a bogley member
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Deuce
09-08-2012, 10:17 AM
What a EPIC FAILURE on the offensive side of the ball.....
Let's go back to Feb 2nd/3rd.......
:ne_nau:
Don't know how you give a 24 year old kid this job.... Guess it could be his many years of coaching.....or the amazing quarterbacks that he has developed in those years.....
Think there is a reason they didn't announce until after signing day....
I wish the best for BJ and love the Utes, but this has me scratching my head.
It will be interesting to watch him put together a gameplan on Sunday/Monday, implement that during the week & how effective it is come Saturday.
The season is young, but I think we just saw the reason you don't see 25 year old OC's in major college football....
Now with Wynn out and nobody to blame for the lack of offense, the microscope will fall directly on this hire......
rockgremlin
09-08-2012, 11:43 AM
Start Wilson next week.... end of story.
YES!!! I'm glad that dipshit Wynn is out - I hope it was a compound fracture and he's benched for the rest of the season. Look at Wynn's track record through 2 games vs. Wilson's track record for the same period.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist....
accadacca
09-08-2012, 11:55 AM
I'd take Hays over Wynn too. WAY more experience... veteran. :ne_nau:
Deuce
09-08-2012, 01:15 PM
It is hard to believe that Wynn is not the best quarterback on the roster. There is a reason he was starting.... It's not like Whit and BJ started him because they are nice guys and don't want to hurt his feelings. They watch these guys for hours a day and then more on film.....
It is easy to take a couple plays from Wilson and read into it, but there is also a reason Hays relieved Wynn, obviously Wilson is not ready for the entire offense.
They're both going to get a ton of snaps with the 1's this week though(practice)
accadacca
09-08-2012, 10:42 PM
Well the Pac-12 looked pretty solid this week.
UCLA beat #16 Nebraska
Oregon State beat #13 Wisconsin
Arizona beat #18 Oklahoma State
USC wins with Barkey throwing 6 TD's @ Syracuse
Arizona State waxes Illinois
Cal Wins
Stanford Wins
Washington State Wins
Oh wait, except for Utah and Colorado
Utah loses to Utah State
Colorado (now 0-2) loses to Sacramento State
Washingon gets waxed by LSU (at least it was an SEC team...)
skiclimb3287
09-08-2012, 11:04 PM
Was painful to watch. Did anyone else notice the excitement by the rest of the team when Hays entered the game. The guys were all smiles in the huddle. That says something for sure.
Took awhile to getting around to posting these, but here are a few photos I took from the game against Northern Colorado:
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The storm rolls in
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Trevor Lewis brought the Stanley Cup during halftime!
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Swoop escorting Lewis on a victory lap
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Wynn throws to an open Dres Anderson
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The new 4th quarter tradition
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Wynn airs it out to Dres once again
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Dres pulls it in
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The storms missed us, but left an awesome sunset!
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accadacca
09-08-2012, 11:25 PM
Did anyone else notice the excitement by the rest of the team when Hays entered the game. The guys were all smiles in the huddle. That says something for sure.
I noticed that too
accadacca
09-10-2012, 12:11 AM
Well, 5 Pac-12 teams ended up in the top 25. BYU is at #25. Who is going to win the holy war in 4 days? :popcorn:
Iceaxe
09-10-2012, 06:04 AM
Utah will either right the ship before the BYU game... or its going to be a long season.... it all depends on the QB.
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rockgremlin
09-10-2012, 07:30 AM
My prediction:
Hays will do enough to make it interesting, but BYU will still win. Utah has been demoralized and BYU knows it, and will capitalize this weekend.
Lets face it.....Utah = OVERRATED. :fitz:
accadacca
09-10-2012, 11:15 AM
Wynn's football career is officially over. Heard it on the press conference....
Hays will start against BYU.
Deuce
09-10-2012, 11:28 AM
Wynn's football career is officially over. Heard it on the press conference....
Hays will start against BYU.
Feel bad for Wynn. After such a promising start, which concluded in a bowl win over Cal....he just couldn't stay healthy. I wish him the best and thank him for the memories.
Iceaxe
09-10-2012, 12:20 PM
Hays will start against BYU.
Did Utah actually announce Hays would start? If so that is a dumbass announcement... it would be much more difficult for BYU to prepare if they didn't know who the starting QB was going to be as Hays and Wilson have different skill sets.
Just sayin'
Iceaxe
09-10-2012, 12:25 PM
"Hays and Wilson are listed as co-starters for Saturday's game against BYU".
That's a much better way of coaching football....
Utah Utes football: Jordan Wynn to retire from football
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah quarterback Jordan Wynn plans to retire as a football player following his latest injury, this one suffered to his non-throwing shoulder in Friday night's 27-20 overtime loss at Utah State. Wynn made the decision after consulting with his father and Utah coach Kyle Whittingham.
"It's tough, no doubt," said Whittingham, while praising Wynn's contributions and toughness.
Wynn suffered the injury after getting hit following an incompletion with 1:04 remaining in the first half and the Utes trailing 13-0. Backup Jon Hays took over and played most of the second half. True freshman Travis Wilson also saw action.
Hays and Wilson are listed as co-starters for Saturday's game against BYU.
The loss dropped Wynn's record as Utah's starting quarterback to 14-7. His career highlights include being named the 2009 Poinsettia Bowl MVP, capping the most successful season in Utah history by a true freshman quarterback. Wynn completed 104-of-179 passes for 1,329 yards and eight touchdowns.
As sophomore, Wynn made 10 starts — completing 186-of-299 passes for 2,334 yards and 17 touchdowns.
Injuries took an even bigger toll last season. Wynn made four starts before being sidelined midway through a loss to Washington. He completed 66-of-116 passes for 727 yards in 2011.
Wynn battled back from his third shoulder surgery since the spring of 2010 to reclaim his starting job this year. The NCAA granted him a medical hardship as well, giving him two seasons of eligibility.
Iceaxe
09-10-2012, 12:32 PM
Utah football: Jordan Wynn ends injury-plagued Utah career
Published on Sep 10, 2012 12:31PM
Jordan Wynn will not return to the field for the Utah football program, coach Kyle Whittingham announced Monday.
Wynn, who went down with a left shoulder injury with 1:04 remaining in the first half of Utah’s 27-20 loss Friday at Utah State, reinjured the shoulder that kept him out of nine games last season. The injury was severe enough to determine it was not worth attempting another comeback and Whittingham said Wynn will likely need another surgery.
"He’s fought so hard and he’s come back so many times and he’s just, right now, ready to move on," Whittingham said.
Wynn struggled through the 88 minutes and 54 seconds of the season before he got hurt. In the six quarters he played, the junior completed 25-of-38 passes for 247 yards, two touchdowns and an interception.
Whittingham said backup Jon Hays and change-up freshman Travis Wilson will fight for the starting position. Hays was 6-3 last year as a starter following Wynn’s shoulder injury, but Wilson has provided a spark this season, primarily as a running back. He has scored three touchdowns, including a pass to Kenneth Smith against Utah State.
Whittingham said the competition between Hays and Wilson has been close throughout the fall and that he does not know who will start against BYU.
"In practice the gap is very small," Whittingham said. "In scrimmages, the gap is very small. But guys react differently when they’re ‘the guy.’ So far, Travis hasn’t been ‘the guy.’"
Whittingham said the Utes will only continue with the two-quarterback system seen in the first two games if Hays is named the starter. In that instance, Wilson, a 6-foot-6 freshman from San Clemente, Calif., would continue to enter the game for specific packages. However, if Wilson were the starter, Hays would serve purely as a backup.
"It’s either Jon’s the guy with Travis supplementing what we do or it’s Travis is the guy," Whittingham said.
accadacca
09-10-2012, 01:36 PM
Hays will start. Calling my shot. Wilson isn't ready. They might practice more plays with him this week (I hope) so he's not so one dimensional when he comes in, but Hays will get the bulk of the work unless he starts REALLY stinking it up.
Iceaxe
09-10-2012, 02:46 PM
Who I think will start is a much different deal then a coach announcing who will start.
If Utah doesn't announce then the BYU defence will basically lose one day of preparation because they have to prep and game plan for both.
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accadacca
09-10-2012, 02:52 PM
I do think it is smart to get Wilson as many reps as possible this season. He will no doubt be the favorite to start next season and Hays will be graduated. Yet you dont want to call it a rebuilding year with as much talent as they have on the field at other positions. They really have some weapons if they can get a guy that can distribute the ball. I heard that Wilson has had some great chemistry with sophomore WR Dres Anderson in practice.
Kent K25
09-11-2012, 01:11 PM
Well, 5 Pac-12 teams ended up in the top 25. BYU is at #25. Who is going to win the holy war in 4 days? :popcorn:
This game could still go any conceivable way. Ute blowout, Cougar blowout, tight game, anything is possible. Utah is better than they looked against USU and BYU hasn't really proven that they're very good yet. Their inability to score in the red zone on several occasions already this year is a bit troubling.
Iceaxe
09-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Delivering a first class ass-kicking to BYU right now is just what the Utes need.....
Go Utes!
Deuce
09-11-2012, 01:57 PM
Delivering a first class ass-kicking to BYU right now is just what the Utes need.....
Go Utes!
Another 54-10 Utes win would make me feel a whole lot better....
Scott Card
09-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Another 54-10 Utes win would make me feel a whole lot better....
Not me...:fitz: :haha:
Iceaxe
09-11-2012, 04:11 PM
Watching this never gets old....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M09sopqzAY
Scott Card
09-11-2012, 09:31 PM
Huh.... I don't remember any of that.
rockgremlin
09-12-2012, 08:38 AM
Here's hoping my new av will direct a little black magic in the Ute's favor on Saturday.....
Deuce
09-12-2012, 10:01 AM
...........and the word from the hill, John White IV didn't practice today...........
rockgremlin
09-12-2012, 10:38 AM
...........and the word from the hill, John White IV didn't practice today...........
What a pussy
accadacca
09-13-2012, 01:38 PM
White is "100%"
accadacca
09-13-2012, 01:39 PM
Just got this letter from Chris Hill. In other words...don't dump beer on cougar fans. :lol8:
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Dear Ute Fans:
As we prepare for the BYU football game this weekend I want to take a moment to remind all fans of the sportsmanship and respect our fans are expected to show to our guests on campus and at Rice-Eccles Stadium. We made a strong commitment in 2011 to make our campus a welcoming place for fans of the visiting teams. Our guests, especially the Pac-12 teams, took notice of the fun atmosphere in the stadium while our fans maintained a high level of sportsmanship. We anticipate this standard of excellence to continue in 2012 and beyond.
We want all fans to enjoy their experience at Rice-Eccles Stadium. If you see any fans disrespecting our guests with inappropriate signs, language or actions which do not represent the University of Utah in the fashion we all expect, please ask one of our stadium security/ushers to address the issue. You can also utilize the UFan Fone by texting 'UFAN' and your seat location and the issue to 69050 and stadium security will address the issue.
We all want to win and we want to do it the right way. That includes our fans in the stands. Enjoy the day on campus tailgating, spending time with family and fans and cheer loud for the Utes on Saturday night.
Thank you and Go Utes!
Dr. Chris Hill
Director of Athletics
Iceaxe
09-15-2012, 10:54 PM
WOW!
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accadacca
09-15-2012, 11:29 PM
Karma's a bitch...
nelsonccc
09-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Owned! Booyha.
accadacca
09-16-2012, 12:03 AM
58888
RedSpecialized
09-16-2012, 06:43 AM
I guess we know which team wasn't living right on & off the field.....haha
RedSpecialized
09-16-2012, 06:54 AM
Pictures that need no explaining
Deuce
09-16-2012, 08:18 AM
Oh I am on a high this morning.....
The offense still looks terrible, but a win is a win.
accadacca
09-16-2012, 10:56 AM
double moo and I are going to have to keep an eye on rockgremlin He might just get thrown out of a game. It's only game two and he is already getting in fights! :lol8:
accadacca
09-16-2012, 01:00 PM
Highlights from BYU TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlC7-wbpW84&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Iceaxe
09-16-2012, 02:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5doOc7fpo
Iceaxe
09-16-2012, 02:24 PM
That was by far Jon Hays' best game ever, he was throwing darts. Now if Utah can manage to get the giant holes in their O-line fixed they will have something. It will also help to get White back.
And putting Wilson in to only run read option is a waste. If you are going to have a running QB package you need a few passes, or run some veer... anything but the one play.
rockgremlin
09-16-2012, 02:31 PM
@double moo (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=116) and I are going to have to keep an eye on @rockgremlin (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=5) He might just get thrown out of a game. It's only game two and he is already getting in fights! :lol8:
I'm a shit-talker, not a boxer. If that idiot in front of me would've turned around to go heads up I would've sat there peacefully and called his bluff. He wasn't gonna do anything - not with his fat girlfriend and his skinny BYU loving boyfriend sitting beside him.
Dude, it's the holy war - whaddaya expect? Did Y fan actually think he was gonna sit in the midst of the red sea and not get rocks thrown at him?
accadacca
09-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Nice stickers... :haha:
58885
accadacca
09-18-2012, 03:14 PM
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/269591/crazyfans.gif
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:42 AM
58972
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:43 AM
58973
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:46 AM
58974
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:46 AM
58975
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:47 AM
58976
accadacca
09-19-2012, 08:52 AM
58977
accadacca
09-19-2012, 11:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ON1uKKeSk0Y
accadacca
09-20-2012, 10:01 AM
Under Armour Reveals Utah Utes New Black Helmet Via Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qjorZBlzYeY#!
Deuce
09-20-2012, 04:27 PM
I'm a Ute fan and think that video was as bad as it gets.....WTF????
Side note, word is that they are wearing it with a white decal this weekend....
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i397/EJB21/Utes3_zps77d67195.jpg
Iceaxe
09-22-2012, 10:00 PM
What a beat down!
Utah was still basking in the glow of the BYU victory and forgot to show up.
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accadacca
09-22-2012, 11:06 PM
Worked...
rockgremlin
09-23-2012, 01:18 AM
Let's just chalk 2012 up to a "rebuilding" year. Their offense is discombobulated, the defense is a mess - where the hell were the Ute's secondary? AS's QB was throwing TDs and 1st downs at will. It was embarrassing. Here's how the remainder of the season will shake out:
Utes will go 6-6....
Oct. 4, vs USC: LOSS
Oct. 13, @ UCLA: LOSS
Oct. 20, @ Oregon State: WIN
Oct. 27, vs. California: WIN
Nov. 3, vs. Washington State: WIN
Nov. 10, @ Washington: LOSS
Nov. 17, vs. Arizona: LOSS
Nov. 23, @ Colorado: WIN
Bad Karma
09-23-2012, 08:43 AM
I'm worried about them carrying this one over the rest of the season similar to after the TCU lost a few years back. They never were the same team from that point on. Oregon State is looking pretty good this year so I think we're looking at another 3 straight losses at least. That might kill the season but at least we didn't lose the game 3 times last night.
Deuce
09-23-2012, 10:09 AM
Let's just chalk 2012 up to a "rebuilding" year. Their offense is discombobulated, the defense is a mess - where the hell were the Ute's secondary? AS's QB was throwing TDs and 1st downs at will. It was embarrassing.
The problem with that is, they're not rebuilding.... They return 9 offensive starters and 7 defensive starters....not to mention both kickers.... I have no explanation for the defense last night, I still think it is a solid group, but they looked confused and unprepared.
Their offense....and I have been saying it for a while, is a trainwreck and has a 25 year old kid calling the shots.... Hell, half BYU's roster is 25...so are a few Utes I'm sure. Currently they are ranked 101st in the FBS in total offense.... If you take out the FCS school they played(Northern Colorado) and just looked at FBS opponents, it would be worse. The offense has scored about 15 points a game against FBS opponents, 17 if you give them the touchdown the D scored against BYU.
Last year Utah was in this same place 2-2(1-2 against FBS opponents). Their FBS opponents; BYU(10-3), USC(10-2) and Washington(7-6). The Utes were averaging 404 yards of offense and 23 points a game. You would think that a schedule that was close to equal, many may consider it a bit easier(Utah State for USC, Washington and ASU being even), Utah is averaging 282 yards of offense and 15 points a game.... SIGNIFICANT drop off and playing with 9 returning starters(granted, John White did not play against BYU, but that was a stinking win.....), what is the significant difference in this team....this year from last?
I REALLY hope they can right the ship, but this could be a long season and if things don't get better, I don't know how they can keep Brian Johnson at OC....
** I consider Jon Hays a starter, as he started 9 games last year and won a bowl game as their starter.
accadacca
09-23-2012, 10:09 AM
Agreed. Oregon State could be a tough one on the road.
Deuce
09-23-2012, 11:23 AM
Oh...and to sum up those numbers, the Utes are down 30% in offensive production and 35% in scoring....with 9 of their 11 starters back on offense.
rockgremlin
10-04-2012, 07:32 AM
Any guesses as to what the final score will be tonight? Here's mine:
USC 49 Utah 6
The only silver lining I can identify is that USC will be so far ahead in the 4th quarter that Wilson will get some quality playing time versus a tough opponent.
Iceaxe
10-04-2012, 08:03 AM
Vegas has Utah as a 13 point dog.
I'll take the Utes and the 13 points. The Utah D will show up and its at home where Utah normally plays good ball. Utah also has the Stanford blueprint for beating USC and the players to copy it.
I can't wait for the kickoff.
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rockgremlin
10-04-2012, 09:23 AM
I'll take the Utes and the 13 points. The Utah D will show up and its at home where Utah normally plays good ball. Utah also has the Stanford blueprint for beating USC and the players to copy it.
OK then, USC 38 Utah 9
accadacca
10-04-2012, 11:47 AM
I agree, USC will cover the spread. Hopefully it doesn't get ugly. :facepalm1:
Deuce
10-04-2012, 03:43 PM
Hoping that Utah can make it an ugly game and keep it close, which is possible..... GO UTES!
skiclimb3287
10-04-2012, 04:58 PM
GO UTES!!!! Hoping for a fun one!
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Iceaxe
10-04-2012, 09:19 PM
USC 49 Utah 6
USC will cover the spread.
At least now we know why you two are bottom feeders in Fantasy Football.....
:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:
Vegas has Utah as a 13 point dog.
I'll take the Utes and the 13 points.
:popcorn:
rockgremlin
10-05-2012, 07:15 AM
At least now we know why you two are bottom feeders in Fantasy Football.....
:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:
:popcorn:
Hey Genius -- Let the record show that I predicted the outcome as well as USC's final score. If we were both in vegas putting cash down I'd be the one walking away the winner. :fitz:
accadacca
10-05-2012, 10:33 AM
USC would have covered until Utah scored in garbage time.
rockgremlin
10-05-2012, 10:50 AM
Garbage time started at about 7:15 of the 1st quarter. That first 8 minutes was fun while it lasted!
Iceaxe
10-05-2012, 01:28 PM
USC would have covered until Utah scored in garbage time.
Would of could of should of.... if you are betting the only thing that matters is the final point spread....
Now I have to decide how to spend the $100 I won last night.... should I let it ride on tonight's BYU/Utah state game or quit while I'm ahead...
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rockgremlin
10-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Would of could of should of.... if you are betting the only thing that matters is the final point spread....
Now I have to decide how to spend the $100 I won last night.... should I let it ride on tonight's BYU/Utah state game or quit while I'm ahead...
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Parlay them winnings on USU winning. Looks like Vegas has BYU a 6 point favorite. I'd take those odds.
Iceaxe
10-05-2012, 02:31 PM
I can get 7 points.... the part that scares me is you and acca agree...
LOL
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Iceaxe
10-08-2012, 10:16 AM
If Travis Wilson is Utah's future it's time to start him. Hays just doesn't have the arm strength to zing the ball in fast enough. PAC12 safeties and corners are just too fast. They close on the receiver while the ball is on it's lazy trajectory. It wasn't much of a problem when playing teams with little speed in their defensive backfields, but its a death sentence against the speed of ASU and USC.
accadacca
10-08-2012, 11:54 AM
The prob with that is that Wilson doesn't know the offense. Kinda like Taysom Hill...check first read, then run for your life. :crazycobasa: :lol8:
Iceaxe
10-08-2012, 12:51 PM
The prob with that is that Wilson doesn't know the offense.
Than simplify the playbook.... getting a productive offense on the field is on the coaching staff.
You can always run a Veer offense with Wilson. He would be good at it and there are only 5 plays. Every thing else is read and react.
accadacca
10-08-2012, 03:09 PM
Its a tough call. Hays did okay against USC, but he's an QB average at best. I heard the stat on the radion that out of 12 collegiate starts Hays has not broken the 200 yards passing mark in any of those games...
My bet is they will start Hays against UCLA... :popcorn:
accadacca
10-12-2012, 11:47 PM
UCLA is favored by 9.5
Can the Yewts get it done?
accadacca
10-13-2012, 11:29 AM
Travis Wilson is starting!
rockgremlin
10-13-2012, 09:50 PM
Utes will go 6-6....
Oct. 4, vs USC: LOSS
Oct. 13, @ UCLA: LOSS
Oct. 20, @ Oregon State: WIN
Oct. 27, vs. California: WIN
Nov. 3, vs. Washington State: WIN
Nov. 10, @ Washington: LOSS
Nov. 17, vs. Arizona: LOSS
Nov. 23, @ Colorado: WIN
So far so good....although I believe my next prediction (Oregano State) will be the third loss in a row.
accadacca
10-13-2012, 10:14 PM
I picked them to go 9-3. :roll:
rockgremlin
10-17-2012, 08:10 AM
From Kyle W's weekly press conference 10/16:
On Travis Wilson (http://utahutes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wilson_travis00.html):
Right now he's our guy. We are pleased with his initial performance. We don't want him playing on eggshells. There is a fine line - we talk about being competitive and we need him to perform, but at the same time he has to know that we have confidence in him and what we saw in that game we have confidence in him that he will continue to perform.
[We were impressed with] number one the poise and accuracy he displayed. A true freshman going into the Rose Bowl for his first significant playing time, to be the guy and have the starting role, I thought he responded well. UCLA is a good defense, they are athletic and fast, and I thought he responded pretty good.
I too believe Wilson is our guy. I think he's the UofU's go to guy for the next 4 years. That said, we need to get some offensive line in there to protect Wilson.
Final score on Saturday: Orgazmo State 45 Utah 13
accadacca
10-17-2012, 10:17 AM
Yeah I think they get lit up and continue the losing streak. :facepalm1:
rockgremlin
10-17-2012, 10:39 AM
Yeah I think they get lit up and continue the losing streak. :facepalm1:
Only until Cal shows up. I've already got my fanboy blackout gear all ready.
accadacca
10-20-2012, 10:33 PM
Ouch...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/21/arequryz.jpg
nelsonccc
10-20-2012, 10:55 PM
Ouch...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/21/arequryz.jpg
And I though UNLV was bad.
Iceaxe
10-20-2012, 11:04 PM
Can you say.... bottom feeder?
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accadacca
10-21-2012, 07:29 AM
No bowl game this year...
Deuce
10-21-2012, 07:29 AM
The problem with that is, they're not rebuilding.... They return 9 offensive starters and 7 defensive starters....not to mention both kickers.... I have no explanation for the defense last night, I still think it is a solid group, but they looked confused and unprepared.
Their offense....and I have been saying it for a while, is a trainwreck and has a 25 year old kid calling the shots.... Hell, half BYU's roster is 25...so are a few Utes I'm sure. Currently they are ranked 101st in the FBS in total offense.... If you take out the FCS school they played(Northern Colorado) and just looked at FBS opponents, it would be worse. The offense has scored about 15 points a game against FBS opponents, 17 if you give them the touchdown the D scored against BYU.
Last year Utah was in this same place 2-2(1-2 against FBS opponents). Their FBS opponents; BYU(10-3), USC(10-2) and Washington(7-6). The Utes were averaging 404 yards of offense and 23 points a game. You would think that a schedule that was close to equal, many may consider it a bit easier(Utah State for USC, Washington and ASU being even), Utah is averaging 282 yards of offense and 15 points a game.... SIGNIFICANT drop off and playing with 9 returning starters(granted, John White did not play against BYU, but that was a stinking win.....), what is the significant difference in this team....this year from last?
I REALLY hope they can right the ship, but this could be a long season and if things don't get better, I don't know how they can keep Brian Johnson at OC....
** I consider Jon Hays a starter, as he started 9 games last year and won a bowl game as their starter.
....and it isn't getting any better.... The Utes Offense ranks 94th in passing, 113 in rushing and 107th overall.
The big problem, can they(will they) demote Brian Johnson at this point? Is Whit too proud to replace him now or at the end of the season? What a stinking trainwreck of a season. In my worst case scenario I wouldn't have guessed this.:facepalm1:
Deuce
10-21-2012, 08:05 AM
^^^^ Those numbers may be off.... Looks like 117 in total offense(yards per game), out of 120 total FBS teams. They are 107th in scoring, which is really what counts, points on the board..... But to be clear, our scoring is down 20% from last year.
...also, a somewhat fun stat, the D has actually scored 4 touchdowns, which is 20% of their total points scored this year and counts in their 107th ranking in total points. In reality, the offense is averaging 18 points a game.....and 14 points a game against FBS opponents.
Fun Sunday morning stats for everyone....
Iceaxe
10-21-2012, 09:00 AM
The big problem, can they(will they) demote Brian Johnson at this point?
I have no problem with BJ, in fact I think he is doing a good job and will be a real asset down the road. The problem with Utah is execution. BJ isn't the one missing tackles, fumbling the football, missing field goals, throwing interceptions or getting the personal fouls. Clean up those problems and Utah would have a descent record.
Deuce
10-21-2012, 09:38 AM
I have no problem with BJ, in fact I think he is doing a good job and will be a real asset down the road. The problem with Utah is execution. BJ isn't the one missing tackles, fumbling the football, missing field goals, throwing interceptions or getting the personal fouls. Clean up those problems and Utah would have a descent record.
Execution is a direct reflection of coaching.....:ne_nau:
We can agree to disagree, but I think the stats show that Brian Johnson is doing a TERRIBLE JOB.... He has the same bunch(9 returning starters), who are all a year older and more experienced, and is doing 20% worse.... He is out of his league and showing his inability to get these kids prepared to put points on the board and win football games. But really, is anyone surprised....I mean he is 25 and does have 2 years experience coaching at any level.:facepalm1:
Deuce
10-21-2012, 09:47 AM
But really, is anyone surprised....I mean he is 25 and does have 2 years experience coaching at any level.:facepalm1:
You know what....I am surprised, it is hard to believe that someone could take what was a mediocre, at best, offense...but experienced, ready to make improvements and make it worse..... Then again, I didn't like this hire back in February. You know, the 25 years old, 2 years of coaching experience, the position you are coaching is arguably the worst on the team....showing no jump in improvement....
You'd think I don't like Brian Johnson, but I do.... I just think he is so unprepared for this job it isn't funny....that is not his fault....
rockgremlin
10-21-2012, 10:15 AM
Who watched the game start-finish? How many DROPPED PASSES were there by our receivers? At least 8 I'd say...Wilson would hit the receiver right in the hands, and they kept dropping the rock all night. OSU's receivers didn't seem to have a problem catching the ball...wtf?
Iceaxe
10-21-2012, 11:23 AM
Execution is a direct reflection of coaching.....
I agree.... but this is on Whit. The offense is a large group of coach's... line, rob, wr, te. I believe BJ's play calling is actually pretty good for a rookie.
If you want to see the real problem with the offense look at the line. Its hard to throw touchdowns when you are lying on your back. And it really shows in the run game as their are no holes. The line lost 2 NFL tackles from last years team.
Utah has problems, I just think you are tossing the wrong guy under the bus.
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Deuce
10-21-2012, 11:32 AM
Who watched the game start-finish? How many DROPPED PASSES were there by our receivers? At least 8 I'd say...Wilson would hit the receiver right in the hands, and they kept dropping the rock all night. OSU's receivers didn't seem to have a problem catching the ball...wtf?
I counted 5, so pretty close.
1 - White in the 1st(could have been a big play)
2 - White in the 3rd
3 - White in the 3rd(lucky this wasn't a fumble)
4 - Murphy in the 4th(a TD)
5 - Tonga in the 4th (this is close, maybe not a drop, looked like he only got one hand on it, but it looked catchable...meh?)
Add - Matthews dropped one in the 4th. There was a roughing the passer that gave the Utes 15 yards and the first. I think some may think the first int, ball that went through Christopher's hand was a drop. I think the ball was HIGH and was too hot to be considered a drop, it was a poorly thrown ball.
anyway, my take on the drops.
Deuce
10-21-2012, 11:55 AM
I agree.... but this is on Whit. The offense is a large group of coach's... line, rob, wr, te. I believe LBJ's play calling is actually pretty good for a rookie.
If you want to see the real problem with the offense look at the line. Its hard to throw touchdowns when you are lying on your back. And it really shows in the run game as their are no holes. The line lost 2 NFL tackles from last years team.
Utah has problems, I just think you are tossing the wrong guy under the bud.
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I agree that the final blame lies with Whittingham. But you are 100% correct in the fact that the offense is a large group of coaches and all of them are under the direction and guidance of a 25 year old kid. It is his offensive group, his show.... Everyone brings up play calling, but that is only a part of an OC's job. The big part in Sunday-Thursday, looking at film, deciding where you can attack successfully, putting together a game plan, then implementing that during the week.
I also agree that the Utes have had a tough time replacing Bergstrom and Cullen(he hasn't stuck in the NFL).
accadacca
10-21-2012, 01:16 PM
Agreed that you have to execute and that's not BJ's fault. Perhaps safer, higher percentage/lower risk play calling at times would be wise.
I don't see those trick, high risk plays in the NFL or SEC. Seasoned play callers don't take those kind of risks when they don't have to. It's a numbers game.
Iceaxe
10-21-2012, 05:47 PM
If Utah had an O-line most of this would be a non-issue. You call trick plays to mask other problems and try to slow or take advantage of the pursuit. I have no problem with the way BJ is calling the actual game.
If Utah would have cut their dumdass mistakes in half yesterday they would have had a win.... they beat themselves....
And lets not even talk about field goals.... if we had a kicker that could hit just make a couple of the easy ones it would take a lot of pressure of the offense. Talk about stacking pressure on an already shakey unit...
accadacca
10-21-2012, 07:10 PM
Yeah, they beat themselves. That is the worst part. OSU could hardly move the ball for most of the game. The Utes coughed it up both times in the OSU redzone and then they punched it in. Without those turnovers they probably win the game.
Iceaxe
10-21-2012, 07:53 PM
Turnovers, dropped passes, personal fouls, missed FG's, missed tackles.... take you pick.
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Deuce
10-21-2012, 08:10 PM
No doubt that the U had their chances.... But a win is a win, a loss is a loss... Turnovers, penalties, red zone issues, the kicking game...bla...bla...bla. This team needs leadership....
Iceaxe
10-21-2012, 10:20 PM
One more item in BJ's defence.... three different QB's in his first six games as OC? Talk about being placed in a difficult situation.... I'm not sure anyone could do much with the hand he has been dealt to date.
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RedSpecialized
10-22-2012, 06:58 AM
Execution is a direct reflection of coaching.....:ne_nau:
We can agree to disagree, but I think the stats show that Brian Johnson is doing a TERRIBLE JOB.... He has the same bunch(9 returning starters), who are all a year older and more experienced, and is doing 20% worse.... He is out of his league and showing his inability to get these kids prepared to put points on the board and win football games. But really, is anyone surprised....I mean he is 25 and does have 2 years experience coaching at any level.:facepalm1:
So you saying its BJ fault as a coach they drove down to about the 4 yrd. Line and DeVonte fumbled on a perfectly executed play that most likely would have been a play for 6, the guy could have crawled on into endzone if he could held to basically a hand off. Are you also saying that the opening drive for utes, the one where they missed the field goal is BJ's fault as well....? And off corse all the things that have already be talked about, the fumbe by willson, the several missed catches thrown almost perfect. And off course I'm sure it's BJ's fault that he's starting the 3rd string freshman....? Truth be told, I've never been a hudge BJ fan, I always thought he was over rated, but I don't really think you can say this loss was his fault, if anything, its Whits fault. He's recruited the players, I tought for the most part the play calling gave them a chance to win. I guess the rain was the problem....? Like grease on the ball....?
rockgremlin
10-22-2012, 09:03 AM
I guess the rain was the problem....? Like grease on the ball....?
OSU had no problem hanging onto the rock, and they were playing in the same rain. Dropping a perfectly executed handoff --- there's no excuse for that...along with Jon White's 3 other fumbles, one of which was probably a TD run. F**in' BS. If you play with the big boys, you gotta stop making dumbass little league mistakes.
It's no wonder Wilson stopped throwing the ball near the end of the game. Why? So his butterfinger WRs could hot potato the ball into the hands of OSU again?
Deuce
10-22-2012, 10:15 AM
I am not addressing individual plays, I am talking about taking over an offense with 9 returning starters and regressing by 20%.... We're looking at the big picture, not a play here or there.
If the offense is dropping balls, throwing ints, getting stupid penalties...that is on the players AND the coaches... Do you attribute the turnaround at ASU or UCLA, with the same players, to coaching?
3rd string freshman??? He has a senior QB that went 6-3 as a starter(all against BCS teams), with a bowl win. Utah found a way to win with him last year..... Brian Johnson is also his position coach, so we should see improvement over a Spring and then camp, right?
Deuce
10-22-2012, 10:18 AM
....and to be clear, I am not blaming this loss on Brian Johnson... I am saying he is a chitty OC right now.
Iceaxe
10-22-2012, 11:46 AM
Last years record had to do with john whites running. And white could run last year because he had a great line, which is the big problem this year.
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accadacca
10-22-2012, 11:48 AM
I think the Utes are wearing black for a different reason this year... :lol8:
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Deuce
10-22-2012, 11:53 AM
So if you only return 3 of 5 starters on an offensive line, your team is going to lose and lose and lose....? Fact is, most coaches lose a couple linemen every year....this isn't some catastrophic event that the Utes have to push through.
I shake my head wondering how people somehow don't see this team as BIG underachievers and this season a disappointment as far as wins vs talent on the field....
accadacca
10-22-2012, 01:37 PM
I shake my head wondering how people somehow don't see this team as BIG underachievers and this season a disappointment as far as wins vs talent on the field....
I totally agree....
I feel like we are wasting a lot of offensive talent this year and that sucks. We have a few good seniors who are leaving and other talented players at skill postions who are itching to make a play. On the other hand I understand that we have a freshman because our veteran got injured and our backup is a JC transfer who was never supposed to see much playing time. We are thin at the QB position and in the Pac-12 that wont cut it. Utah needs to stack them deep at QB if they are going to compete.
Iceaxe
10-22-2012, 04:24 PM
Utah needs to stack them deep at QB if they are going to compete.
^^^THIS^^^
RedSpecialized
10-22-2012, 04:34 PM
^^^THIS^^^
x10 with the above.^^^^
Would have beaten USU If Hayes had started and probaly many more games. I liked Wynn his first year, but after he got hurt, he was to scared to play and afraid to get hit or somthing. Never was the same. Fill bad for the guy, but worse for the rest of the team to have less than par QB play most of the season. Hayes is decent, just doesn't have the right build for the job.
Deuce
10-28-2012, 07:42 AM
Nice to relax on Sunday with a win.
accadacca
10-28-2012, 07:49 AM
Mr. Dunn had a nice evening...
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accadacca
10-31-2012, 07:04 PM
Will the Utes make a bowl game this year? :popcorn:
Deuce
10-31-2012, 08:54 PM
I think it is 50/50..... They have to get a win in Seattle or at home against Arizona. I don't think it would be a unthinkable to win both, nor surprising to go 0-2 in those games. That is assuming they can take care of business against WSU and Colorado, which is no given....as they learned last year against a TERRIBLE Colorado team.
accadacca
11-07-2012, 07:35 AM
The Utes are favored by 1 at Washington. Do they get the win?
rockgremlin
11-07-2012, 08:03 AM
The Utes are favored by 1 at Washington. Do they get the win?
Doubt it.
Iceaxe
11-07-2012, 09:10 AM
I'll take Utah! But I expect a hellava game.
White is finally healthy.
Utah trimmed their playbook (it was too much for a new QB/weekly QB rotation)
Play calling is getting better (fewer draws and bubble screens)
The game is slowing down for the QB.
Utah has a lot of athletes at the skill positions
O-line is looking better (not great)
Defense is showing up
Special teams having been playing lights-out (will they even kick to Dunn?)
I think Utah will become bowl eligible, which is a huge deal. Even if you just go play in the who-gives-a-shit bowl. By becoming bowl eligible you gain 15 extra days of practice from the NCAA, and traditionally Utah has used those days to work more with the guys who will have to step up next year.
Refuse too lose! :2thumbs:
rockgremlin
11-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Doubt it.
Ahem....You guys actually thought the shitass Utes could bumble their way to a W? :roflol: Comedy gold.
OK, someone enlighten me as to why the Utes' defense is so hyped? It appears that the only teams the Utes can stop are non-conference high school teams and Pac-12 doormats. It would also appear that every good Pac-12 team we play either breaks a school record or a season record or one of their players goes off for a career record -- or all of the above. Washington's tight end went off for a school record, and there was some other record broken on Washington's team...I don't recall.
Also -- did anyone else watch the game on the Pac-12 channel? If so, did you have audio after halftime? I had good picture, but I couldn't hear anything but this gross sucking sound, with a spitting sound about every ten minutes. Later after the game I figured out what it was. I put 2 and 2 together when I saw Sarkasian stumble out of the press box zipping up his fly. :flipa:
accadacca
11-11-2012, 06:45 AM
There were 3 plays that decided the game IMO.
#1 Going for a 4th and 1 on their own 40 at the VERY beginning of the 3rd quarter in a 6 point ball game??? Boneheaded!!!
#2 Fumbling a punt from WA after the defense did their job. At that point if was a 6 point ball game again and we give it back near the red zone. Boneheaded!!!
#3 Wilson looked like a deer in the headlights. 8/23, 55 yards and 1 INT won't get you starting for the practice squad in the Pac-12.
It was like taking candy from a baby for Washington after all the Utah mistakes.
accadacca
11-16-2012, 04:47 PM
The Yewt need to go 2-0 to reach a bowl game. Do they get the W this week against Arizona at home? :popcorn:
Deuce
11-17-2012, 07:25 AM
The Yewt need to go 2-0 to reach a bowl game. Do they get the W this week against Arizona at home? :popcorn:
I think so......though wouldn't bet on them.... They need to play great D, run the ball and not turn the ball over....we'll see.....:ne_nau:
accadacca
11-17-2012, 11:09 PM
Can someone explain why it's a good idea to go for a fake punt in a tie game at the beginning of the 4th on your own 35?
Iceaxe
11-18-2012, 08:28 AM
Can someone explain why it's a good idea to go for a fake punt in a tie game at the beginning of the 4th on your own 35?
1. Because you have no faith in your offense being able to score.
2. Because your defense looks like a swinging gate to the AZ running back and can't stop anyone.
Deuce
11-18-2012, 09:00 AM
What an EPIC MELTDOWN of a season....no other way to describe it.....utter failure from the top down. They took a stacked team that was picked to contend for a South Division Championship and chit the bed so bad, they are not even going to get a crappy bowl bid.
At least travelers can look at it as getting a 2-4K Holiday bonus....:2thumbs:
rockgremlin
11-18-2012, 09:17 AM
AZ had 480 yds total offense. Why was our defense so hyped at the beginning of the season again? We USED to have a defense back when we were playing UTEP, Wyoming, and all the other Mtn. West doormats...
Damn the Pac-12 has laid bare all of the Ute's faults in vivid detail.
Iceaxe
11-18-2012, 11:09 AM
Chemistry... the Utes never had it this year for some reason.
Look at the rooster of the last Ute team not to go bowling and you will see it was also stacked with talent that never came together... Steve smith, Andre Dyson, Jordan gross. Yada, yada....
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accadacca
11-18-2012, 03:34 PM
1. Because you have no faith in your offense being able to score.
2. Because your defense looks like a swinging gate to the AZ running back and can't stop anyone.
When you give the other team 50-60 free yards, the defense is much worse off.
RedSpecialized
11-18-2012, 08:33 PM
was it just me, or did that game seem like it was coached like a 5 yr old playing madden????
Iceaxe
11-18-2012, 10:16 PM
I have no problem with the fake punt, going on 4th down or the fake field goal.... but I have issues with a RB gaining over 200 yards running right at what is supposed to be the strength of my defense.
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live2ride
11-19-2012, 09:54 AM
all this talk of a strength of defense needs to go away. For hell sakes they were walked all over this year and the only strength of defense they showed was in Pre-Season jargon. Utes need some better coaching and a good off season with the young QB and they will have a better chance but I wouldnt expect them to make some huge leap into the top of the confrence. It is going to take a few years to get up to speed with the other teams.
accadacca
11-19-2012, 10:39 AM
I don't mind the faked field goal. The faked punt or going for 4th and 1 on your own 30-35 in a tie or 6 point game (last week) with 2 quarters to play...stupid.
I watch a lot of football and I don't see that very often. The only time I do is if the team is in a must score situation with under 2:00 to play. Otherwise 90% of the time they punt the ball away.
Iceaxe
11-19-2012, 02:39 PM
Watch a lot of gsmes do ya.... You must have missed the Saints on-side kick to start the second half of the Superbowl.... or just about any team Urban Mayer coaches....
Its not the norm, but if you see a weakness on film you explot it. The fake punt was a good play that should have produced.... it was the shitty pass that caused the turnover on downs.
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rockgremlin
11-19-2012, 05:42 PM
I have no problem with the fake punt, going on 4th down or the fake field goal.... but I have issues with a RB gaining over 200 yards running right at what is supposed to be the strength of my defense.
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Absolutely. He ran right up the middle almost every single time. Meanwhile "Star" and the rest of them stood there befuddled...the only thing upsetting them more than having let the RB run past them was the fact that now they had to run as fast as they could to get to the new line of scrimmage 40 yards away before AZ snapped the ball again.
rockgremlin
11-24-2012, 11:17 AM
Let's just chalk 2012 up to a "rebuilding" year. Their offense is discombobulated, the defense is a mess - where the hell were the Ute's secondary? AS's QB was throwing TDs and 1st downs at will. It was embarrassing. Here's how the remainder of the season will shake out:
Utes will go 6-6....
Oct. 4, vs USC: LOSS
Oct. 13, @ UCLA: LOSS
Oct. 20, @ Oregon State: WIN
Oct. 27, vs. California: WIN
Nov. 3, vs. Washington State: WIN
Nov. 10, @ Washington: LOSS
Nov. 17, vs. Arizona: LOSS
Nov. 23, @ Colorado: WIN
Got em all but the OSU game...I should have played the sportsbook. I could've retired.:lol8:
I can't see the Utes getting better anytime soon - they have a lot of really good seniors leaving. 2013 should be equal to or worse than this year. Maybe next year I'll bet against them.
Iceaxe
11-24-2012, 04:08 PM
Bottom feeders..... sucks...
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