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accadacca
11-23-2009, 11:45 AM
1. Have an argument. Once you start an argument, not a discussion, you've already lost. Think about it: have you ever changed your mind because someone online started yelling at you? They might get you to shut up, but it's unlikely they've actually changed your opinion.
2. Forget the pitfalls of Godwin's law. Any time you mention Hitler or even Communist China or Bill O'Reilly, you've lost.
3. Use faulty analogies. If someone is trying to make a point about, say, health care, try to make an analogy to something conceptually unrelated, like the space shuttle program, and you've lost.
4. Question motives. The best way to get someone annoyed and then have them ignore you is to bypass any thoughtful discussion of facts and instead question what's in it for the person on the other end. Make assumptions about their motivations and lose their respect.
5. Act anonymously. What are the chances that heckled comments from the bleachers will have an impact?
6. Threaten to take action in another venue. Insist that this will come back to haunt the other person. Guarantee you will spread the word or stop purchasing.
7. Bring up the slippery slope. Actually, the slope isn't that slippery. People don't end up marrying dogs, becoming cannibals or harvesting organs because of changes in organization, technology or law.
8. Go to the edges. This is a variant of the slippery slope, in which you bring up extremes at either end of whatever spectrum is being discussed.

So, what works?

Earn a reputation. Have a conversation. Ask questions. Describe possible outcomes of a point of view. Make connections. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt. Align objectives then describe a better outcome. Show up. Smile.


http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/11/how-to-lose-an-argument-online.html

DiscGo
11-23-2009, 02:16 PM
Why ever would you post that on Bogley? Nobody ever argues around here. Especially as Winter creeps in on us :) :haha:

denaliguide
11-23-2009, 04:40 PM
and remember, even if you win, you are still an idiot.

accadacca
11-24-2009, 08:19 AM
and remember, even if you win, you are still an idiot. :lol8: I know Iceaxe has a rather inappropriate picture that describes this.

I like this last part best. "Earn a reputation. Have a conversation. Ask questions. Describe possible outcomes of a point of view. Make connections. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt. Align objectives then describe a better outcome. Show up. Smile."

DiscGo
11-24-2009, 08:30 AM
I was thinking about this post and I decided I wanted to argue it. This article is like Bill O'Reily infused with a steroids shot of communism and Nazism. Why would you even post this unless you were just trying to stir the pot? I think you are just trying to cause controversy. I am just commenting on this to represent those who are too timid to post. I guarantee that I will spread the word on other outdoor forums about you. You start with a post like this and it is only a slipper slope to cannibalism.






:haha:

I think I nailed all the points of suggestion.

Sombeech
11-24-2009, 09:18 AM
It is my strong opinion that whoever has the highest post count is always right.

DiscGo
11-24-2009, 10:21 AM
It is my strong opinion that whoever has the highest post count is always right.

I have always been more partial to the people with the 5th, 6th, and 7th most posts.