View Full Version : Conditions Snow! WTF?!
accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:03 AM
I have an inch on the ground already and still coming. I just got my garden and tons of flowers planted. F*ck!
How much cold and snow will kill my plants?
accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:05 AM
Shhhhhhhhit!
blueeyes
05-24-2010, 07:06 AM
Ummm I sense that you are a bit upset by this latest weather pattern. :nod:
dbaxter
05-24-2010, 07:36 AM
This is Strawberry Res this morning!!
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Sombeech
05-24-2010, 07:43 AM
I thought I was wayyyyyy safe planting my tomatoes only last week. I'll have to give them a little TLC when I get home.
My Wysteria blooms have already been out for a few weeks, I thought we were in the clear.
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accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:48 AM
I thought I was wayyyyyy safe planting my tomatoes only last week. I'll have to give them a little TLC when I get home.
TLC? Like what? It is supposed to get up to the 50's, but will having my stuff covered in snow this long kill it?
accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:50 AM
This is Strawberry Res this morning!!
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Oh hell. I was supposed to go up there fishing tomorrow. Wonder if it will melt? Do you think its worth it or should I bag it?
Its dumping like a mofo up (that's right.. Utah County is up not down) here near Provo Canyon
Pelon1
05-24-2010, 07:53 AM
Oh hell. I was supposed to go up there fishing tomorrow. Wonder if it will melt? Do you think its worth it or should I bag it?
Not sure, my Dad is up there he is in charge of all the campgrounds, he has a facebook site that this pic came from its called "Strawberry Lake in Utah" and he keeps it pretty well updated.
accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:54 AM
Its dumping like a mofo up (that's right.. Utah County is up not down) here near Provo Canyon
Nah...its clearly down. :lol8:
accadacca
05-24-2010, 07:56 AM
Not sure, my Dad is up there he is in charge of all the campgrounds, he has a facebook site that this pic came from its called "Strawberry Lake in Utah" and he keeps it pretty well updated.
If you don't mind getting me some more info it would be great. It is supposed to be okay tomorrow, but I don't want snow on the ground. PM me if you can find out any more info, including fishing conditions and which campground and areas, etc. Thanks in advance.
Sombeech
05-24-2010, 08:42 AM
TLC? Like what? It is supposed to get up to the 50's, but will having my stuff covered in snow this long kill it?
You might be able to throw a quick tarp over them. Are they caged already? At least give them some miracle gro when you get home, possibly with root stimulant. There's a good chance they'll recover.
It's actually not snowing up here in the Roy area.
Usually my Magnolia blooms are hurt by the frost, but they've bloomed and already fallen off by the time this snow came. Whatever Al Gore is doing, he needs to back it off a bit to get us back to normal.
Ih8grvty
05-24-2010, 09:19 AM
First, I gotta say, Beech, how old is that wisteria vine?
I had one in at my moms for four years now and while its huge, took over the deck and hand rail, it has a total of 7 flowers on it! grows very well, about 10 feet on several shoots each year but no flowers till now and now there are 7? WTF indeed!
Putting one in at my house this summer on an arbor and maybe on a pergola if I get it built this summer. What did you do different than me to make yours so damned nice?!
spill the tips man! Normally I plant anything and it turns out great, in High school I grew some 7 foot plants in my closet in a matter of about 45 days and had them flowering and sticky before day 60, I know how to grow!
at this point i have to say when mom smelled them and found them when I was out one day the trouble I ended up in when I got home was enormous! In fact now at 39 years old I think I might still be grounded over that one, but I was able to sit down long before my dad told me I would be able to do so!
As to teh snow, yeah my house too! I however watch to much weather and do some amateur research on my own, my plants are still in my storage room, under grow lights and by the window, in green house boxes. Not safe to put them in the ground yet! The tomatoes are in 5 gallon pots, being watered and fertilized, not feeling safe to put them outside just yet!
normally I put plants in on mothers day weekend and know i am safe, but this year... Normally I only worry about frost and over night temps, but never thought Id wake up to the snow i have in Tooele today! Down town was not bad, but the bench where I live had half an inch when I woke up at 6 and looked out the window, melting off now, but still got about half an inch left to melt, and maybe slightly over an inch before it started melting off.
Hoping the 3 day weekend coming up is a safe bet for planting these int eh ground!
If you have them in ground already, pound some stakes in the ground in a row around plants, keep them about 6 inches higher than the plants next to them, then cover the stake tops with some plastic sheeting, and put rocks or bricks or something on the edges against the ground to keep them from caving in or blowing away.
A small snow storm that melts off fast shouldnt kill your plants, but might slow them up, if they are covered for a few hours...you might be starting from scratch. Tomatoes your best bet is walls o water or something close to that to save them. blooms and blossoms are whats most affected by the cold, they die first, a while longer and the plant dies too.
Been busy on the yard for the last month or so, not alot of time to sit at the computer, but as yard work starts winding down ( I had no yard after a move this last fall so its been a field and starting from scratch) and beds get planted and a lawn gets put in I will be around more often, with todays snow, hell, I might have nothign to do and be here all the time!
Spooky
05-24-2010, 09:27 AM
Geez louise, I just planted all my annuals. My strawberries are either in bloom or forming berries. We planted tomatoes, too. WTF?!!! It's almost June!
Scott Card
05-24-2010, 09:38 AM
I still haven't planted my garden yet due to the low daytime temps. Glad I haven't too. I think the greenhouses must be loving this. More plants to sell.
I closed the blinds in my office. I can't stand to watch it snow. :cry1:
Spooky
05-24-2010, 09:40 AM
I closed the blinds in my office. I can't stand to watch it snow. :cry1:
Me, too. :lol8:
We didn't put our veggie garden in either, because of rain. I'm glad now, but a few hundred bucks worth of annuals may bite it. :roll:
accadacca
05-24-2010, 09:41 AM
...a few hundred bucks worth of annuals may bite it. :roll:
Ditto. :angryfire:
Ih8grvty
05-24-2010, 10:35 AM
Clear and cold tonight.
Small amount of snow might actually help insulate the plants from cold, if they made it through that, Cover the veggies tonight before you head in for bed. You may still make it with out replanting if you do so.
Maters, peppers, eggplant, all the fruit bearing from blossoms veggies, get them covered now, you may well still make it with out replanting.
depending on the annuals i had out, Id consider covering them as well tonight, might save you alot of cash to replant and alot of work as well.
Next cold storm that could kill them and bring another cold over night is due to hit us thursday if the news is correct.
Sombeech
05-24-2010, 10:54 AM
First, I gotta say, Beech, how old is that wisteria vine?
Wysteria begins to bloom on average at @ 7 years old. This is my first year with "real" blooms. Now I'm waiting on my Tulip tree which takes 3 years, so hopefully next year it will bloom.
Ih8grvty
05-24-2010, 12:53 PM
Seven years old??!!!!
Damn.
I do not plan to be living here in that much time, not planting one here! Must mean I did it all right to get any blooms on the one thats 4 years old!
yours however is beautiful, I look forward to the day i like my home enough to commit to 7 years of waiting to have something like that in my yard.
rockgremlin
05-24-2010, 05:30 PM
Time to rub it in the noses of the Global Warming theorists...
Late spring snowstorm surprises Utahns
May 24th, 2010 @ 4:59pm
SALT LAKE CITY -- Many Utahns woke up to a blanket of snow Monday morning. The wet and slushy weather caused a few problems throughout the day, but the late storm was mostly an inconvenience.
Record-setting late snowfall
The storm produced the latest spring snow ever recorded at Salt Lake City International Airport. It arrived late Sunday night and produced huge, heavy snowflakes as Salt Lake City commuters arrived for work Monday morning.
Much of the snow on the valley roads either didn't stick or quickly melted away.
The Wasatch Mountains got significant snow for this time of year. Nine inches were reported at Brighton. By late-morning, the most powerful parts of the storm had moved to the east. At the Salt Lake City airport, .2 inches fell. Before Monday, the latest measurable spring snow at the airport was May 18 when half an inch fell in 1977 and one inch fell in 1960.
Storm is good news for snowpack
Monday's storm came as good news for those keeping track of the state's water supply. "Rain on snow produces more runoff than smowmelt alone, so we're getting a lot more water into our creeks and reservoirs than we would with snowmelt alone," explained Randy Julander, snow survey supervisor with the Natural Resources Conservation Service. A cooler spring has the snowpack sitting around average levels for this time of year. Julander hopes the wet weather will continue into June to build up our water supply and put off irrigation season until July. "When you save a month and a half or two months worth of water, that results in larger carryover into the fall," Julander said. "So, this is all money in the bank and water that we'll be able to use later in the season, or carry it over into next year."
Weather frustrates golfers, gardeners
Despite the water benefits, many people KSL News talked to were disappointed with the snow, saying they are more than ready for warmer weather. "It should've been gone a long time ago. It should be almost summer now," said Salt Lake City resident Jeremy Miller, who spent the morning scraping snow off of his car. Miller works at a golf course. The snow means no work for him, bat also no golfers on the green.
"The nice days are really busy; and the other days, well, there's not going to be anyone there today," Miller said. He isn't the only one fed up with the rain and snow. Jack Wilbur, with the Utah Fruit and Vegetable Association hopes his vegetables pull through this cold snap. "Snow on May 24th is pretty crazy," Wilbur said. "It's been so cold for so long, it's really hard to grow anything. Things are growing slowly." Wilbur planted his tomatoes in cans this year, which adds an extra layer of protection for the baby plants. At this rate, the vegetables need all the help they can get. "If it stays cool, it will just take longer for things to mature," Wilbur said. The cold isn't doing any favors for Wilbur's fruit trees either. "We worry maybe we didn't get pollinated because the bees couldn't do their work," Wilbur said. He said he's still expecting a good crop but won't know for a couple more weeks how well his fruit trees will do. "I'm so tired of this weather," Wilbur said. "I can't wait for it to get nice and sunny and warm."
Storm causes mudslide on I-80
The winter storm also caused a mudslide along Interstate 80 near 2300 East Monday morning. The slide is just off the right side of the westbound lanes and looks like a large half pipe going down the hillside. All the moisture from the rain and snow caused a 50-foot section of dirt to slide. Adan Carrillo, spokesman for the Utah Department of Transportation, said a lot of water was draining down the hillside there. It became oversaturated and gave way. "The road itself is sound, but we did experience some major drainage issues down that slope," Carrillo said. Road crews spent the day working to help keep any additional water from draining down the slide. As of noon, water still could be seen bubbling down the hillside. "We don't believe there will be any impacts to the roadway. However, we have installed some orange barrels around the shoulder to keep people from parking around the area because we just want to take the extra measure of caution," Carrillo said. Some of the mud made its way to the outer edge of the Salt Lake Country Club golf course below. Carrillo said UDOT crews will clean up all the debris. He also said UDOT engineers will close the far right lane of westbound traffic so they can bring in a crane. It will place large boulders deep into the hillside to prevent any more dirt from sliding. In a few days, when the hillside dries up, it will fix the problem. "We're going to come back and make this more stable. We'll keep working with the golf course officials to clear it up and keep it from happening again," Carrillo says.
Storm sets more records across the state
The record-low temperatures for May 24 were set in Alpine, Bountiful and Bullfrog.
Cedar City got a half-inch of snow Sunday night, though most of the storm's moisture fell in central and northern Utah. Several areas got an inch or more of rain, including Bountiful, Cottonwood Heights, Tooele, Provo and Dry Fork. Other snow totals included seven inches at Suncrest, five inches near Peoa in Summit County and three inches at Upper Millcreek.
Scott P
05-24-2010, 06:09 PM
Cool record.
It snowed here too, but it's long gone. It was really windy and the snow/rain was really dirty as well and left mud on the cars. It's not unusual to snow this time of year here (2008 we had a nice snowstorm June 11), but it broke a record at the SLC airport for latest measurable snowfall where it is unusual.
For any weather nerds out there, here are some stats on the snowfall in SLC:
The 0.2 inches of snow that fell at the SLC airport was the latest measurable snowfall at the airport (see above).
The latest non-measurable snowfall (the snow did not stick) at the SLC airport was a trace amount on June 30 1968.
The latest measurable snowfall for the east bench of SLC is June 16.
Despite the late snow record, the 0.2 inches of snow puts SLC at still below average for May snowfall (33% of average). The last time May has had above normal snowfall was in 1993 when 1.7 inches of snow fell. All other years since then have been below average. In 1975, 7.5 inces of snow fell in May at the airport. Several years have seen more than a foot of snow fall on the benches (the May storms of 1975 and 1983 were two of the heaviest). June has had several measurable snowfalls above 4500 feet, so the benches might not be out of the woods yet.
In addition to the records listed above, the 33F in SLC was a record low as well. So was the 15F in Brighton.
The latest frost in SLC was on June 6 1914, but in more recent decades, it was May 28 1954.
mattandersao
05-24-2010, 07:00 PM
article for all you in the northern country worried about your veggies (I just got done picking two garbage bags filled to the brim with peas!) http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15150480
Nuts :haha: I'm sitting here in 90* weather and have been for some time :cool2:
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