Moron tourists abusing spiders in Utah

[KapitanSparrow]

I came across this sick video of some bastard tourists tormenting spiders in Utah. Yeah, opinions on spiders may vary but you don't go around torturing them for your fcuking amusement. And certainly let them be in the wild. Morons! :frustrated:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kCUZTwTYI4

[canyonphile]

Ah...some Eurotrash douch-bags. :roll:

I see they are climbers as well. You'd think they'd: 1) be more interested in spending their time preparing for their climb; 2) as outdoorsy types, they'd have some level of respect for nature and not just as something to be exploited and toyed with at their whim. Idiots.

Besides, tarantuas are awesome. I've only seen a handful in the wild, though. One was in the middle of a dirt road, so we stopped and escorted him to the side so he wouldn't be run over.

[bbennett]

All aboard the sensitivity train!

Call me callous, but this doesn't bother me in the least. Are we to care about a spiders' feelings? Seriously? :roll:

[slickrocker]

Killing spiders in the desert is bad juju.Torturing them might even be worse. They appear to fit the classic age/sex profile of those few that get bit by rattlers every year as well, usually by doing to a snake what they were doing to that tarantula.
Meanwhile, I'll compose another verse to my song, "I'm Gonna Kill a Tourist before I Die."

[live2ride]

Are you kidding me? I hope you posted this as a joke :roflol: lets get mad at all the kids that pulled off grashoppers legs then, THOSE SICK KIDS! Poor spider! I was waiting for them to stomp on it our something, looks like it was running away with hurt feelings and crying. :roflol:

[KapitanSparrow]

There's a difference when a kid does it and where a moron adult does it. Do you have a pet dog or a cat? How about I kick your dog and throw your cat againt a wall? It's fun to torture spiders why not cats and dogs? If you don't get that than you're not better than those moron tourists. I can understand killing a spider when it crawls around your house and there's a chance it might bite someone. But torturing it for the fun of it is just moronic. And these morons apparently have mindsets of little kids.

[TreeHugger]

There's a difference when a kid does it and where a moron adult does it. Do you have a pet dog or a cat? How about I kick your dog and throw your cat againt a wall? It's fun to torture spiders why not cats and dogs? If you don't get that than you're not better than those moron tourists. I can understand killing a spider when it crawls around your house and there's a chance it might bite someone. But torturing it for the fun of it is just moronic. And these morons apparently have mindsets of little kids.

I agree with Kapitan. Not OK.

[tallsteve]

I didn't like that either. Maybe it's because as a kid I did allot of that which I now regret. I do enjoy jack-rabbit hunting now though so maybe I'm hypocritical!

[live2ride]

Spider and dog vs. cat have no comparison? IT IS A SPIDER!! Do you step on Ants? Do you swat Fly's? It would be different if we were talking about a warm blooded dog or cat that have brains and are looked as pets.

I sure hope you are nor a hunter or fisherman, or swat bees that are in the great outdoors...This is Hilarious...wait I will be back I think I see a spider..... :roflol:

[KapitanSparrow]

Spider and dog vs. cat have no comparison? IT IS A SPIDER!! Do you step on Ants? Do you swat Fly's? It would be different if we were talking about a warm blooded dog or cat that have brains and are looked as pets.

I sure hope you are nor a hunter or fisherman, or swat bees that are in the great outdoors...This is Hilarious...wait I will be back I think I see a spider..... :roflol:

I do not step on ants intentionally. I kill flies and mosquitos because they shit on your food and sting you. I can perfectly well defend myself from a bee without having to kill it. Spiders are very useful animals in the great scheme of nature. Unfortunately, aside from people who simply fear spiders, there are morons out there who seem to think that spiders are out to get them and that they are doing a great service to the humanity by killing them or at the very least torturing them. Perhaps you're one of them.

What's hilarious is you comparing hunting and fishing to simple torture of an innocent animal for the benefit and amusement of someone's underdeveloped brain cells. A spider should bite your ass so at least you'd have a valid vendetta against it. :roflol:

[asdf]

There's a difference when a kid does it and where a moron adult does it. Do you have a pet dog or a cat? How about I kick your dog and throw your cat againt a wall? It's fun to torture spiders why not cats and dogs? If you don't get that than you're not better than those moron tourists. I can understand killing a spider when it crawls around your house and there's a chance it might bite someone. But torturing it for the fun of it is just moronic. And these morons apparently have mindsets of little kids.

I agree with Kapitan. Not OK.

same

[Kent K25]

Add to that the fact that many people keep tarantulas as pets. I hate cats, I'd much rather have a Tarantula as a pet.

[live2ride]

Spider and dog vs. cat have no comparison? IT IS A SPIDER!! Do you step on Ants? Do you swat Fly's? It would be different if we were talking about a warm blooded dog or cat that have brains and are looked as pets.

I sure hope you are nor a hunter or fisherman, or swat bees that are in the great outdoors...This is Hilarious...wait I will be back I think I see a spider..... :roflol:

I do not step on ants intentionally. I kill flies and mosquitos because they shit on your food and sting you. I can perfectly well defend myself from a bee without having to kill it. Spiders are very useful animals in the great scheme of nature. Unfortunately, aside from people who simply fear spiders, there are morons out there who seem to think that spiders are out to get them and that they are doing a great service to the humanity by killing them or at the very least torturing them. Perhaps you're one of them.

What's hilarious is you comparing hunting and fishing to simple torture of an innocent animal for the benefit and amusement of someone's underdeveloped brain cells. A spider should bite your ass so at least you'd have a valid vendetta against it. :roflol:


So fishing does no torturing to any fish for peoples amusement Isn't that the point of catch and release? I know first hand you can't salavage every fish you catch and guess what some people also have fish as pets?? You must want to Kill Bear Grills and Les stroud for killing spiders, snakes etc for a TV show.....

P.S. No spiders were harmed while writing this response.....

[KapitanSparrow]

If you take this route then you might as well accuse me of eating beef, pork and all kinds of other animals. Let's just say that fishing is more civilized and serves some sort of a purpose: people do it for food and for sport. Killing wild spiders serves no purpose, except it allows some morons to feel good about themselves. How about the bald eagle? Other than being our nation's symbol it is not different than a stupid spider in that it does not serve any purpose. Let's start killing bald eagles! Yey! :roflol:

[bbennett]

Through my experience, there's only 4 things that I prefer not to be in close proximity to; 1: Snakes 2: Sharks 3: Spiders, and 4: Serbian Soldiers
I don't think it would be a tragedy to take the life of a member of any of those 4 groups. If a fly or spider needs killing, by all means, kill the bastard. This world has become way too sensitive for it own good.
Were I to come along the trail and seen these guys doing this, my response most likely would have been; "Holy shit, a tarantula!" Beyond that, I don't think I would have been offended by their actions. For God's sake, they flung it off of a stick and threw some chalk on it. If this is your definition of torture, you really should do some research on the subject.

[Scott P]

For God's sake, they flung it off of a stick and threw some chalk on it.

I would bet that you would complain if I came by and did something like that to your golden retriever just because they didn't like it. maybe we should all remember that if we ever see you on the trail.

I don't really like dogs or cats, but it doesn't mean I go around kicking them whenever I see them. Our neighbor's dogs constantly bark and even though I don't like them, I wouldn't shoot or torture them.


If a fly or spider needs killing, by all means, kill the bastard.

And why would the spider "need killing"? It is non-poisionous and harmless.

[Ih8grvty]

Spider and dog vs. cat have no comparison? IT IS A SPIDER!! Do you step on Ants? Do you swat Fly's? It would be different if we were talking about a warm blooded dog or cat that have brains and are looked as pets.

I sure hope you are nor a hunter or fisherman, or swat bees that are in the great outdoors...This is Hilarious...wait I will be back I think I see a spider..... :roflol:

I do not step on ants intentionally. I kill flies and mosquitos because they shit on your food and sting you. I can perfectly well defend myself from a bee without having to kill it. Spiders are very useful animals in the great scheme of nature. Unfortunately, aside from people who simply fear spiders, there are morons out there who seem to think that spiders are out to get them and that they are doing a great service to the humanity by killing them or at the very least torturing them. Perhaps you're one of them.

What's hilarious is you comparing hunting and fishing to simple torture of an innocent animal for the benefit and amusement of someone's underdeveloped brain cells. A spider should bite your ass so at least you'd have a valid vendetta against it. :roflol:

For the most part I agree with you, but...

If a bee is around my house, its dead, I keep ant traps out and kill all of them that enter my house or yard. I spray for spiders all the time, and keep glue boards in areas that the dog and cat do not get in to .
Torture is one thing, killing is another. IF I was camping and some big ass spider came crawling along my tent, its dead, but I wouldnt torture it.
I can not how ever compare a spider to my dog or my wifes cat.
My dog is loyal and smart and protective and knows her name and knows each member of the family, a spider has not the brains to do any of that, even the wifes cat plays, knows us and comes to see us and sleeps in our bed.
I have more compassion for fish than I do for insects or arachnids.

[bbennett]

Scott, if you can get my Golden on a stick, by all means, feel free to fling him off of the thing. I'm sure he'd like it as well. After all, everything's a game to him.
I didn't say that this spider needed killing. But if there's one in my house, it will die.
Personally, I don't think that a spider is comparable to either a dog or a bald eagle. But apparently, that's just me.

[canyonphile]

To me, it's more the principle of the whole thing: why do it? :ne_nau: It served absolutely no purpose to go messing with a small, defenseless and harmless creature that was in no way threatening or bothering those assclowns. Who cares if it was just a spider? Why not just leave it alone? I've happened upon rattlers a few times when I've been out hiking and trail running, and it never even entered my mind to kill them. Like tarantulas, they are beneficial to keeping other populations under control and are a part of the ecosystem.

I kill some spiders and other bugs in my house (we've got one in the corner of our bedroom that stays put and probably ate the stray mosquitos that were finding their way inside). I also have no qualms about setting out traps for the mice that find their way into our house. They are cute, but finding their turds among my kitchen utensils is not. My cat has been rather effective at getting rid of them, which saves me the trouble. I just wish he'd eat them so they don't go to waste.

Last summer, I was okay to live and let live with the wasps flying around on our deck, even though I don't like them. That changed when one stung me on the leg because I walked by its new nest on the stairs. Bad move there. Out came the can of Raid, and all nearby wasp nests are destroyed. Hornets, yellow jackets and wasps in my house get killed. The bumblebee that crawled on my foot down in my studio (still have no idea how it got inside!) got scooped up in a container and set outside, unharmed.

So, it's easy for me to make a distinction on what lives and what doesn't. I don't kill anything I find out in its natural environment unless it's causing a problem for me, which is exceedingly rare (like, crawling on me...it's going to get smashed just because that's how I react).

[Reedus]

Spider got off easy. I would have pulled its legs off one by one and then cooked it alive and watch it burn to death. :nod:

[James_B_Wads2000]

Spider got off easy. I would have pulled its legs off one by one and then cooked it alive and watch it burn to death. :nod:

You just couldn't resist chiming in, could you? :roll:



James

[Cirrus2000]

Hey, at least they're not eating them alive, like these 8-legged delicacies...

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/player/places/culture-places/food/skorea-liveoctopus-pp.html

[live2ride]

Scott, if you can get my Golden on a stick, by all means, feel free to fling him off of the thing. I'm sure he'd like it as well. After all, everything's a game to him.
I didn't say that this spider needed killing. But if there's one in my house, it will die.
Personally, I don't think that a spider is comparable to either a dog or a bald eagle. But apparently, that's just me.

:roflol: That is too funny, but yet true. I would love to see a dog get flung off a stick having fun.

[hank moon]

Through my experience, there's only 4 things that I prefer not to be in close proximity to; 1: Snakes 2: Sharks 3: Spiders, and 4: American Soldiers
I don't think it would be a tragedy to take the life of a member of any of those 4 groups.

[hank moon]

And why would the spider "need killing"? It is non-poisionous and harmless.


The spider "needs killing" because it elicits fear in the observer. Since the observer cannot (and/or makes no effort to) eliminate the fear within, the spider/scapegoat takes the fall. Simple matter of convenience.

[Ih8grvty]

And why would the spider "need killing"? It is non-poisionous and harmless.


The spider "needs killing" because it elicits fear in the observer. Since the observer cannot (and/or makes no effort to) eliminate the fear within, the spider/scapegoat takes the fall. Simple matter of convenience.

Non poisonous ?
OK
Harmless? no
It causes harm when it bites, it hurts!
nothing permanent or life threatening, I agree.
If it was near my camp Id kill it. If I was walking along and found it, Id just get away from it, like I have done so many times in the past.
I do have a story about being attacked by one of these on a deer hunt many years back above stansbury. I have a witness as well, and noone believes me, but my dad who was my witness, and actually the one that was attacked while we walked down a dirt road towards the truck at dusk.
killed that one and not 50 feet further same thing happened again, and we killed that one, a half mile or so further and it happened once more.

[Reedus]

Spider got off easy. I would have pulled its legs off one by one and then cooked it alive and watch it burn to death. :nod:

You just couldn't resist chiming in, could you? :roll:



James

I am serious. Blows my mind how people get caught up in how a #$@#! spider gets treated. What is with you sensitive-take-offense-at-anything clowns.

[Reedus]

Spider got off easy. I would have pulled its legs off one by one and then cooked it alive and watch it burn to death. :nod:

You just couldn't resist chiming in, could you? :roll:



James
And as for chiming in.... I do a pretty good job of staying out of the majority of them on here, but when something like this pops up, gotta call it as I see it.

[KapitanSparrow]

I am not too sensitive and I do not take offense easily. I am fine with people fishing or hunting for sport. But when you go and kill or torture an animal for no good reason except to amuse yourself, then you're a moron in my book. And scholars would agree.