Frame Pump recommendations?

[Kent K25]

So I already have a Wrench Force Micro Mini Pump
http://501main.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=1807

But I am dissatisfied with it. I bought it before really knowing much about what I was looking at and over time have realized it was a big waste. I'm using it for mountain biking and need it to give me 40-60 psi when I use it but generally can't get it past 25-30, nowhere near high enough to allow me to continue on a trail. I had to abandon a ride I was looking forward to all week because this pump couldn't give enough pressure after fixing a flat. So is it a crappy pump or a crappy operator? I just hit a wall where it won't take any more in and just appears to be leaking due to a bad seal.

Anyone have a frame pump at a decent price that works well for them all the time?

[devo_stevo]

I've had good luck over the years with the Topeak and Blackburn pumps. Haven't really had a bad one from either of those brands.

[theking648]

ditto on that... i can get it up to 20 psi which is enough to ride the bike off the trail but not enough to continue and do all the fun stuff.

i've be looking into the Co2 but i don't like the prices.

and don't even get me started on tubeless. I still don't understand how they work.

[Kent K25]

Haha, sounds like we're in the same boat Dave.

I've read around a bit and the Topeak Mountain Morph got a lot of good reviews.

[devo_stevo]

Tubeless is good stuff guys. Don't count it out without trying it. If you use the right setup (which isn't hard) you can go without a flat until you wear the tire out and never have to worry about it. The key to it IMHO is to not cheat the system. As in use tubeless tires and tubeless wheels.

The Stan's system is ok and it will save some weight, but is not as reliable as it should be. Tubeless tires weigh a bit more, but it's worth it if you ask me. I run tubeless tires with 4oz. of Slime for ATV tires on Bontrager Race Lite wheels. This works great and I don't have to worry about pinch flats and goatheads. The other benefit of the Slime is that it won't dry up like Stan's does in 3-6 months.

Don't believe the hype and do what works for you and your ride.

[fourtycal]

I was at Fuzzys one day and he showed me this new line, Lezyne. I have not tried one yet but they look and feel like very high quality tools.

http://www.lezyne.com/Year2/AirDrive.html

[tallsteve]

I got rid of my frame pump and went to the mini CO2 inflator: http://www.genuineinnovations.com/bikeprods.aspx?prodid=1000
Very small, easy to carry and works great. I can inflate a 2.1 tire 1.5 times per 16gm cartridge. Mikey at utahmountainbiking.com has a 5 pack of the 16gm cartridges for $8.75. You can also buy them at WalMart for less than at the LBS. I still carry a floor pump in the Jeep just in case a tire needs air at the trailhead but on the trail for as little as I get flats this mini inflator has been awesome. When I ride I carry 2 of the cartridges.

[Kent K25]

I got rid of my frame pump and went to the mini CO2 inflator: http://www.genuineinnovations.com/bikeprods.aspx?prodid=1000
Very small, easy to carry and works great. I can inflate a 2.1 tire 1.5 times per 16gm cartridge. Mikey at utahmountainbiking.com has a 5 pack of the 16gm cartridges for $8.75. You can also buy them at WalMart for less than at the LBS. I still carry a floor pump in the Jeep just in case a tire needs air at the trailhead but on the trail for as little as I get flats this mini inflator has been awesome. When I ride I carry 2 of the cartridges.

What do you do about finding the holes....just use a little of the cartridge, find the holes/patch then inflate again?

[tallsteve]

Yep. With tubes just put enough air into the tube (just a split-seconds worth) to find the hole, then patch. Since making the switch to tubeless about 2 months ago, I have not had a flat yet (kow). When I was running tubes I did have one flat last spring that I used up a whole cartridge on just trying to find the stupid hole. That's why I always carry 2 cartridges. If I'm riding a trail that would have a very long hike out, in consequence of running out of CO2, I always carry 3 cartridges but have never used that many on a ride. Just make sure you get at least the 16gm size. I've tried the smaller cartridges and they just don't have enough air. For my tubeless flat fix I also carry a tube of super-glue to seal any hole bigger than what the Stans will seal but again have never had to use it.

[greyhair biker]

For a handpump I use Topeak and Blackburn but I agree with the Genuine innovations co2 pump. Good quality stuff.

[Kent K25]

Thanks for all the info guys. Decided to go with the Genuine Innovations Air Chuck.

[tallsteve]

Good call. Let us know what you think after you use it the first time.

[Kent K25]

Good call. Let us know what you think after you use it the first time.

Will do, although I hope it's a long time from now.

I also bought 2 of those 5-packs of CO2 from umb.

[Kent K25]

Good call. Let us know what you think after you use it the first time.

Finally used it last month, actually theKing was the first one to use it. He got a flat on our ride on Prospector/Church Rocks. Worked GREAT!