moab - Dipper Crk Cyn & Plaedies Canyon beta?

[jman]

I was talking to a friend at work who was a local of moab but moved to Ogden and we talked a lot about canyoneering and hikes to do down there.

He mentioned A LOT but here was 2 I haven't heard of:
Dipper Crk Cyn and Plaedies Canyon. Any info on those? I did a quick google and came up with a guided service in Moab.

Also, my coworker mentioned Entrajo. But he said that was a good beginner canyon but was about 45min drive away from Moab.

And with Plaedies he said this was somewhere in the LaSal mtns about 1 1/2 drive. He said he never did this one but others said it will soon become "near-moab's #1 canyon" to do.

[trackrunner]

Did you try a bogley search for these canyons. Several threads about Entrajo & Plaedies. A couple people have done them but no public beta has been leaked, yet. Someone here found them and last I heard was trying to get them sometime last spring early summer. Also herd he found several other similar canyons near Plaedies. Expect beta to be leaked then.

:popcorn:

I guess that MoabMatt has a financial reason why he hasn't leaked the beta. But with these gems of a canyons people have been trying to find them ever since. Some have, others haven't. Few have told where.

I think some from the ACA are going to do Entrajo & Plaedies during their Moab roundy soon.

[Iceaxe]

Two weeks ago Plaedies was still under 3' of snow...

[moab mark]

He said he never did this one but others said it will soon become "near-moab's #1 canyon" to do.

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

[Scott P]

Since those canyons are a touchy subject, I can suggest some other canyons to do in Moab that don't seem touchy.

Any of these ones are nice adventures:

http://www.summitpost.org/route/162798/c-1-approach.html

http://www.summitpost.org/route/162800/c-2-approach.html

http://www.summitpost.org/route/162802/c-3-approach.html

http://www.summitpost.org/route/162804/c-4-approach.html

http://www.summitpost.org/canyon/182257/professor-creek.html

Edit: I didn't notice before, but maybe Dipper Creek is Professor Creek? They look somewhat similar. Anyway, if it is I don't think that one would be touchy since its been published a very long time in guidebooks and now on websites.

Personally, I don't really like to publish/broadband stuff that might be touchy, but the above don't seem touchy even though they are some of the better canyons I've done in the Moab area, so I would recommend going there before trying to seek out the "touchy ones".

If you are after slot canyons, there are better places to go on the CP than Moab. All the Moab slots seem really short, at least the ones I've been in.

[moab mark]

If you are after slot canyons, there are better places to go on the CP than Moab. All the Moab slots seem really short, at least the ones I've been in.

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

The moab canyons are short. But the other parts of the CP do not have the moab diner. :2thumbs:

[goofball]

Any of these ones are nice adventures

ditto that :2thumbs: we used one to access the base of fisher towers, and i've been in all of them. very nice.

[jman]

If you are after slot canyons, there are better places to go on the CP than Moab. All the Moab slots seem really short, at least the ones I've been in.

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

The moab canyons are short. But the other parts of the CP do not have the moab diner. :2thumbs:

haha. true that.
I don't want to get in a heated thread vs. someone guiding trips for monetary reasons on BLM land vs. free usage.

Personally, Matt will still have his business - and the reason why is because the target audience is not us (necessarily). It's kind of going to Mexico on a cruise and on the ship they offer "off-shore excursions". So for example, in Puerto Vallarta there is this awesome 4+ mile zipline, rappeling adventure that costs only $45 person to do it. (It is WAY fun, cause you zipline into a 10ft cold pool above the waterfall, and then you climb out of the hole and rappell down the waterfall, and then the next waterfall you zipline through it!-but that's besides the point) But if you do it from the cruise ship it cost me nearly $200 for a 8hr journey which included the guide, travel, and a very, very cheap lunch. If you did alone and knew the area of Puerto Vallarta, then it would only cost you $45. But since the cruise ship offered all the amenities - you pay for the "convience charge." That's all what guide services do. I wanna do that sometime here locally from SLC and drive people to various destinations throughout Utah (but that's in the long distant future) and guide them through canyons, but using my expertise, attitude, safety, and humor...cause I am pretty funny.

Another thing that pissed me off since my last week trip to Moab. Some friends and I were rappelling down Corona Arch (which is on BLM land mind you) and there was a bunch of people at the bottom who were complaining that we "ruined" their pictures and "hogging" up all the arch time. I agree that there are manners to be followed, but this is BLM that I PAID for as well as everyone else, which entitles (or gives me the right, rather) to do whatever I want as long as its legal. So I let them have it and rip them a new one. I was perturped. I had an experience like that happen in Imlay, last rappel. The tourists were amazed at first, but then angry because we were "treating the national park like a playground, and rather it should be sacred and preserved." Oh man...I had a heyday with that one too. But what do you guys think about that? Would you be mad if you saw people doing that? I don't care and think its awesome that people are doing canyoneering or at least trying new things and enjoying life....geez people.
/rant


ALSO: I think Entrajo is the location wher Bear Gryllis did his Moab episodes from Man vs. Wild. It looks very, very similar. hmm... I've always wondered where he did that.

[jb]

I agree that there are manners to be followed . . . So I let them have it and rip them a new one.

Well, I wasn't there, but this seems like a rather odd notion of "manners." There are some things in life worth getting angry over--but perhaps this isn't one of them.

[ratagonia]

ALSO: I think Entrajo is the location wher Bear Gryllis did his Moab episodes from Man vs. Wild. It looks very, very similar. hmm... I've always wondered where he did that.

PART of Bear Grilled Moab was filmed at Frye Canyon on Cedar Mesa - climbing up the slot and some of the swimming.

T

[Scott P]

ALSO: I think Entrajo is the location wher Bear Gryllis did his Moab episodes from Man vs. Wild. It looks very, very similar. hmm... I've always wondered where he did that.

Bear was in Fry Canyon not far from where it goes under the freeway.


Some friends and I were rappelling down Corona Arch (which is on BLM land mind you) and there was a bunch of people at the bottom who were complaining that we "ruined" their pictures and "hogging" up all the arch time

It depends on how long it took. If they had to wait an hour or two for a photo, I can see there viewpoint. If it was only five minutes then they were just impatient.

But, why rant anyway?

I don't think Matt ever said anyone couldn't go or couldn't look for those canyons, I believe he just doesn't like them broadband. The above was just a suggestion that there are plenty of them out there. Finding a slot canyon in Utah is pretty easy. There are only what, several thousand out there. :2thumbs:

[jman]

First of all, Jp, I wasn't contradicting myself in your quote of me. Yes there is manners to be followed, such as, for example, when at Delicate Arch, you can take pictures underneath the arch but don't plan on having lunch underneath it.

When I ripped them a new one I should of said that I was implying about the BLM land issue and free-to-do-whatever I please (as long as its legal). The folks there were telling us that we cannot do whatever we want when their is a public easement involved. I told him that we were the ONLY ones there long before his group arrived. He arrived 15min into our rappelling and it took us another 15 min to finish rappelling down. It was just irritating. It's like me to saying to them that should get out of our pictures because it's ruining our rappelling pictures just in spite. But we didn't. I'm not going to rappel down areas when there are gaggles of people around. 99% of the time I'll wait until there is just 3-4 people left and almost on their way out before I start rigging it up.

Fry Canyon eh? way off on that one. thanks Tom.

[stefan]

First of all, Jp, I wasn't contradicting myself in your quote of me. Yes there is manners to be followed, such as, for example, when at Delicate Arch, you can take pictures underneath the arch but don't plan on having lunch underneath it.

When I ripped them a new one I should of said that I was implying about the BLM land issue and free-to-do-whatever I please (as long as its legal). The folks there were telling us that we cannot do whatever we want when their is a public easement involved. I told him that we were the ONLY ones there long before his group arrived. He arrived 15min into our rappelling and it took us another 15 min to finish rappelling down. It was just irritating. It's like me to saying to them that should get out of our pictures because it's ruining our rappelling pictures just in spite. But we didn't. I'm not going to rappel down areas when there are gaggles of people around. 99% of the time I'll wait until there is just 3-4 people left and almost on their way out before I start rigging it up.


there is no doubt it is irritating. at first it wasn't clear what rip them a new one meant. my mind was momentarily filled with the fraction of skiers and snowboarders that are imbued with attitude and respond with haughty retaliation. it's natural to be put on the defensive, especially when someone doesn't know what they are talking about. i am sure there have been quite a few confrontations between canyoneers and phototakers, especially in zion. it seems they should contact the land management agency with a complaint, but some feel compelled just to lash out at you. everyone responds differently. i suppose if you're in a high profile place, you might even expect that this should happen if timed just right. is there a "right" way to respond? some would prefer the passive response and not get drawn into their conflict. others respond differently. it sounds like you were more middle of the road, trying to convince them that it was perfectly legitimate, perhaps with a frustrated tone? when it comes to an individual's actions, i think it's really up to them, though everyone's got opinions about things. but i am drawn back to the skier/snowboarder issue. there is clearly a stigma this faction has acquired. that's a stigma, IMO, that canyoneers shouldn't necessarily aspire to attain. from your added comments, it doesn't sound like you crossed that line, but i can imagine a number of people responding haughtily. i suppose the other thing that comes to mind is how does it affect the group you're with. i've occasionally been in an group of people where one person will get in a conflict with another party and it causes some initially unspoken ill-will within the group.



Fry Canyon eh? way off on that one. thanks Tom.

yeah, varied locations to have all the right elements ... oh yeah an i hear he stops at hotels for the nights in between too. it's all for entertainment whether it makes sense or not

[devo_stevo]

Wait.........are you guys telling me that Discovery Channel lied to me and that Bear Grylles wasn't really in any sort of danger? Dang it. I knew I liked Survivorman better than that pretty boy Bear.

That's interesting though either way. Not being a canyoneering guy (though the more I read in here the more I want to do it), I had no idea where that was filmed down there.

[Iceaxe]

If you are after slot canyons, there are better places to go on the CP than Moab.

It depends.... if you are looking for fun slot canyons the entire family can enjoy its hard to beat Moab.

Moab will never become the epicenter of the hardcore canyoneers.... but it could easily become the epicenter for the family canyoneers.

I believe that is the reason that Moab has been overlooked for so long... the hardcore canyoneers brush the area off as not very challenging. and there are very few family canyoneers exploring new routes.

YMMV
:cool2:

[asdf]

It was just irritating. It's like me to saying to them that should get out of our pictures because it's ruining our rappelling pictures just in spite. But we didn't. I'm not going to rappel down areas when there are gaggles of people around. 99% of the time I'll wait until there is just 3-4 people left and almost on their way out before I start rigging it up.


As a photographer I can easily relate with the frustration of hiking to a spot, setting up, and waiting for "the shot" then having some random get in your photo. As far as having "a hay day" with photographers... sounds like a great way to ruffle some feathers or maybe even get an area closed off to canyoneering and rappelling.

Long story short you never know who you are running you mouth off to and this sort of situation you are representing more then just your self/group.

[jman]

I'm sure photographers like yourself, needs to have lots of patience I suppose. But I'm sure as hell I'm not going to tell you to move up and get out of our pictures. It is your right too.

My hayday comes from having lots of knowledge and experience in dealing with land issues and public easement. I myself work for the BLM and for the State and Natural Resources. When people try to argue with me over land issues, state vs. blm, blm vs. private, state vs. private, and so many other issues with public easement - and people think they have the upperhand on me especially cause I'm only 25 (you know "i'm too young to know better") - they really have no idea what they are talking about. And besides there are only a few reasons the BLM would close areas off, but NOT do to people complaining like photographs. Deaths, vegetation regrowth (or reclamation projects), protecting a certain fauna species, erosion, people breaking too many rules - such as blowing up hot springs if you go skinny dipping. And that's about it... I've heard lots of complaints especially in zion about pictures. Its federally owned (a little different than BLM but pretty much free access) and all we can really do is talk to the group and tell them to be more polite or respectful or wait for people to leave. That's NOT going to be a way to close the area. The way that it might get closed, rather in spite by the rangers, is if the Canyoneers give them lip and think they are gods and rule the place. That's what happened to Oak Creek for a while - but that was private land not public but the canyoneers where giving the owners lip and disobeying. The owners were the Shamans for awhile and told me they caught "lots" of trespassers and the police gave out quite a bit of fees.

The experience in Zion about "treating it like a playground" was similar to my previous Moab trip. No one was there when rappelling, but 1/4 way into it people started coming up and observing. They thought it was cool at first what we were doing, but then our red rope was too distracting and we should of treated the area "with more sacred-ness and reverence".

[jb]

jman, I don't think anyone is suggesting you did anything inappropriate by rappelling in Moab or Zion or anywhere else, or that you should have left. And even though it sounds like the people you met could have been more polite, it also sounds like you didn't go out of your way to smooth things over (rip them a new one??).

Around here, many people, shall we say, do not think very highly of government agencies. If you respected your employer, you would be doing whatever you could to foster positive communication between citizens and their government. Instead, you apparently feel the need to prove that you do indeed "know better" than the next guy, regardless of your age. This is exactly the sort of behavior that I hear people grouse about all the time when badmouthing public employees of all kinds, when the reality, at least in my experience, is that most of them are dedicated and very competent.

It's nothing personal. Just seems like there's little reason to have a trip spoiled by something like this. Leave the chest-beating where it belongs--on the forums. Cheers

[moabmatt]

Some friends and I were rappelling down Corona Arch (which is on BLM land mind you) and there was a bunch of people at the bottom who were complaining that we "ruined" their pictures and "hogging" up all the arch time. I agree that there are manners to be followed, but this is BLM that I PAID for as well as everyone else, which entitles (or gives me the right, rather) to do whatever I want as long as its legal. So I let them have it and rip them a new one.

Corona Arch is not on BLM land. It is located on SITLA land, which is Utah state land administered by the School and Institutional Trust Land Administration. Same goes for Medieval Chamber and Morning Glory Arch. SITLA is definitely not BLM land or even public land.

Most folks don't realize that SITLA administered areas are not public land. The state allows non-commercial folks to enter SITLA land through a mostly transparent "Right-of-Entry" permit defined in their administrative rules. This does not require any action on the part of the visitor except under certain conditions (ie, conflict with other permitted uses, etc). You say this other group mentioned a "public easement?" They may know more about the area than you think...

If SITLA, BLM, NPS, USFS or any other land management agency gets enough complaints about A-hole rappellers ripping hikers a new one (or even complaints about nice rappellers carrying on polite conversation with hikers) then they may very well consider rappelling an inappropriate activity that isn't consistent with the resource values and visitor experiences intended for the area.

Most of this state is public land and we do currently have the privilege to access much of it, but never forget that canyoneers and rappellers are minority user groups and our actions on the resource and our interactions with other user groups can have a huge impact on the future of that privilege.

[Scott P]

If SITLA, BLM, NPS, USFS or any other land management agency gets enough complaints about A-hole rappellers ripping hikers a new one (or even complaints about nice rappellers carrying on polite conversation with hikers) then they may very well consider rappelling an inappropriate activity that isn't consistent with the resource values and visitor experiences intended for the area.

SITLA definately can and does do it. They closed Nutty Putty Cave, Blowhole Cave, Silly Putty Cave and Rabbit Trap Cave because of the financial risk from liability and because it wasn't an appropriate activity. They could easily do the same in regards to rappelling Corona Bridge.


The experience in Zion about "treating it like a playground" was similar to my previous Moab trip.

I don't know where you find all these people. :ne_nau: No one has ever complained about me rappelling and I've done a fair amount of canyons and I've never heard it being a problem from others.

Anyone else have that problem? :ne_nau:

[Jaxx]

the only time I have rapped in front of hikers was Mystery in Zion. Some of the people stopped to take our pic.

[trackrunner]

Anyone else have that problem? :ne_nau:

Nope & if I did I would do the ultimate disrepect beyone "ripping someone a new one." I wouldn't even acknowledge them. Finish my activity, pack up my stuff, all at my reasonable normal pace. It's their problem they can't wait 5 minutes not mine.

[jman]

Matt, I did not know Corona Arch was SITLA...I just assumed it was BLM due to reports and misguided information. Thanks for the heads up. Knowing THAT makes a big difference. SITLA was a reason for Nutty Putty too.

Public easement is a hot topic.

Scott P. - its just my fair share of canyoneering exposure I guess or unlucky straws I'm pulling. I'm not a instigator when I go canyoneering though. I don't go up to people or groups and start fights - remember its the other way around. I just stand up for beliefs (but now I'm wrong cause I thought it was BLM). I'm not a butthead to people - but if they have incorrect facts and if I have incorrect facts I need to be corrected to.

Anywho, I digress.
Well I'm excited for Moab this weekend.

[asdf]

I'm sure photographers like yourself, needs to have lots of patience I suppose. But I'm sure as hell I'm not going to tell you to move up and get out of our pictures. It is your right too.


I have accepted the fact that in high traffic areas such as Corona you are going to have randoms in your photos. I don't have a single photo of Delicate Arch without someone under it.

[trackrunner]

I don't have a single photo of Delicate Arch without someone under it.

Maybe you should show up at night when no one is there and light a fire underneath it. :ne_nau: :haha:

[ratagonia]

I have accepted the fact that in high traffic areas such as Corona you are going to have randoms in your photos. I don't have a single photo of Delicate Arch without someone under it.

Are those my cues????
:moses:

[moab mark]

Nice picture, why doesn't some try simul rappeling there and see how that goes.

:popcorn:

[asdf]

Are those my cues????
:moses:

Nice Shot! I wish I had my own.


Last month in Arches we were set up in Skyline Arch waiting for the sunset Just as it peaked a boy and his parents walked up and sat right in my frame. Rather then freak I offered to take a shot of their son. They were pretty happy with the photo I sent them and they got out of the way so I could get my shots. :2thumbs:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3384770797_7b2673dd52.jpg

[Scott P]

For Delicate Arch, much of it depends on the time of year. There were still people when both of these were taken, but not so many that you couldn't just wait a little bit.

Feb 28 2009:

http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/494913.JPG

http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/494502.JPG

December 24 2005:

http://www.summitpost.org/images/original/142729.jpg

http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/199204.jpg

[moab mark]

When driving down the big grade on the main road if you look out towards delicate arch at the right time in the morning you can see the shadow of delicate arch on the rock behind it. It's cool if you hit it at the right time. :2thumbs:

[ratagonia]

Nice picture, why doesn't some try simul rappeling there and see how that goes.

:popcorn:

I think that's been tried. Didn't go so good.

There ARE people in this photo. This was in December, and there was a group of 3 there with me. Just as the light got good, they moved over so they were unseen behind the Arch, then moved out of the way. Amazing...

T

[oldno7]

outstanding picture Tom. :nod:

[jumar]

If you are after slot canyons, there are better places to go on the CP than Moab.

It depends.... if you are looking for fun slot canyons the entire family can enjoy its hard to beat Moab.

Moab will never become the epicenter of the hardcore canyoneers.... but it could easily become the epicenter for the family canyoneers.

I believe that is the reason that Moab has been overlooked for so long... the hardcore canyoneers brush the area off as not very challenging. and there are very few family canyoneers exploring new routes.

YMMV
:cool2:
I'm doing more and more family friendly ones these days, with little ones coming along. :2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

My two cents....

People come from all over the world to try and get a good photograph of Corona Arch.... don't mess up their pictures. Corona is a stunt rappel, hundreds of other stunt rappels nearby. If you must do it attempt to do it when the crowds a small, be quick about it, and than get the hell out of the picture....

I also have the same feeling about several other stunt rappels.... Lower Calf Creek being one of them... If you must do Lower Calf Creek, do it when the crowds are small, be quick about it, and than get the hell out of the picture....

Most photographers will not care if you mess things up for a few minutes, but if you make a big production out of it and tie up a "public treasure" for several hours for your own benefit you are a selfish dumbass and hurt all of us.

Corona Arch might be on STILE land but I think it is administered by the BLM. The route is publicized by the BLM on their website and pamphlets, the BLM cares for the trailhead and sign in box, maintains the trail.... but I really have no clue where the actual boundaries are or what type of agreement they have.

And for the record because I know most of you don't visit the caving section.... Nutty Putty Cave is now open. Access is obtained through a reservations system. The latest info and how to obtain reservations is available here: http://climb-utah.com/WM/nutty.htm

:cool2:

[tb]

summit42 and Jrat - sweet photos...



...I don't have a single photo of Delicate Arch without someone under it.

reminds me of a photographer friend (not the jackass who light the fire under the arch) on one october weekday early morning, went as far as re-locating a temporary "Trail-Closed" sign to the Delicate Arch trail-head. But, to no avail his ploy failed to stop the savy english-as-a-second-language european tourists from filling in his shots.

[Iceaxe]

one october weekday early morning, went as far as re-locating a temporary "Trail-Closed" sign to the Delicate Arch trail-head.

That's just chickenshit in my book....

The horror stories I

[Jaxx]

one october weekday early morning, went as far as re-locating a temporary "Trail-Closed" sign to the Delicate Arch trail-head.

That's just chickenshit in my book....

I agree with Ice on this one. Your buddy is a douchebag.

[moabmatt]

Corona Arch might be on STILE land but I think it is administered by the BLM. The route is publicized by the BLM on their website and pamphlets, the BLM cares for the trailhead and sign in box, maintains the trail.... but I really have no clue where the actual boundaries are or what type of agreement they have.

The SITLA boundary runs east-west from basically the post w/chain along the trail. Everything north of that line is SITLA, including Corona and Bowtie. So the BLM manages the parking area and the trail up to that point, but has no jurisdiction over the arch itself.

A couple years ago there was talk of the BLM acquiring SITLA lands along the Colorado River corridor (including Corona, Morning Glory, et al), in exchange for SITLA receiving "developable" BLM land elsewhere. It's still an ongoing discussion. SITLA is mandated to earn money for the state from these parcels, primarily through oil, gas, hardrock mining, etc. Since no one wants to see that kind of development in these scenic areas it makes some degree of sense for the BLM to exchange some of their mineral-rich, less scenic parcels in places like Uintah Basin for those scenic, recreation-oriented parcels along the River. Mind you, the BLM also makes good money through extractive industry so these exchanges are dragged out with complex appraisal processes between the agencies. There's no question, however, that the BLM would be better suited to manage the scenic River parcels.

[tb]

[quote=Iceaxe]

And I

[Iceaxe]

i'll put it to bed for you.

The formation in question was not the tea pot in Fantasy Canyon, that was a well known photo-op. The formation in question was looked near Big Water.

:cool2:

[sarahlizzy]

I don't have a single photo of Delicate Arch without someone under it.

Maybe you should show up at night when no one is there and light a fire underneath it. :ne_nau: :haha:

"God's own light" *smirk*

[moab mark]

Corona Arch might be on STILE land but I think it is administered by the BLM. The route is publicized by the BLM on their website and pamphlets, the BLM cares for the trailhead and sign in box, maintains the trail.... but I really have no clue where the actual boundaries are or what type of agreement they have.

The SITLA boundary runs east-west from basically the post w/chain along the trail. Everything north of that line is SITLA, including Corona and Bowtie. So the BLM manages the parking area and the trail up to that point, but has no jurisdiction over the arch itself.

A couple years ago there was talk of the BLM acquiring SITLA lands along the Colorado River corridor (including Corona, Morning Glory, et al), in exchange for SITLA receiving "developable" BLM land elsewhere. It's still an ongoing discussion. SITLA is mandated to earn money for the state from these parcels, primarily through oil, gas, hardrock mining, etc. Since no one wants to see that kind of development in these scenic areas it makes some degree of sense for the BLM to exchange some of their mineral-rich, less scenic parcels in places like Uintah Basin for those scenic, recreation-oriented parcels along the River. Mind you, the BLM also makes good money through extractive industry so these exchanges are dragged out with complex appraisal processes between the agencies. There's no question, however, that the BLM would be better suited to manage the scenic River parcels.


This thread probably needs to be split.
Matt,
Are you allowed to guide on SITLA? Do you know how much area out by gemini bridges is SITLA? A nice home that has been built out in that area is on a SITLA lease. The scout camp out there is also on a SITLA lease. Is all of the bull canyon drainage SITLA?
Mark

[Iceaxe]

People come from all over the world to try and get a good photograph of Corona Arch.... don't mess up their pictures. Corona is a stunt rappel, hundreds of other stunt rappels nearby. If you must do it attempt to do it when the crowds a small, be quick about it, and than get the hell out of the picture....

So.... we were discussing rappeling from Corona Arch in this thread....

Last week when I was in Moab I picked up a brochue from Moab Desert Adventure and noticed they are now offering "The Corona Arch Rappeling Experiance"

Cost is $99 per person with 2 or more in the group. For your 99 dollars you get to rappel off the top of Corona Arch...

:roll:

[ratagonia]

People come from all over the world to try and get a good photograph of Corona Arch.... don't mess up their pictures. Corona is a stunt rappel, hundreds of other stunt rappels nearby. If you must do it attempt to do it when the crowds a small, be quick about it, and than get the hell out of the picture....

So.... we were discussing rappeling from Corona Arch in this thread....

Last week when I was in Moab I picked up a brochue from Moab Desert Adventure and noticed they are now offering "The Corona Arch Rappeling Experiance"

Cost is $99 per person with 2 or more in the group. For your 99 dollars you get to rappel off the top of Corona Arch...

:roll:

http://www.moabdesertadventures.com/rappelling.htm

:roll: :roll: :roll: TJ :moses: