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Spooky
07-08-2010, 02:26 PM
I just have canyoneering/hiking people (other than my kids) on mine and almost no one I actually know. Sometimes I just like to talk to strangers. :haha:


Rumors are bad enough already without being friends with people I know!

Hahaha! You and me, both. Gossip is incredible in Utah. I've never seen anything like it. I lived in Nephi for 2 years (total hell) and moved away understanding the true meaning of small town gossip and hypocritical religious people. Gack! I wasn't Mormon and I had men in and out of my house, and you know how it goes, that meant I was such a druggie slut. Nobody knew that they were my brothers but that wouldn't have changed any opinions.... :lol8:

I wish I could burn down Farmville. And bomb Mafia everything. :nod:

Scott Card
07-08-2010, 03:25 PM
Hahaha! You and me, both. Gossip is incredible in Utah. I've never seen anything like it. I lived in Nephi for 2 years (total hell) and moved away understanding the true meaning of small town gossip and hypocritical religious people. Gack! I wasn't Mormon and I had men in and out of my house, and you know how it goes, that meant I was such a druggie slut. Nobody knew that they were my brothers but that wouldn't have changed any opinions.... :lol8:

I wish I could burn down Farmville. And bomb Mafia everything. :nod:
Nephi....hmmmm. You should have told them you were a progressive polygamist with all the men. :haha:

I go to court in Nephi all the time. I know what you are saying because I hear it from my clients almost without exception. I happen to be a Mormon and I am pretty sure I would not do too well living in Nephi either. My experience is that gossip is typical in any small town, anywhere. Not just in Utah.

denaliguide
07-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Sometimes I just like to talk to strangers.

no one stranger than me, i hope. :lol8:

Spooky
07-08-2010, 05:42 PM
My experience is that gossip is typical in any small town, anywhere. Not just in Utah.

Oh geez louise, don't get me started. :twisted:

I lived in several small towns in Idaho, Washington and Montana, and what Nephi had on all those towns was the religious discrimination on top of the gossip. As in, if you're not Mormon, you're bad.

I'm sure other small towns in religious areas like the Bible belt are the same way, but don't think for a minute that your fellow Mormons don't discriminate because they're such good people. Ha! The thought makes me laugh. :lol8:

Serious. The neighbors wouldn't let their kids in my house because I wasn't LDS. A single mom so they assumed I was on welfare and drugging it up. A friend of mine who worked at the welfare dept. called me more than once to tell me neighbors had turned me in for welfare fraud. I wan't on welfare. Crazy! My mom owned the gossip central shop in town and nobody knew she was my mom, so I heard a good portion of the crap my neighbors were thinking and telling their kids and each other. Those guys coming in and out of my apartment? Druggie lovers. I probably had AIDS because I came from Seattle. My kids probably had no morals or ethics because I wasn't Mormon. And oh, one parent said they couldn't allow their kids at my house because I drank coffee. Baaaaaad!!! Hahaha!

I had all kinds of Mormon friends in other states and they never behaved like that.

Too bad, too, because I love small towns and I love Utah. But my experience with small town Mormons will never be forgotten and I would never put my kids through anything like that again. They were teased unmercifully for not being baptized when they turned 8 for hell's sake. :roll:

If I'd ever been tempted to be Mormon, Nephi fixed me. For good. I would never, ever, ever consider being LDS after seeing how the church treats those who aren't members. When Spencer Kimball admonished Mormons about this behavior during his conference speech, I literally jumped up and cheered.

Would you let your kids play at the neighbors house, if she was a single mom, drank coffee and wasn't Mormon? Yah. That's what I thought. :wink:

Jaxx
07-12-2010, 11:12 AM
Wow Spooky! I don't blame you for feeling that way. There does seem to be alot of gossip though. It bugs me to.
Just for the record 2 of my girls have best friends that aren't mormon. I let them go over to their friends house and their parents even drink beer!!!!! So not all mormons are that mean.

Pelon1
07-12-2010, 07:59 PM
When Spencer Kimball admonished Mormons about this behavior during his conference speech, I literally jumped up and cheered.

