Coyote Gulch footwear

[asdf]

I have never backpacked Coyote Gulch but I am hopefully going to remedy that this next week. I am torn between taking my GTX backpacking boots and a pair of Keen sandals or... my normal trail running shoes and keens. I figure the water will be plenty cold this time of year, anyone have any idea about the depth?

suggestions....


:popcorn:

thanks

[DiscGo]

I did it in Chacos and had no problems.

[asdf]

I did it in Chacos and had no problems.

in what month and how deep were the crossings?

[uintahiker]

The deepest you'll see is down on the Escalante, and that will be over the knee deep if you go over to Stevens Arch. Most of the stuff in Coyote is ankle deep (mid June)

[trackrunner]

I did it in Chacos and had no problems.

in what month and how deep were the crossings?

March 2002, not even ankle deep if that. Escalante was much deeper, to about our knees.

[EvergreenDean]

I was in Coyote Gulch last weekend and there was mad snow. Unless it melts like crazy this week be prepared. Wild year in this area.

[asdf]

I was in Coyote Gulch last weekend and there was mad snow. Unless it melts like crazy this week be prepared. Wild year in this area.

good to know - thanks much
any photos from your trip?

[EvergreenDean]

These pics should speak for themselves...

[asdf]

awesome :2thumbs:

[UintaSolitude]

I was in Coyote Gulch last weekend and there was mad snow. Unless it melts like crazy this week be prepared. Wild year in this area.


Thanks for the recent info about Escalante area conditions! Bring better news next time though ;) :five:

[Don]

We're looking at Coyote Gulch next weekend (April 24-26). Anyone been down there more recently want to shed some light on current conditions?
I've seen some cool pictures of native art in Coyote, anyone have directions or GPS to help find these or are they pretty obvious?

[ststephen]

We're looking at Coyote Gulch next weekend (April 24-26). Anyone been down there more recently want to shed some light on current conditions?
I've seen some cool pictures of native art in Coyote, anyone have directions or GPS to help find these or are they pretty obvious?

Sorry I haven't had time to dig up any coords for you, but I think this may be enough to find it. In the attached pic you'll see how the canyon has opened up quite wide and there are a series of grassy terraces. There really wasn't any place else like this in the lower canyon (i.e. below the Coyote Natural Bridge). There are a bunch of social trails leading up the Navajo walls on the left (as facing down canyon) side. There were a couple of pictograph panels here and a few shards and things in the alcove. Seemed to me like the ancestral dwellers used this area for farming. The terraces made for some nice campsites too.

The first pic is taken from up in the alcove at the base of the Navajo wall. Enjoy your trip!

[ststephen]

Oh and I might as well throw in my $.02 about Summit's choice of footware! I don't think you'll be wading very often/long. If there is snow the boots will be better than trail running shoes. And if they are on your feet and not in your pack the weight isn't as much of any issue. I'd go with Boots+Keens.

You don't say which route you are planning on taking though. I'd especially say Boots+Keens if you are doing either Jacob H. or Crack-in-the-Wall for better gripping and ankle support. OTOH, many folks do darn near everything in trail running shoes (my wife for one who hates boots). The other extreme would be to do 100% Keens but include some neoprene socks for warmth. We ended up doing basically all of Buckskin/Paria that way and found it quite comfortable and supportive enough.

[asdf]

... My Keens ended up being dead weight, the water was just to cold in mid March. I only wore them from on day one from Hurricane Wash to Jacob Hamblin Arch and my poor feet felt like ice blocks. The GTX boots were the way to go becuase the steam is so shallow at 90% of the crossings.
I do plan on doing this hike again (Hopefully this fall) and I think I going with the same footwear choice.

[Don]

Sorry I haven't had time to dig up any coords for you, but I think this may be enough to find it. In the attached pic you'll see how the canyon has opened up quite wide and there are a series of grassy terraces. There really wasn't any place else like this in the lower canyon (i.e. below the Coyote Natural Bridge). There are a bunch of social trails leading up the Navajo walls on the left (as facing down canyon) side. There were a couple of pictograph panels here and a few shards and things in the alcove. Seemed to me like the ancestral dwellers used this area for farming. The terraces made for some nice campsites too.

The first pic is taken from up in the alcove at the base of the Navajo wall. Enjoy your trip!

[SIZE=2]That sounds pretty obvious. Actually sounds like the kind of place Cody would have looked even without the social trails. I

[asdf]

[QUOTE=Don;398818][SIZE=2]That sounds pretty obvious. Actually sounds like the kind of place Cody would have looked even without the social trails. I

[Don]

Nice map recon Summit! I really love that NewBogley allows Google map inserts! I understand there's a spring just down canyon from Jacob Hamblin Arch, should be near where you're pointing as well right?

[Don]

Speaking of inserting maps; how do you mark the map with the arrow and get it to stay there when you share the map here?

[asdf]

Nice map recon Summit! I really love that NewBogley allows Google map inserts! I understand there's a spring just down canyon from Jacob Hamblin Arch, should be near where you're pointing as well right?

pretty awesome feature but I wish we could insert custom maps... any word on that beech?

The is a springs I noticed where here
1. just east of Jacob Hamblin Arch near the first outhouse
37.419804,-111.042488

2. near the second outhouse.
37.421857, -111.002587

[Don]

Funny, the ruins site I was just saying would be a nice place to camp is about the mid-way point between those springs. I guess if we fill up on our way past the first... And camping away from the springs might get us away from other campers...
And I expect the stream will be flowing so we can always filter, right? I assume the stream is pretty silty? Maybe we should pre-filter with a screen or allow the water to stand and settle in a jug before filtering?

[asdf]

Funny, the ruins site I was just saying would be a nice place to camp is about the mid-way point between those springs. I guess if we fill up on our way past the first... And camping away from the springs might get us away from other campers...
And I expect the stream will be flowing so we can always filter, right? I assume the stream is pretty silty? Maybe we should pre-filter with a screen or allow the water to stand and settle in a jug before filtering?

How many days are you planning on hiking?
Are you doing it as an out n back?
Are you planning on hiking the death hill in or out near the Escalante?

Next time I do this canyon this will be my game plan.....
Day1:
Park just beyond Chimney rock where the road dead ends.
Hike down to Hurricane wash and into Coyote Gulch
Set up base camp somewhere between Jacob Hamblin Arch and the Swiss Cheese Falls.

Day2:
With a light day pack hike from camp to the Escalante/Stevens Arch and return back to the same campsite... It would be a long day hike but I bet I could make it from Jacob Hamblin to the Escalante in under 3 hours of hiking.

Day3: Hike out the way I came in.

[Cirrus2000]

It was a beautiful day hike when I did it.

Parked at the 40 mile bench tank (near the Jacob Hamblin Arch entrance/exit, the 177 degrees magnetic line, on Tom's map http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/coy100.jpg), walked to Hurricane Wash (beeline toward Dance Hall Rock, to join the wash), down all the way to the sand slog Crack in the Wall exit, across the slickrock to rejoin the road, and walk it back to the car.

11 hours, which would make a great overnight loop, camping near the arch. Coming up the sand wasn't bad at all - I think it's a little exaggerated, myself. The crack in the wall itself was easy and very cool.

[Don]

We're going to sit down tomorrow evening to finalize the itinerary but I was thinking:
Day 1: Down Hurricane Wash to somewhere near Jacob Hamblin Arch (wherever we find a good site).
Day 2: Down to Escalante, drop packs to establish camp somewhere between Coyote Gulch and Stevens Canyon. Continue packless up Stevens Canyon to explore a bit then back to camp.
Day 3: Back up Coyote.
Day 4: Back to the car.
I don't think that's going to work though 'cause we only have 3 days.

Is it pretty sandy up on Fortymile? If we tried to make a loop by coming out through the Crack in the Wall could we stage a bike up there to go get the car?

[Don]

It was a beautiful day hike when I did it.

Parked at the 40 mile bench tank (near the Jacob Hamblin Arch entrance/exit, the 177 degrees magnetic line, on Tom's map http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/esca/coy100.jpg), walked to Hurricane Wash (beeline toward Dance Hall Rock, to join the wash), down all the way to the sand slog Crack in the Wall exit, across the slickrock to rejoin the road, and walk it back to the car.

11 hours, which would make a great overnight loop, camping near the arch. Coming up the sand wasn't bad at all - I think it's a little exaggerated, myself. The crack in the wall itself was easy and very cool.

I think you just answered my question before I asked it. If we do this route I think we can do a 3 day loop with time to explore Stevens canyon. Nice! Thanks Kev!

[Felicia]

Just my 2 cents: always protect your ankles.