Zion Bogleyfest - June 26-28 09' A Sucess! :)

[Sombeech]

Bogelyfest: Friday, Saturday and Sunday
June 26 to June 28

Organizing trip through individual canyons
If you want to lead lets put your name here. You then choose a canyon, obtain the permit or permits needed. Those interested can contact you and then you post in info in the group. Feel free to use the thread to discuss things. Leaders are responsible for picking the canyon they want to lead, getting the permits and communicating with those that want to go with them. Dole out duties to those that want to go with you such as obtaining permits, shuttles, etc... Post in the thread what canyon you are doing and if it will be on Friday, Saturday or Sunday so people can get with you. Last year a large group of us, most of those doing Subway, Pine Creek and Keyhole, met at the backcountry desk to obtain permits at the same time - at 9am. That might work for some canyons this year and for some it will not.

Bogleyfest - Post in this thread the trip(s) you would like to do
Important! We are just a bunch of friends meeting to do canyons together, this is not a class or a guided trip! If you lack rappelling skills find someone to take you out to practice before the Bogleyfest. In the slot is not the time to learn to rappel. You need to be able to do the canyons you sign up for with a group. This means you know how to clip in and rappel without help, you do not 'freak-out' on long or awkward rappels, you can at least dog paddle to shore and you do not 'freak-out' when swimming in darkish, cold canyons.

If you feel you need help in the canyons message (PM) the person leading the canyon you are interested in .... but ultimately....
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY!
Helmets are REQUIRED on all the trips
Ask about wet/dry suits if you are uncertain if you need one or not.

If you asked to be on a trip and there was an opening - and I missed you, please make sure I know and put you on that trip!!

Everyone Check this to make sure it is Correct Please :nod:

More info
http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15843&start=0

Bogelyfest: Friday, Saturday and Sunday
June 26 to June 28

Ask Jaxx about Behunin and Telephone canyon permits during the fest that he has up for grabs!

Trip Organizers: Randi, Bo and Shaun (Trackrunner)
Subway on Saturday - 12 limit
1. Randi
2. Bo
3. Shaun
4. Deeps - Dean Paul
5. Hank
6. Trackrunner's other half
7. Blueeyes (Chere)
8. Acca - Scott
9. ppurdon - Paul
10. mmac - Mike
11. Maria
12. Julia
Meet at 7AM at the lower trailhead, work out the shuttle to the top and start hiking by 8am?

Trip Organizers: Bo, Pubalz (Dave) TrackRunner
Pine Creek and Keyhole on Sunday - 12 limit
4. Robin
5. Aaron
6. Death Cricket
7. Deeps - Dean Paul
8. Pubalz daughter
9. The King (Dave)
10. Paul (Ststephen)
11. Andy Archibald
12. Teancum
*Trip Full - 12 Max

Trip Organizer: Oldno -Kurt - Limit 6
Saturday - Spry Canyon (permits requested)
2. Frank n' Beans
3. Jody
4. Paul (Ststephen)
5. Aaron
6. Robin
* Win will shuttle us to the trailhead. Thanks Win :2thumbs:
*Trip Full
Meet Kurt at the Visitor Center at 8am.

Sunday - Yankee Doodle plus a new canyon nearby
Trip Organizer: Kurt - Oldno
2. Frank n' Beans
3. Jody
4. Jaxx
5. Chabidiah
6. Jaxx's BIL
7. Bret
*Trips Full
Meet at the Southbound, Leeds exit(I-15) at 8:00am Kurt will be in a red dodge pick-up.

Trip Organizer: Mr Brejcha (Matt) and Pubalz
Spry on Saturday - Limit 6
2. Don
3. Gonzo
4. Bugby
5. Pubalz (Dave)
6. Pubalz daughter
*6 max - Trip Full

[B]Saturday

[Bo_Beck]

Seems like it's time to think about the 2009 Canyon BogleyFest.

I realize how big of a headache this was to plan last year, so let's see if we can simplify it up a bit.

Zion sounds like a great place to have it, but obtaining the permits is a task. Are there any other areas that would be easy to plan? I'm sure it would be a ball to camp out in the middle of nowhere.

Does June still work for everybody?

June sounds great! I hope to make it no matter where it may happen? :2thumbs:

[abirken]

Think this sounds great! Let's have some canyon monkeys throw some suggestions our way. Zion was marvelous though......agh. Zion. So sweet it was. :nod: I am all bout roughing it, camping.......etc..

[nelsonccc]

I'm game to help put together the Zion thing again if thats where it ends up being again.

[Wasatch]

If it is held in Jun-Sep, Zion is the only place to have it, otherwise you will be eaten alive by mosquitos and die of heat. If you want to do this eariler, say Apr-early May, then the Swell, North Wash, Robbers Roost, Cedar Mesa areas are great to be in. Oh, I would like to join it this year.

[DiscGo]

I am definitely in for BogleyFest and I will be bring ankle braces for both ankles this year. I can't wait!

[trackrunner]

I would be game and help plan, maybe even lead a group, obtain a permit if in Zion.

Mentioned that it would be unpleasant for the other areas in June. Why limit Bogley fest to just one trip. Why not a fest in Zion, Roost or Swell some other time?

Canyoneering season starts next weekend for me. :rockon:

[Wasatch]

Great idea, I'm for it.


I would be game and help plan, maybe even lead a group, obtain a permit if in Zion.

Mentioned that it would be unpleasant for the other areas in June. Why limit Bogley fest to just one trip. Why not a fest in Zion, Roost or Swell some other time?

Canyoneering season starts next weekend for me. :rockon:

[Bo_Beck]

I am definitely in for BogleyFest and I will be bring ankle braces for both ankles this year. I can't wait!

:2thumbs:

[Bo_Beck]

I'd be really psyched to help out If I might be of use. Certainly Zion is close to me, therefore most appealing, however, I'm sure that by June I'd be really anxious to fiddle elswhere as well! If the decision is finally made and happens to be in Zion, I'll do my best to secure a permit or help in any way I might. :nod:

[AJ]

I'd be game to help out as well...

[Sombeech]

Are there any other areas that would be easy to plan?

I assume you are looking for easy canyons only?

I was thinking more along the lines of permits. The main headache of the Fest is planning for about 30 "Maybe's", especially with permits.

I love Zion, and if there are cool canyons there that don't need a permit, then we can just say "Hey, meet here at 7 if you want to do this canyon with us" and we don't care who backs out at the last minute.

I suspect that the nervous noobs will know if they could do the canyon or not, if we provide the right info. Then they can choose.

[Randi]

I suspect that the nervous noobs will know if they could do the canyon or not, if we provide the right info. Then they can choose.

Nervous Noobs? :mrgreen: That's cute!
Will there be any gratuitous nudity like last time? Hehe....
I'd be game to lead *something easy* or help out, or ? *if it all happens at a time & place I can get to. It was SOOO much fun last time, but I didn't get to do canyons with a bunch of you!

Count me in as a possible attendee.

[DiscGo]

I didn't really know people in my group last year (Abirken, TrackRunner, Bo, AJ, etc.) but those guys are all so awesome that I want to be in all their groups again. I am now getting very excited for June!

[Pubalz]

Some canyons in june would be sweet.Let me know if you need any help leading,organizing or whatever. :2thumbs:

[abirken]

Well howdee doodee! Let's set a date kids! I am excited for whatever we choose to do. :2thumbs:

[trackrunner]

Another benifit for holding some sort of a fest in Zion is it will allow Disco to do the Subway (a canyon he has always wanted to do) since he missed it a year earlier because of an epic fall/jump at the start of Pine Creek.

[abirken]

Another benifit for holding some sort of a fest in Zion is it will allow Disco to do the Subway (a canyon he has always wanted to do) since he missed it a year earlier because of an epic fall/jump at the start of Pine Creek.

DITTO!! I also was really sick all that weekend and WHIPPED on Sunday. I headed home early. I would love to do Subway as well. :2thumbs:

[DiscGo]

Another benifit for holding some sort of a fest in Zion is it will allow Disco to do the Subway (a canyon he has always wanted to do) since he missed it a year earlier because of an epic fall/jump at the start of Pine Creek.

Is it any wonder why I saw I love these guys?

[Scott Card]

Depending on the timing, I would be willing to help out where I can. I've been to Zion a couple of times.

[oldno7]

Depending on the timing, I would be willing to help out where I can. I've been to Zion a couple of times.

I hear Scott has an inside track on permit's. Something about Mapleton Mafia. :ne_nau: :lol8:

[Scott Card]

Depending on the timing, I would be willing to help out where I can. I've been to Zion a couple of times.

I hear Scott has an inside track on permit's. Something about Mapleton Mafia. :ne_nau: :lol8:I don't know watz you talkin' about. I don't know nuttin. Youz gotz the wrong guy. Why don't you come over for a poached egg or poached salmon or sumpin. You can meet my friend Mickey. :haha:

[abirken]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15785&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60


Regarding Moab- Should we combine the two? Or still shoot to do another canyon Noobfest? What's cool about the weekend of May 1 is Cirrus (Kevin) will be in town all the way from Canada. :2thumbs:

[DiscGo]

So is the May get together happening in lieu of "Bogley Fest"? Are they two different trips and is so is the Bogley Fest still happening?

[tanya]

:popcorn:

[tanya]

Seems like it's time to think about the 2009 Canyon BogleyFest.

I realize how big of a headache this was to plan last year, so let's see if we can simplify it up a bit.

Zion sounds like a great place to have it, but obtaining the permits is a task. Are there any other areas that would be easy to plan? I'm sure it would be a ball to camp out in the middle of nowhere.

Does June still work for everybody?


There are lots of fun places in the Zion area that don't need a permit. :popcorn:

I went my Mosquito Cove yesterday and it had campers .. so it is still open.

[DiscGo]

I don't have the Canyoneering experience to organize and plan the canyons, but I do have a great camping suggestion. Last year we camped in a spot just off the road about 10 or 15 minutes from the park. It is probably big enough for everyone to camp in the same spot. Like I said it is just off the road, which isn't great but the location's proximity to the park is great and it is free and it would be fun to be all together.

[Sombeech]

I just don't want to put Shane through that headache of organizing it again.



...because we're still depending on him to do it all for us again this year. :haha:

[moab mark]

How many showed up at zion? I would not recommend Moab in June? Most of the canyons would be HOT!
Mark

[DiscGo]

There were probably about 25 of us last year (roughly)

[abirken]

Zion 2008!

[nelsonccc]

If this ends up in Zion in June I'll help plan. Lots of options available that time of year.

[DiscGo]

I believe we are shooting for June Nelson. I am happy to help too, I think I could just be a better assistant for this trip planning than leader (due to my lack of experience with Canyoneering).

[tanya]

If this ends up in Zion in June I'll help plan. Lots of options available that time of year.

Since I hear Nelson is a blast, that should make it lots of fun!!!

:2thumbs: :rockon:

[Sombeech]

Yeah, let's say June. It'll be a little warm, but all the better for swimming.

Moab is in May.

[ststephen]

As a total new person I didn't want to sway your choice. But, if you guys are settled on Zion in June that might work well for me. School's out 6/10. If you do this on the 6/13 weekend or later I'll try to make it!

Zion's also doable as one really long day's drive from the Bay Area.

The pic above didn't show any kids. Are they welcome/expected?

[Bo_Beck]

Tanya and I can help as well. Lets talk and get things going. Looks like we have lots of folks willing to help. So far there is Tanya and I, A.J., Trackrunner, Randi and Scott.

Anyone else want to help set up the fest, get permits, set up camp sites, experienced enough and willing to lead groups of beginners? :popcorn:

[DiscGo]

I think the first step will be picking the weekend. The weekends in June are the following:

- - - - - - - - - - -
June 5th-7th

June 12th-14th

June 19th-21th

June 26th - 28th
- - - - - - - - - - -

The earlier in the month probably the better for me, but I will make it to BogleyFest either way.


Last year I camped just off the road right here:
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[tanya]

oh :naughty: MEN! Count me in.


I never know these days where I will be living too far into the future, but right now I am living alone in St. George/Ivins. (yeah, I know it was Vegas just a couple of weeks ago) :cool2: If that is the case still during the Bogleyfest, which it should be, then everyone that fits can camp in my house ---- at least those who don't want to rough the great outdoors. That way we can car pool and save on the Zion entrance fees, gas and motel rooms. I am living just a few blocks away from Bo too.

[Wasatch]

I can also help out if need be.

[Don]

I can not make the second weekend in June (12-14); Army weekend. The first weekend (5-7) looks much better for me.
I get into this thread and keep thinking about sleeping behind the bar last year. :haha: That was the first weekend in June too...

[Win]

I'll definitely be around to help out but probably won't be able to participate. I can probably do some logistics, like get permits or? I know I'll be in for Saturday nites party! :2thumbs:

Win

[DiscGo]

Does the 5th-7th work for everyone else? It works for me, and I definitely want Don to be there so I can make fun of him some more for BlueEyesSmiling out running him in his running away pictures :)

[tanya]

I am voting for the last weekend in June and I scanned the posts -- so far it seems that is the date that will work so far for everyone. Anyone have a problem with the last weekend in June?


Getting a date down is a good first step.



:rockon:


Note: Father's Day is the 21st
ALSO --- I will be gone 19 -21st to testify at a hearing so that weekend would be out for me but can do any other weekend in June, but I still think its going to better at the end of the month when warmer.

[Wasatch]

Could come down 5-7 Jun, but 12-14 Jun or 26-28 Jun works better for me. Did Englestead last year first weekend in Jun and there was still a bunch of snow in there, pretty effy at the time, the Narrows was running around 100 cfs that weekend. I also believe Echo was not in the best of conditions as well.

[Wasatch]

I could take some people thru Birch Hollow and Spry.

[Alex]

My vote is for end of June as well

[DiscGo]

June 19th-21st
or
June 26th - 28th ?


I am anxious for the day to get here, so I'm leaning towards the 19th-21st but I am going to love this either way.

[tanya]

I can't go on the 19th to 21st -- court thing.

[DiscGo]

Okay, there you have it. The official date of Bogley Fest is June 26th - 28th. If someone has an issue with that speak now or forever hold your peace.




June 26th - 28th

[Sombeech]

If you guys could just go ahead and design the thing to work around my schedule, that'd be greeeeaaaaat

[ststephen]

That date looks tentatively good for me. I floated the idea to the family this weekend and they were positive about it. Hopefully I can meet some Bogleyites face-to-face in June!

[DiscGo]

If you guys could just go ahead and design the thing to work around my schedule, that'd be greeeeaaaaat

http://thepantherpoacher.com/milton.jpg

[Wasatch]

26-28 Jun works for me as well. No permit needed for Birch Hollow. Cannot at this time get permits on-line for Spry in that time frame, most likely will have to wait at least a couple of weeks or a month. So whoever wants to do Birch Hollow you can sign up now, I guess. There will be a limit of 6 for this canyon, maybe more. So far me and a buddy are going.

[tanya]

Just like last year - refer to the 1st post on this thread for a summary of what is going on. That way no one has to sift through the entire thread to see what's up.

:popcorn:

[Wasatch]

How did I get bumped off from leading Birch Hollow?

[Iceaxe]

From someone who has planned these things before..... you are making this much to difficult. This is a Bogley trip and should just be posted on Bogley in the appropriate section.... set it up so whomever is in charge can modify the first post in the thread and keep everything important in that post. Makes things super easy for everyone to keep current....

or... you can go make your own mistakes and then discover that this is really the best method. :haha:

:bootyshake:

[Odie_Canyon]

So who do I have to talk to to get my name on the list of attendees?

And as a local, I am available to stand in line at 3am to pick up permits as necessary.

[accadacca]

I'll be in the crowd. :popcorn:

Lookin' forward to it! :guitar:

[DiscGo]

or... you can go make your own mistakes and then discover that this is really the best method. :haha:

:bootyshake:

:haha:


I am just trying to help get the word out to as many Bogleyites as possible. I really think that there are a lot of people who want to come but don't feel comfortable because they are either unfamiliar with Canyoneering or because they have never gotten together with other people on Bogley and broken through the barrier of dealing with "real" people and not just internet friends.

[Scott Card]

So who do I have to talk to to get my name on the list of attendees?

And as a local, I am available to stand in line at 3am to pick up permits as necessary.Way to go. You are a most valuable asset particularly for day one.

As far as permits go, it may be helpful to find out who can pull express permits.

Glad you put me on the follower list. Much more relaxing to not be in charge. :haha: (I am trying to free up a day or two to help out)

[Odie_Canyon]

As far as permits go, it may be helpful to find out who can pull express permits.

It looks like I need to head to Zion this weekend and renew my express permit... Either way I should have one by June.

[tanya]

Scott you just say the word. If you already said it, then it was too subtle. :haha:

Oh!!! Just read your post! "Help Out" means lead a canyon. I think you better make that part real clear to me or I will be sticking every one that wants to help out there ... like Win ... I think he would shoot me if I did. Okay, You are on the list of who would like to lead. :five:


Those of you who are willing to get the permit, perhaps you can get with the canyon leaders and help them out. I think that will work the best having small groups put things together instead of one person organzing all the permits. :popcorn:

There are some rules we need to follow at Zion too that we did not last year. Maybe Bo can explain those to us, since he knows them well or anyone else familar with them. :cool2:

Anyone that feels they are qualified to lead, just post it here and it will get on the list of who will be considered. We want to make sure all our newbies are safe, so like with all things, not everyone gets selected. If you want to ask in private, then PM DiscGo. :nod:

Anyone have any ideas? Is there anything we are missing?

Shane? Any more input for us? :2thumbs:

Jason... that is a good idea. I think I will get that done too!

[DiscGo]

We are hoping to have as many people lead trips as possible that have already led a Bogley sanctioned trip (so ideally the same people as last year). Safety is of course our number one concern and having an awesome time is a close second concern.

[nelsonccc]

We may want to consider moving it back a bit. Last year we did this in early June and there was still a lot of snow in the higher up canyons. I'm open for whatever but the snow may again limit the available options, especially those on the Kolob side. I know we are looking at late June so that may help.

Any canyon requests? I'm thinking the Eye of the Needle on Friday and North Fork of Oak on Saturday with a jug up the Chute on boths days instead of the MIA exit. Maybe even a Boundary on Sunday?

Or a more noob friendly option would be Boundary on Friday and Rock on Saturday. We could tie together a group doing Misery with a group doing rock since the rock exit is way more friendly than the misery exit. IMO.

Or we could do Das Boot, however I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.

I'm open to suggestion.

[tanya]

I might be off base, but I am thinking we need more leaders if we are going to follow the park rules -- which we should. We will need smaller groups this year, which means more leaders for more canyons or we will have to do some canyons that don't need permits.. which is fun too.

What do you all want to do this year? Look at last years thread for some good ideas. The link is at the bottom of the 1st post. We can't take 2 big groups through Subway, Pine Creek and Keyhole like last year, but we can take some people.

There are several that are fun that don't need permits but the problem is that a harder canyon takes more time thus you can't take too many on it. Red Cave might be fun. Yankee Doodle is okay. Birch is one of my favorites but can't take a big group. Fat man's would really be an awesome day.. but a long long hard hard day for newbies (and those not so new too) :mrgreen:

Take a look at this list. The canyons are pretty much listed from easiest to hardest.

http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-national-park-canyoneering.htm

Shane lists which ones are easiest to hardest as well
http://www.climb-utah.com/Zion/index.htm

[DiscGo]

I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.


Scott Card had a route he took which sounded awesome. What was the route you suggested last week at lunch Scott?

[tanya]

We may want to consider moving it back a bit. Last year we did this in early June and there was still a lot of snow in the higher up canyons. I'm open for whatever but the snow may again limit the available options, especially those on the Kolob side. I know we are looking at late June so that may help.

Any canyon requests? I'm thinking the Eye of the Needle on Friday and North Fork of Oak on Saturday with a jug up the Chute on boths days instead of the MIA exit. Maybe even a Boundary on Sunday?

Or a more noob friendly option would be Boundary on Friday and Rock on Saturday. We could tie together a group doing Misery with a group doing rock since the rock exit is way more friendly than the misery exit. IMO.

Or we could do Das Boot, however I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.

I'm open to suggestion.

I am very open to August! I want to do Eye of the Needle, Rock and Boundary! Those are 3 I have never done! :hail2thechief: .

Das Boot is one of my favorite, but I would like to get on at least one of the ones I said I never did there.

[DiscGo]

I have two issues with August-

1) I am so excited for this trip that waiting until August sounds very painful :)

2) My wife is expecting a baby at the end of August or beginning of September and I need to make sure I am around her the closer we get to that time.

But seriously whatever. I just want another great BogleyFest to go down. It totally needs to be an annual tradition!

[oldno7]

I should be able to attend this year, I can help in whatever capacity.
I am on the express system also.

[tanya]

I should be able to attend this year, I can help in whatever capacity.
I am on the express system also.

As a leader?

[oldno7]

I should be able to attend this year, I can help in whatever capacity.
I am on the express system also.

As a leader?

Sure.

[Wasatch]

I would also like to do Boundary, I could lead Birch Hollow the next day or vice versa. But I thought this was about the new people getting into canyons?

[Don]

I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.


Scott Card had a route he took which sounded awesome. What was the route you suggested last week at lunch Scott?

He was talking about Englestead.

[DiscGo]

Did anyone else think that Justin was stronger than that?

[tanya]

Did anyone else think that Justin was stronger than that?


I beat most men! He beat me! It shocked me!!!!! He is super strong!

[Sombeech]

Did anyone else think that Justin was stronger than that?


LOL

Sorry, we took the video down. it's on a secondary youtube account. we'll repost it soon

in my defense, I couldn't "take tanya's wrist". LOL

[Wasatch]

I vote for Oscar's first, Bit n' Spur second. I will be staying in the great outdoors (Mosquito Cove or Smith Mesa).

[Wasatch]

We may want to consider moving it back a bit. Last year we did this in early June and there was still a lot of snow in the higher up canyons. I'm open for whatever but the snow may again limit the available options, especially those on the Kolob side. I know we are looking at late June so that may help.

Any canyon requests? I'm thinking the Eye of the Needle on Friday and North Fork of Oak on Saturday with a jug up the Chute on boths days instead of the MIA exit. Maybe even a Boundary on Sunday?

Or a more noob friendly option would be Boundary on Friday and Rock on Saturday. We could tie together a group doing Misery with a group doing rock since the rock exit is way more friendly than the misery exit. IMO.

Or we could do Das Boot, however I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.

I'm open to suggestion.

Rock is a waste of time, if you want to take it off your list or just slogg on out in the water go for it, lol

[Scott Card]

I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.


Scott Card had a route he took which sounded awesome. What was the route you suggested last week at lunch Scott?Don was right. I was talking about Englestead. Not for the faint of heart or elvis in the knees.

[DiscGo]

Not for the faint of heart or elvis in the knees.


I would nt describe myself as being "faint of heart" but if that is a nice way of saying "not for uncoordinated people" than maybe that would apply to me. It sounded awesome though with that 300 foot rappel.

[tanya]

http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/albums/index68.htm

Look at the 1st and 2nd row of photos... this is the 300 ft rappel. It was scary and my arm was tense, so it got tired. That is what is scary when you go --- dang! My arm is exhausted.. I am going to FALL!!!! :mrgreen:

I LOVED it :five:

That is Bo in the photohttp://www.zionnational-park.com/images/albums/images/englestead-f_jpg.jpg

[DiscGo]

300 feet is a huge rappel but I totally want to do that. It looks awesome!

[Stick]

I would like to come. I can bring a rope or two.

[DiscGo]

I would like to come. I can bring a rope or two.

It will be great to have you!

[abirken]

Hey guys, 86 me off the list so others can have a shot at this weekend. This happens to be a weekend I am covering for my co-worker. If something changes, I'll let you know. I may just hit up Zion a bit earlier in the month. :cry1:

[DiscGo]

Hey guys, 86 me off the list...


Booo!

[abirken]

Hey guys, 86 me off the list...


Booo!

If I can make it work, I will. But my co-worker is going to her son's wedding and I'm the only other person to work. Blah! I know. We'll see. There may be a 'plan B' lurking in the background.......but not crossing my fingers. :ne_nau: :frustrated:

[moab mark]

http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/albums/index68.htm

Look at the 1st and 2nd row of photos... this is the 300 ft rappel. It was scary and my arm was tense, so it got tired. That is what is scary when you go --- dang! My arm is exhausted.. I am going to FALL!!!! :mrgreen:

I LOVED it :five:

That is Bo in the photohttp://www.zionnational-park.com/images/albums/images/englestead-f_jpg.jpg

Has the helmet patrol gone on vacation? And he is the Search & Rescue man? :nono:

[nelsonccc]

Rock is a waste of time, if you want to take it off your list or just slogg on out in the water go for it, lol

Totally diasagree. I've done it twice and while it certainly isn't very technical it does pass through some gorgeous scenery. It's got some semi-spicy downclimbing, at least for newbies, a big rap, and lots of opportunity to play in the water. The exit is quick and going up French Canyon is one of the highlights. IMO.

[DiscGo]

But my co-worker is going to her son's wedding and I'm the only other person to work

Maybe we'll get lucky and they will call off the wedding :)

[DiscGo]

It's got some semi-spicy downclimbing, at least for newbies, a big rap, and lots of opportunity to play in the water. The exit is quick and going up French Canyon is one of the highlights. IMO.


I like playing in water.

[tanya]

Rock is a waste of time, if you want to take it off your list or just slogg on out in the water go for it, lol

Totally diasagree. I've done it twice and while it certainly isn't very technical it does pass through some gorgeous scenery. It's got some semi-spicy downclimbing, at least for newbies, a big rap, and lots of opportunity to play in the water. The exit is quick and going up French Canyon is one of the highlights. IMO.

Is French Canyon the same as Joe's French Canyon? I assume it is. That is the best way to do Fat Man's I think .. but time consuming for the shuttle, but the shuttle part can be fun too - depending on who you go with. :haha:

Bo's write up using the French Canyon Exit:
http://www.zionnational-park.com/parunuweap-canyon.htm

Shane's Rock Canyon
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/rock.htm

[tanya]

What is everyones thoughts? We can do a different place on Friday and Saturday night maybe. Anyone want to be in charge of party time?

Let's shoot for 6pm since some people like to go to bed early and are staying in St. George and those who finish canyons late can still show up because the group will still be there. Let's take some suggestions for where to party -- Springdale will probably work best for everyone. Will this work?

We could even have a pot-luck, drinkfest at my house one or all of those nights. That would be easy for those staying here. If campers are in Mosquito Cove that is between St. George and Zion so it would not be too bad for them. Or we could just have the drinkfest here after the restaurant dinner. :lol8:

Restraunt Choices
Friday Night and Saturday Nights - 6pm until whenever

St George places is an option but probably not as convenient as Springdale for everyone.

Bit n' Spur Salon and Mexican Restaurant
http://www.bitandspur.com/

Zion Pizza & Noodle Company
Sadly they only take cash and local checks. They do serve beer.
http://www.zionpizzanoodle.com/home.html

Oscars is good too and there is room outside for us, but probably not inside.
http://www.cafeoscars.com/

Majestic View Steakhouse and Saloon
http://www.majesticviewlodge.com/

Switchback Grill
http://www.switchbacktrading.com/grille/index.htm

Other places of interest?

[tanya]

What are everyones ideas on where to stay?

I am letting anyone that wants to, stay on the floor at my house in Ivins/St. George on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The floor is not carpeted so bring air mattresses. Here is the link to where I am living right now. I got it to rent it out, so I am not sure how long I will live here, but I am gettign use to it, so I might stick around. :nod:
http://www.zionnational-park.com/saint-george-rental-homes.htm

Some of you are always interested in camping in the great outdoors. Here is just a link, nothing exciting.
http://www.zion.national-park.com/camping.htm#camp
Let us know your favorite camping spots. Do you want a big group camping together? Is everyone welcome to camp where you are?

There are a variety of motels in St. George or Hurricane to choose from as well.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Springdale_(Utah)
http://www.zionpark.com/Hotels.htm

[Wasatch]

Rock is a waste of time, if you want to take it off your list or just slogg on out in the water go for it, lol

Totally diasagree. I've done it twice and while it certainly isn't very technical it does pass through some gorgeous scenery. It's got some semi-spicy downclimbing, at least for newbies, a big rap, and lots of opportunity to play in the water. The exit is quick and going up French Canyon is one of the highlights. IMO.

Agree on the scenery, but the entrance to French definitely had a nice scent, lol Let's not forget about the quicksand in many spots.

[oldno7]

I put in a lottery request for Mystery on 27th, 6 people.

[rockgremlin]

Put me down for a very strong maybe.

The only reason I don't feel confident to lead is because I don't have very much Zion experience. But as far as knots, navigating, belays, ropework, etc I am solid and can help out a leader. I would like to hit Kolob, Eye of the Needle, and Boundary, but I have never done those routes before, so I don't feel comfortable leading them.

[shaggy125]

Count me in to finally come to one of these! I don't have an hour or two to read all the posts so I'll just watch the first one and hope I get all the info I need from that. If you change it to August, I'm out. After June I'll be playing in the mountains. I can lead whatever, I'd like to do a Right Fork Trip, probably a one dayer, possibly an overnight. I'll lead Kolob if it's flowing at least 3 cfs. I've not done Oak or Boundry so I'd be down to do those. I'd be happy to lead Imlay (shortcut), Misery, Pine Creek, Keyhole, Echo, Das Boot/Subway (done all of them at least twice), as well. If anyone wants to do something the 25th I'd be down for that. I'd also possibly stay till the end of the month if I had partners.

[DiscGo]

Last year we had BogleyFest involve 2 days of Canyoneering (Saturday & Sunday) and I am hoping that this year we can be doing 3 full days of Canyoneering.

[Stick]

I have never done kolob, eye of the needle, or boundary, and would like to hit one (or all) of them. If anyone leads these I will be willing to carry a rope to come along.

[oldno7]

Last year we did Boundary from the top and left fixed ropes at every rappel, had lunch at the bottom and ascended back out. Would be fun to have a group do this down boundary, other group comes down Kolob or Eye, meet at bottom of boundary and ascend out together. This is much better than the MIA exit. From the top of the canyon, down--lunch--ascend up, took 4 1/2 hours for our group of 6. 650 feet of ascending roughly. Would have to be a very experienced group.

[Randi]

I could lead a Fat Man's Misery trip...or Pine Creek (but I'd rather not do Pine Creek again).

I could/would co-lead a Subway trip on Saturday if I could get a permit and people were interested. As many times as I've been to Zion, I've still not done this one yet!

I suck at navigating, so I shouldn't be the sole navigator over terrain I'm unfamiliar with. I would most likely get everyone lost and Bo would have to come and find us.....

I've hiked up Lady Mountain a few times and won't get lost taking folks up there! I LOVE that hike and could lead that on Sunday if anyone wanted to do that instead of a canyon. I can be the rope gun on that too...as the climbs are not that difficult, just a bit of exposure is all.

~Randi

[nelsonccc]

Last year we did Boundary from the top and left fixed ropes at every rappel, had lunch at the bottom and ascended back out. Would be fun to have a group do this down boundary, other group comes down Kolob or Eye, meet at bottom of boundary and ascend out together. This is much better than the MIA exit. From the top of the canyon, down--lunch--ascend up, took 4 1/2 hours for our group of 6. 650 feet of ascending roughly. Would have to be a very experienced group.

IMO, it would be much easier to fix ropes in the Chute (middle fork of Oak) and ascend out that one. You could fix the ropes and spend the next couple of days hitting eye, boundary, and north Oak wihout doing the MIA once. I don't have my notes in front of me but if I remember correctly coming out of the Chute only requires about 380' of ascension.

[oldno7]

Last year we did Boundary from the top and left fixed ropes at every rappel, had lunch at the bottom and ascended back out. Would be fun to have a group do this down boundary, other group comes down Kolob or Eye, meet at bottom of boundary and ascend out together. This is much better than the MIA exit. From the top of the canyon, down--lunch--ascend up, took 4 1/2 hours for our group of 6. 650 feet of ascending roughly. Would have to be a very experienced group.

IMO, it would be much easier to fix ropes in the Chute (middle fork of Oak) and ascend out that one. You could fix the ropes and spend the next couple of days hitting eye, boundary, and north Oak wihout doing the MIA once. I don't have my notes in front of me but if I remember correctly coming out of the Chute only requires about 380' of ascension.

Sounds awesome, any access issues? I know nothing about chute.
Seems to be some concern for eye.

[nelsonccc]

Last year we did Boundary from the top and left fixed ropes at every rappel, had lunch at the bottom and ascended back out. Would be fun to have a group do this down boundary, other group comes down Kolob or Eye, meet at bottom of boundary and ascend out together. This is much better than the MIA exit. From the top of the canyon, down--lunch--ascend up, took 4 1/2 hours for our group of 6. 650 feet of ascending roughly. Would have to be a very experienced group.

IMO, it would be much easier to fix ropes in the Chute (middle fork of Oak) and ascend out that one. You could fix the ropes and spend the next couple of days hitting eye, boundary, and north Oak wihout doing the MIA once. I don't have my notes in front of me but if I remember correctly coming out of the Chute only requires about 380' of ascension.

Sounds awesome, any access issues? I know nothing about chute.
Seems to be some concern for eye.

The Chute requires the same amount of discretion as the Eye if not more. A low key approach is definately required. I've always gone to great lengths to avoid any interaction with the residents. We suit/gear up high up on the road then drive down to a closer spot, quickly park and hike down the road to the canyons.

[ststephen]

Nicely summarized, Tanya!

I think it's really nice that you guys are looking out for newbies while also trying to fit in some harder stuff.

[shaggy125]

Shaggy is willing to lead any canyon but Heaps. Not willing to go into Heaps with total strangers. Major canyons in Zion I haven't done are Boundary, Birch, Behunin, Oak, Telephone, Goose, and Right Fork. Everything else I've done at least once, most of them more than once. I'll lead just about anything people want to do. I took advantage of one of these fest's as a Noob so now it's time for me to help other noobs out. So basically I'm saying I take requests. :nod:

[stefan]

Shaggy is willing to lead any canyon but Heaps. Not willing to go into Heaps with total strangers. Major canyons in Zion I haven't done are Boundary, Birch, Behunin, Oak, Telephone, Goose, and Right Fork. Everything else I've done at least once, most of them more than once. I'll lead just about anything people want to do. I took advantage of one of these fest's as a Noob so now it's time for me to help other noobs out. So basically I'm saying I take requests. :nod:

you rock, eric :2thumbs:

[Jaxx]

Sounds like fun. I don't want to put my name on the list yet. Not sure about schedules.

Randi. Last year we did Fat man's and it was a scorcher. If you are doing the checkerboard rout I advise bringing atleast 3 liters of water, mabey more. I drank about 4 liters. I normally drink alot of water but it is a long exposed hike in but especially killer on the way back with the elevation gain. Super fun canyon though. The end of the canyon makes the whole thing worth it.

I also have the back country desks direct phone number if anyone needs it. Mabey I should post it in the members section?

[Randi]

Sounds like fun. I don't want to put my name on the list yet. Not sure about schedules.

Randi. Last year we did Fat man's and it was a scorcher. If you are doing the checkerboard rout I advise bringing atleast 3 liters of water, mabey more. I drank about 4 liters. I normally drink alot of water but it is a long exposed hike in but especially killer on the way back with the elevation gain. Super fun canyon though. The end of the canyon makes the whole thing worth it.

I also have the back country desks direct phone number if anyone needs it. Mabey I should post it in the members section?

Yeah, you're right! Well, no one has signed onto Fat Man's! That is a canyon I "could" lead because I know how to get there. I've never done the canyon in June - maybe it's way too hot this time of year? The hike is long and it's a very long slog out at the end of the day...

Maybe, I'll stick to water canyons. I'd be real interested in the Subway, or the RF. I could help in RF if Shaggy leads it! I LOVE that canyon! I did an overnighter last year with Courtney & his G/F. It's gorgeous and a good beginner canyon, as well as being wet! There aren't many technical obstacles.

Thanks Tanya for providing all the organization! You're really good at managing this stuff!!! :2thumbs:

[DiscGo]

Tanya does rock!!!!

After asking around and doing some research and the following conclusion has been made. Please understand that this message is not against anybody but rather this is completely for the benefit of the most successful BogleyFest possible.

Important Message:

One thing we really need to keep in mind is that this event is planned as an opportunity to meet new and old friends and to enjoy some canyoneering together. BogleyFest really is as much of a chance to go Canyoneering as it is to meet other members of the site. When it comes down to it, BogleyFest is NOT a good time to do Imlay, Heaps, Right Fork or other pet projects or time consuming routes due to the deturance it would take of our necessary skilled canyoneers from the main group. Those type of events should be planned and executed in private at another time. Planning such events actually hurts Bogleyfest by stripping away talent that is useful and really needed elsewhere. To gain the most from a Bogleyfest we suggest you choose a route that can be executed in a reasonable amount of time by a moderately skilled group of canyoneers, and still have time for the evening social events. We strongly encourage experienced canyoneers to become a mentor to those less skilled at these events. Ideally we can be doing at least 2 canyons a day per group.

[abirken]

Hey guys, Add me back to the list please. I'm calling in sick. :2thumbs: :popcorn: Seriously.

[DiscGo]

Hey guys, Add me back to the list please. I'm calling in sick. :2thumbs: :popcorn: Seriously.

Awesome!!!!!!!

[trackrunner]

I'm willing to lead or co-lead a canyon(s)

some new and repeat canyons I've wanted to do as long as conditions permit:
das boot (combo canyon too including out subway, or even upper left fork)
telphone/behunin combo
boundry
englstead out down orderville
birch (and maybe combine one of those other canyons the drop in orderville)
echo (upper middle or lower)
russlle gulch
icebox
boundry

[shaggy125]

Important Message:

One thing we really need to keep in mind is that this event is planned as an opportunity to meet new and old friends and to enjoy some canyoneering together. BogleyFest really is as much of a chance to go Canyoneering as it is to meet other members of the site. When it comes down to it, BogleyFest is NOT a good time to do Imlay, Heaps, Right Fork or other pet projects or time consuming routes due to the deturance it would take of our necessary skilled canyoneers from the main group. Those type of events should be planned and executed in private at another time. Planning such events actually hurts Bogleyfest by stripping away talent that is useful and really needed elsewhere. To gain the most from a Bogleyfest we suggest you choose a route that can be executed in a reasonable amount of time by a moderately skilled group of canyoneers, and still have time for the evening social events. We strongly encourage experienced canyoneers to become a mentor to those less skilled at these events. Ideally we can be doing at least 2 canyons a day per group.

Ya, I hear you and totally agree, especially with the deal at one of the fests where people were pulling all the expierenced guys together to do a Heaps trip. BUT, if there are enough intermediates that are just DYING to do Imlay but don't feel comfortable going with their normal group of buddies I'd be willing to lead an Imlay trip (although I'm guessing I won't actually end up leading one). Last time we did the shortcut we pulled our rope at the last rappel before 3:00. Like I say though, I'll do whatever there is a demand for, I've done Imlay twice and it's not a project that I "need" to do this year or anything. Oh and Randi, you've never done the Subway???? We should co-lead a Das Boot/Subway trip! I could do that one 100 times and never get tired of it, plus I can show you all the jumping spots, underwater arch, waterfall raps, and waterslides!

[tanya]

Dont forget the Subway Arch! Most miss that one!


Some Subway hi-lights for those that have not done it yet and the Das Boot Entry
http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/albums/index74.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/album2/index58.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/album2/index18.htm

http://www.zionnational-park.com/images/album2/images/subway-zg_jpg.jpg

Thanks for the Kudos Everyone :five:

[Randi]

[quote=DiscGo]Important Message:

One thing we really need to keep in mind is that this event is planned as an opportunity to meet new and old friends and to enjoy some canyoneering together.

I will be in Zion many times before this Bogley trip, and I am totally cool about hanging the group and doing shorter days/canyons. Like you said Discgo, it's as much about getting to know Bogley folks and hanging with them. It was really great getting to know a few people last time, and I was sort of bummed that I didn't get to canyon with "everyone!"


Oh and Randi, you've never done the Subway???? We should co-lead a Das Boot/Subway trip! I could do that one 100 times and never get tired of it, plus I can show you all the jumping spots, underwater arch, waterfall raps, and waterslides!

Let's do it! I've done Das boot, but the group I was with didn't want to continue onto the Subway for some reason! And we had the permit for Subway - my car was parked over there at the exit!

Tanya, I'm thinking of saving Fat man's for some other time, cuz it's gonna be blistering hot. I wouldn't mind taking a group through Echo or Spry one day, but I'd have to have a navigator/helper. I'm not sure if I can find the way into into either canyon.....I could lead a pine Creek by myself....

What day do you wanna do Subway Shaggy?
Lemme know and I'll pick try for an express permit.
How many people can we take through there? Sat. would work better for me, but either day works.

Alison?
You should come on this one!!!!

[DiscGo]

Whatever happens, I must do the subway on this trip!

[Felicia]

John and I will attend. We are interested in doing Birch and Das Boot. Looking forward to seeing everyone!

[DiscGo]

I imagine most people will not be there on Friday but only Saturday and Sunday. Maybe the more difficult canyons can be done on Friday (leaving the bulk of the Canyoneering to Saturday and Sunday).


I do plan on being there on Friday but if things are too advanced for me, I can just hike around or whatever.

[abirken]

PS................Please group me on a canyon with Randi....she and I agreed to use our fabulous energy to levitate ourselves out of one. :lol8: Seriously though, I'd love to do Subway (thanks for noting that Tanya) and then a canyon with Randi (my female canyon mentor). Just getting that out there in the open. :2thumbs: You know how we women work.....can't even go to the bathroom without one another. :lol8:

[Wasatch]

Randi,

If you want to team up for Spry let me know. It's not hard to find, really.

[trackrunner]

Oh and Randi, you've never done the Subway???? We should co-lead a Das Boot/Subway trip! I could do that one 100 times and never get tired of it, plus I can show you all the jumping spots, underwater arch, waterfall raps, and waterslides!

I'd love to tag along. I was thinking of geting a permit for Das Boot myself, but am willing to let one of you get the permit.

Shaggy you had mentioned you wanted to do Telephone. Carpy and I had talked about doing Telephone/Behunin combo sometime. Haven't seen Dan chime in for a while.

[Felicia]

Randi and Allison: is there room for me?


:popcorn:

[abirken]

Randi and Allison: is there room for me?


:popcorn:


YAY!!! you are coming along too? But of course there is always room for you!!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: this is going to be so much fun!!!

[Felicia]

Randi and Allison: is there room for me?


:popcorn:


YAY!!! you are coming along too? But of course there is always room for you!!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: this is going to be so much fun!!!

WooHoo!!! :five: :five: :five: :five: :mrgreen:


:rockon:

[DiscGo]

Carpy and I had talked about doing Telephone/Behunin combo sometime. Haven't seen Dan chime in for a while.

I don't know if Dan is going to be around this Summer or not. I know he is back in Utah right now but he said the other day that it wouldn't be for long. I just Facebooked him to find out what his plans are.

[shaggy125]

Oh and Randi, you've never done the Subway???? We should co-lead a Das Boot/Subway trip! I could do that one 100 times and never get tired of it, plus I can show you all the jumping spots, underwater arch, waterfall raps, and waterslides!

I'd love to tag along. I was thinking of geting a permit for Das Boot myself, but am willing to let one of you get the permit.

Shaggy you had mentioned you wanted to do Telephone. Carpy and I had talked about doing Telephone/Behunin combo sometime. Haven't seen Dan chime in for a while.

Dan is going back to AK at the end of April, he's out canyoneering right now. I am hoping to join him next week. Sounds like he won't be around in June.

[shaggy125]

I imagine most people will not be there on Friday but only Saturday and Sunday. Maybe the more difficult canyons can be done on Friday (leaving the bulk of the Canyoneering to Saturday and Sunday).


I do plan on being there on Friday but if things are too advanced for me, I can just hike around or whatever.

DiscGo, nothing in Zion is really that advanced aside from Heaps and Imlay. Maybe doing Englestead without enough friction set up for the 300 footer, or doing it with two 60 meter ropes. I'm sure you would have a great time in just about any canyon. We'll find something good for Friday. I will be off the Wednesday before until the Thursday after so I'll be down there all three days, possibly more.

Randi, Saturday works if we can get a permit. I think my express permit login expired or I would be able to get a permit as well. Sunday may be easier to get though. I'd be down for any of the days.

[Pubalz]

I'm willing lead or co-lead any nube canyons that anybody wants to do. I'll be bringing my daughter Samantha with me, she has reppeling experience but has never been canyoneering. I"m also in the Express Permit program so I can pull permits if needed :cool2:

[shaggy125]

Lets plan on Saturday Randi and me leading Das Boot / Subway. Randy, try to get a lottery permit, if you can't I'll get in line early Friday morning.

Sounds like Trackrunner, abirken and Felicia want in.

Sunday I'll lead Keyhole and Pine Creek.

Friday is still open

[ststephen]

I'm willing lead or co-lead any nube canyons that anybody wants to do. I'll be bringing my daughter Samantha with me, she has reppeling experience but has never been canyoneering. I"m also in the Express Permit program so I can pull permits if needed :cool2:

How old is Samantha? I plan to bring my son Aaron who is 12 as well as my wife Robin. We've done some guided trips before and are experienced hikers and general desert explorers. I know nothing of the Zion canyons though and will have to rely on the kindness of strangers to get us out there for a weekend of fun.

[MiCanyoneer]

Get Busy at work and not read the forums for a few days and a whole fest gets planned. Great Job DiscGo and Tanya.

Well, I was hoping to meet some of you, but we will be leaving zion on the 26th so my family and I will not be able to join in on the fun this year.

Since I have my teenage daughters along maybe it is best.

We will be in Zion from June 19 to June 26th. We have reservations for the Watchman campgound. So If someone plans to be down during that time let me know. You could probably set up a tent on our site.

Kevin from Michigan

[AJ]

Get Busy at work and not read the forums for a few days and a whole fest gets planned. Great Job Disco and Tanya.


No kidding! Great job guys; thanks for your efforts.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this year; as I'll be flying back to Michigan on 6/26 to go visit family for the July 4th holiday. Sorry I'm going to miss it, and sorry I'm not able to help out. I hope everyone has a great time though!

Take care,
A.J.

[DiscGo]

We'll miss you guys.

[rockgremlin]

I managed to double my allotment of vacation days this year...so count me OFFICIALLY IN.

I'm looking at being there for the full three days. I would like to assist with Christian doing Eye, Boundary and Rock (or something else a little less hardcore that we could lead a group of intermediate canyoneers through).

This is assuming of course that we can't swing a trip down Kolob. I've never done Kolob, and it's been on my hitlist for years now. Waddaya say Christian - you up for a Kolob trip?

[FOX]

I'm not sure if I'll be able to make this one but I'm going to hedge my bets. If I can, then I'll kick it with Christian and Rock and even help lead if need be. I'm a big maybe at this point and all will depend on the arrival of our new baby. Fingers crossed :smile:

[rockgremlin]

I'm not sure if I'll be able to make this one but I'm going to hedge my bets. If I can, then I'll kick it with Christian and Rock and even help lead if need be. I'm a big maybe at this point and all will depend on the arrival of our new baby. Fingers crossed :smile:

Crossing fingers too...and knocking wood...

[CarpeyBiggs]

and knocking wood...

i think that's what got him in this mess...

[rockgremlin]

and knocking wood...

i think that's what got him in this mess...

:lol8: Thanks a bunch for the desktop image btw.

[tanya]

Important since March is almost over :popcorn:

For a trip in: June Calendar reservations become available: April 5

Lottery applications must be received during the month of: March


Trip leaders and those applying for permits --- note the March deadline for some things.

[shaggy125]

I believe the group size limit for Das Boot is 6, you have 12 spots open. I guess we should double check.

[frank'n'beans]

On the park website they say 6 for Upper Left Fork (Das Boot).

Jody and myself missed last years and we are hopping to catch this years event! Would really like to meet some more people from Bogley that I read up on so often. I was interested in (Friday~Eye of the Needle) (Saterday~Mystery with Kurt) (Sunday~Yankee and new canyon with Kurt).

So wadaya say?! Can ya sqeeze us in?!

:2thumbs:

[Randi]

I believe the group size limit for Das Boot is 6, you have 12 spots open. I guess we should double check.

It looks like the limit for Das Boot is 6.
How can we work this Shaggy? Can I get a permit for 6 down das boot? And then a permit for 12 down Subway?

And you get a permit for 6 dwn Das Boot?
And then all 12 of us go own the canyon together, if there are 12 of us?
Geez...this permit thing makes life difficult!

I can't get onto the express system for June canyons until 4/5, hopefully we'll get it figured out in the next few days.

Cool that I'm finally gonna do Subway! Thanks Shaggy!
Subway's been on my list forever! And Felicia/John and Alison on board too! YAY! :mrgreen: And DiscGo too!!! And hey Trackrunner, it'll be nice to meet up with you again! ;)~

Wasach, that would be great if you wanna hook up with me for a leader/co leader thing. Spry, Echo or some other canyon would be fine. Whatever people are interested in (better wet than dry) or at least shady. June's gonna be HOT!

[oldno7]

On the park website they say 6 for Upper Left Fork (Das Boot).

Jody and myself missed last years and we are hopping to catch this years event! Would really like to meet some more people from Bogley that I read up on so often. I was interested in (Friday~Eye of the Needle) (Saterday~Mystery with Kurt) (Sunday~Yankee and new canyon with Kurt).

So wadaya say?! Can ya sqeeze us in?!

:2thumbs:

Sounds great Frank. So add yours and Jody's name to Mystery and Yankee/New Canyon?
So we are half full for Mystery, I should know more about the permit on the 5th.

[Don]

I've been working the angles, but it looks like I will not be able to make it to the Zion fest; some Army stuff needs to be done.

[DiscGo]

Sorry Don. We'll miss you friend!

[abirken]

I've been working the angles, but it looks like I will not be able to make it to the Zion fest; some Army stuff needs to be done.


It just won't be the same mixing up different beers without you!!!!!!! :frustrated: :mrgreen:

[DiscGo]

Would you guys be interested in doing a mass Bogley campsite or do you all want to do your own thing?

[nelsonccc]

Okay. Here

[rockgremlin]

[quote=nelsonccc]Okay. Here

[DiscGo]

Remember how you guys were saying that we should go in July or August so it would be warmer? Well....

Okay, this is a serious long shot..... but I need the dates of Bogley Fest bumped back if I were to make it. I just found out that I have an important family engagement at the end of June and I totally spaced it until I invited my brother to come to BogleyFest with me.


Is there a chance in the world this can be bumped back to July 10th-12th or later? I realize that just asking that question seems very vain but really it only shows how VERY BADLY I want to be at BogleyFest.


So, anyway if we proceed with the dates as planned, I won't be able to make it. Sorry guys. I will miss you all a ton and I can't even express how sick I am that I won't be able to make it.

[tanya]

Any date works for me, but I am all for warmer weather, warmer water, no wet/dry suits :mrgreen:

Thoughts everyone?

I know DiscGo is the one that made sure we got this thing going this year, so it would be nice to include him. :popcorn:

[accadacca]

This trip is quickly turning into a cluster****. :lol8:

[AJ]

This trip is quickly turning into a cluster****. :lol8:

It usually does. Don't you remember last year? I think we had 10 pages before we even decided that we were going to have one. :haha: It's the nature of group trips. All the more reason to respect the amount of time that goes into planning them.

If it gets bumped, I might be able to make the later date. Or, if folks think that this one is already too far along into planning phase, someone should step up to relieve DiscGo to finish the planning on this weekend; and maybe DiscGo can start up a thread for another event... Just a thought.

Thanks for all your planning efforts DiscGo, Tanya, and those planning trips.

Take care,
A.J.

[abirken]

Any date works for me, but I am all for warmer weather, warmer water, no wet/dry suits :mrgreen:

Thoughts everyone?

I know DiscGo is the one that made sure we got this thing going this year, so it would be nice to include him. :popcorn:


I am game to do any other time except the first two weeks of August. :popcorn:

[DiscGo]

I know DiscGo is the one that made sure we got this thing going this year, so it would be nice to include him. :popcorn:

Tanya- You have been awesome in planning this trip and I love that you try and look out for me. But my post was more of a desperate cry than a real request. As much as I would love to go, it really is unreasonable to move the dates for one person. Thanks though.


Have a great time guys, and guard your ankles!

[Don]

It took some lying, maybe I'll tell the story in the bar, I don't think I will publish it on the interweb, but I'm back in!

The weekend is free from Army shit, I have a baby sitter and the 26th is my birthday; I can't think of a better way to spend the day!

[Don]

I'd like to do Das Boot and the Subway with the group.
I'm also interested in Englestead if Scott is taking a group.
I just put in a lottery request for Mystery for that weekend for 6 people. I will also try for Spry and maybe Pine Creek when those become available.

I'm planning to drag Josh and hopefully Cody and Brad down with me so we may end up getting our own permits and doing our own thing on the side but any extra spots on our permits will be offered up to Bogles.
I will talk to those guys this week and try to nail down commitments (well, from Josh and Cody, Brad's commitment isn't reliable)(Brad, I know you're probably going to read this and maybe my dogging you out will get a real commitment this time?)

Now that I've cleared up schedule I'm seriously considering going down a few days early, maybe even the weekend before. I have some family in Santa Clara so I could get a shower and a bed pretty easily. I might just burn some leave time and do some backpacking/hiking or canyons & climbing if I can get a partner during the week...

[Sombeech]

I am game to do any other time except the first two weeks of August. :popcorn:


First two weeks of August it is, then. :haha:

[abirken]

I am game to do any other time except the first two weeks of August. :popcorn:


First two weeks of August it is, then. :haha:


shut your pie hole.
:nono:

[trackrunner]

Is there a chance in the world this can be bumped back to July 10th-12th or later? I realize that just asking that question seems very vain but really it only shows how VERY BADLY I want to be at BogleyFest.

We could always do a Disco fest later and get your turn through Subway out of the way. Run a chance with Monsoon season.



I'm also interested in Englestead if Scott is taking a group.

I've wanted to do Englestead again but this time exit down Orderville not up.

[Randi]

Is there a chance in the world this can be bumped back to July 10th-12th or later? I realize that just asking that question seems very vain but really it only shows how VERY BADLY I want to be at BogleyFest.

We could always do a Disco fest later and get your turn through Subway out of the way. Run a chance with Monsoon season.



I'm also interested in Englestead if Scott is taking a group.

I've wanted to do Englestead again but this time exit down Orderville not up.

Bummer that nice guy DiscGo can't make these dates, but it seems like most dates we pick, someone is gonna miss out.

Are we gonna change the dates or stick with the original dates?
I was gonna try for a lottery Subway ticket - tonight.
Wasach, doesn't seem like anyone has signed up for Echo or Spry so maybe no one wants to do those canyons.

Seems to be a lot of interest in Englestead and Orderville. Wanna co lead a trip like that? We could put folks on belay from the bottom (the only scary part being that first rap in). Or Birch & down thru Orderville?
Only problem with that is that Birch might require a 4WD I think - I don't have one. I'd like to do Orderville again - it's wonderful!

[DiscGo]

Are we gonna change the dates or stick with the original dates?

No, Randi. The dates remain. Things happen and this is on me that I didn't check the dates. Originally I had planned on having it earlier in the month but when it was bumped back to the end, I should have caught it. Dates remain and it is going to be AWESOME!

[Cirrus2000]

We could always do a Disco fest later...


Disc! Go! Fest!
Disc! Go! Fest!
Disc! Go! Fest!


I like it!


:rockon:

[Don]

Josh, Brad & Cody would also like to be put on the Das Boot/Subway group list.
We have our own gear, including ropes (3 x 60 meters each, static). Josh & I did Das Boot/Subway last year and would be happy to assist the leader in any way needed. Cody and Brad have not done the route but aren

[tanya]

What about Orderville Canyon?

That is an awesome trip for Newbie's! No one wants to lead it?

http://climb-utah.com/Zion/orderville.htm

http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-orderville-canyon.htm


Also someone could consider doing a Sunday Subway trip since that canyon is full already. :popcorn:


Saturday is the most popular day so we could have some more of those trips going. Many newbies will only do a Saturday canyon and then they have to drive home.

[Randi]

What about Orderville Canyon?

That is an awesome trip for Newbie's! No one wants to lead it?

http://climb-utah.com/Zion/orderville.htm

http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-orderville-canyon.htm


Also someone could consider doing a Sunday Subway trip since that canyon is full already. :popcorn:


Saturday is the most popular day so we could have some more of those trips going. Many newbies will only do a Saturday canyon and then they have to drive home.


Orderville is an awesome canyon! ~ soooo pretty! :mrgreen:

[tanya]

Are those Sunday trips? If we tag a day on them it will help.

[Hnak]

I suppose I could be considered a newbie, to this group anyway. I've done lots of hiking and backpacking, but mostly in AZ, the Grand Canyon especially. I've done a few hikes in Zion, most notably a through hike of the Narrows a couple years ago, and Angel's Landing a couple times. Nothing really crazy... I'm really looking forward to getting some play time in these canyons...

Sure looks like fun!

Hank :nod:

[Bo_Beck]

I would like to head into Echo and/or Spry with you Randi? Not sure what day(s) you were planning them for? I may be able to tag along on the Pine Creek/Keyhole as well with Shaggy! :2thumbs:
Bo

[tanya]

Welcome to the group Hank! You know Bo from the Grand Canyon and Zion Yahoo Groups.

Randi and Bo I will put Sunday on those trips. If I have things wrong just let me know please and I will fix them.

[Hnak]

Tanya, thanks for helping me get set up for these hikes. I'm looking forward to finally meeting Bo and seeing you again... and maybe exploring some ideas I have for an 'interesting' loop in Marble Canyon one of these days. I'll be scouting out part of the route in a couple weeks...

:mrgreen:

Hank


Welcome to the group Hank! You know Bo from the Grand Canyon and Zion Yahoo Groups.

Randi and Bo I will put Sunday on those trips. If I have things wrong just let me know please and I will fix them.

[shaggy125]

ummmm... so I have bad news. My work schedule may be changing at the end of May and I would end up working the weekend of Bogley fest. I won't know for sure for a month or so but I maybe shouldn't be committing to leadnig if I might end up not making it. Sorry :(

[mrbrejcha]

ummmm... so I have bad news. My work schedule may be changing at the end of May and I would end up working the weekend of Bogley fest. I won't know for sure for a month or so but I maybe shouldn't be committing to leadnig if I might end up not making it. Sorry :(

duuuuuuuuude

[Don]

ummmm... so I have bad news. My work schedule may be changing at the end of May and I would end up working the weekend of Bogley fest. I won't know for sure for a month or so but I maybe shouldn't be committing to leadnig if I might end up not making it. Sorry :(

While I hope you can make it, I'm sure either Josh or I could get a strong hiker, who has rappeled before, through Das Boot and the Subway safely. Together we could get Ozzy Osoborn through safely. :haha:

[abirken]

i wouldn't miss out on a hike with bo. :nod: can you please put me down for the sunday hike with randi and bo/echo or spry? thank you. :2thumbs:

[Randi]

ummmm... so I have bad news. My work schedule may be changing at the end of May and I would end up working the weekend of Bogley fest. I won't know for sure for a month or so but I maybe shouldn't be committing to leadnig if I might end up not making it. Sorry :(
Duuuuuuuude! Matt was only coming cuz you were going!!!!
How we gonna have a shagadelic time without the Shagster? :ne_nau:

I guess I'm on my own. I hope to heck "someone" in the group can navigate! So if you don't show up Shaggy, Don can take your spot on the Subway hike. I do hope your schedule changes and you are able to make it! Work sucks! There's no way I'd even do it if I didn't need the green! :mrgreen:

PS: I went on line last night to get a lottery for the Subway and the only month they had available was for July! What does this mean? A June calendar isn't available on-line for "regular" permits....not until April 5th Tanya? So I guess I need to get back on line & try to get a permit on the 5th then? I hope I can get one!

[tanya]

i wouldn't miss out on a hike with bo. :nod: can you please put me down for the sunday hike with randi and bo/echo or spry? thank you. :2thumbs:

We had to make some changes due to Shaggy's maybe schedule.

Randi is doing Mystery on Sunday
Bo is doing Pine Creek and Keyhole on Sunday

Mystery is an awesome canyon where the last rappel takes you into the Zion Narrows. It is a favorite of many.

Pine Creek and Keyhole you did last trip, but when the water level changes Pine Creek can seem like a whole different place.

[ststephen]

In my limited time with my trip coming up on Friday I've read a bit on the Zion canyons. I think my clan, Ststephen (aka Paul), Robin and Aaron would probably be OK with Mystery and that sounds like a great slot. The rap over the boulder might be tricky but they are not first-time rappelers.

OTOH, we would also be fine doing any of the easy canyons like Orderville. We plan to be there for full days Sat and Sun. I know 3 people eats up a lot of spaces on a permit so I want to be flexible.

My last checkin here is tomorrow night. Thanks to all the organizers!

[tanya]

Hi Paul.

I have you for Mystery on Sunday. How about this trip on Saturday: These are awesome canyons for those that have not done them. Most of our group did them last year though.

Leader: Shaggy and Bo
Pine Creek and Keyhole on Sunday - 12 limit

[ststephen]

Just skimmed the description: those sound like fun! My son and wife have wet suits that they use for swimming in the ocean. I guess I'll need to get one too.

Sure put us down for these on Sat and Mystery on Sun. That sounds like a good progression as well.

[Deathcricket]

Oh, Spry on Sat with MrBrechia sounds like fun to. Sign me up for that, pretty please.

And +1 on Orderville being awesome. Be sure to bring a tube for the relaxing float down the narrows at the end. If I had to pick between Subway (non das boot) and Orderville I would pick Orderville personally. But with Das boot, it's a toss up.

:2thumbs:

[abirken]

Sunday canyon looks good. Thank you!

[Randi]

Bogleyfest - Post in this thread the trip(s) you would like to do

If you feel you need help in the canyons message (PM) the person leading the canyon you are interested in .... but ultimately....
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY!

*Thanks for this reminder to all. I am NOT a leader per say. I've done a lot of canyons, but I've never taken a class, I've never really "lead" anyone but my own children through a canyon. That said, I'll be happy to participate by way of going with "you" through a canyon, which I will gladly secure the permit for! And being a "mom", I'm gonna be concerned with everyone's safety/well being of course! :mrgreen:

Bringing up the issue of permits, I plan to get a Das Boot permit (on-line) tomorrow. Only 6 can go, including me. Which 5 of you out of this list wants to sign on to that trip?

Six others can do Subway only, and we can all meet up at the confluence to continue as a group of 12 (Bo will secure the Subway permit I think).

This is my understanding anyway.

Matt, are you picking up the permit for Mystery on Sunday?


Trip Organizers: Shaggy, Randi, Bo and Shaun (Trackrunner)
Das Boot - 6 limit and Subway on Saturday - 12 limit
*Only 6 total will be able to do Das Boot - Zion Rules
4. Alsion
5. Felicia
6. John
7. Don
8. Josh
9. Brad
10. Cody
11. DiscGo - maybe
12. Ben (DiscGo's brother) - maybe
Trip Full unless DiscGo and his brother don't go. Contact DiscGo for an update.


Trip Organizers: MrBrenchia (Matt) and Randi - Mystery on Sunday - Limit 6
3. Paul (Ststephen)
4. Robin
5. Aaron
6. Alison
Trip Full

[mrbrejcha]

Matt, are you picking up the permit for Mystery on Sunday?



I'll be out of town the 5th but will reserve permits for my Sat (Spry) and Sun (Mystery) trips Mon the 6th. (I'll get Friday's permit too :naughty: )

-Matt

[Felicia]

Randi: John and I want to go through Das Boot. :nod:

[abirken]

Two things: did I miss out on the 6 for das boot? if so, i'll plan on just doing subway. also, wanted to find out if you are going to start a wait list? if so, i'd love to add on my friend kristen for both of the saturday and sunday canyons with me. thanks again!! :2thumbs:

[ratagonia]

Matt, are you picking up the permit for Mystery on Sunday?



I'll be out of town the 5th but will reserve permits for my Sat (Spry) and Sun (Mystery) trips Mon the 6th. (I'll get Friday's permit too :naughty: )

-Matt

As a result of a sultry direct request from Tanya, I'm in. I'll see what permits I can pick up tomorrow night, and post up soon.

Tom

[tanya]

Matt, are you picking up the permit for Mystery on Sunday?



I'll be out of town the 5th but will reserve permits for my Sat (Spry) and Sun (Mystery) trips Mon the 6th. (I'll get Friday's permit too :naughty: )

-Matt

As a result of a sultry direct request from Tanya, I'm in. I'll see what permits I can pick up tomorrow night, and post up soon.

Tom

:rockon: :five: :2thumbs: :popcorn: :hail2thechief: :friday: :killen: :party: :ahh:

[tanya]

Two things: did I miss out on the 6 for das boot? if so, i'll plan on just doing subway. also, wanted to find out if you are going to start a wait list? if so, i'd love to add on my friend kristen for both of the saturday and sunday canyons with me. thanks again!! :2thumbs:

I put Kirsten on as waiting, but you could just switch to trips that are not full. Tom should be starting a couple of new ones as well.

[oldno7]

I was un successful in the lottery for Mystery on Saturday.
Should be able to get a walkin if someone is at the BC desk by 5:00AM Fri. Morning.
If by some strange reason that doesn't work, plan "B" would be to do Spry.
I got 3 Walk-in Mystery permits last year, key was being there early.

They are offering no on-line permits for Mystery during this Fest.

[tanya]

Maybe we can offer alternatives if we can't get permits, for canyons like Birch that do not need permits. I like Birch probably better than any of the canyons in/around Zion other than Kolob!

Rock! Kolob is the BEST!!!! :haha:

[frank'n'beans]

Seems like kolob/eye is on the full side. I would hate to be waiting to rappel for 20 minutes in that cold ass water lol. Anyways anyone doing anything else on friday? Seems to me that there is only one trip for friday?! im willing to wait for the walk-ins for mystery on friday and then what? Anyone want to do a canyon that day? Ill do anything!





:doorpeak:

[trackrunner]

Anyways anyone doing anything else on friday? Seems to me that there is only one trip for friday?!

Since Das Boot is full I'm thinking of knocking that canyon off my hit list sooner and let someone else take my spot, as long as there is enough leadership for that canyon, or have a Friday permit.

Some had wanted to do Englstead Orderville. Think that would be a good Friday canyon (though not noob friendly). Or Telephone/Behunin.

I'm game for what ever. Let me know which canyons and I'll try securing a permit.

Birch maybe a good Sunday canyon.

[trackrunner]

What permits did someone get? Anyone need me to get one.

[oldno7]

Seems like kolob/eye is on the full side. I would hate to be waiting to rappel for 20 minutes in that cold ass water lol. Anyways anyone doing anything else on friday? Seems to me that there is only one trip for friday?! im willing to wait for the walk-ins for mystery on friday and then what? Anyone want to do a canyon that day? Ill do anything!





:doorpeak:

Frank
If you get in line early on Friday and get our mystery permit, I do any canyon with you that you and Jody want. Let me know.
Kurt

[Jaxx]

OK it looks like I'm in. Unless something gets planned for scouts.
It will be me, my wife(canyongirl), brother in law(chabidiah) and another brother in law who doesn't have a name on here. So 4 total.

We were hoping to do a Telephone/Behunin combo on Saturday. And we were hoping to join Kurt's group on Sunday with the Yankee Doodle/new canyon if possible.

Chabidiah is the most experienced in the group. I would classify myself as intermediate/noob. I feel confident in getting myself and my wife down and I can teach the basics but probably some rappelling experience is needed to come with us. We have not done either canyon before so if anyone has we would love to have you with us to speed things up. Seems like we always take the "scenic route" when trying to navigate new canyons.

[oldno7]

Add Jaxx and Crew to My Sunday's Excellent adventure.

I privated Jaxx, all people coming on trips with me should have prior rappelling experience. The canyons are never a place to learn.(first time rappelling)

[Jaxx]

Sweet! I reserved the permits for the behunin/telephone combo. Printing them out online is going to be so convenient and sweet! It was worth watching that movie.

[ratagonia]

I scored permits for Spry on Friday, Engelstead on Saturday, and plan on Birch Hollow on Sunday. Limits each day are 6, 6 and 8 let's say, and include me.

Saturday's Engelstead is open to all but the beginingest beginners.

Sunday's Birch Hollow will be an instructional trip as much as anything, so is open to all, including beginingest beginners. Those without patience should find something else to do. High-Clearance 4WD especially desirable so we can avoid the long walk out.

Needless to say, HELMETS ARE REQUIRED for all of these trips.

Do I attempt to modify the master-plan myself, or is this something the ever-helpful Tanya takes care of???

Tom

[tanya]

I scored permits for Spry on Friday, Engelstead on Saturday, and plan on Birch Hollow on Sunday. Limits each day are 6, 6 and 8 let's say, and include me.

Saturday's Engelstead is open to all but the beginingest beginners.

Sunday's Birch Hollow will be an instructional trip as much as anything, so is open to all, including beginingest beginners. Those without patience should find something else to do. High-Clearance 4WD especially desirable so we can avoid the long walk out.

Needless to say, HELMETS ARE REQUIRED for all of these trips.

Do I attempt to modify the master-plan myself, or is this something the ever-helpful Tanya takes care of???

Tom

I just post the stuff on the first post and the one that will be after this post. You get to do all the other work yourself. :mrgreen:

:five:

[Deathcricket]

Just wanted to throw this out also. I think I already know the answer but ya never know. Being a noob, I bought 11m ropes (150feet x 2) before I knew what was up. They are super heavy for these types of trips I imagine. Should I just leave them home or is there going to be a rope shortage and they might be still be needed you think?

[tanya]

Just wanted to throw this out also. I think I already know the answer but ya never know. Being a noob, I bought 11m ropes (150feet x 2) before I knew what was up. They are super heavy for these types of trips I imagine. Should I just leave them home or is there going to be a rope shortage and they might be still be needed you think?


http://www.bogley.com/forum/images/avatars/38065677949add9e94469a.jpg

This does not look much like a Deathcricket. :lol8:

[Felicia]

OK - John and I really want to do Birch on Sunday with Tom. We have a four wheel drive truck.


:2thumbs:

[Deathcricket]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/images/avatars/38065677949add9e94469a.jpg

This does not look much like a Deathcricket. :lol8:

I'm turning over a new leaf and showing my cuddly side on the internets.
:haha:

[Jaxx]

ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them

[Randi]

OK - John and I really want to do Birch on Sunday with Tom. We have a four wheel drive truck.


:2thumbs:

So you don't want to do Das Boot/Subway on Sunday?
Will you be able to do it on Sat? Or you guys gonna do something shorter cuz you're getting in late?

Tom took my girls and I down Birch years ago ~ it was their first canyon ever! OMG ~ I just looked up the Rave pix and it was back in 2003! Sarah was 12 & Rachael 10! Their 2nd canyon was Pine Creek, and Tom led us through that one as well! Gosh my girls were so little then!

Pix pilfered from Tom's Rave:http://canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0309summ/index.htm

[tanya]

I have the Subway/Das Boot trip set for Saturday. Is there a private trip on Sunday or are things messed up? :mrgreen:

[jcaff]

Mark me down for Birch Hollow on Sunday with Tom. Thanks!

[jcaff]

Tanya, I noticed that you offered your place as a crash pad. That could be a mistake as I am asking you if it would be OK to string my tent in your yard, if there no space in the group camp at Watchman. I noticed that all the group sites were taken for that weekend; I'm not sure if one has been reserved for Bogleyfest or not. Do you know? If not, you may have one more guest. My footprint should be somewhere below zero after I leave as I would be willing to help clean up your place should that be necessary. At any rate, I look forward to meeting with you and thank you for your hospitality.
John

[ratagonia]

OK - John and I really want to do Birch on Sunday with Tom. We have a four wheel drive truck.

:2thumbs:

Excellent!!!

And we can spend a few minutes re-creating the Pine Creek Rescue Scenario...

T :rockon:

[ratagonia]

ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them

Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!

Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...

Tom

[DiscGo]

Tanya- I love your new profile picture! It is very fun.



And I can confirm right now that miracles pending, I am a definite no go for Bogleyfest. So my name and my brother's name can be removed. I'm hoping to come down in July and have some fun with you though and I am NOT missing BogleyFest in 2010!

[oldno7]

ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them

Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!

Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...

Tom

Your not gonna make the poor guy pack 300' of 13mm are you? :haha:

[tanya]

Tanya, I noticed that you offered your place as a crash pad. That could be a mistake as I am asking you if it would be OK to string my tent in your yard, if there no space in the group camp at Watchman. I noticed that all the group sites were taken for that weekend; I'm not sure if one has been reserved for Bogleyfest or not. Do you know? If not, you may have one more guest. My footprint should be somewhere below zero after I leave as I would be willing to help clean up your place should that be necessary. At any rate, I look forward to meeting with you and thank you for your hospitality.
John

I am living in a condo like house, there is no back yard... its a community area, so that would not work too well. You can camp on the floor in the house though, or if camping is what you are into the group usually stays near Virgin in a free area for camping so there are no limits to the people there. PM Nelson or Rockgremlin for info, or somewhere in this thread Nelson posted that info.

These are houses that I have so that I can rent them out, but I am living in one right now. Take a look at the photos, it shows a picture out the back door and you can see what I am talking about. Remember folks, this is in Ivins, just south of St. George, which is about an hour from Zion.

http://www.zionnational-park.com/saint-george-rental-homes.htm

[Jaxx]

Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!

Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...

Tom

I think we will be ok with the ropes. We have carried 300ft worth before. Plus its mostly down hill! we were thinking about bringing cheap tubes for the narrows, good or bad idea?

I am so pumped about this bogleyfest. It is going to be awesome!

Dan-
You sent me a PM a little while ago that said something like "You have to go to the Bogleyfest. Make your schedule work around the fest". So I am just reminding you. No pressure :haha:

[ratagonia]

I think we will be ok with the ropes. We have carried 300ft worth before. Plus its mostly down hill! we were thinking about bringing cheap tubes for the narrows, good or bad idea?


Even if you DON'T get busted, tubes are unlikely to provide much if any fun in the Narrows. The water will likely be too low. (and they are not allowed, is my understanding).

T :moses:

[tanya]

Bo and I rented Kayaks from Zion Rock Guides in Springdale once and it was a blast!!! It was much funner than tubes. Of course you want to do this outside the park in Springdale rather than going through the narrows. There were lots of people in tubes that we had to go around though.

[Deathcricket]

Is it too late to change? If I could do spry on friday instead of Sat? Then I could sign up for Englestead on Sat with Jaxx. That would fill out my weekend, and I always wanted to meet Jaxx in person. Double bonus!

[ratagonia]

ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them

Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!

Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...

Tom

Your not gonna make the poor guy pack 300' of 13mm are you? :haha:

Nah, I'm not in the Figure-8 / Totem club, Kirk.

Two 300' 9mm ropes. And then a 120' 8mm for the other rappels, cause the 9mms are just too heavy to be fun to use for all the short rappels.

T

[DiscGo]

Dan-
You sent me a PM a little while ago that said something like "You have to go to the Bogleyfest. Make your schedule work around the fest". So I am just reminding you. No pressure :haha:

Yeah, and you didn't think you could go back then. I'm starting to think you only decided to go when you found out I wasn't going :).


My brother is flying in that weekend with his family to baptize his daughter out here so that family can be around for it. My brother who is not a member of Bogley (but was going to come with me) has been trying to get me to skip the baptism and still go to Bogleyfest, but he's my brother and more than not wanting to miss out on something important to him, I want to make sure he knows that he comes first. So I'm out :(.

[Jaxx]

Yeah, and you didn't think you could go back then. I'm starting to think you only decided to go when you found out I wasn't going :).


My brother is flying in that weekend with his family to baptize his daughter out here so that family can be around for it. My brother who is not a member of Bogley (but was going to come with me) has been trying to get me to skip the baptism and still go to Bogleyfest, but he's my brother and more than not wanting to miss out on something important to him, I want to make sure he knows that he comes first. So I'm out :(.

We keep trying to get together but I guess it just isn't our fate. I think the baptism is more important. I am doing the same this weekend for my daughter!

Deathcricket-
That would be awesome to meet you finally. I sent you a PM saying the same thing and then checked this thread and you posted what I PM'd. FREAKY!

Tom-
Thanks for not making us pack 13mm :haha:
We could bring the 120 feet of rope if you don't want to bring yours.

[UtahAdventureGuide]

Anyone want to help lead trips through Imlay, Heaps, or maybe IceBox? I can lead but would like a second.

Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

[UtahAdventureGuide]

Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

Ryan Gardner will also join us so put both of us down for those.

[oldno7]

ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them

Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!

Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...

Tom

Your not gonna make the poor guy pack 300' of 13mm are you? :haha:

Nah, I'm not in the Figure-8 / Totem club, Kirk.



T

I guess we have something in common then,Thom

[thedesertnomad]

We have ample camping places if anyone needs a place to crash on the East Rim (Zion Ponderosa). We are about 1/2 mile south of the East Mesa trailhead (DO NOT ask Randi for directions!!!) I highly doubt I will have built our cabin by then, but running water and flat ground with nice views. Shoot me an email if anyone needs it.

If still available throw me on the Englestead and Birch trips (Sat. and Sunday)

Tom, maybe you can FINALLY see our place and pick up your beer!!!

Look forward to seeing all and meeting some!

[chapin]

Getting geeked about summer--thanks all for giving me something to look forward to.

If possible, sign me up for the Friday Spry and the Sunday Birch--it'll be great to see you again, Tom. I have a low clearance awd (honda element)

Additional notes:

-if anyone's game, i'd love to do a moonlight keyhole. done it before, and it's loads of fun. Happy to lead this one, any night.
-if anyone is interested in doing a 2.5 day/2 night right fork of great west before or after bogley fest, PM me.

[tanya]

Anyone want to help lead trips through Imlay, Heaps, or maybe IceBox? I can lead but would like a second.

Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

Imlay and Heaps are a little too much for this sort of fest, but you could organize something in private if you wish.

[Randi]

We have ample camping places if anyone needs a place to crash on the East Rim (Zion Ponderosa). We are about 1/2 mile south of the East Mesa trailhead (DO NOT ask Randi for directions!!!)

Oh, so it's like that huh?
I cannot disagree! And I hope that someone/anyone without the misdirection gene will be coming along for the Das Boot trip on Sat.

Speaking of that...I don't know who's on or off that trip!


I highly doubt I will have built our cabin by then, but running water and flat ground with nice views. Shoot me an email if anyone needs it.

If still available throw me on the Englestead and Birch trips (Sat. and Sunday)

How does one get to your cabin without getting lost? :mrgreen:


Look forward to seeing all and meeting some!

You gonna be around on Friday?
I'm doing a canyon with Matt & you're welcome to hang with us if you like. I sent you a PM.

[tanya]

Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

Ryan Gardner will also join us so put both of us down for those.

I can't find Boundary on the park permit system, but I am sure it needs a permit. How many are allowed guys? I am thinking this trip is probably full due to the permit limit. I do have you and Ryan on the others you requested though. :2thumbs:

[UtahAdventureGuide]

-if anyone's game, i'd love to do a moonlight keyhole. done it before, and it's loads of fun. Happy to lead this one, any night.

I'm sure Ryan and I would join you, we've both moonlighted keyhole a couple times.

[intellectualdesperado]

Got room for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, and Birch Hollow?



Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

Ryan Gardner will also join us so put both of us down for those.

I can't find Boundary on the park permit system, but I am sure it needs a permit. How many are allowed guys? I am thinking this trip is probably full due to the permit limit. I do have you and Ryan on the others you requested though. :2thumbs:

[tanya]

Got room for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, and Birch Hollow?



Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.

Ryan Gardner will also join us so put both of us down for those.

I can't find Boundary on the park permit system, but I am sure it needs a permit. How many are allowed guys? I am thinking this trip is probably full due to the permit limit. I do have you and Ryan on the others you requested though. :2thumbs:

Boundary I believe is full and Birch is full. There is room on Rock Canyon. Take a look at the list and see what else interests you. :nod:

[tanya]

We have ample camping places if anyone needs a place to crash on the East Rim (Zion Ponderosa). We are about 1/2 mile south of the East Mesa trailhead (DO NOT ask Randi for directions!!!) I highly doubt I will have built our cabin by then, but running water and flat ground with nice views. Shoot me an email if anyone needs it.

If still available throw me on the Englestead and Birch trips (Sat. and Sunday)

Tom, maybe you can FINALLY see our place and pick up your beer!!!

Look forward to seeing all and meeting some!

Awesome spot for a group campsite and free at that!!! :five:

Take a look at the list - Englestead is full. I put you on Birch though. See what there is open on the list and choose another.

Welcome to you and the others that are new to Bogley that I have not said hi to! :rockon:

[nelsonccc]

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Trip Organizers: Nelson and Rockgremlin
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[tanya]

We need to tell my Buddy, Shane, then that he needs to update his website on Boundary. Someone else told me too, I think Kurt, that we do need a permit.

Last I heard though was that no one could do it besides Zion Adventure Company. I am sure Tom knows the real deal?

Am I lost or some what on base? I am lost on this canyon -- but hopefully I am not the only lost one. :lol8:

[ratagonia]

We need to tell my Buddy, Shane, then that he needs to update his website on Boundary. Someone else told me too, I think Kurt, that we do need a permit.

Last I heard though was that no one could do it besides Zion Adventure Company. I am sure Tom knows the real deal?

Am I lost or some what on base? I am lost on this canyon -- but hopefully I am not the only lost one. :lol8:

Two different canyons. Boundary is on BLM land outside the park, south of Kolob, free and clear, no permit required, excellent canyon, shorted way to tick the MIA exit.

Oak Creek is on private land north of Kolob, CAN be guided by ZAC, probably open to privates by crossing private land that was not posted as of last year. Extraordinary canyon, longer to the MIA, but shorter than Kolob.

Oak Creek is also called the Eye of the Needle, and a few other mis0direction names.

Tom :moses:

[tanya]

It must just be me all confused then. :haha: Thanks Tom!

Everyone that wanted has been added to Boundary (I hope) :nod:
..and the other canyons that were requested.

We are still sort of confused on the Subway and Das Boot trip so everyone please get with Randi and unconfuse this one!

[thedesertnomad]

Awesome spot for a group campsite and free at that!!! :five:

Take a look at the list - Englestead is full. I put you on Birch though. See what there is open on the list and choose another.

Welcome to you and the others that are new to Bogley that I have not said hi to! :rockon:


Yeah, The list didn't say "Trip Full", but I should have known better, having been through that one multiple times. I will however offer my services to sherpa rope back to my place so you don't have to haul 300 feet through the canyon :Ahnuld:

[accadacca]

I'll jump in with the Boundary crew on Saturday. Tks.

[tanya]

Dinner is going to be the hard part! There are a lot of us going! :lol8:

[accadacca]

Dinner is going to be the hard part! There are a lot of us going! :lol8:
Yeah, I may just bring my own food. I don't think you can count on getting any otherwise. :lol8:

[tanya]

:lol8:


6000 posts! I need a life :haha:

[accadacca]

:lol8:


6000 posts! I need a life :haha:
Nah, bogley is life. The interwebs are taking over our social lives... :nod:

What ya gonna do. :ne_nau:

[accadacca]

:lol8:


6000 posts! I need a life :haha:
Nah, bogley is life. The interwebs are taking over our social lives... :nod:

What ya gonna do. :ne_nau:
BTW, your 2 spots behind me woman. :haha:

[chapin]

filling up my dance card...it looks like there is one spot left on the saturday boundary...if that's correct, sign me up.

Chapin

[ppurdom]

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I'm very interested Bogleyfest. Not a begginner but more like a novice.

I would be pleased to be added to Spry on Friday & Rock Canyon on Sunday.

Interested in Subway, if a open spot is on a permit.

Thanks,

Paul

[Don]

My group got bigger, I