View Full Version : New Update: Green River Predictions
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 01:28 PM
The Yampa/Green River just received a major increase in flow prediction from Flaming Gorge to Green River Utah:
29,000 and 39,000 cubic feet per second at Deerlodge
31,000 - 41,000 cfs near Jensen
46,000 to 61,000 cfs at Green River, Utah
http://www.usbr.gov/newsroom/newsrelease/detail.cfm?RecordID=36162
Dam(n)! The Deso predictions finally make me nervous. That is going to be the biggest, fastest water I have ever seen. I bet we start to see cancelations galore for late-May and early-June.
Be safe out there. This could turn into the biggest water year on the Green of my generation (this would beat out '83-84).
Phillip
Ya I just saw that, that's insane! Sandwash to Swasey's in 8 hours tops
Yampa may 12th permit is open if you can scramble fast enough :)
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 01:43 PM
No way I can put together a trip that fast....damn!
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 02:07 PM
May 30th to June 6th wide open....wonder why:crazycobasa:
Where do you see that? I am looking at http://www.freeyampa.org/dates/
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Sorry, it was in reference to Deso.....only one available for Yampa; none for Lodore
Oh ok I see that, wow that's a lot of cancellations already. Maybe we should be that smart too LOL I am still planning on going, you are launching 27th right?
We might do one or two lay over days, maybe camp by Joe Hutch and watch the carnage. Look for my Maravia, it's green 16 footer with a green bimini and red flag, can't miss it ;)
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 02:47 PM
We will actually launch the 22nd and take off the 27th...probably miss ya
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 02:49 PM
I am thinking we may rent a duckie to run laps from camp....Joe Hutch would be great for that. Normally I am willing to run on my Paco through some rapids but I thinking that would be a bad idea at these flows.
middlefork
05-10-2011, 03:34 PM
:2thumbs: It will be impressive. When we did the Yampa in '83 we launched from the road at Deerlodge. After the Safety check the ranger said "good luck boy's winter rules are in effect. Camp anywhere you can get out of the river.":haha:
Have fun staying on the crown in the middle of the river it was a good 15-20 feet higher than near shore. :eek2: And the eddies are awesome.
restrac2000
05-10-2011, 04:09 PM
I am trying to visual the eddy at upper Cedar Ridge on Deso. That think is going to swallow rigs. Just have to look at the current wood deposited on the downside of the beach to predict how bug it will.
15-20 feet higher? WTF? Sounds like some of the rapids you scout in the Grand. Took a while to acclimatize to looking up at waves even while standing on boulders.
Which I could get a Yampa this year....at the same time....I will also enjoy normal flows and a gingerly float down the canyon when it comes my way. Gotta save some of the rivers for when I get older.
Phillip
Screw saving, we will be dead by then, enjoy it while you can :twisted:
Sagebrusher
05-11-2011, 02:18 PM
wow! I hope anyone going during the peak flows takes ALOT of photos and videos!
I wonder what Cross Mountain Gorge on the Yampa will be like?
middlefork
05-11-2011, 02:55 PM
wow! I hope anyone going during the peak flows takes ALOT of photos and videos!
I wonder what Cross Mountain Gorge on the Yampa will be like?
I understand that is a butt kicker in normal flows!
restrac2000
05-12-2011, 09:45 AM
Deso now has permits available from May 30 to June 11. Watching the cancelations increase everyday (some commercial).
Cross Mountain Gorge? What's that? I bet Split mountain will be raging. There are daily permits available but at this flow you'd be done with the whole thing in 20 mins.
restrac2000
05-12-2011, 10:17 AM
Cross Mt. is a Class V run above the national monument on the Yampa. Looks gorgeous but way out of my league.
middlefork
05-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Alex, Just Google Cross Mountain Gorge and read a little about it :nod: As you come into Deer Lodge and see the river look right and you can see the end of it.
And the 20 minute run on the daily would be totally worth it :stud: Just watch the hole in Moonshine.:twisted:
Oh ok, ya I always looked at that section as I drove into Yampa, looks awesome heh
I've ran Split mountain at 20k, it was fun and furious. Moonshine was huge and pushy. Ingelsby had massive holes on each side. You can scout it on the left or go the manly route on the tongue.
We are putting on the 28th for Deso, so it looks like things could be OK if the outlook here holds.
44477
Peak Flow Predictions @ Green River, UT (as of 5/17/2011):
90% chance of hitting 39,000 cfs
75% chance of hitting 43,000 cfs
50% chance of hitting 47,000 cfs
25% chance of hitting 54,000 cfs
10% chance of hitting 61,000 cfs
Sagebrusher
05-18-2011, 11:25 AM
Based on those predictions, looks like the Big Melt is yet to come
Sagebrusher
06-02-2011, 02:01 PM
Big Melt is coming!!!
Yampa forecast at 36,000 next week. That would be a record stage, slightly higher than 1984. Looks people have cancelled on the 5th, 6th, and 7th
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?ydlc2
http://www.freeyampa.org/dates/
Ya looks like June 9th is going to be the peak. I am going to be on the Green below the dam though. Wish I could cancel that trip and snag a permit on Yampa or Deso. Deso will peak at 50-55k, that canyon never seen a flow that big.
Would be interesting what Colorado will do in a week, if Green will be at 55k, Colorado would have to be 70k to beat the 1984 flood of Cataract of 114k. Doubt that would happen.
Sagebrusher
06-03-2011, 11:43 AM
Ya looks like June 9th is going to be the peak. I am going to be on the Green below the dam though. Wish I could cancel that trip and snag a permit on Yampa or Deso. Deso will peak at 50-55k, that canyon never seen a flow that big.
Would be interesting what Colorado will do in a week, if Green will be at 55k, Colorado would have to be 70k to beat the 1984 flood of Cataract of 114k. Doubt that would happen.
Looks like it will be around 90k. I hope nobody "misses" the confluence like those canoeists did about 10 years ago.
Somebody grabbed the June 7th on the Yampa, but now the 9th is open.
Hmm Lodore 9th is open too, might be a little safer than running Yampa at 35k
Sagebrusher
06-06-2011, 01:33 PM
Big Melt is coming!!!
Yampa forecast at 36,000 next week. That would be a record stage, slightly higher than 1984. Looks people have cancelled on the 5th, 6th, and 7th
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?ydlc2
http://www.freeyampa.org/dates/
Well, looks like the forecast has lowered considerably...but still very high.
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