I am a non active member and bought my house 6 years ago in a great neighborhood in St George, and have not met any of my neighbors because we don't go to church, I even work with the bishop. But we live "in sin" so I am not bothered by it too much. Kind of nice not having to deal with any of the neighborhood BS. So its still going on. But WHATEVER.....:cry1:

Spooky
07-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Wow Spooky! I don't blame you for feeling that way. There does seem to be alot of gossip though. It bugs me to.
Just for the record 2 of my girls have best friends that aren't mormon. I let them go over to their friends house and their parents even drink beer!!!!! So not all mormons are that mean.
:mrgreen:

Nephi is in a league of its own when it comes to gossip, believe me. The men coming to my apartment were my brothers but since we all had last names people just assumed the worst. Besides, gossip is apparently fun. :haha:

Since we moved to the SL valley, I haven't had those problems. There is one family on our street that won't let their kids over because we're not LDS (the kids told us that). But otherwise, it's been great.

And Mormons outside of Utah are freaking awesome. Tolerant because they're usually the minority.

Jaxx
07-13-2010, 09:55 AM
And Mormons outside of Utah are freaking awesome. Tolerant because they're usually the minority.

That is true. When I lived in Texas there wasn't another mormon for miles!

Pelon1: when you said "live in sin" all I could think of was church lady from snl.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnCZxLvYXI8

uintahiker
07-13-2010, 10:22 AM
I grew up in a small town in Utah. On the one hand, it was a great place to grow up. On the other hand, there certainly is a downside to knowing everybody and their dogs.

:haha: I heard they're cancelling all of the high school dances up there next year because everyone is now officially related now that Bobby Sue and Jimmy got married.

I've also concluded that small towns breed small minds. They're great to be from, but it should be a requirement that you move away for at least 5 years if you want to settle down there.

Scott Card
07-13-2010, 12:28 PM
I've also concluded that small towns breed small minds. They're great to be from, but it should be a requirement that you move away for at least 5 years if you want to settle down there. Ding, Ding, Ding.... winner. :nod: Best thing I ever did was go on a mission to Brazil, live in San Antonio, Live in Los Angeles THEN move back to Utah to stay.

accadacca
07-13-2010, 12:47 PM
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Deathcricket
07-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Interesting. I had a similar experience but it kinda made me feel warm and fuzzy good, not bad. I recently went through a nasty divorce last year. Not nasty like us yelling and screaming or anything like that, just lots of litigation and court time meaning... Anyways I was walking by my neighbors.. Well maybe not neighbors... Like a half mile away and 5 streets up... Anyways, she had a dog and I had a dog so they were playing together and we got to talking. First question was "what ward do you go to?" 2nd question was "where do you live?" and after I answered that, she knew everything about me! She then mentioned they had a "meeting" about me one night a couple months ago. They knew I was going through hard times emotionally and wanted to reach out to me, but at the same time they didn't want to seem imposing or "overstepping bounds" to a non believer. But they debated having some members come over and help with cleaning, cooking, yard maintenance, etc. Just because they thought I had a lot on my plate and it was a nice thing to do in times of need. Even if I didn't ask for said help.

But in the end they decided to just watch and wait. And if it looked like I was falling behind and hadn't mowed the lawn (for instance), to send help over and offer. So it was creepy that they noticed I mowed my lawn every sunday, washed my cars on Saturday, etc, and were watching for changes in my schedule to be able to offer assistance. But at the same time I felt really blessed to have such nice neighbors who saw potentially a person in need and wanted to do something about it. The thing that really freaked me out though is how far away from my house this lady lived and STILL knew who I was. She knew my occupation, my schedule, how many kids I had, etc... But overall I think it was an awesome experience. I still don't know my neighbors to the extent they know me. I guess I don't care really, but don't mind that they do.

Jaxx
07-13-2010, 03:56 PM
I talk trash about you all the time Deathcricket.

blueeyes
07-13-2010, 04:52 PM
I talk trash about you all the time Deathcricket.:lol8:

Scott Card
07-13-2010, 04:55 PM
Are all of you still coming to our monthly Deathcricket meeting at Rubios next week? :haha:

denaliguide
07-13-2010, 06:06 PM
Deathcricket. one word. stalker!

Spooky
07-13-2010, 09:11 PM
I can't believe someone made this my thread with the title "Mormon Gossip." :facepalm:

This must be karma for putting a user on my forum on Tachy Goes Coventry just for the sheer entertainment value.

blueeyes
07-13-2010, 09:28 PM
It is a great topic! You should be proud.

uintahiker
07-14-2010, 07:47 AM
Best thing I ever did was ... live in San Antonio.


How did you like SA? Potentially moving there for work in the near future.

I moved to Colorado for grad school. The options were Fort Collins or Happy Valley. As the saying goes "Friends don't let friends go to BYU." Moving to Colorado has been one of the best things I've done.

I think everyone should move away from family for at least a few years. If you're married than you should DEFINITELY move away- at least for a year or two. Furthermore, it's one of those things that you don't really understand until after you do it.

Don
07-14-2010, 09:01 AM
Wow, Jake, man I'm not sure how I'd feel about having those neighbors. It seems really creepy, but on the other hand while going through a divorce a couple years ago I really could have used a caring neighbor (or at least a neighbor who would disable his automatic sprinkers if I were passed out in his yard).

Jaxx
07-14-2010, 09:46 AM
Wow, Jake, man I'm not sure how I'd feel about having those neighbors.

Ya, I am wondering how they knew all that stuff about you!

Deathcricket
07-14-2010, 03:22 PM
Ya, I am wondering how they knew all that stuff about you!

The one right across the street noticed a moving truck and made the mistake of offering her assistance. Then my Psycho Ex told him she was just getting "her stuff" and to mind his own business, kinda bit his head off. I went over a couple hours later, apologized for her rudeness, and asked if he ever saw her car in front of my house again to call me or the police (I like to go canyoneering and hiking ya know). He apparently informed everyone within a 2 mile radius of the situation. :lol8:

Not like I wanted it a big secret or was upset about it. I was just surprised at his thoroughness. For the record, I'll take neighbors who "overly care" over neighbors who don't care any day. I'm just not a neighbor who actually cares myself, haha.

Deathcricket
07-14-2010, 03:29 PM
Oh and since there at Mormons in the "network" reading this. I will be gone this weekend, so I switched my lawn mowing day to Wednesday this week. My brother will be taking care of my pitbull, he drives a blue compact car. And yes, I see some weeds on the right side of the driveway, probably get to those next week, no cause for concern.:haha:

Cirrus2000
07-14-2010, 04:16 PM
Oh and since there at Mormons in the "network" reading this. I will be gone this weekend, so I switched my lawn mowing day to Wednesday this week. My brother will be taking care of my pitbull, he drives a blue compact car. And yes, I see some weeds on the right side of the driveway, probably get to those next week, no cause for concern.:haha:

:roflol: :roflol: :nono:

Spooky
07-14-2010, 07:56 PM
Oh and since there at Mormons in the "network" reading this. I will be gone this weekend, so I switched my lawn mowing day to Wednesday this week. My brother will be taking care of my pitbull, he drives a blue compact car. And yes, I see some weeds on the right side of the driveway, probably get to those next week, no cause for concern.:haha:

:lol8:

We may be those kind of neighbors.

When we hadn't seen an elderly neighbor out in her yard for a few days, we investigated and found out she'd had a stroke. My boys cut her lawn and picked her weeds for quite a few months. She always insisted they accept a check that she'd write out for $5. My boys always put the checks back in her mailbox.

I have to admit that the darker side of my mind wondered where the Mormon kids were.... :hsugh:

I know, I know...bitchy. I did say it was the darker side of my mind.

Don
07-14-2010, 10:00 PM
Oh and since there at Mormons in the "network" reading this. I will be gone this weekend, so I switched my lawn mowing day to Wednesday this week. My brother will be taking care of my pitbull, he drives a blue compact car. And yes, I see some weeds on the right side of the driveway, probably get to those next week, no cause for concern.:haha:


:roflol:Actually laughing out loud alone in my apartment. Nice.

Sombeech
07-15-2010, 11:29 AM
I have to admit that the darker side of my mind wondered where the Mormon kids were.... :hsugh:

The red alarm that usually rings in the church when somebody has a stroke - it was down for maintenance that week. :haha:

dbaxter
07-17-2010, 07:55 AM
(or at least a neighbor who would disable his automatic sprinkers if I were passed out in his yard).
Is there a story behind this? - I can relate...:haha:

snccoulter
07-17-2010, 10:03 AM
We had the same type of experience when we first moved into our home in Layton my wife was watching my son at the park and the "Ladies" came over to talk to her while the kids played he was 2 1/2 ish and once the "Ladies" found out that she was not Mormon my kid was not allowed to play with them. Cayla use to like the area till then now she just wants to leave. The neighbors in Syracuse are nice but still Mormon and you can feel it. We have done our best to be good Christians and not have any hard feelings but when there is a kids party you should invite the neighbor kids especially if there is nothing but a chain link fence separating the yards kids don't understand paradigms that is being shown.. I could care less that someone does not want to hang out with me I have my self confidence but involve my kids and my teeth come out and the hackles raise. The one thing that is the real issue is that we don't want to have the kids have to deal with the public school system and the Mormon religion.

Don
07-17-2010, 11:17 AM
Is there a story behind this? - I can relate...:haha:

Yeah, 6 months after I got home from my second year in Iraq my wife moved out. I really drank too much for the next 6 months or so.

Jaxx
07-19-2010, 10:47 AM
We had the same type of experience when we first moved into our home in Layton my wife was watching my son at the park and the "Ladies" came over to talk to her while the kids played he was 2 1/2 ish and once the "Ladies" found out that she was not Mormon my kid was not allowed to play with them. Cayla use to like the area till then now she just wants to leave. The neighbors in Syracuse are nice but still Mormon and you can feel it. We have done our best to be good Christians and not have any hard feelings but when there is a kids party you should invite the neighbor kids especially if there is nothing but a chain link fence separating the yards kids don't understand paradigms that is being shown.. I could care less that someone does not want to hang out with me I have my self confidence but involve my kids and my teeth come out and the hackles raise. The one thing that is the real issue is that we don't want to have the kids have to deal with the public school system and the Mormon religion.

I'm sorry to hear about this. I can't believe people act like that. Not very Christ-like.

Scott Card
07-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Oh and since there at Mormons in the "network" reading this. I will be gone this weekend, so I switched my lawn mowing day to Wednesday this week. My brother will be taking care of my pitbull, he drives a blue compact car. And yes, I see some weeds on the right side of the driveway, probably get to those next week, no cause for concern.:haha:

:lol8: Now if I were anywhere near, I would pull those weeds while you were gone.

Scott Card
07-19-2010, 11:00 AM
We had the same type of experience when we first moved into our home in Layton my wife was watching my son at the park and the "Ladies" came over to talk to her while the kids played he was 2 1/2 ish and once the "Ladies" found out that she was not Mormon my kid was not allowed to play with them. Cayla use to like the area till then now she just wants to leave. The neighbors in Syracuse are nice but still Mormon and you can feel it. We have done our best to be good Christians and not have any hard feelings but when there is a kids party you should invite the neighbor kids especially if there is nothing but a chain link fence separating the yards kids don't understand paradigms that is being shown.. I could care less that someone does not want to hang out with me I have my self confidence but involve my kids and my teeth come out and the hackles raise. The one thing that is the real issue is that we don't want to have the kids have to deal with the public school system and the Mormon religion. The way you have described this makes me sad. I guess I will continue to rant about this at church. You are not the first nor will you be the last to experience this. If it is any consolation, this happens in the Bible belt or any other place where one religion tends to dominate the population. I have Mormon friends who were in essense shunned in Baptist country in the South. Not an excuse for the behavior just sayin' that people are people no matter where you find them. Cliques are cliques no matter where you live.

Deathcricket
07-19-2010, 11:38 AM
:lol8: Now if I were anywhere near, I would pull those weeds while you were gone.

:lol8::lol8::lol8: That actually would have been hilarious

Scott Card
07-19-2010, 05:27 PM
How did you like SA? Potentially moving there for work in the near future.



Oops. Missed this question. My wife and I moved there just after we were married. I really liked San Antonio. Best Mexican food ever. I found the people generally friendly. The first gas station I went into to pay for the gas, the attendant just talked and talked and talked.... I had a best friend! We lived next to an elderly lady in the apartment complex and she was great. Overall, I quite liked Texas. It didn't hurt that BYU had just laid a whoopin on U.T. that year. :lol8: