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Alex
04-28-2010, 12:23 PM
I swear we get 2-3 of these a year. Bo has been busy this year already.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10564398


ZION NATIONAL PARK, Utah (AP) -- Zion National Park officials say a woman died after falling 1,000 feet from a rocky overlook.
Hikers reported the fall late Tuesday afternoon. Park officials say the woman was hiking alone on the trail to Angel's Landing and fell in an area called Scout Lookout. Her body was spotted on a ledge about 1,000 feet below.
With darkness approaching Tuesday night, rangers decided to postpone the recovery effort. On Wednesday morning, a team crossed the fast-moving Virgin River and conducted a technical climb to the ledge where the woman's body was recovered.
Officials say they believe she was in her 60s. They have not yet confirmed her identity.
Park officials and the Washington County Sheriff's Office are investigating.

DiscGo
04-28-2010, 12:37 PM
I feel guilty that I read this and feel put out, knowing that this is the 3rd woman to fall off of the Angels Landing hike in the last year to die, and I realize this is going to impact me eventually by having the park close it, or drastically change it. I wish this woman's loved ones well.

Don
04-28-2010, 01:36 PM
I feel guilty that I read this and feel put out, knowing that this is the 3rd woman to fall off of the Angels Landing hike in the last year to die, and I realize this is going to impact me eventually by having the park close it, or drastically change it. I wish this woman's loved ones well.

I don't even feel guilty about it. If it were a cave in Utah Valley it would have been cemented shut already. I wish there were a way to tell her that along with everything else this mistake cost her, others will pay a price as well.

Bo_Beck
04-28-2010, 02:33 PM
I swear we get 2-3 of these a year. Bo has been busy this year already.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10564398

Yep! 3 in the last 3 days! Crossed the river this morning twice at 500+ CFS. Great flow for kayakers, but make sure you know what you're doing. The water is cold and swift!

Iceaxe
04-28-2010, 04:19 PM
Crossed the river this morning twice at 500+ CFS.

Impossible! the rangers said you can't even stand up in the Virgin at 200 cfs.

:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Iceaxe
04-28-2010, 04:43 PM
I found this little tid-bit to be very interesting. :popcorn:

A hiking fatality Tuesday at Zion National Park adds to a list of fatalities since the park's establishment as Makuntaweap National Monument on July 31, 1909 by President William Taft. According to the National Park Service, the following fatalities have been recorded on the park's trails:

Emerald Pools: 7

Angels Landing: 5+

Lady Mountain: 2+

Canyon Overlook: 2

Hidden Canyon: 2

Observation Point: 2

Watchman: 2

Cathedral Mountain: 1

Checkerboard Mesa: 1

Crazy Quilt Mesa: 1

Deer Trap Mountain: 1

East Rim Trail: 1

Mt. Kinesava: 1

Mt. of the Sun: 1

Source: National Park Service Web site, www.nps.gov/zion (http://www.nps.gov/zion)
From: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14975623

Scott P
04-28-2010, 05:29 PM
According to the National Park Service, the following fatalities have been recorded on the park's trails


The list is not comprehensive. There have been many more deaths than listed above. The list above includes trail-less areas such as Cathedral Mountain or Mt. Kinesava, but eliminates other deaths on other routes. For example, most unfortunately, a canyoneer was killed in Heaps Canyon a couple years ago. The worse hiking disaster in Zion National Park was when five hikers were killed by a flash flood in the Zion Narrows. There is also the Kolob Creek disaster, but I guess that one was technically on the border. These are just a few of the deaths not listed above. Unfortunately, there are more.

ratagonia
04-28-2010, 05:58 PM
The list is not comprehensive. There have been many more deaths than listed above. The list above includes trail-less areas such as Cathedral Mountain or Mt. Kinesava, but eliminates other deaths on other routes. For example, most unfortunately, a canyoneer was killed in Heaps Canyon a couple years ago. The worse hiking disaster in Zion National Park was when five hikers were killed by a flash flood in the Zion Narrows. There is also the Kolob Creek disaster, but I guess that one was technically on the border. These are just a few of the deaths not listed above. Unfortunately, there are more.

Um, kinda sorta. They have SEVEN at Emerald Pools - one of those is probably Keith/Heaps. Many, MANY more on Angels Landing! There was one in lower Pine Creek two years ago that did not get much publicity, etc. etc. Yeah, not comprehensive, but gives you an idea of the wide range of misadventures available.

Tom

oldno7
04-28-2010, 06:05 PM
Trivia Question: How much concrete will it take when they fill in Zion and make it a parking lot for Kolob Res. and Zion Ponderosa?

Brewhaha
04-28-2010, 06:53 PM
What's the over/under on the closure date for Angel's Landing? I say Sept. 1, 2010 and take the under.

ratagonia
04-28-2010, 10:38 PM
What's the over/under on the closure date for Angel's Landing? I say Sept. 1, 2010 and take the under.

Brew and all you others - DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS! You know they'd close it if they could - heck, sometimes it seems like... oops, there I go almost saying something stupid. Tom :moses:

Bo_Beck
04-29-2010, 06:53 AM
Angels Landing Hike?! It sucks. Way over-rated! So was Lady Mountain, and now look what happened there!

Sciurus
04-29-2010, 06:54 AM
Rumor has it that witnesses said the fall was a jump and looked like a suicide.

Alex
04-29-2010, 07:51 AM
Yep! 3 in the last 3 days! Crossed the river this morning twice at 500+ CFS. Great flow for kayakers, but make sure you know what you're doing. The water is cold and swift!
A body of mine floated Virgin on the same day, they put in a mile below where you guys found the second body. Funny the rangers didn't tell the only kayakers on the river to look for dead bodies....

Bo_Beck
04-29-2010, 08:29 AM
A body of mine floated Virgin on the same day, they put in a mile below where you guys found the second body. Funny the rangers didn't tell the only kayakers on the river to look for dead bodies....

Alex, the first boy was found sometime around 9 AM. There was a team with kayaks already up at Chamberlain Ranch waiting to launch to sweep the Narrows. When I arrived I went up to the end of Riverside Walk and then did a sweep down river from the first victim to the Temple of Sinawava. Simultaneously the decision was made to halt the Kayakers from launching at Chamberlain. Another crew swept the river from Temple of Sinawava on down. The second victim was located fairly soon after. When we were coming back down canyon we noticed several kayakers that were scouting Satans Staircase for a "Fun-Run". By that time the operation had been completed. I do know that several local "volunteer" whitewater specialists had been called and deployed.

PS: Have an awesome Yampa trip! I am really looking forward to a relaxing 5 days on the S.J.!

Alex
04-29-2010, 09:02 AM
Those two kayakers I bet were Erik and his buddy. Small world.

ratagonia
04-29-2010, 09:18 AM
A body of mine floated Virgin on the same day, they put in a mile below where you guys found the second body. Funny the rangers didn't tell the only kayakers on the river to look for dead bodies....

Alex apparently has more than one body.

Can I have new knees?

Tom

trackrunner
04-29-2010, 09:34 AM
Rumor has it that witnesses said the fall was a jump and looked like a suicide.

strong first post. do you have any sources?


edit: well no new information. news articles couple days ago stated they were trying to identify her find her car. maybe???
curious what other info you have.

trackrunner
04-29-2010, 09:42 AM
Angels Landing Hike?! It sucks. Way over-rated! So was Lady Mountain, and now look what happened there!

We agree again. Everything at Zion is way overrated.

[FONT=Verdana]Know what's not overrated, movie theaters, and sitting on the coach watching TV. I

Alex
04-29-2010, 10:29 AM
Alex apparently has more than one body.

Can I have new knees?

Tom

:angryfire: stupid Enrish language :lol8:

Alex
04-29-2010, 10:33 AM
Stay home people and be safe. It’s dangerous out there. [/FONT]tagged for sarcasm

Exactly my feeling, except then you and I will be paying for their obese-diabetic-welfare sucking-Obamacare. :angryfire::roll:

Iceaxe
04-29-2010, 11:02 AM
:angryfire: stupid Enrish language :lol8:

:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

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trackrunner
04-29-2010, 12:41 PM
tagged for sarcasm


:roll:

Did you not see the sarcasm tag? highlight the quote you'll see it.

Alex
04-29-2010, 02:18 PM
HA! I wasn't being sarcastic though :twisted:

Sciurus
05-03-2010, 08:04 AM
strong first post. do you have any sources?


edit: well no new information. news articles couple days ago stated they were trying to identify her find her car. maybe???
curious what other info you have.

My source for the comment about witnesses saying it looked like a suicide was from someone who is a NP employee. However, untill they can be 100% sure, I would imagine that they won't put out any official statement. What also makes it plausable as a suicide (at least to me) is that it happened at Scout Lookout, which is a fairly safe area.

Don
05-03-2010, 08:46 AM
My source for the comment about witnesses saying it looked like a suicide was from someone who is a NP employee. However, untill they can be 100% sure, I would imagine that they won't put out any official statement. What also makes it plausable as a suicide (at least to me) is that it happened at Scout Lookout, which is a fairly safe area.

Not sure I'd call Scout safe. At least one of last years deaths was a fall from Scout as well, wasn't it?

Alex
05-03-2010, 09:03 AM
The scout area itself has a fence and flat ground, so I considered it safe as well and my thoughts were exactly as Sciurus when I read it. The walk from the Scout's Area to the Angel's Landing bridge is when things get a little sketchy.

Iceaxe
05-03-2010, 09:31 AM
If you are going to intentionally jump than Scout's Lookout is a good place.

Nice walk up, easy to access launch platform, long shear cliff, no mid-cliff ledges to mess up your plans....

Just about ever where else that I can think of on Angel's landing kinda gradually rolls over to the big drop or has ledges sticking out that kinda mess with your take-off and mess with your flying lessons....

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trackrunner
05-03-2010, 12:46 PM
Zion fall victim identified

Regine Milobedzki, 63, of Upland, Calif., was identified Monday as the woman who died last week after falling from Scout Lookout while hiking the Angels Landing trail in southern Utah's Zion National Park.
Park rangers were called at about 4:20 p.m. April 27 after hikers reported seeing the woman fall, said Ron Terry, a spokesman for the park.
Her body was recovered the next morning from a ledge about 1,000 feet below Scout Lookout. Milobedzki was hiking alone, Terry said.
Park authorities confirmed her identity Thursday after a local hotel reported a guest had not checked out on time. A driver license was used to make the positive identification.
The death was the third reported at Zion National Park in April.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15007271?source=rss

Edit: more from the St. George Newspaper


The circumstances surrounding the cause of the fall remain under investigation.
As is the case with all fatalities in Zion National Park, the Washington County
Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident in cooperation with the National
Park Service. . .

more:
http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20100503/NEWS05/100503011/Falling-victim-iden\
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oldno7
05-11-2010, 05:12 AM
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