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Iceaxe
06-26-2008, 08:04 AM
Canyonlands suicide one of 18 reported in national parks this year
The Associated Press - Salt Lake Tribune

Having mailed a farewell letter to his family back in Minnesota, Jerry O. Wolff stepped off a shuttle bus on a sunny Sunday morning and disappeared into Utah's rugged Canyonlands National Park.

"I am gone in a remote wilderness where I can return my body and soul to nature. There is no reason for anyone to look for me, just leave me where I am," he wrote.

No trace of Wolff has been found since he was last seen May 11. Park officials assume the 65-year-old biology professor committed suicide.

Millions of people come to national parks each year to enjoy the splendors of wildlife and natural beauty, but a tiny fraction arrive with a grim agenda.

So far this year, at least 18 people have committed suicide in America's national parks, from the swamplands of the Everglades and the beaches of Cape Cod to the rain-soaked forests of Olympic National Park and the bleak expanse of the Mojave Desert.

For some, the parks are apparently just a convenient place to end it all. Others, though, seem to seek out the beauty and solace of these spots.

"Parks hold a special place in people's hearts," said Al Nash, a spokesman at Yellowstone, where five suicides have been recorded since 1997. "There are some individuals who feel it's important to have that kind of connection in those final moments."

As for Wolff, Jim Hughes, the police chief in his hometown of Sartell, Minn., said the St. Cloud State University professor had been to Canyonlands before for research. As for why he apparently took his life, Wolff had "some personal issues," the chief said. But he said he had no details.

The day after Wolff disappeared, searchers found the body of a 27-year-old man who drove into Colorado National Monument near Grand Junction, Colo., parked on the side of a road, walked about 200 yards away and shot himself.

At the same park last October, a 57-year-old woman drove her station wagon off a 250-foot cliff. A few weeks later, a 63-year-old man drove to an overlook at the park called Cold Shivers Point, sat on a rock outcropping overlooking a valley and shot himself.

"It's become known in this area as a place that suicides are happening, but you can be sure the staff here are doing everything we can to prevent them," said Joan Anzelmo, superintendent of the Colorado National Monument.

Rangers are trained in suicide prevention, and park officials are contemplating closing certain areas at night and adding more guardrails. Employees in places like Grand Canyon are taught to keep an eye out for notes taped to steering wheels.

Ten people have killed themselves at the Grand Canyon since 2004, the most of any park in recent years, according to the Park Service. The 1991 movie "Thelma & Louise" _ which ends with the pair driving off a cliff in a classic Thunderbird convertible _ has been blamed by some for a string of copycat suicides at the Grand Canyon, even though the scene was actually filmed at a state park in Utah.

"Maybe it's the romanticization of a suicide attempt in a spectacular place," said Michael Ghiglieri, who has co-written books about deaths at the Grand Canyon and Yosemite.

Among the stories he has recounted: A young man once asked a couple to take his picture at Grand Canyon, then jumped to his death in front of them. Another man, who had squandered an inheritance, climbed to the top of Yosemite Falls, wrote his will _ leaving money to have a redwood planted on his grave _ and then leaped off the falls, the highest in North America.

Lanny Berman, executive director of the American Association of Suicidology, said that when it comes to suicides in national parks, in general, "the driving force for most is availability and accessibility and, secondarily, whether that site offers something that other sites don't."

At Colorado National Monument, Anzelmo said, suicides there are, in part, a reflection of nearby Mesa County, where the suicide rate is roughly twice the national average.

One of the first recorded suicides in national park history was that of a 27-year-old woman in Yellowstone who apparently killed herself with an overdose of morphine in 1884, just 12 years after the national park was created, according to Yellowstone historian Lee Whittlesey. Most suicides in that park's history were by park employees, he said.

"Perhaps these persons wanted their last moments to be spent in a beautiful or famous place, or perhaps they wanted their deaths somehow inextricably linked to nature," Whittlesey wrote in his book "Death in Yellowstone."

Last year, there were at least 26 suicides or probable suicides in the national park system's 391 units, according to Bill Halainen, who compiles ranger reports daily for the Park Service. The Park Service does not have complete figures for earlier years.

Halainen said he believes the numbers fluctuate from one year to the next, and there is "no clear indication of any sustained upward trend."

This year began with a search for a 46-year-old carpenter with cancer who drove his truck to Everglades National Park, climbed into his canoe and vanished. The most recent case involved a 47-year-old man at Timpanogos Cave National Monument in Utah who called the sheriff's department from the visitors center June 10 and told dispatchers he was going to shoot himself and where his body could be found. The body was discovered 15 minutes later.

When people vanish, Park Service employees and sometimes volunteers typically mount a search. Recovering bodies and vehicles, particularly when they go over a cliff, can require helicopters, rappelling and other dangerous exploits.

"Our expectation is that people are coming to the national parks to have a good time," said Maureen Oltrogge, a spokeswoman at Grand Canyon. "When something tragic happens, it's really difficult on the staff."

sparker1
06-26-2008, 08:15 AM
I'm not sure what would drive me to suicide, because I am the eternal optimist. However, if I decided to do it, I'd choose the San Juan mountains of Colorado. The idea of getting so lost that there is doubt, and the body is never found, appeals to me.

JP
06-26-2008, 08:18 AM
That's it, they should shut these places down :haha:

Mooseman70
06-26-2008, 09:20 AM
:lol8:, JP!

I remember a case back home in So Cal where a guy did a similar thing, just in the Los Padres N.F. instead of a National Park.

I was over the Missing Persons Unit for my agency, and was going over open cases one day when I read through one that was 7 years old at the time.

The man dropped off a note at his mother's place, in which he wrote that his life was of no value and that he was going off to a remote location in the backcountry to end his life. The note said that his family members should divy up his belongings - house, car, personal effects, and divide the proceeds up amongst them. As with this guy in the Canyonlands case, this man told his family to not look for him. He wanted to be left in the backcountry forever, as there was the only place where he found peace. After he disappeared, the family filed a missing person's report. The County Sheriff's office conducted SAR operations in the backcountry to try and find him for weeks, but they only found his vehicle at the trailhead. The searches were eventually called off.

In the summer of 2004, the National Forest had a major forest fire and at the tail end of the mop up operations, I received a phone call from our County Coroner's office asking if I had an open case on this missing person. I said I did, and the Coroner proceeded to tell me that a day earlier, a USFS Hand Crew was hiking through a remote campsite, approx. 12 miles from the nearest road, and came across skeletonized human remains. They contacted the Fire base, who called the County Sheriff and the Sheriff sent up one of their SAR Huey's with the Coroner onboard.

Once there, they found a partially clothed skeleton, with some of the bones scattered about. There was a rusted .38 revolver nearby, and a still intact Camelback water pack. The skull was split into several pieces, and it was determined he'd placed the pistol under his chin and pulled the trigger, killing him instantly. A wallet was found on the remains, inside of a fanny pack. Inside, was the missing man's photo identification along with a handwritten note, which read "YOU BASTARDS! YOU FOUND ME!" :lol8: We all laughed about that note. Even in his death, there was a measure of humor involved.

I ended up being given GPS coordinates by the Sheriff's SAR where they located his body. I called the guy's Mother and told her he'd been found and she was interested in getting the GPS coords. to they could go visit the site. I told her that it was a 12 mile hike into the campsite from the nearest road, but she didn't care. She said the family would hike in to spend some time there where he had died.

This guy knew the backcountry better than most of us know the back of our hands. He picked the most remote location he knew of to take his own life, in hopes that he'd never be found. I'm sure this guy who walked off into Canyonlands will be found one day. Time will tell.

Iceaxe
06-26-2008, 09:34 AM
The idea of getting so lost that there is doubt, and the body is never found, appeals to me.

I actually know two people who have done this..... no body makes a huge mess for the family left behind because of legal reasons and it adds an emotion burden to the family because they are unable to find closer.... they are never positive the person is actually dead and keep hoping.....

:cool2:

RedMan
06-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Yeah thats what Everett Ruess did. I still look for him in crevices.

Iceaxe
06-26-2008, 12:07 PM
Yeah thats what Everett Ruess did. I still look for him in crevices.

Look on Yahoo... he hangs out there some....

Everett Ruess
http://profiles.yahoo.com/ruess_everett

Same with Bessie Hyde
http://profiles.yahoo.com/bessiehyde

:lol8:

RedMan
06-26-2008, 01:01 PM
I suspect those two are in the same crack beneath Lake Powell.

Deathcricket
06-26-2008, 01:09 PM
I found the article pretty interesting but i have to ask. Is 18 people committing suicide a big deal? How many people actually commit suicide, i dont have the numbers, but is that even .005%?

When I lived in San Diego there would always be some yahoo threatening to jump off a bridge somewhere in the county. They would shut down traffic for hours while the police tried to talk them out of it. At first it was a tragedy and shocked me, but after it happened and made me late for like the 2nd time in a week, it got pretty old. If you're going to seek help, go to a counseling center, if you're going to jump get on with it already so I can go home and eat dinner.

At least these people had the decency too not make a big stink and be somewhere they love for the last moments of their life. If you're going to kill yourself that's the way to do it. Maybe not driving off a cliff though, too hard getting the car out and expensive. But if I felt the need to off myself, this is definately appealing.


"you bastards, you found me", that is classic!




:five:

Teleken
06-26-2008, 01:17 PM
Just yesterday a guy drove over a cliff on Pikes Peak (yea there is a road to the top). It was reported that his girlfriend had just broken up with him. He lived and SAR took 6 hours to get him back up to the helo evac. Same thing happened in 1993 but that guy didn't live.

Iceaxe
06-26-2008, 01:42 PM
Just yesterday a guy drove over a cliff on Pikes Peak (yea there is a road to the top).

Been there, Done that, at speed. :haha:

Not only is there a road.... but they race up the road once a year.... It's a really famous hillclimb.

:popcorn:

JP
06-26-2008, 02:02 PM
Is 18 people committing suicide a big deal?
Absolutely not. It's just the media trying t find something to report. Doom and gloom, death and destruction. Apparently it's what sells. :mrgreen:

But suicide is just one of the most selfish acts one could commit. Nobody likes a quitter :lol8: The only way I could see it being the only way out is when you're terminal. You know you're going to die and it's not going to be pretty and painless. You take this way out to keep your family from going through your deterioration stages. But, the one where the girlfriend just broke up with ya, give me a $%*king break! :roll:

Iceaxe
06-26-2008, 02:15 PM
Nobody likes a quitter :lol8:

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

RedMan
06-26-2008, 02:56 PM
I was sitting in Cathedral square in Christchurch NZ looking up at the tower atop Christchurch Cathedral and I see all the openings have chain link across them.

When I ask a local guy what thats about he says people kept going up there and committing suicide by splat.

Then he proceeds to tell me that Christchurch has this horribly high suicide rate and all of the tall buildings have similar restrictions.

I look across the square and see a woman in a bikini shadow boxing. She had no business wearing a bikini so I ask the guy what that was about. He said she belonged to a local cult that makes members go into the square and do humiliating things.

About that time a woMAN shows up and starts harassing a doomsday preacher. The preacher has a billboard that says "a major airline crash will kill hundreds next week" Which coincided with my flight home. The guy I'm talking to is watching the woMAN intently and explains that he/she was arrested last week for punching the same doomsday preacher.

At this point four Mormon missionaries show up and start trying to talk to the bikini shadow boxer. The guy sitting with us groans and says "Here we go, one cult trying to convert the other".

You can't make this shit up.

We had so much fun we came back two more days. Nobody jumped but we found out that the unemployment rate was staggering and my new buddy was unemployed. Just shows you don't need money to have fun.

I need to go back. Loved that place.

Deathcricket
06-26-2008, 03:14 PM
I was sitting in Cathedral square in Christchurch NZ looking up at the tower atop Christchurch Cathedral and I see all the openings have chain link across them.

When I ask a local guy what thats about he says people kept going up there and committing suicide by splat.

Then he proceeds to tell me that Christchurch has this horribly high suicide rate and all of the tall buildings have similar restrictions.

I look across the square and see a woman in a bikini shadow boxing. She had no business wearing a bikini so I ask the guy what that was about. He said she belonged to a local cult that makes members go into the square and do humiliating things.

About that time a woMAN shows up and starts harassing a doomsday preacher. The preacher has a billboard that says "a major airline crash will kill hundreds next week" Which coincided with my flight home. The guy I'm talking to is watching the woMAN intently and explains that he/she was arrested last week for punching the same doomsday preacher.

At this point four Mormon missionaries show up and start trying to talk to the bikini shadow boxer. The guy sitting with us groans and says "Here we go, one cult trying to convert the other".

You can't make this shit up.

We had so much fun we came back two more days. Nobody jumped but we found out that the unemployment rate was staggering and my new buddy was unemployed. Just shows you don't need money to have fun.

I need to go back. Loved that place.

:eek2:

Talk about a freakshow circus!

bbennett
06-26-2008, 03:17 PM
I was sitting in Cathedral square in Christchurch NZ looking up at the tower atop Christchurch Cathedral and I see all the openings have chain link across them.

When I ask a local guy what thats about he says people kept going up there and committing suicide by splat.

Then he proceeds to tell me that Christchurch has this horribly high suicide rate and all of the tall buildings have similar restrictions.

I look across the square and see a woman in a bikini shadow boxing. She had no business wearing a bikini so I ask the guy what that was about. He said she belonged to a local cult that makes members go into the square and do humiliating things.

About that time a woMAN shows up and starts harassing a doomsday preacher. The preacher has a billboard that says "a major airline crash will kill hundreds next week" Which coincided with my flight home. The guy I'm talking to is watching the woMAN intently and explains that he/she was arrested last week for punching the same doomsday preacher.

At this point four Mormon missionaries show up and start trying to talk to the bikini shadow boxer. The guy sitting with us groans and says "Here we go, one cult trying to convert the other".

You can't make this shit up.

We had so much fun we came back two more days. Nobody jumped but we found out that the unemployment rate was staggering and my new buddy was unemployed. Just shows you don't need money to have fun.

I need to go back. Loved that place.

That's hilarious! :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

I love New Zealand.

sparker1
06-26-2008, 04:10 PM
I was sitting in Cathedral square in Christchurch NZ looking up at the tower atop Christchurch Cathedral and I see all the openings have chain link across them.

When I ask a local guy what thats about he says people kept going up there and committing suicide by splat.

Then he proceeds to tell me that Christchurch has this horribly high suicide rate and all of the tall buildings have similar restrictions.

I look across the square and see a woman in a bikini shadow boxing. She had no business wearing a bikini so I ask the guy what that was about. He said she belonged to a local cult that makes members go into the square and do humiliating things.

About that time a woMAN shows up and starts harassing a doomsday preacher. The preacher has a billboard that says "a major airline crash will kill hundreds next week" Which coincided with my flight home. The guy I'm talking to is watching the woMAN intently and explains that he/she was arrested last week for punching the same doomsday preacher.

At this point four Mormon missionaries show up and start trying to talk to the bikini shadow boxer. The guy sitting with us groans and says "Here we go, one cult trying to convert the other".

You can't make this shit up.

We had so much fun we came back two more days. Nobody jumped but we found out that the unemployment rate was staggering and my new buddy was unemployed. Just shows you don't need money to have fun.

I need to go back. Loved that place.

Funny. I remember a wild-eyed preacher of doom from my trip to Christchurch...in 1993. Wonder if it's the same guy? or maybe his son took over the family business. How funny. :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

RedMan
06-26-2008, 04:16 PM
It really was. The second day there were two midgets playing chess on one of those giant chess sets, they were only a foot taller than the chess pieces. The third day some circus performers showed up at the same time as a band and they started fighting over something or other. I think they were trying to use the same stage area.

At any one time I'd day there were 30 people doing weird shit in that square.
Wildest thing I ever saw.

The guy said the doomsday preacher had been there everyday for 20ish years doing the same shit and the transvestite had been fighting with him for like 5 years.

sparker1
06-26-2008, 04:29 PM
It really was. The second day there were two midgets playing chess on one of those giant chess sets, they were only a foot taller than the chess pieces. The third day some circus performers showed up at the same time as a band and they started fighting over something or other. I think they were trying to use the same stage area.

At any one time I'd day there were 30 people doing weird shit in that square.
Wildest thing I ever saw.

The guy said the doomsday preacher had been there everyday for 20ish years doing the same shit and the transvestite had been fighting with him for like 5 years.

I just remembered, the guy in '93 climbed a step-ladder as his "pulpit", so he could speak down to the masses.

RedMan
06-26-2008, 05:14 PM
He scared this shit out of my girlfriend because he was ranting about the airplane crashing and we were headed out the same week he was talking about.

The guy we were talking with said he rotates his sermons. Has a few dozen, then starts over and he had seen the airplane sermon for years.

She forgot all about it when I made her jump from the Kawarau Bridge Bungy.