Deathcricket
10-19-2010, 10:08 AM
Anyone else been watching this the last couple of days? I guess Gene Simmons issued a statement about wholeheartedly endorsing suing your fans for everything they have (regarding downloading music) and has drawn the wrath of anonymous. They have shut down most of his websites and redirected all of them to pirate bay. genesimmons.net and genesimmons.com are still down and it's been almost a week.
:naughty:
from guardian.co.uk .................... Kiss bassist is bumped offline after comments endorsing aggressive stance against copyright infringement
Never one to bite his tongue (sorry), the public face of Kiss, its bassist Gene Simmons, has become the latest target of assiduous online attackers, Anonymous.
Two of Simmons' official websites, SimmonsRecords.com and GeneSimmons.com, have been hit by the group of activists as an apparent reprisal for insisting that musicians should be far more aggressive in the pursuit of illicit filesharers. The Anonymous group, linked umbilically to influential online forum 4Chan, have forced several websites linked to copyright-protection bodies offline in recent weeks.
The offending comments were made by Simmons on a panel about building a successful entertainment brand. He said on Tuesday: "Make sure your brand is protected. Make sure there are no incursions. Be litigious. Sue everybody. Take their homes, their cars. Don't let anybody cross that line.
"The music industry was asleep at the wheel, and didn't have the balls to sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded material. And so now we're left with hundreds of thousands of people without jobs. There's no industry."
Ouch. You can almost hear Anonymous wheeling around their (illegal) DDoS missiles. And, sure enough, little more than 24 hours later Simmons' online brand has been knocked off the internet.
(Though we have to point out that Simmons has perhaps forgotten about the efforts made by Metallica, for example, which named 300,000 users of Napster back in 2000 and got them kicked off the system. Dr Dre did the same. Asleep at the wheel? Hardly. It's just the flipside of the benefit that being big brought - where the record companies could output something to lots of people at once. When they had to chase individuals, their problem became much bigger.)
As Slyck (http://www.slyck.com/story2085_Anonymous_Strikes_at_KISS_Frontman_Gene_ Simmons_With_DDoS_Attack) rightly points out, the loose-tongued rocker is the latest target of a group which counts the Motion Picture Association of America, Recording Industry Association of America, Copyright Alliance, Ministry of Sound, solicitors' firms DG Legal, ACS:Law and Gallant Macmillan among recent victims. The latter, interestingly, appears to have been too strong to knock offline.
There is, of course, an oft-overlooked voice in the music industry that Rich Huxley pointed out (http://thehuxcapacitor.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/emi-and-sony-are-not-the-music-industry/) .
Huxley, as is most likely with other artists paving new forms of distribution, says: "There has never been a better time to be an enterprising musician," adding: "I am part of the music industries and I want representation."
His point: "There's no way to stop sharing and we shouldn't be striving to do so. That it takes place on the internet just means that in some ways it's track-able and identifiable.
"It's useless and impossible to enforce anti-sharing laws as it's always been the case that humankind finds another way. If sharing music online becomes illegal then people will revert to DVD/hard-drive sharing or find untraceable ways of continuing to to share. Maybe we'll swap CDs with our friends again? Maybe we'll borrow from libraries. To blame the internet is to blame the medium. To quote Steve Lawson 'It's like blaming Microsoft Excel for tax fraud'."
/4/ was somewhat split in it's decision to DDOS Simmons. Ultimately enough anti-simmons momentum prevailed to fire a salvo across his bow. Had he kept his yap shut (something he's obviously incapable of doing) he probably would have squeaked by with a couple of days inconvenience.
Once he issued his bogus--"Our legal team and the FBI have been on the case....." with it's threats of prosecutions and jail time....well let's just say whatever happens now is ALL on him now.
Skip to 32:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrY5DfRXQ1Y&feature=player_embedded#!
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/aeonnz/animated/kraken.gif
:naughty:
from guardian.co.uk .................... Kiss bassist is bumped offline after comments endorsing aggressive stance against copyright infringement
Never one to bite his tongue (sorry), the public face of Kiss, its bassist Gene Simmons, has become the latest target of assiduous online attackers, Anonymous.
Two of Simmons' official websites, SimmonsRecords.com and GeneSimmons.com, have been hit by the group of activists as an apparent reprisal for insisting that musicians should be far more aggressive in the pursuit of illicit filesharers. The Anonymous group, linked umbilically to influential online forum 4Chan, have forced several websites linked to copyright-protection bodies offline in recent weeks.
The offending comments were made by Simmons on a panel about building a successful entertainment brand. He said on Tuesday: "Make sure your brand is protected. Make sure there are no incursions. Be litigious. Sue everybody. Take their homes, their cars. Don't let anybody cross that line.
"The music industry was asleep at the wheel, and didn't have the balls to sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded material. And so now we're left with hundreds of thousands of people without jobs. There's no industry."
Ouch. You can almost hear Anonymous wheeling around their (illegal) DDoS missiles. And, sure enough, little more than 24 hours later Simmons' online brand has been knocked off the internet.
(Though we have to point out that Simmons has perhaps forgotten about the efforts made by Metallica, for example, which named 300,000 users of Napster back in 2000 and got them kicked off the system. Dr Dre did the same. Asleep at the wheel? Hardly. It's just the flipside of the benefit that being big brought - where the record companies could output something to lots of people at once. When they had to chase individuals, their problem became much bigger.)
As Slyck (http://www.slyck.com/story2085_Anonymous_Strikes_at_KISS_Frontman_Gene_ Simmons_With_DDoS_Attack) rightly points out, the loose-tongued rocker is the latest target of a group which counts the Motion Picture Association of America, Recording Industry Association of America, Copyright Alliance, Ministry of Sound, solicitors' firms DG Legal, ACS:Law and Gallant Macmillan among recent victims. The latter, interestingly, appears to have been too strong to knock offline.
There is, of course, an oft-overlooked voice in the music industry that Rich Huxley pointed out (http://thehuxcapacitor.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/emi-and-sony-are-not-the-music-industry/) .
Huxley, as is most likely with other artists paving new forms of distribution, says: "There has never been a better time to be an enterprising musician," adding: "I am part of the music industries and I want representation."
His point: "There's no way to stop sharing and we shouldn't be striving to do so. That it takes place on the internet just means that in some ways it's track-able and identifiable.
"It's useless and impossible to enforce anti-sharing laws as it's always been the case that humankind finds another way. If sharing music online becomes illegal then people will revert to DVD/hard-drive sharing or find untraceable ways of continuing to to share. Maybe we'll swap CDs with our friends again? Maybe we'll borrow from libraries. To blame the internet is to blame the medium. To quote Steve Lawson 'It's like blaming Microsoft Excel for tax fraud'."
/4/ was somewhat split in it's decision to DDOS Simmons. Ultimately enough anti-simmons momentum prevailed to fire a salvo across his bow. Had he kept his yap shut (something he's obviously incapable of doing) he probably would have squeaked by with a couple of days inconvenience.
Once he issued his bogus--"Our legal team and the FBI have been on the case....." with it's threats of prosecutions and jail time....well let's just say whatever happens now is ALL on him now.
Skip to 32:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrY5DfRXQ1Y&feature=player_embedded#!
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/aeonnz/animated/kraken.gif