The Calendar Started at Year 1!

[Iceaxe]

Why are we being bombarded by "Best of the Decade" type crap from the stupid media? Are people really that retarded that they don't understand that there's still one more year left in this decade? 2010 is NOT the start of a new decade goddamnit!

Look it's simple... 2010... they even put in the number 10 to make it easier.

:soapbox:

[R]

Are people really that retarded that they don't understand that there's still one more year left in this decade?
Yes. Yes, they are.

[erial]

But what about 1970, was that one of the sixties or the seventies? Years from now will we think of 2010 as part of the aughties or just great vision?

[Iceaxe]

But what about 1970

Dumb people think it's part of the 70's (1970-1979). Smart people know it's part of the sixties (1961-1970).

But I stopped trying to explain that to the average air sucking Walmart shopper long ago.

:popcorn:

[Rob L]

Look it's simple... 2010... they even put in the number 10 to make it easier.


So 2001 was the first year of the new century? They even put in the number 1 to make it easier. :fishing:

[Redpb]

So when I was born I was really age 1?
That's how the Chinese do it anyway. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Udink]

I think most people use the word "decade" as defined in the dictionary rather than making up their own definition. That could be the cause of your frustration, Iceaxe. :lol8: Seriously, look it up, and I don't think you'll find any requirement that a decade be defined relative to any particular starting point. :ne_nau:

[Iceaxe]

Oh.... I think I understand now.... so you are arguing for the illogical concept of time rather than a mathematical one?

[theking648]

2010 is NOT the start of a new decade goddamnit!



well yes it is, there is a new decade every year. i would say 1996 - 2005 was a pretty good decade. and in May of 2010 i'll be two decades old.

I see what your saying, but it gets kind of confusing when you say 70's and what you really mean is 1961 - 1970. so when you throw around the word decade just insert "ten year(s)"

just found this for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decade

both have there place but both are right and/or wrong depending on how they're used


a cultural reference, an ordinal reference

[Sombeech]

The 1970's were the 10 years that begun with the 197_'s. I don't know if there's any other way to explain it.

The argument however, is when did an imaginary 10 year period start and finish.

A decade begun on May 3rd 1973 and ended May 2nd 1983. It's still a decade.

No matter how you look at it, it has been 10 years since we entered "the year" 2000, and so December 31st 2009 at 11:59:59 pm will be one complete decade from the beginning of 2000.

As far as the argument goes, has it been 2000 years since the beginning, that's irrelevant because we measure "The Year of Our Lord" 2000, whether you're Christian or not. Before this, time was measured since other significant events like certain changes in government.

[Cirrus2000]

As far as the argument goes, has it been 2000 years since the beginning, that's irrelevant because we measure "The Year of Our Lord" 2000, whether you're Christian or not.
Also known as the "Common Era". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era

I'm going to include 2010 in the teens, and 1970 in the '70s. I'm not an "average air sucking Walmart shopper", but neither am I pedantic. Common usage works for me.

:bootyshake:

[Wasatch Rebel]

Time begins at zero, not one. For example, if I have a kid that's less than one year old, he has still acquired age, whether it's two minutes, two weeks, or two months. With that in mind, 1-1-70 would be the first day of the seventies, and 12-31-79, would be the last day of the seventies. Thus it's entirely appropriate for the best stories of the decade to be aired now. :lol8:

[caverdan]

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[trackrunner]

Time begins at zero, not one. For example, if I have a kid that's less than one year old, he has still acquired age, whether it's two minutes, two weeks, or two months. With that in mind, 1-1-70 would be the first day of the seventies, and 12-31-79, would be the last day of the seventies. Thus it's entirely appropriate for the best stories of the decade to be aired now. :lol8:

but there never was a year zero. So if a decade has 10 years, than 1 AD (ce for Kev) to 10 AD (ce for Kev) is ten years.

The concept of zero as a number & value didn't happen until 9th century.

So which decade only had 9 years?

[Sombeech]

but there never was a year zero. So if a decade has 10 years, than 1 AD (ce for Kev) to 10 AD (ce for Kev) is ten years.

The concept of zero as a number & value didn't happen until 9th century.



Time is measured SINCE something happened, hence "It's been 8 years since 9/11", 67 years since Pearl Harbor....

If something happened last month, the 1 year count is not in effect. The "year 1" only starts after it's been 1 year since the significant event, and in our case, "The Year of Our Lord". We could call it the Common Era, but it's still the same measurement.

[Sombeech]

Let's say for some reason we decided to change our whole calendar, and start counting time from some significant event, like the city of Atlantis rising from the ocean or making contact with another alien life form on March 2 2011.

On March 2 2021, it will be 10 years since.... and if we would count that as "10 years after". On another note, 10 years after, would also be "in the 11th year".

That's the real argument. Am I 33 years old, or am I in my 34th year of age?

[erial]

Dumb people think it's part of the 70's (1970-1979). Smart people know it's part of the sixties (1961-1970).

But I stopped trying to explain that to the average air sucking Walmart shopper long ago.



Iceaxe: Gimme your best decade.

Walmart pharmacist: What?

Iceaxe: You know, whadyacallit, Niagara, the blue pill thingie.

[Iceaxe]

Iceaxe: Gimme your best decade.

Oh... the 80's were my finest decade... I was the king of the world in the 80's....

Young, single, well to-to-do, professional athlete.... yeah... the 80's were a tough time in my life.... :lol8:

[Wasatch Rebel]

So which decade only had 9 years?

None of them. As Sombeech says, it began with an event. The event was the year of Christ's birth. Whether zero was a concept unknown until the 9th century or not, that was when our modern system of dates began. Thus, one year after Christ was born, was A.D. 1. That year is thus accounted for.

[trackrunner]

None of them. As Sombeech says, it began with an event. The event was the year of Christ's birth. Whether zero was a concept unknown until the 9th century or not, that was when our modern system of dates began. Thus, one year after Christ was born, was A.D. 1. That year is thus accounted for.

No it wasn

[trackrunner]

As far as the argument goes, has it been 2000 years since the beginning, that's irrelevant because we measure "The Year of Our Lord" 2000, whether you're Christian or not.
Also known as the "Common Era". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era

I'm going to include 2010 in the teens, and 1970 in the '70s. I'm not an "average air sucking Walmart shopper", but neither am I pedantic. Common usage works for me.

:bootyshake:

If your looking for an event to start counting after perhaps AF. The new year will be 103 AF. Who knows what this is from?

[Sombeech]

[quote=trackrunner]No it wasn

[trackrunner]

The beginning of this current time structure was at birth.

agree



In the year 1 A.D. Christ was 1 year old.

I would agree if you switched to was his first year of life. Let me ask this, what year would his first "birthday" (the aniversery birthday not the actual day of birth) be celebrated, assuming his birth was at the begining like you stated? Year 1, year 2, year 3, year 1 BC, walmart option?



I shop at WalMart.

agree


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[Iceaxe]

:popcorn:

[Wasatch Rebel]

:popcorn: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[Wasatch Rebel]

[quote=jimflint1]
None of them. As Sombeech says, it began with an event. The event was the year of Christ's birth. Whether zero was a concept unknown until the 9th century or not, that was when our modern system of dates began. Thus, one year after Christ was born, was A.D. 1. That year is thus accounted for.

[quote]No it wasn

[Sombeech]

Time is a form of measurement. To say there is no year 0 is like saying there's no inch 0 on a ruler.

Even if it's not displayed as a 0, it's not an inch until it's gone the actual distance of 1 inch. It's just not described as a full inch until it's reached that point. ...we never say "zero inches", but yet, a measurement does indeed exist prior to 1 inch.

10 inches is when you reach the 10, not the 9, and not the 11. Everything makes sense right up front until it's over analyzed, then it starts to lose meaning and become confusing, like saying a decade ends at year 11.

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[Iceaxe]

Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers.... Your plan of playing stupid until I concede defeat will not work on me. My will is resolute.

[R]

I looked it up on the internet, and I believe everything I read on the internet.

It is the year 4.55 billion (plus or minus about 1%).

[Udink]

I looked it up on the internet, and I believe everything I read on the internet.

It is the year 4.55 billion (plus or minus about 1%).
That's such an Earth-centric view. We all know it's really something like year 13.5 or 14 billion. :lol8:

[Sombeech]

I looked it up on the internet, and I believe everything I read on the internet.

It is the year 4.55 billion (plus or minus about 1%).
That's such an Earth-centric view. We all know it's really something like year 13.5 or 14 billion. :lol8:

Whoa, whoa, whoa......... remember, there was no year 0 billion. :haha:

[trackrunner]

Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers.... Your plan of playing stupid until I concede defeat will not work on me. My will is resolute.

We should create a thread for just us intellectuals. Where others who are not intellectuals, but liberal artsy majors, can watch, marvel, and intellectually climax as we discuss scientific & mathematic theory. It's people like us that created calculus, theory of relativity, nuclear fusion, mapped the DNA genome, harnessed electricity, invented sports for leisure entertainment and business, can create a NCAA D1 playoff the preserves the conference integrity and be profitable, correctly classified the tramp stamp, and wet t-shirt contests just to name a few.

We could create a test to sift the groups? I can think of the perfect test to use. :haha:


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[R]

I looked it up on the internet, and I believe everything I read on the internet.

It is the year 4.55 billion (plus or minus about 1%).
That's such an Earth-centric view. We all know it's really something like year 13.5 or 14 billion. :lol8:

Uh, hello. Earth calender. A year is the time it takes the earth to go around the sun, not the time it takes for the universe to sit around waiting for the earth to form.

[Cirrus2000]

I liked Udink's 14 billion point, but then Richard zings right back. Hmm, too close to call, so far. I think we may need to go into overtime...



Oh, and this one's for you Shaun!


watch, marvel, and intellectually climax as we discuss scientific & mathematic theory.
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[Udink]

I think it's safe to defer to those who are actually observing. :lol8: At least in this galaxy...that we know of...

[Wasatch Rebel]

Well, just because the triumvirate of the year 900 AD or CE, didn't think to add a year zero, doesn't mean we have to continue with their foolishness. So the year 2000 began the decade with January 1st, and the year 2009 ended it at midnight of December 31st.

At least that's what I was thinking as I gathered up the shopping carts this morning. :rockon: