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livelife
11-16-2009, 03:42 PM
I want to find someone in Utah that can take me out down south and show me how to live off the land and how to survive if I had to. Anyone know anyone that does this? I of course am willing to pay. Thanks!

BruteForce
11-16-2009, 03:53 PM
A few questions for you:

- Where "down south" did you have in mind?
- What kind of time frame did you expect to be living off the land?
- What experience do you have (any Military SERE or Desert Survival)?
- Have you ever hunted or trapped big or small game?
- Own any rifles or shotguns?

* I'm not suggesting I'm your person, just helping you out.

CarpeyBiggs
11-16-2009, 04:09 PM
live entirely off the land? i don't think it is legally possible. what would your food sources be? without hunting/trapping/growing food i don't see it happening.

if you want to live off the land, you gotta go somewhere that nature will provide, like the tropics. the desert is probably not that place...

YMMV

DOSS
11-16-2009, 04:17 PM
live entirely off the land? i don't think it is legally possible. what would your food sources be? without hunting/trapping/growing food i don't see it happening.

if you want to live off the land, you gotta go somewhere that nature will provide, like the tropics. the desert is probably not that place...

YMMV

lots of Jackrabbits, Coyotes, and some snakes that are not protected can be hunted any time of the year and eaten... mayhap not the best tasting but when it comes to survival? also lots of bugs and a sprinkling of plants if you know what you are looking for. water is the big one but still not that bad :) I don't see why you would want to learn survival techniques for the tropics if you live in a desert, you never know when your skills at staying alive will come in handy be it getting lost or the zombie Apocalypse :rockon:

Sombeech
11-16-2009, 04:48 PM
I would suggest somewhere in the Uintas with good fishing. It depends how isolated you want to be, and what you plan to eat.

You'll run into regulations on fires, things like that. There are a lot of things to consider when living off the land. I think you can be taught how to prepare and what you WOULD do, but like Carpey said, you'd be running into a lot of legal issues.

bbennett
11-16-2009, 04:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R25Eflr0oJ8&NR=1

CarpeyBiggs
11-16-2009, 05:35 PM
live entirely off the land? i don't think it is legally possible. what would your food sources be? without hunting/trapping/growing food i don't see it happening.

if you want to live off the land, you gotta go somewhere that nature will provide, like the tropics. the desert is probably not that place...

YMMV

lots of Jackrabbits, Coyotes, and some snakes that are not protected can be hunted any time of the year and eaten... mayhap not the best tasting but when it comes to survival? also lots of bugs and a sprinkling of plants if you know what you are looking for. water is the big one but still not that bad :) I don't see why you would want to learn survival techniques for the tropics if you live in a desert, you never know when your skills at staying alive will come in handy be it getting lost or the zombie Apocalypse :rockon:

I kind of thought he meant living off the land permanently... That's why I suggested going somewhere else. Maybe he just wants a weeklong experience?

DOSS
11-16-2009, 06:35 PM
live entirely off the land? i don't think it is legally possible. what would your food sources be? without hunting/trapping/growing food i don't see it happening.

if you want to live off the land, you gotta go somewhere that nature will provide, like the tropics. the desert is probably not that place...

YMMV

lots of Jackrabbits, Coyotes, and some snakes that are not protected can be hunted any time of the year and eaten... mayhap not the best tasting but when it comes to survival? also lots of bugs and a sprinkling of plants if you know what you are looking for. water is the big one but still not that bad :) I don't see why you would want to learn survival techniques for the tropics if you live in a desert, you never know when your skills at staying alive will come in handy be it getting lost or the zombie Apocalypse :rockon:

I kind of thought he meant living off the land permanently... That's why I suggested going somewhere else. Maybe he just wants a weeklong experience?

a month is the same as a week.. in survival terms you need the same things.. after that you are looking at more sustainable living and that can be done in southern Utah without that much hassle (relatively speaking) and the skills are then again just adaptations of the skills you needed for surviving for a week to a month.
in a survival situation (not counting zombie apocalypse) and you are just trying to survive until you can be found or get back to civilization you should only have to survive at most 2 weeks off the land (Generally you can make it to civilization anywhere in the lower 48 states within that much time at a long sauntering walk from wherever you are).. yes there are many other factors involved :).. I would too much rather survive in a tropical environment but living in Utah and playing where I like to play has kinda swayed me to learning the skills to live off the land here as well it seems livelife has.

anyhow I would start by reading this :)

http://www.humboldt.edu/~hsusnc/FM%2021-76%20US%20ARMY%20SURVIVAL%20MANUAL.pdf

Deeps
11-19-2009, 10:33 AM
Call Guy Dumas. He's got experience with this sort of thing and I can vouch he's not a nut.

four three five, eight two zero, forty five hundred.

I told him about this thread, tell him Deanpaul suggested you call.

Iceaxe
11-19-2009, 11:06 AM
When you say "down south", if you mean the Colorado Plateau than this might be the guys you want to contact:

Ancient Pathways
http://www.apathways.com

They have a course list and price guide posted on their website.

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