White Pocket and Coyote Buttes South over New Years Weekend

[ibenick]

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[IntrepidXJ]

Tempting...

[ibenick]

Tempting...

Make it happen Randy! It would be great to meet up with you. You could always try for the in-person Coyote Buttes North lottery and knock that out too.

[dioscuriII]

I drive a 08' 4x4 Tundra. Tires are all-purpose but not great. Think it would be ok?

I would love to go. What is back there?

[ibenick]

I drive a 08' 4x4 Tundra. Tires are all-purpose but not great. Think it would be ok?

I would love to go. What is back there?

You'd be more than fine in a Tundra. Tires should be good too. A lot of people say that partial deflation could be necessary but if you just move fast through the sand you're fine. I'll have a couple of compressors on hand for any deflation/inflation needs. Plus when there's more than one capable vehicle around it's all good if you get a little bogged down. :cool2:

Check out these links on White Pocket and Coyote Buttes South, it's a photographer's paradise!

White Pocket:
http://macdanzigphotography.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/photography-excursion-white-pocket-arizona/
http://www.synnatschke.de/wp/wpocket_e.html
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?41609-Some-pictures-of-White-Pocket-Utah-Arizona-border

Coyote Buttes South:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brentmcguirt/5244030960/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikejonesphoto/4676972459/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/journeywithlight/3913450161/

[Philippe]

Hi,

I would like to join you as I have been loving this area for many years, but that's not so easy to come from France for a week-end.

May I suggest an advice ?
On the last day of your trip in this area, going back to House Rock Valley road, you can spend a couple of hours in an aera of Paw Hole that is seldom visited but that is particularly photogenic (on my opinion) during the last hours of the afternoon (as it is facing west).
You can have a look on these formations on this page (and on the 3 next pages) of my website :
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/COYOTE%20BUTTES%20SOUTH/PAW%20HOLE/index.html

To reach this specific area, you park at Paw Hole trailhead and you circumnavigate the teepees to the left in a northerly direction, following the western edge of the escarpment (by walking in the sand with some brush) for almost 1 mile to reach this formation :
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/COYOTE%20BUTTES%20SOUTH/PAW%20HOLE/slides/Striated%20Butte%20.html
Behind this butte, there is a lot of good stuff to photography.

Philippe

[dioscuriII]

I would say that I am down to go.

[ibenick]

I would say that I am down to go.

Awesome! Email me and we'll work out details. My email address is my bogley username at gmail.com.

[ibenick]

Hi,

I would like to join you as I have been loving this area for many years, but that's not so easy to come from France for a week-end.

May I suggest an advice ?
On the last day of your trip in this area, going back to House Rock Valley road, you can spend a couple of hours in an aera of Paw Hole that is seldom visited but that is particularly photogenic (on my opinion) during the last hours of the afternoon (as it is facing west).
You can have a look on these formations on this page (and on the 3 next pages) of my website :
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/COYOTE%20BUTTES%20SOUTH/PAW%20HOLE/index.html

To reach this specific area, you park at Paw Hole trailhead and you circumnavigate the teepees to the left in a northerly direction, following the western edge of the escarpment (by walking in the sand with some brush) for almost 1 mile to reach this formation :
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/COYOTE%20BUTTES%20SOUTH/PAW%20HOLE/slides/Striated%20Butte%20.html
Behind this butte, there is a lot of good stuff to photography.

Philippe

Looks awesome. Do you have coordinates by chance?

[french_de]

I really like White Pocket. It has the best navajo sandstone brain rocks around. Here is one of my photos taken the last time I was there.

[Philippe]

Looks awesome. Do you have coordinates by chance?

This area is around 36

[ibenick]

Thanks Phillipe. I'll definitely make my way over there.

One more question for you, the BLM reccomends that the road to Paw Hole only be done from east to west due to the steep slope and the sand. From your experience would it really be so tough to go up on the way in? Any worse than the hill getting out of White Pocket?

[Philippe]

One more question for you, the BLM reccomends that the road to Paw Hole only be done from east to west due to the steep slope and the sand. From your experience would it really be so tough to go up on the way in? Any worse than the hill getting out of White Pocket?

In May 2009 (dry weather), I drove from Lone Tree on House Rock Valley Rock to Paw Hole going up the slope with a rental Toyota 4Runner (that had street tires). With a good momentum and 4WD (high, not low) it was OK even if all my stuff was jumping everywhere in my car because of my speed on the sandy tracks. It was longer but not so hard than going up the hill out of White Pocket. It is still harder than it used to be (I drove this dirt road for the first time in 2001) because there are many more vehicules making deep ruts/tracks in the sand : fortunately the Toyota 4Runner had a very good clearance but with a SUV with less clearance as the Ford Explorer I could have been high centered.

Philippe

[dioscuriII]

Awesome! Email me and we'll work out details. My email address is my bogley username at gmail.com.

my bogley username @ gmail.com is a really long email. Hah. Just kiddin'.

[ibenick]

Thanks to the mass of arctic air rolling in on New Years Eve, the low in Kanab is now forecasted to be 5 degrees. That would make it something close to zero out at White Pocket. Guess I have to delay this adventure once again.

[tanya]

Bo and I have been stranded out there. It's a lonely place to be stuck! We went through water and the rover died. Its been snowing like crazy all day!

[americanhero]

Bo and I have been stranded out there. It's a lonely place to be stuck! We went through water and the rover died. Its been snowing like crazy all day!

Reminds me of one of my trips last December. Got stuck in the deep snow with a Wrangler because I lost momentum on one of the hills. But I made it back.
Was there in June as well and never saw so much soft sand in all the years I've been driving to White Pocket. Had to deflate the tires of my Rubicon to 20 PSI. With the reduced tire pressure it was perfect.