Bogley Family Fest - Zion - May 2010

[Cirrus2000]

Bogley Family Fest - Zion - May 2010
Thursday through Sunday nights, May 20-23.

Watch the first Post for current info:

We're meeting for dinner at the Pizza Noodle Thursday evening around 6-6:30.

No real group plans for Friday night dinner (Cook in camp? Hit that Thai place just outside the park?)

We're doing a Pot-Luck dinner Saturday night, I haven

[DiscGo]

I would love to have a family fest and the end of may sounds like it should work nicely for me.


By the way I am embarrassed to admit this, but I didn't know you had kids Kev. I have wondered why you decided not have children but I didn't want to pry. So congratulations on what appear to me as two new children :)

[Scott Card]

This is a great idea. Except my two worst months are May and September. I have every kid playing soccer all over Utah those two months. With two cars and 4 kids it is nuts.

[Iceaxe]

I'm interested in a family fest.... my only concern is May can be a little early for Zion Canyoneering. A lot of the good family routes are under snow, have high water issues or are filled with ice cold water.

[ScoutColorado]

I might be in the Zion area that weekend, but I'd have to rent a family.
Any ideas on what that might cost? :ne_nau:

[moab mark]

I might be in the Zion area that weekend, but I'd have to rent a family.
Any ideas on what that might cost? :ne_nau:

I'll pay you if you will take my kids for 2 weeks. :five:

[ScoutColorado]

Kind figured I might get an offer like that.
Especially from you Mark. :roflol:
I was actually more interested in the "wife" part.

[ststephen]

I was actually more interested in the "wife" part.

Unless you throw in some rug rats it's a "couples" fest and not a "family" fest isn't it? But luckily I think all that would be required is to be able to tolerate our families as opposed to being required to have one.

I'd love a chance to do another fest with my family in tow. Not sure of the date yet though. I see that it is the weekend of my son's school's prom. I don't know if he had any ideas to go to that or not (it's not just for seniors). But I'll float the idea and see if we can swing it even if just as a quick flight to Vegas for the weekend.

If the canyon's are too cold maybe we can find some climbing routes that are family friendly? I bet Bo would have some ideas...

[mrbrejcha]

I can't come up with a family that fast, but I'll meet you after the fest for some canyons.

Let me know. :2thumbs:

[Brewhaha]

That might be possible for my crew.

[Cirrus2000]

Hey, ststephen, I heard good things - it would be great to meet you and yours there!

ScoutColorado, hope you can make it, too!

Brewhaha, it'd be great to see you again, and meet your crew!

Matt, after I drop the kids off at the airport on Monday the 24th, I plan to hit Boulder the following weekend. Free on weekdays? Or plans for Memorial Day long weekend? We'll talk...

[ststephen]

Back at you Kev!

Well Aaron says the "prom" at his school is not for middle school kids so maybe this can work. He certainly said he'd like to get back in some canyons or up some mountains or something and it would be so great to do that with some other kids.

Cool - something adventurous to look forward to :naughty:

[Cirrus2000]

I'll just bump this every now and then; a little reminder to keep the idea simmering.

I've made a campsite reservation at Watchman for Thursday through Sunday nights, May 20-23. We've got 1 tent and 3 people - room for 1 more tent with up to 3 people. More sites available nearby, too, if anyone wants to do the so-called "civilized" sardine camping that you have to pay for. Hey, I like it. :2thumbs: We're in Loop D, number 34.

[Felicia]

I'll just bump this every now and then; a little reminder to keep the idea simmering.

I've made a campsite reservation at Watchman for Thursday through Sunday nights, May 20-23. We've got 1 tent and 3 people - room for 1 more tent with up to 3 people. More sites available nearby, too, if anyone wants to do the so-called "civilized" sardine camping that you have to pay for. Hey, I like it. :2thumbs: We're in Loop D, number 34.

I checked out the reservations and there are good campsites remaining right around Kev. Looks like a good time to make a reservation as it would be a small cancellation fee if you needed to cancel in the future.

Is anyone planning to tent at Watchman?

:popcorn:

[Randi]

I'll just bump this every now and then; a little reminder to keep the idea simmering.

I've made a campsite reservation at Watchman for Thursday through Sunday nights, May 20-23. We've got 1 tent and 3 people - room for 1 more tent with up to 3 people. More sites available nearby, too, if anyone wants to do the so-called "civilized" sardine camping that you have to pay for. Hey, I like it. :2thumbs: We're in Loop D, number 34.

I checked out the reservations and there are good campsites remaining right around Kev. Looks like a good time to make a reservation as it would be a small cancellation fee if you needed to cancel in the future.

Is anyone planning to tent at Watchman?

My family is in for a Zion W/E getaway. I just need to round up some kids! My dot Finch will come for sure, maybe some of her friends, but I don't think my dot Sarah can get the time off of work. Damn her w/e work shcedule! :(

I'll go check out reserving a site!
Kev, what do you plan on doing? If Finch's friends come, I'm not sure they'd be up for Pine Creek - but I think they'd be OK with Keyhole. Could be, we'd end up doing more hiking than canyoneering, cuz these city kids are a bit wimpy------but, it would still be fun.

So, I will be there for sure, with some amount of kids!
Well, not really kids as they're in the 16 - 18 YO range - not quite kids anymore.....

[Felicia]

I'm not sure they'd be up for Pine Creek - but I think they'd be OK with Keyhole. Could be, we'd end up doing more hiking than canyoneering,.....

Well, we know that I will not be canyoneering. :roflol:

I'm planning to just hang out and enjoy. I can be shuttle driver. I will also plan to have lunch at the North Rim one of the days.

:five:

[Randi]

I'm not sure they'd be up for Pine Creek - but I think they'd be OK with Keyhole. Could be, we'd end up doing more hiking than canyoneering,.....

Well, we know that I will not be canyoneering. :roflol:

I'm planning to just hang out and enjoy. I can be shuttle driver. I will also plan to have lunch at the North Rim one of the days.

:five:

Alrighty then - I've just reserved site #32 next to #34! :mrgreen:

6 people/2 tents/2 vehicles!
But, I'll most likey have 4 people/1 tent/1 vehicle...

Wer'e gonna have SOOOO MUCH fun! :2thumbs:

[Cirrus2000]

Cool, Randi!

Y'all know that we'll be celebrating Felicia's & my birthday on Saturday, too, right?

I've kind of been talking it over with ststephen a bit, too. I definitely want to do a quick intro Keyhole, and really want to take the kids through Pine Creek. Other than that, on the table are things like Spry and Behunin. But depending on the kids and how they lean towards raps vs. long walks, something like the Subway on the more walking side, or Birch Hollow on the more rapping side.

Unfortunately, with the big snow year, I'm thinking that Mystery will not be in season yet by May 20. Last year, it was available from about the 18th on, except for the 24th. On the other hand, if it starts melting early, it may happen - and that's one I'd like to take them through.

[Felicia]

I just booked site 33. :nod:

:rockon:

[Randi]

Cool, Randi!

Y'all know that we'll be celebrating Felicia's & my birthday on Saturday, too, right?

I've kind of been talking it over with ststephen a bit, too. I definitely want to do a quick intro Keyhole, and really want to take the kids through Pine Creek. Other than that, on the table are things like Spry and Behunin. But depending on the kids and how they lean towards raps vs. long walks, something like the Subway on the more walking side, or Birch Hollow on the more rapping side.

Unfortunately, with the big snow year, I'm thinking that Mystery will not be in season yet by May 20. Last year, it was available from about the 18th on, except for the 24th. On the other hand, if it starts melting early, it may happen - and that's one I'd like to take them through.

We won't be pulling in until late Friday night, and we'll have to leave by 3ish on Sunday - not a long w/e for us sadly. But what the heck, we'll have two full days and a couple of nights in Zion with y'all ~

And with two Birthdays to celebrate too! :cheers:

Do you think we could get a Subway permit? I'd attempt to take the kids through subway if we could a permit! I'm more concerned with taking them down big raps. Not my daughter, the other people's kids!

[Don]

I just booked site 31. Looks like we'll have that whole neighborhood! I'm reserved Thursday through Sunday; I plan to be back to work Monday. It'll be me and my son so I doubt we'll be doing any serious canyoneering but we will be hiking and a narrows day trip sounds fun.
I'm going to try to get Josh or Cody or one of my brothers to bring family down and split my campsite with me...

[Randi]

I just booked site 31. Looks like we'll have that whole neighborhood! I'm reserved Thursday through Sunday; I plan to be back to work Monday. It'll be me and my son so I doubt we'll be doing any serious canyoneering but we will be hiking and a narrows day trip sounds fun.
I'm going to try to get Josh or Cody or one of my brothers to bring family down and split my campsite with me...

Way cool that you're IN too Don! :2thumbs:
It's gonna be so neat that we'll get to meet each other's kids!
You've already met sarah, now you'll get to meet her lil' sister Rachael, and we get to meet "E", and Kev's kids!

[Cirrus2000]

Hey great - this is coming along! Getting very excited, even though it's still over 3 months away!

[Felicia]

Excellent! :five:

[abirken]

:2thumbs: YES! Will do everything in my power to make this happen. This is towards the end of school for my children so I need to just play around with these dates. Having both a high-schooler and kindergartner, not sure of what the end of the year parties are, etc...... :popcorn:

[bowjunkie]

hmmmm sounds like fun but I would have to rent a family lol

[Iceaxe]

OK... I just stickied this thread and put all the info I could pull into the first post.

It's now up to Cirrus2000 to keep the information in the first post current as he is one of the few that can edit the info. I think you will discover this is a good method so ya'll don't need to read 300 posts and worry about missing something.... enjoy...

:rockon:

[Don]

We're going to do a pot-luck dinner one of the nights, right?

[Cirrus2000]

OK... I just stickied this thread and put all the info I could pull into the first post.

It's now up to Cirrus2000 to keep the information in the first post current as he is one of the few that can edit the info. I think you will discover this is a good method so ya'll don't need to read 300 posts and worry about missing something.... enjoy...

:rockon:
Uh-oh - pressure's on... :haha:

[Iceaxe]

Uh-oh - pressure's on... :haha:

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[blueeyes]

If the kids and I come down can I celebrate my b-day with ya all too? It is the 19th.

I will call tomorrow and see what is left as far as reservations go.


Edit: So went back and read first post.... we now have D006 not exactly next to you guys but close enough. There were no more availble in that area.

[Don]

Sweet. This is going to be a fun trip! I told E about it today and he's pretty excited too. I love that place and it'll be his first time there so I'm looking forward to sharing that with him! Happy to see everyone jumping on today; good friends around make it even better.

[ststephen]

We're in spot D29 (next to Don) starting 5/20 for 3 nights too!

All three of us will be there. Aaron (13) is definitely jazzed about doing some more technical canyons. My wife Robin a little less so :haha: The fact there is a mix of folks with varying itineraries going on was definitely a selling point for her.

We will probably get there late on Thursday depending on how early I can pull Aaron from school on Thursday. Hey this is outdoor education, right? We're somewhat constrained in camping/cooking gear we can take as we'll be flying in to Vegas but I'm sure it will all work out.

Can't wait! :five:

Paul

[Felicia]

If the kids and I come down can I celebrate my b-day with ya all too? It is the 19th.



Heck ya! The more birthdays, the better. :five:

[UtahAdventureGuide]

I would like to spend that weekend in Zion but I too would need to rent a family. Any idea what canyons are going to be open that early?

[abirken]

Looked at the camping situation and there are still some spots open but can't get them booked until Wednesday this week. Looks like it's going to happen! Will work my hardest on making it to this. :nod: I just have a few other obligations this Spring that require driving, time off and $$$....so it's going to be tight. But worth it! :2thumbs: Told the kids and they are excited.

[Felicia]

Told the kids and they are excited.

Once you tell the kids, you are locked in - looking forward to see you! :mrgreen:


-Felicia :cripple:

[ststephen]

A little procrastination paid off, I got in the just-announced Southwest $39 fares going to LV on Thursday. Nothing that cheap coming back on Sunday though.

Anyway, I'm definitely committed now! One slight modification, Robin is lobbying for one night in a hotel on that first night we arrive Thursday. But we will be in the campground Fri/Sat.

[Cirrus2000]

Excellent! :five:

One slight modification, Robin is lobbying for one night in a hotel on that first night we arrive Thursday.
Well, if the weather goes sour that night, we all know where to go! :haha:

[abirken]

It's official! Got my campsite. #28. May 20-23. We are going to be the Bogley commune!!!! :2thumbs:

[DiscGo]

This should be a fun trip.

[Don]

It's official! Got my campsite. #28. May 20-23. We are going to be the Bogley commune!!!! :2thumbs:


Sweeeet.

Josh is likely going to be sharing my camp and bringing his girls!

We are going to be a bogley-commune. We really should get a Bogley flag!

[accadacca]

I am throwing this on my calendar. I have a couple boys that would really enjoy hangin' with other kids on a hike, etc. They are 4 & 7. I'll find somewhere to camp and maybe have my wife stay in St. George with our 2 year old girl while the boys drive up to Zion to do some hikes with the crew. :five:

[Felicia]

I was looking at the Loop D camping sites this morning. Might I suggest that if others are going to make camping reservations that they consider booking sites 8, 4 and 2 in that order. This would give us the entire field in the middle of the loop as we will have camp sites on both sides and not disturb other campers. It is also a great way to let the kids run a bit, but keep them contained.

...just a thought.

:rockon:

[abirken]

I agree Felicia! I have a friend that may join in with her 10 year old son. Sent her the link to the camp spots and told her to shoot for those particular D sites. :2thumbs: Looking forward to it!!!! I booked the spot so this means I am doing it. :five:

[UtahAdventureGuide]

Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?

[Randi]

Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?

I'm single, but I wouldn't be too interested in a "singles" event.
I'm far too fond of a bunch of my married friends, too fond of young people (too young to date), and old people (too old to date) to wanna hang out with a bunch of single folks my own age.

This is me assuming you meant "single" as in single for the purpose of possibly meeting a suitable adventerous dating partner. This is what I envision for "any" singles oriented event.

It just sounds like it might be less fun than having a mixed crowd.
I've kinda shyed away from chick-fests as well for the same reason, but I sorta changed my mind on that count when I inadvertantly ended up hanging out with a bunch of chicks in Zion at an ACA event a few summers ago! Man, was that a good time!

I would say that you should come to the family fest anyway, & have a good time, even if you don't have a partner/kids!!! :mrgreen:

[Don]

Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?

I'm single, but I wouldn't be too interested in a "singles" event.
I'm far too fond of a bunch of my married friends, too fond of young people (too young to date), and old people (too old to date) to wanna hang out with a bunch of single folks my own age.

This is me assuming you meant "single" as in single for the purpose of possibly meeting a suitable adventerous dating partner. This is what I envision for "any" singles oriented event.

It just sounds like it might be less fun than having a mixed crowd.
I've kinda shyed away from chick-fests as well for the same reason, but I sorta changed my mind on that count when I inadvertantly ended up hanging out with a bunch of chicks in Zion at an ACA event a few summers ago! Man, was that a good time!

I would say that you should come to the family fest anyway, & have a good time, even if you don't have a partner/kids!!! :mrgreen:

Agreed. It would be great to meet & date a girl who wants to be outside (and naked) as much as I do, but a singles oriented event is all pressure and eliminates some of my favorite bogleites.

[Randi]

[quote="Randi"][quote=UtahAdventureGuide]Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?



Agreed. It would be great to meet & date a girl who wants to be outside (and naked) as much as I do, but a singles oriented event is all pressure and eliminates some of my favorite bogleites.

Hahaha! Good luck on that girl wanting to be "naked" as much as you do!!! :roflol:
You might wanna start looking at the local nudist colony! :haha:

[Sombeech]

Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?

I'm sure a few marrieds would sneak in there too. :haha:

[UtahAdventureGuide]

I would say that you should come to the family fest anyway, & have a good time, even if you don't have a partner/kids!!! :mrgreen:

I'm planning on attending and trying to get a Subway permit just incase there's a raging torrent of water like there was in 05 :)

Any other canyons on the todo list, maybe Behunin? Did Behunin a few years ago with a little snow and runoff, it was good fun.

[abirken]

[quote=Randi][quote=UtahAdventureGuide]Wondering if there would there be any interest in doing a Bogley Singles Fest?



Agreed. It would be great to meet & date a girl who wants to be outside (and naked) as much as I do, but a singles oriented event is all pressure and eliminates some of my favorite bogleites.

Hahaha! Good luck on that girl wanting to be "naked" as much as you do!!! :roflol:
You might wanna start looking at the local nudist colony! :haha:

And I have the MOST recent proof of Don's need to be outdoors-n-naked on my computer in the form of a photo from Bogley Winterfest.......you guys missed a good time on that crazy Friday hike to the hotsprings!!!! Only thing that could have made that even better would have been a hearty beer!
:lol8: :five:

[abirken]

Excited that a good friend of mine and her boyfriend booked a camp spot for Zion Bogleyfest. :2thumbs: Hope she signs up and introduces herself. :mrgreen:

[Don]

Excited that a good friend of mine and her boyfriend booked a camp spot for Zion Bogleyfest. :2thumbs: Hope she signs up and introduces herself. :mrgreen:

When I said bring friends I thought I was clear about no boyfriends? :haha:

[abirken]

Excited that a good friend of mine and her boyfriend booked a camp spot for Zion Bogleyfest. :2thumbs: Hope she signs up and introduces herself. :mrgreen:

When I said bring friends I thought I was clear about no boyfriends? :haha:

HAHA! Well Don, I should re-phrase that. My friend and her boyfriend, of almost 11 years will be camping near me. I thought I told you about all the single girls I'll be bringing down. :ne_nau: I lock them in my trunk. Better ask me for a key so we can set them free for the weekend. :lol8:

[bigred72]

Wish I could go, I already had a "mancation" planned for Escalante that same time. We're probably going to hit Death Hollow......I'll be looking for some pictures though, on Fourth of July weekend I have a trip planned to Zion to go through the narrows one day and the subway the next day.....keep an eye out I will be posting this trip....

Enjoy!!!

[abirken]

Ok so if you can add my friends Angela/Eric, campsite 8 and then my friend Deb and her son (8years old), camp site 15. :nod: This is going to be so fun!

[DebC]

Ok so if you can add my friends Angela/Eric, campsite 8 and then my friend Deb and her son (8years old), camp site 15. :nod: This is going to be so fun!

Hello - I am Abirken's latest recruit for your fam fest in May. Excited! Don't know much more than what she has told me. Looking forward to having fun and getting to know more peeps.

[abirken]

YEA DEB!!!! So glad you joined.
Just because she's my friend, don't give her too much grief. :lol8: :2thumbs:

[Cirrus2000]

Hey Deb,

Welcome to Bogley!

So... This spring looks like it might not be the best canyoneering time, but I'm sure we'll have a great time doing hikes, walks, whatever.

Canyons-wise, well, the discussion elsewhere about the amount of snowpack this year kind of goes into it. It will probably be a pretty late runoff down the narrows, meaning that trips through Orderville, Englestead and Mystery Canyons will likely be closed until after the end of May. We'll have to watch the Virgin River flow as the dates approach, and see what happens.

Be that as it may, I did get a reservation for 6 people on Sunday the 23rd for Mystery Canyon, in the lottery earlier this month. I don't know whether it will be of any use (highly unlikely) but it's there if we are able to take advantage of it.

One very big downer right now is the roadworks planned for the spring on the highway east of the Junction. Information on the roadwork (http://www.nps.gov/zion/parkmgmt/road-construction.htm):

[quote]Major roadwork will occur on the Zion-Mount Carmel Highway in 2010.

Zion National Park is anticipating that major roadwork will occur on the Zion-Mount Carmel Highway beginning as early as May of 2010. The roadwork will occur on a section of roadway known as The Switchbacks, from the junction of the Zion-Mt Carmel Highway and the Zion Canyon Scenic Drive to the west portal of the Zion-Mt Carmel Tunnel.

The Zion-Mt Carmel Highway was constructed in the late 1920

[abirken]

What a HUGE bummer about the road construction. :ne_nau: I do like driving in from that direction. I will be keeping an eye on it. Anyone recommend a website of up-to-date Zion road conditions?

The plan is to be there Thursday by mid afternoon. We do have to leave on Sunday, most likely in the morning to head back home. :(

I am bringing my full crew- 6 year old, 15 year old and possibly the husband. Both kids are great hikers and can go the distance. BUT my youngest maxes out at about 3-4 hours. This will limit us from doing the bigger or more technical hikes. Emerald Pools is definitely on the list. I am going to bring my gear just in case something works out where I can squeeze in a canyon. I do think my oldest and the husband will bring their bikes and could be very interested in mountain biking if anyone else is??

I will do my research on hikes that could work for us and let you all know. :popcorn:

[ststephen]

We should arrive mid-afternoon on Thursday and will have all day on Friday and Saturday to play. Sunday we can do something that's a "half day". I would want to be finished by early afternoon to give time to clean up, travel to LV and eat some dinner.

It is unfortunate that we're limited by the snow pack and now by the road. But I'm sure it will be lots of fun no matter what we do. It would be awesome to do Mystery but like you say it's probably not going to happen.

Of the canyons left we'd be interested in Birch or maybe Telegraph on Friday.

Then I've never done Subway and would love to spend a day there but I don't think Sunday would be a good day for it as I don't want to have to rush through.

I wasn't paying enough attention to the permit window and just now there were no Friday and only 3 Saturday permits for Subway. I grabbed the 3 so if someone else gets some walk-in permits we could team up. Or if Pine Creek/Keyhole work out we can swap permits around and offer these ones up for others.

Anyway, even if we're just doing some hikes it will be great to have a group to enjoy them with!

[Cirrus2000]

OK, I also grabbed 6 Telephone for Friday... We can all mix and match. Hey, a $5 investment, how can it go wrong? :ne_nau:

[DebC]

Hey Kev - thanks for the warm welcome. I really do not know what to expect from the hikes, but the emerald pools sounds nice. I am just excited to explore another part of UT other than Arches and Canyonlands.

[Bo_Beck]

Of the canyons left we'd be interested in Birch or maybe Telegraph on Friday.

Watch out for the "snow bridges" in Telephone! I loved that canyon with snow in it, but the bridges were a bit tenuous and freaky! :nod:

[moab mark]

Of the canyons left we'd be interested in Birch or maybe Telegraph on Friday.

Watch out for the "snow bridges" in Telephone! I loved that canyon with snow in it, but the bridges were a bit tenuous and freaky! :nod:

Seems like there was one anchor in telephone that was just a small chockstone stuck in a crack? Wasn't much else around as I recall. That would be very hard to find if there was any snow. But I could be nuts. :ne_nau:

[Cirrus2000]

Just an update on permits: I got 12 Keyhole for Friday and 12 Keyhole for Saturday. Whatever else is done those days, a quick tour through Keyhole (depending on road line-ups) can be done before or after... And I'm kind of keen to try a moonlight Keyhole trip...

[blueeyes]

I am getting excited for this trip! First camp trip of the year and the start of a month long vacation for me. Woot woot!

[Felicia]

I'm also getting excited. I should be walking by then - camping will be my reward!

[Randi]

OK, I also grabbed 6 Telephone for Friday... We can all mix and match. Hey, a $5 investment, how can it go wrong? :ne_nau:

Are you planning on taking your kids down Telephone Kevin?

Also, I thought Keyhole was going to be inaccessible due to the road construction.
The plan is to bring my youngest daughter, her boyfriend & 1 or 2 of her girlfriends, and none of them have canyoneered before except Rachael so I was planning on keeping things mild-mannered.
If Keyhole is accessible, we'd probably want to do that one on Sat. (guess I better pick up a permit) +/or a short hike.

Or, depending on the mood of the crew, we might opt for hiking instead of canyoneering. I've always wanted to hike the forks of Taylor Creek

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/zion_national_park/taylor_creek.html


I plan to take them through Kannarra Creek on our way home Sunday.
Anyone want to join us for this?

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/kanarra_creek/canyon.html

Kevin, are you heading to Boulder the following w/e? My girls are coming with me!!! I'm so excited!
This will be my first mommy/daughter trip with the both of them in 2 or 3 years at least!

[Iceaxe]

Heads Up.... Permits for Keyhole just went on-line for the weekend of Family Fest. If you want to canyoneer Keyhole I'd reserve a couple permits.

Backcountry Permit Reservations
https://zionpermits.nps.gov/backcountry.cfm?TripTypeID=3

[Randi]

Heads Up.... Permits for Keyhole just went on-line for the weekend of Family Fest. If you want to canyoneer Keyhole I'd reserve a couple permits.

Backcountry Permit Reservations
https://zionpermits.nps.gov/backcountry.cfm?TripTypeID=3

Thanks Shane! I just got a res. for 12 for Sat. - I'll just cancel or change the number if we don't do it or don't have that many folks.

I don't know how keen these kids will be on rappelling - I've got to get them out here locally & see how they like it. Are you coming? :mrgreen:

[ststephen]

Is it too soon to start thinking about pot lucks and such? Which night(s)? Anyone planning to bring a gas BBQ? Or will we just use the campground BBQs?

I grabbed 3 permits for Subway on Friday. That's all there was. I think there was/is more for Sunday but I can't do such a long canyon that day. It would be cool if we could get some walk-in Subways but that may be too hard. Probably my wife would give up her slot if some other adult wants to come with my son (13) and me.

I know Kev has a bunch of Keyhole permits too.

[ststephen]

I plan to take them through Kannarra Creek on our way home Sunday.
Anyone want to join us for this?

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/kanarra_creek/canyon.html


We might be up for that. We do have to get back to Vegas that evening, but there should be plenty of time for a decent hike and I don't think this significantly adds to the mileage back in that direction does it?

I think Robin is quite happy to do more hiking/exploring than swimming/downclimbing :haha:

[Don]

Are you planning on taking your kids down Telephone Kevin?

Also, I thought Keyhole was going to be inaccessible due to the road construction.
The plan is to bring my youngest daughter, her boyfriend & 1 or 2 of her girlfriends, and none of them have canyoneered before except Rachael so I was planning on keeping things mild-mannered.
If Keyhole is accessible, we'd probably want to do that one on Sat. (guess I better pick up a permit) +/or a short hike.

Or, depending on the mood of the crew, we might opt for hiking instead of canyoneering. I've always wanted to hike the forks of Taylor Creek

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/zion_national_park/taylor_creek.html


I plan to take them through Kannarra Creek on our way home Sunday.
Anyone want to join us for this?

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/kanarra_creek/canyon.html

Kevin, are you heading to Boulder the following w/e? My girls are coming with me!!! I'm so excited!
This will be my first mommy/daughter trip with the both of them in 2 or 3 years at least!

I might be interested in Kannarra too. Depends on E and how long his weekend already felt for him.

[Cirrus2000]

Are you planning on taking your kids down Telephone Kevin?
Well, it does sound a little bit tough for them (I've never done it, so don't know for sure.) I think I'd do it if it were with a group that was not much more newbie-heavy than we'll already be with my two kids. I like the idea of hitting Angels Landing on the way up, or on the way back. But I have reservations, so... :ne_nau:


Kevin, are you heading to Boulder the following w/e? My girls are coming with me!!! I'm so excited!
This will be my first mommy/daughter trip with the both of them in 2 or 3 years at least!
That's really cool! Definitely going to be in Boulder - can't wait. See you there, too! :2thumbs:



Is it too soon to start thinking about pot lucks and such? Which night(s)? Anyone planning to bring a gas BBQ? Or will we just use the campground BBQs?

I know nothing of pot lucks - I don't generally socialize when camping, cuz I usually do it alone... :haha: But Saturday is a birthday for a couple of us - I'll be four and a half freakin' decades old! - sounds like a good night for celebrations! I do plan on having lots of alcohol and snacks with me, and I can share.

So here's my thinking so far: We will be getting in on Thursday late afternoon. On Friday, depending how many people there are, and who's interested, I'd like to do a popular, but non-permit-stricken trip like Angels Landing, and maybe Telephone if it isn't super tough - it would be better than doing it on the Saturday or Sunday, I'm guessing. Later in the day, an early evening romp through Keyhole would be fun, for folks who have arrived Friday afternoon?

Saturday, how about some easier canyon like Yankee Doodle, early, then back to the park for something else later. Keyhole for people like me (those who love it), or a hike somewhere.

Sunday, I've got my Mystery permit in my back pocket, so if the Narrows cooperates, I'll definitely do that with the kids, and up to 3 others who would like to join in. If not, well, we'll see what comes up. I'd be willing to do Kanarra, too...

We're staying Sunday night, too, and leaving Monday mid-morning.

:popcorn:

[Don]

Saturday night pot luck sounds fun! And Kev, you need to come to Freeze Fest; that whole week was a big food-share fest. Fun stuff.

Cody was looking yesterday and apparently Watchman is all booked up.

[blueeyes]

I am up for anything as long as my kids are not overly tired and driving me nuts. Actually last hike we took Sarah on (Hidden Canyon) she was a little trooper. She started to get a little complainy on the way back out but I lit a fire under her cute hind end and she smoked us down the trail. As I slowly made my way off the trail she being the smart alec she is says "I have been sitting her for 15 min waiting, what took you so long." So maybe we are entering a new era of childhood. Where I can take them on longer hikes and they are dragging me off the trail instead of the other way around. At this point I am not sure Spencer will be with us. He doesn't think it necessary to do homework.

I have only been through Subway so I am super excited to do another canyon. I still need to hike Angel's landing and pretty much I am just looking forward to celebrating and hanging out with friends.

I can probably bring a gas grill. It is a nice one too. I have to move it south anyway. Why not that weekend. I don't make any promises because it depends on how it would ride in the back of that little trailer that gave me so much grief in October when I drove down to Gooseberry Mesa. I am not going to lie to you.... I am a bit nervous about towing now.

[Don]

I've been up there a few times but after those two falling deaths last year I'm not so sure about taking E up there. How do you all feel about kids up there?

[blueeyes]

I guess I go as far as I feel safe with them. If it gets to where I am freaking out becasue they are to close to the edge, then I stop and go back. Or hang out for those who want to go all the way and wait and rest with the kids. My kids are pretty good about not doing anything that scares them. So if they don't like it they won't do it.

Having never been up there I really don't know how scary it is. I have only heard.

[Cirrus2000]

That's a tough one, Don. I'm comfortable with my 13 and 11 year olds, but E's a little younger. On the other hand, it's one you and one him - a very good ratio. Personally, I think that in your shoes I would talk to him about it - impress on him just how real the danger is if he is careless, but also what an amazing experience it is. If he's willing, and you're comfortable that he takes it seriously, then go for it! Of course, you know better just how reliable he is - whether he can be counted on to not horse around.

Wow, campground's full huh? FF - oh, yes, I'll be there. It's definitely a go this year.

Cher

[Randi]

We might be up for that. We do have to get back to Vegas that evening, but there should be plenty of time for a decent hike and I don't think this significantly adds to the mileage back in that direction does it?

I think Robin is quite happy to do more hiking/exploring than swimming/downclimbing :haha:

I've never been. Cedar City is about 50 miles (I think) from the I-15 split, and Kanarra is S. of Cedar so it's prolly anywhere from 20 - 30 miles out of your way I'm guessing.
My plans are subject to change depending on the mood of the kids! I don't know what to expect, but I'm hoping they're gonna love it & I think this hike is pretty mild mannered.


Saturday night pot luck sounds fun! And Kev, you need to come to Freeze Fest; that whole week was a big food-share fest. Fun stuff.

Cody was looking yesterday and apparently Watchman is all booked up.

Food Fest is right! I think for the BFF "Bogley Family Fest" you & Cody ought to do another seafood stew or whatever that dish was at FF.
That was delicious!!! Best I ever had! ♥
I'm sad that I won't be coming to FF this year! :(
I'll be in Mexico during that time.


I've been up there a few times but after those two falling deaths last year I'm not so sure about taking E up there. How do you all feel about kids up there?

I took my girls up there when they were 14 & 16 & I was super worried the whole time. Just over-protective mom stuff...I kept telling them to be careful, and hold onto the chains, etc. I stayed close behind in spots so I could catch them if they fell (yeah right). I was probably annoying the hell out of them, because they were being careful, but a mom's a mom I guess.
I think it's pretty safe as long as you stay on the trail and watch your footing. One of the biggest problems I see is that too many people try and skirt around slow-pokes. You just have to be patient with so many people up there. Don't skirt around the traffic but stay on the trail.
There are some places on & especially off the trail where you can get ball-bearing sandy spots & you have to be cognizant of that.

It was a great experience for all of us.

Pictures? :)~

http://picasaweb.google.com/advntrinxs/AngelsOnAngelsLanding#

[ststephen]

I've been up there a few times but after those two falling deaths last year I'm not so sure about taking E up there. How do you all feel about kids up there?

I think it can be done safely with kids. You need to instill a sense of seriousness and if they are inclined to freak out about heights it wouldn't be a good idea. I did it with Aaron when he was maybe 9 years-old? He also did Half Dome at a young age, but I did short-rope him to me for that.

[DiscGo]

Well, I'm out.

This seems to always happen when it comes to me attending Bogley events.

My Dad and my brothers and I are going on our once in a life time road trip, and it got bumped back a week to the same time as the Bogley fest. Sorry I'll miss seeing you guys and your (seemingly) wonderful families.

[Cirrus2000]

Oh no! If I hadn't met you once, I might think you were IceAxe's alter-ego sock puppet or something... We're going to start getting complexes soon! Well, have a great time on your road trip, Dan - and think of us once or twice! We'll probably be talking about you the whole time... :haha:

[trackrunner]

Dan - and think of us once or twice! We'll probably be talking about you the whole time... :haha:

while doing the subway!

(note this has inside thing that Dan will get but few will that were not there)

[abirken]

I'm still planning on being there! Not so sure about Angels Landing with my 6 year old?? He's gotten to be such a strong hiker over the last year and I would be totally interested in doing something with a bit less exposure. I would also love to do a short canyon maybe with my oldest, Ben. Looking forward to it!!!

Bummed you won't be there discGo!!

[DiscGo]

while doing the subway!

(note this has inside thing that Dan will get but few will that were not there)


Low blow! :)

[recinutah]

Not so sure about Angels Landing with my 6 year old??

Took my 7 year old up there last summer. I had him on a harness, but there were plenty of other kids that age up there without.

[Felicia]

OK - this has to be done:

I'm an not going to make this trip to Zion. :cry1:



Although I'm really disappointed at having to make this decision, I'm most disappointed in not getting to hangout with everyone and visit.

I will be there next time! :nod: :clap:

[Cirrus2000]

:cry1: Very sad! Ah well - looking forward to seeing you next time! :ne_nau:

[abirken]

:cry1:Sad Felicia. You will be missed!!!!! :cry1:

10 more days you all!!! Is everyone getting ready?? I'm still recovering from a weekend of belly dance in Denver and a long weekend in Moab for Mothers Day. Off I go again next week to Zion. FUN FUN!!!!

[Randi]

:cry1:Sad Felicia. You will be missed!!!!! :cry1:

10 more days you all!!! Is everyone getting ready?? I'm still recovering from a weekend of belly dance in Denver and a long weekend in Moab for Mothers Day. Off I go again next week to Zion. FUN FUN!!!!

I'm gonna miss Felicia (& John) too! :cry1:

I'm totally excited about the rest of the month! And the months to follow!
Zion in 10 days, followed by a looong w/e in Boulder, followed by more
Zion! :2thumbs:

I'm especially excited about spending time with my kids & meeting all of yours!
It's just so cool that you can meet people over the internet (from different parts of the country even), meet up
for amazingly cool adventures, and even meet their families! What a different world it is for our kids, then when we grew up.

Alison!!! You've been grabbing the bull by the horns as far as staying active
and having fun! High five girl! :mrgreen:

[ststephen]

YES! I'm getting excited about this too and completely in agreement about how cool it is to hook up with other families this way. Too bad the weather, roads, snow, permits, etc. aren't really working out in our favor so far, but we will have fun regardless I'm sure.

Who's there on Thursday evening and should we go out for dinner as a group that night?

Now I've got to get Aaron to get a lot of school work done this weekend to make this all possible...

[abirken]

So excited to chill with you Ms. Randi!!!!!!!!! And we will be two campsites apart. Woohoo!! Yes girl. I have been riding long and strong the past month or so and I am feeling it. But we are only little sprouts on this big, bad-ass globe for a short period of time.......might as well make it a good ride. :nod::wink:

ps- my friend Deb can't make it. She is campsite 15 and hasn't canceled her reservation yet. If anyone would like it that hasn't booked a spot yet, let me know and we can make arrangements for you to have it.

[blueeyes]

I am living half here and half there! I am SOOOOO looking forward to this camp trip to take a break from everyday life. I can almost smell the campfire....

[Sombeech]

I'm still trying to make this happen. If I can bring the family down, we won't be there until late Friday night and we'll leave Sunday early afternoon. I'll let you guys know.

[Don]

Sorry to hear it Felicia. We'll miss you.

I plan to be there sometime Thursday so dinner Thursday night would be cool.




You & E should come and do Kanarra with us on Sunday!
You're heading home up the 15 right? It's out that way toward Cedar City.
(Quote from http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39229-Lady-the-Beautiful!)

Yeah, we'll be going up I-15. I'm down for Kanarra; let's talk next week!

[thedesertnomad]

Just an update on permits: I got 12 Keyhole for Friday and 12 Keyhole for Saturday. Whatever else is done those days, a quick tour through Keyhole (depending on road line-ups) can be done before or after... And I'm kind of keen to try a moonlight Keyhole trip...

I just had some friends go through Keyhole and the water is nice and clean!!! Apparently the log on rap 1 is now down in the hole and a new one is down there with it. The corridor at the end has been shortened considerably due to heavy sand fill. The Virgin river is FINALLY looking like it's trending toward decreasing. There MIGHT be a chance for Mystery for you guys. We shall see...

[Cirrus2000]

Yeah, doing the daily check on the flow rates! :haha: Can't wait for this trip! We'll arrive on Thursday afternoon some time (depends how many stops I make on the way from Vegas - buying groceries, cooler, beer, wine, beer, beer, wine, groceries, jetboil canisters, new cell phone, beer...) but we'll almost certainly be in time for dinner. Location?

Did I mention Behunin permits? Got some for Sunday, so I don't know about the Kanarra Creek hike... If flows are down, we'll do Mystery. If not, we'll do Behunin. I'd just like to get at least one other adult to join us for those... :ne_nau:

Here's what I have in mind (right now). Friday - Keyhole and Birch Hollow. Stick to the east side? Saturday - Angels Landing and Yankee Doodle? Sunday - Mystery or Behunin, and Kanarra Creek for others?

Dinner out on Thursday. Dinner thoughts for Friday? Potluck on Saturday.

:2thumbs:?

[Randi]

Yeah, doing the daily check on the flow rates! :haha: Can't wait for this trip! We'll arrive on Thursday afternoon some time (depends how many stops I make on the way from Vegas - buying groceries, cooler, beer, wine, beer, beer, wine, groceries, jetboil canisters, new cell phone, beer...) but we'll almost certainly be in time for dinner. Location?

Did I mention Behunin permits? Got some for Sunday, so I don't know about the Kanarra Creek hike... If flows are down, we'll do Mystery. If not, we'll do Behunin. I'd just like to get at least one other adult to join us for those... :ne_nau:

Here's what I have in mind (right now). Friday - Keyhole and Birch Hollow. Stick to the east side? Saturday - Angels Landing and Yankee Doodle? Sunday - Mystery or Behunin, and Kanarra Creek for others?

Dinner out on Thursday. Dinner thoughts for Friday? Potluck on Saturday.

:2thumbs:?

I'd like to have a few more folks along for Keyhole on Sat. There will be 3 - 4 of us (depending on whether my daughter's boyfriend comes along). I have a permit for 12 but will change it down depending on interest.

Anyone wanna think about joining us of that?

I think a potluck sounds great for sat.
I already thought about bringin a Chinese Chicken Salad to share.

Bummer Alison that your friend can't make it - she's gonna be missing out on a good time - it'll be super fun to hang out again, and hopefully do a canyon or hike together.

Hope you & your family can make it too Justin!

[ststephen]

Friday, if Subway is more back to normal I'll do that with Robin and Aaron (I snagged the last 3 slots they had for preservation for it). But if it is still in high flow conditions I'll offer that permit up to other more experienced folks and gladly join the Keyhole/Birch trip. I'd love to hit Mystery if that pans out, but I'm good for whatever. Kinda will want to see how Robin's feeling and what other options might be available for hiking if she's had her fill of canyons.

Meet at the campground on Thursday? Or at a food & drink place? What time?

[Don]

You still have openings for Keyhole? I haven't done that one but it sounds easy. Think I could get E through there without hampering your fun...?

[Randi]

You still have openings for Keyhole? I haven't done that one but it sounds easy. Think I could get E through there without hampering your fun...?

If you're talking to me Don about Sat. - yeah, totally open. It's only me and the kids so far. Maybe Hank too if he's able and willing (by able I mean if he's not working).
It's an easy canyon - and pretty darn short but the water is cold so a wet suit is definitely needed! And neo socks! And neo gloves for the little guy would be good too!

We're gonna be getting in pretty late on Fri. and might sleep in a bit on Sat. Like we won't be popping out of bed at 6AM raring to go..it'll probably be more like stirring at 7 - up by 8 - know what I mean?
I figure a leisurely not-too rushed agenda will work well for our group.

I hope to do a keyhole descent and then maybe a hike up to Hidden Canyon or some other half day thing...

but - if for some reason they don't wanna do Keyhole I might bail on it and do Taylor Creek of of Kolob Terrace - a nice hike I've heard...or some other thing we decide spur-o-the-moment.

So I guess I'm just saying that even though I'm making a plan - we will be pretty spontaneous and just kinda go with the flow of the kids mood. This trip is for them, & my main goal is ensure they have a really good time.

So plan on joining us please, and hopefully it WILL happen! :mrgreen:

[Don]

If you're talking to me Don about Sat. - yeah, totally open. It's only me and the kids so far. Maybe Hank too if he's able and willing (by able I mean if he's not working).
It's an easy canyon - and pretty darn short but the water is cold so a wet suit is definitely needed! And neo socks! And neo gloves for the little guy would be good too!

We're gonna be getting in pretty late on Fri. and might sleep in a bit on Sat. Like we won't be popping out of bed at 6AM raring to go..it'll probably be more like stirring at 7 - up by 8 - know what I mean?
I figure a leisurely not-too rushed agenda will work well for our group.

I hope to do a keyhole descent and then maybe a hike up to Hidden Canyon or some other half day thing...

but - if for some reason they don't wanna do Keyhole I might bail on it and do Taylor Creek of of Kolob Terrace - a nice hike I've heard...or some other thing we decide spur-o-the-moment.

So I guess I'm just saying that even though I'm making a plan - we will be pretty spontaneous and just kinda go with the flow of the kids mood. This trip is for them, & my main goal is ensure they have a really good time.

So plan on joining us please, and hopefully it WILL happen! :mrgreen:

Yeah, I was unclear, I was talking to whoever is going I guess. I'll have to talk to him about it. Can I rent a kids wetsuit & stuff somewhere?

[abirken]

I plan on leaving at 5 am-ish on Thursday, putting me into Zion early afternoon. It may be just me and my little dude. My friends will either be following along or meeting there at some point that day. The husband is very likely to not get out of work:fitz:-don't get me started.:roll::angryfire: And my oldest son may have to work that weekend as well because he just got his first job. If they don't schedule him, then he will be with me. :mrgreen:

I'm down for anything. Spontaneity always works well in my book.

[blueeyes]

Sarah and I will have our mountain bikes and are coming down Wed night. So see ya all when you get there. And we are up for anything... ya know where ever the wind blows us. I just want to chill and relax and roast some hot dogs and marshmellows.

I will bring lemon cookies to the potluck and probably something else as well.

[Ryebrye]

We were thinking of going as a family down to Bryce next weekend, but maybe would change our plans to go to Zion instead.

Anyone planning stuff for really young kids? I've got an 18-month-old and a 4-year-old. The 4-year-old probably would be happy just riding the shuttle the entire time and then getting out and running around like a crazy person.

I was thinking Icebox, but I don't know if my 18-month old could handle the hanging belay station on the first rap ;)

I'd do Angels Landing, but I'm 100% positive that my 4-year old would get himself killed on that trek. Any other ideas?

[abirken]

I will bring lemon cookies


:slobber::slobber::slobber::slobber::slobber::slob ber::slobber::slobber::slobber::slobber::slobber:: slobber::slobber::slobber::slobber::nod::wink:

PS- Maybe we should find out what THE BIRTHDAY BOYS FAVORITE DESERT IS??????? SATURDAY IS SOMEONE SPECIALS BIRTHDAY!!

[Cirrus2000]

Don and Randi - I have Keyhole permits for Saturday, too. Willing to do it more than once a day.

I gotta know: Pine Creek - who's in?!? It's looking good for walk-ins! :2thumbs:

[Cirrus2000]

Oh, hang on, I missed a few posts while refilling my wine glass... Fave dessert? Anything goes! Lemon cookies rock! :lol8: Oh, but I did enjoy the choco banana-y things in Moab last year... :slobber:

Ryebrye, it would be cool to meet you! Not sure that my 13 and 11 year olds would be into the same activities as your kids, though!

[abirken]

I'd be interested in both canyons Kev. Will bring my gear just in case but would have to rent a wetsuit. :haha:

How cool that it's your bday evening on Saturday!!!

[blueeyes]

Oh, hang on, I missed a few posts while refilling my wine glass... Fave dessert? Anything goes! Lemon cookies rock! :lol8: Oh, but I did enjoy the choco banana-y things in Moab last year... :slobber:

Ryebrye, it would be cool to meet you! Not sure that my 13 and 11 year olds would be into the same activities as your kids, though!

Bannanna Boats coming your way.

[ststephen]

I wonder if Felicia threw back her camping res for #33 and if some poor unsuspecting person/family is going to find themselves surrounded by all of us...:naughty:

Still pondering what to bring/make for the pot luck. It's hard when flying. I have a burner that fits on a propane tank I'll bring and I can use the grills in camp. Maybe a dry-rub on a tri-tip and cook up some onions and peppers for a fajitas? Can someone local bring lighter fluid? Either that or take what I don't use off my hands. If local folks throw in an extra camp chair that would be cool too.

[Felicia]

No, the kid will be using my campsite. :-)

[Cirrus2000]

No, the kid will be using my campsite. :-)
Cool! I wondered what became of it. My new neighbour!

I'm glad there will be lots of folks around. My eleven year old daughter says that if I drink too much on Saturday, she doesn't want to sleep in our tent, just in case I throw up... :haha: I guess she knows I'm out of practice.

[anghasch]

Ok so if you can add my friends Angela/Eric, campsite 8 and then my friend Deb and her son (8years old), camp site 15. :nod: This is going to be so fun!

Little late signing up and saying hello, but hey, I have site 8 and am ready to go! Thanks for the invite abirkin! :clap:

I also have two friends coming, one with a 3 year old that LOVES to hike. They will be in site 15.

Looking forward to meeting everyone!:mrgreen:

[Cirrus2000]

Welcome Angela! See you next week!

[blueeyes]

Little late signing up and saying hello, but hey, I have site 8 and am ready to go! Thanks for the invite abirkin! :clap:

I also have two friends coming, one with a 3 year old that LOVES to hike. They will be in site 15.

Looking forward to meeting everyone!:mrgreen:

Welcome!

Jake will have his boy and he is 3.

Kev just tell your girl she can sleep with Sarah in her tent. Then if you puke it just goes all over you and not her.

I am going to do pulled pork for the potluck with rice and lemon cookies. If you guys want bananna boats bring a bananna. I will bring chocolate and marshemellows and will make them for you! or at least show ya how. There are nummy!!!! Kev I will bring bananna for you as b-day present.

[abirken]

Watch out for that girl Ang.......she's trouble. :lol8::twisted: Glad she introduced herself!!!! See ya'll next week, with banana in hand. :slobber:

[Pelon1]

We have an extra bedroom and floor space if anyone on their way to or from Zion needs a place to stay. Let us know.

[thedesertnomad]

Randi. I have passed the Canyoneering test on the shoulder. I would love to accompany you IF... you still have room and I don't have to work that day. Yes, I actually got a job after over a year, 3rd temporary retirement is over starting tomorrow!

[Randi]

Randi. I have passed the Canyoneering test on the shoulder. I would love to accompany you IF... you still have room and I don't have to work that day.

Would LOVE to have you join us! If you're not working! And maybe Tim & Nickie too! Keeping my fingers crossed! :)


Yes, I actually got a job after over a year, 3rd temporary retirement is over starting tomorrow!

Oh my - you say that like you're happy about it! What the hell's wrong with you? I've been trying to find a way to retire (even once) for years now - and you've actually retired 3TIMES already! And now you're giving up 'free' time' for a JOB!?! YUUUUCK!

[hank moon]

If you're talking to me Don about Sat. - yeah, totally open. It's only me and the kids so far. Maybe Hank too if he's able and willing (by able I mean if he's not working).

Certainly willing - hopefully able! I heart Keyhole a lotsa!

[Randi]

We have an extra bedroom and floor space if anyone on their way to or from Zion needs a place to stay. Let us know.

That's awfully nice of you!
Whether anyone takes you up on the offer or not, - thanks for making the offer! :)

[Pelon1]

No problem, we know its nice to take a shower after a few days of camping! We are planning on coming up to the potluck and bringing a smoked turkey. I am thinking around 5-6pm. Been needing to meet some Bogleyites:clap:

[ststephen]

No problem, we know its nice to take a shower after a few days of camping! We are planning on coming up to the potluck and bringing a smoked turkey. I am thinking around 5-6pm. Been needing to meet some Bogleyites:clap:

Excellent; the more the merrier! If anyone wants to come up on Thursday night as well we're planning on dinner out as a group. I think at the Pizza and Noodle Co. I don't know if a time has been picked yet...watch this space...

[blueeyes]

Excellent; the more the merrier! If anyone wants to come up on Thursday night as well we're planning on dinner out as a group. I think at the Pizza and Noodle Co. I don't know if a time has been picked yet...watch this space...

Thanks for reminding me! That is one less meal to plan for on my shopping list.

[abirken]

Thanks for reminding me! That is one less meal to plan for on my shopping list.


Ditto that!!! One less dinner to worry about for sure. :lol8:

[Cirrus2000]

Post about dinner Thursday:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39304

I'm guessing 6 to 6:30 at the Pizza & Noodle? Anyone?


As for canyons/hikes I'm planning:

Friday: Angels Landing (maybe another day?), Yankee Doodle or Lower Fridge, Keyhole.

I plan to do both Keyhole and Pine Creek on Saturday. I have a 12 spot permit for Keyhole (9 free), and hope to get a walk-in for Pine Creek. Anybody want to join?

I still have a reservation for 6 in Mystery on Sunday, but the flows do not seem to be tapering off yet, with 5 days to go. Hmmm. Behunin is a backup - 6 spots (3 of us)
:popcorn:

[blueeyes]

Kev do you think Sarah and I would be ok for one of those spots?

[Cirrus2000]

Kev do you think Sarah and I would be ok for one of those spots?
Do you mean Keyhole? Absolutely - that would be great! (Going in there on both Friday and Saturday. Not sure of times yet - we can discuss on Thursday evening!)

[ststephen]

I'm leaning towards doing Subway on Friday, but want to get a little more beta on flow levels. My family (3 of us) are up for Keyhole and Pine Creek as well. Love to join you Kev on Saturday if that makes sense. Or there is enough interested people maybe we can organize another walk-in permit group Sat or Sun?

[Randi]

I'm leaning towards doing Subway on Friday, but want to get a little more beta on flow levels. My family (3 of us) are up for Keyhole and Pine Creek as well. Love to join you Kev on Saturday if that makes sense. Or there is enough interested people maybe we can organize another walk-in permit group Sat or Sun?

Maybe I should jump on your Sat. permit too Kev so the girls and I have a group to go with!
My few interested/semi interested parties are maybes! That would be Don & E and Hank.
So yeah, go ahead and add us three!

If more people wanna do Keyhole on Sat. - I can go ahead & keep the permit I have and just reduce the numbers.
Sucks in situations like this that you can't have more than 12 in a group.

[Don]

Yeah, E and I are on board for Keyhole. Either Friday or Saturday; we've got an open schedule, but would rather do it with a big-fun-group! He may be a little slow on rappels. In fact, he will not be rappeling; he will need to be lowered down or go dual with me. I'll be bringing all my hardware and ropes and plan to rent him a wetsuit & helmet.

[Cirrus2000]

Helmet - I'm planning on just having the kids use their bike helmets. Is there a downside to that? Would I be better off renting? We will rent wetsuits for them. Perhaps footwear as well.

[Don]

The guy at Zion Rock & Mt said he'd throw in a helmet with a wetsuit rental.

[blueeyes]

We will be renting wet suits (i hate wet suits). I have lots of questions about taking her through but we can talk about that Thursday night.

[Randi]

Yeah, E and I are on board for Keyhole. Either Friday or Saturday; we've got an open schedule, but would rather do it with a big-fun-group! He may be a little slow on rappels. In fact, he will not be rappeling; he will need to be lowered down or go dual with me. I'll be bringing all my hardware and ropes and plan to rent him a wetsuit & helmet.

Kev - what does your Friday group for Keyhole look like?

If you get in on Kev's Fri. trip - I'll bail on my Keyhole permit and go with Kev Sat.
If not, I'll keep my permit and we will be a small FUN group! Maybe bigger if more folks sign on.

I think wet-suits can be rented over at ZAC's for $15
How big is E Don? I might have a suit that will fit him - it's smallish - used to be Rachael's when she was 12 or so.
I'll bring what I have. Have you guys been keeping an eye on the weather forecast?
Looks like Sun is gonna be iffy - 60% chance of rain.

[Cirrus2000]

I don't have any commitments from anyone for my Keyhole spots, except Cher

[ststephen]

[QUOTE=Cirrus2000;402579]I don't have any commitments from anyone for my Keyhole spots, except Cher

[Randi]

Oh wait! I totally forgot about Bill, Nicki and Tim! I think they're on-board for Keyhole too!
Or at least two of them are! :)
I guess we got ourselves a group after all! :mrgreen:

[Cirrus2000]

We want to do it with you on Sat! PC too for that matter.

Duh! Sorry! OK, 6 of us in Keyhole and Pine Creek on Saturday. So if Randi et al joined, that would make 9-10 for Keyhole. Then we'd see about Hank - it would be great if he could make it.

Perhaps D&E and C&S could go on Friday, and see how they & the kids liked it, and see if they'd do it again the next day. (I think I'll be convincing my kids to go both days, but I'll try to be - moderately - flexible.:haha:)

Edited to add: Hang on - it looks like 2 groups for sure, anyway!!!

[Don]

As much as I don't want to miss out on the big group Saturday I think Friday would be better for me & E to do Keyhole. Josh is coming down Friday night so he'll have his daughters and I'm sure E would like to hike Saturday with his cousins. We're not sure where yet, but our Saturday will probably have to be non-technical.

[abirken]

I have to hike a non-technical weekend because Aidan isn't quite Keyhole or PC ready. :cry1: It's all good though. There are so many places I haven't seen yet in Zion so it will be fine. :haha:

Oh and my friend Deb and her son are not able to make it, but another friend and her son will fill Deb's campspot. Their names are Kristel and River. :)

[Cirrus2000]

I have to hike a non-technical weekend because Aidan isn't quite Keyhole or PC ready. :cry1: It's all good though. There are so many places I haven't seen yet in Zion so it will be fine. :haha:

Oh and my friend Deb and her son are not able to make it, but another friend and her son will fill Deb's campspot. Their names are Kristel and River. :)

Keyhole is very beginner friendly... :nod:

I just kind of assumed that everyone from Glenwood Springs was coming... :haha:

[Win]

A great hike would be to take the kids to Cave Valley. Pretty easy hiking, nice pictographs, a neat cave and a bit of scrambling at the back of the valley to a nice viewpoint. I'd be up for leading a hike out there Saturday if anyone is interested. No crowds, either!! This is about 8 miles up Kolob Terrace Rd.

Win

[Randi]

A great hike would be to take the kids to Cave Valley. Pretty easy hiking, nice pictographs, a neat cave and a bit of scrambling at the back of the valley to a nice viewpoint. I'd be up for leading a hike out there Saturday if anyone is interested. No crowds, either!! This is about 8 miles up Kolob Terrace Rd.

Win

Hi Win! Are you and Yo going to come by the camp on Sat. night? We're having a potluck, but I can't say what time! ;)
It would be nice to see you!
Have you ever hiked Taylor Creek?
How kid friendly is that one, if you have?
And which fork would you say is the nicest?

[abirken]

Ok cool! Well if there are spots or permits open for Keyhole, I am sure my adventurous 6 year old would want to go with. It'd be mommy's dream come true to have him do a canyon with me. He's like a little mountain goat anyhow. I'll just wait to get to camp and speak with everyone to find out who is doing what. :nod: Speaking of Zion this weekend, I better get downstairs and start dragging camp gear BACK up for the 4th time in the last month. HAHA!! Need to take inventory of the food container. :mrgreen: Getting excited!!!!

[Win]

Randi, we are planning on coming out Sat nite with a few others to pay a visit. We'll be bringing something to eat, not sure what Yo has planned.

Middle Fork is the way to go. You're hiking in and out of the creek and it's really pretty. One of our favorite hikes.

Win

[blueeyes]

I was hoping to pull out a here tonight. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!:cry1: Oh well first thing in the AM. See ya all Thursday.

[Jaxx]

So what are the plans for meeting up. Mabey we could get Kev to mention it in his first post?

[Erik]

Hello all. I'm brand new on here, and to canyoneering as well (though I've done a lot of technical rock routes in Colorado). Trying to get to Zion this weekend -- would be great to meet some others! Never been to Zion -- any chance of showing up Friday and finding a campsite (for 1 tent) anywhere?

[Don]

Jaxx,
We're meeting for dinner at the Pizza Noodle tomorrow evening around 6-6:30.
I haven't heard plans for Friday night dinner (I'll either cook in camp or hit that Thai place just outside the park).
We're doing a Pot-Luck dinner Saturday night, I haven’t heard a time for that but, just come by Saturday evening. We're monopolizing the D-loop in Watchman (Loop D sites: 06, 08, 15, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34) just come around and look for Bogley stickers and tee-shirts.
I don't have details for meeting up for hiking. I assumed we'd get all that sorted at the Pizza Noodle...

Erik,
Can't speak for everyone but I've got a full site. Probably worth you time to come around though; even if there's no room for you we could point you in the right direction and you'll be able to hook up with us for hiking...

[Felicia]

My kid arrive there this morning.

Everyone: have fun and play safe!!!!

[Don]

Out the door! E and I are on the road! We'll likely stay around Cedar tonight. Might even find a hotel with a pool just for the fun of it. See you tomorrow!

[Don]

Jeep took a dump. At this point I don't know if it's the radiator or a hose 'cause the fluid had gotten into the fan so everything is wet. E and I found a reasonably priced room and I talked 'em into a vet discount. We'll figure out the Jeep in the morning. And my little brother pointed out that there are worse things than spending the night in Beaver.

[Cirrus2000]

And my little brother pointed out that there are worse things than spending the night in Beaver.
:roflol::roflol:

Hey - family forum here! :nono:

Better still make dinner tomorrow! :popcorn:

Oh, and I'm languishing at the Mandalay Bay hotel right now. Such a long elevator ride ride to the 34th floor - and the hallway to the room is about a block long! Looking forward to Watchman tomorrow night.

[Erik]

Thanks! If I can get down there I will definitely stop by to say hello and try to meet up for some hiking.

[oldno7]

Any thoughts on what to bring to Sat. potluck? The wife and I will be coming down and going to the potluck with Win and Yo and Thane and Dana.

[ststephen]

Any thoughts on what to bring to Sat. potluck? The wife and I will be coming down and going to the potluck with Win and Yo and Thane and Dana.

Excellent, glad you're coming down!

Good question. Items which can't be cooked quickly at the campground are a good bet: potato salad, chili. Are there vegetarians among the group? Always good to have something w/o meat. Meat wise I've heard about a smoked turkey and I'm going to do a tri tip for fajitas.

Gotta go load the car and head out now...

[Win]

We're thinking Potato Salad, if someone else goes that way we'll adapt.

Win

[Cirrus2000]

Any thoughts on what to bring to Sat. potluck? The wife and I will be coming down and going to the potluck with Win and Yo and Thane and Dana.

No thoughts on what to bring ('cuz I'm no good at that), but :2thumbs:!

[accadacca]

I just passed a Subaru heading south, towing a trailer, with a bogley sticker in the back window and loaded for bear! It was blueeyes! I was headed to work... :cry1:

Must be a BogleyFest down south. :clap:

[Pelon1]

I hope everybody had a good time, it sure was nice to meet some people. Anxious to hear how the night Keyhole trip was, bottom up!?!?

[MSchasch]

Anxious to hear how the night Keyhole trip was
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mschasch/sets/72157624119843506/

[Don]

Today I have the opposite of homesick.

[abirken]

I love that Kev wore his Lei in Keyhole................awesome!!!!:hail2thechief:

[Don]

Speaking of Kevin, last night before bed I told E he's my favorite hiking partner; above all my other hiking partners and E asked 'Even better than Kevin or Josh?' I told him 'heck yeah.' Better than the best.

[Randi]

I love that Kev wore his Lei in Keyhole................awesome!!!!:hail2thechief:

Me too! Kev also brought these cute little mini-glow sticks for all of us to adorn our helmets & bodies with! They made great antenna, that unfortunately don’t show up in the pix. Thanks for bringing a camera btw Mike!

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Springdale headline which reads: Tourists driving late at night along highway nine, spot giant ninja bugs from outer space!

Keyhole at night was a blast! And a night descent lent itself very well to jumping out and scaring the bejeezes out of unsuspecting friends! :lol8:

I’m just bummed that I didn’t get to spend more time at camp – drinking, eating and conversing with a bunch of you! It was good while it lasted, and I can’t wait to do it again. Alison, one of these days we WILL get into a canyon together!!!

Great food! Great people! AMAZING Zion! ♥

[hank moon]

Hey, it was great to meet DeathCricket/Jacob Joshua/Otis, Cherie, Eric, Sarah, jaxx, Chububilim, Trent, Canyon Mike, the other Mike, and to see Randi, Kevin, and after so long ! Keyhole at night - yay! Gotta become a B-fest tradition. Next time w/beach balls!

[Felicia]

I'm game for next year!!!

[blueeyes]

I just passed a Subaru heading south, towing a trailer, with a bogley sticker in the back window and loaded for bear! It was blueeyes! I was headed to work... :cry1:

Must be a BogleyFest down south. :clap:

As you came up on me I thought to myself.... that looks like Scott on his Beemer. And it was!! Wish ya was headed south with the rest of us.


Today I have to opposite of homesick.

Me too! :cry1:

Can't wait for the next get together. Do we have to wait until next year??? I hope not.

There was talk about taking Winterfest to Colorado.... going Alison's way for some snowshoeing hut to hut.

I love Don's idea of Escalante.

Anyhoo I can't wait!

[Erik]

So I took a couple of wanders through Watchman loop D, and saw this Jeep with a Bogley sticker... Turned out to be Don, who was kind enough to not only share some space in his campsite but get my instantly hooked up for trip down Pine Creek with Cirrus200, ststephen and crew! It was a great trip and I'm really glad I got to meet so many of you. Looking forward to many more!

[ststephen]

Turned out to be Don, who was kind enough to not only share some space in his campsite but get my instantly hooked up for trip down Pine Creek with Cirrus200, ststephen and crew! It was a great trip and I'm really glad I got to meet so many of you.

It was great to have you join us. Plus Erik brews a mean cup of joe! :nod:

[trackrunner]

so did anyone go down Subway. I have a full left fork planned here in a few days. thinking there may be too much snow and water for upper left fork.

[ststephen]

Sorry, I bailed on Subway. I hadn't heard anything positive about conditions and then I was feeling like it would be more fun to be with "the gang" vs. just the 3 of us, so I did not use my permit. Oh, well. Have to hit it next time...

[Cirrus2000]

trip down Pine Creek with Cirrus200, ststephen and crew!

Damn, I've been demoted... :haha:

Was excellent having you along, Erik! Man, that was a good time, one and all. I agree with Randi, it was great doing the midnight Keyhole, but hanging out with everybody at the campground would have been great, too!

I'm recovering in Vegas (:lol8: - seriously?!?) right now, with lots percolating through my head from the last couple of weeks. Between shows, showgirls, and rowdy drinking binges, I hope to start uploading some photos, vids and reports over the next 23 hours before my flight home.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: