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mhambi
05-22-2008, 11:36 AM
I've seen this brought up once or twice here and when I saw the clips on YT I thought I'd share them here so we could all bask in the glory that is Bear Grylls. :haha:

So, what's good info and where is he waaaaaaay off base? :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bwfi0OTnO8 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IE704E99DM 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urthKeGZS-A 3



Oh, and do you recognize where he's swiming in part 2? :five:

ratagonia
05-22-2008, 01:13 PM
What is good entertainment, and what is way offffff base? - eh, your choice. Hopefully, you are not using this program for information, as it is about 0% good information.

Fry Canyon.

Tom

Jaxx
05-22-2008, 01:27 PM
I have been in some hot weather in the desert. Never have I thought that wrapping a pee soaked shirt on my mouth would be a good idea. I only watch because I like his accent...

I thought Arron Ralston was from Colorado not Utah.

I was going to guess the canyon was cameltoe or dragonfly. I figured they have water and I have never seen them. How did he get dropped off in the middle of the desert near Moab and make his way to fry canyon!!!

Iceaxe
05-22-2008, 01:33 PM
Never have I thought that wrapping a pee soaked shirt on my mouth would be a good idea.

Next time you are in the desert in 110 degree heat take a wet tee shirt and and wrap it around your head.... it will dry almost instantly... maybe 5 minutes tops.... that was the dumbest idea in the entire show. Now wrapping a cloth around your head might be a good idea.... but inserting a sickly urine smell first is dumbass.... if I was really in trouble I'd probably save the urine for drinking later, and not waste it like perfume.

:popcorn:

rockgremlin
05-22-2008, 01:45 PM
Bear Grylls: aka Smoke and Mirrors

Some friends of mine who live in Moab said that Bear and his film crew stayed at the Gonzo Inn, and returned every night after filming. I heard rumors that most of this was shot in or near Fry Canyon, nowhere near Canyonlands. :haha:

Bear's slot canyon logic is all jacked up. Here's how he put it:

Vid 1: at 3:44, 4:11, and 9:30 he says that he's gotta find a side canyon that should lead to a river, and eventually civilation.

vid 2: at 0:53 and 2:26 says that the canyon he is following runs downhill, and "there's a good chance it meets up with a river, and a route out of here."

At 7:12 the downhill-running slot canyon dead ends, and he is forced to climb out. ?????? WTF?! I've seen a fair amount of slot canyons in my day, but I've never seen one just up and dead end like that. It was clear that instead of following the slot down, he was in fact, following it up, and was forced to climb out for dramatic effect. :roll:

moab mark
05-22-2008, 01:51 PM
If anyone saw this whole program when it was telecast, when he swam the colorado? at the end there is a wind mill. The group I run around with have no idea on the colorado around the moab area where this could be? None of the scenery looks familiar either. But if it was filmed down south Fry Canyon? then who knows. But then shouldn't it of been called the blanding or monticello or even hanksville desert. if he was around moab one of us in our pollution spewing jeeps would of come by and could of picked him up. The moab desert sure looks mean. :2thumbs: Maybe he didn't know the moab diner is only a short jaunt away. I can taste a Lions Back Breakfast as I type.

moab mark
05-22-2008, 01:56 PM
Bear Grylls: aka Smoke and Mirrors
There is a video out on youtube showing him traversing through a lava field. He is acting like it is life or death. Well there happens to be a tourist close by that is filming him from another angle and you can see cars driving byon an aphalt road. So I think there is alot of smoke and mirrors with his shows.

stefan
05-22-2008, 02:09 PM
What is good entertainment, and what is way offffff base? - eh, your choice. Hopefully, you are not using this program for information, as it is about 0% good information.


well it's certainly true that it gets really hot in the deserts of southern utah when you're walking around in 110

Iceaxe
05-22-2008, 02:15 PM
The slot canyon is Fry for certain...

The only really accurate information is that it was filmed near Moab.... it goes down hill fast after that statement.

:lol8:

Scott Card
05-22-2008, 02:16 PM
I'm suprised he doesn't carry around a car door so he can roll down the window if he gets hot. :haha:

oldno7
05-22-2008, 02:38 PM
You guys are just jealous that Bear found the long, lost ,secret passage from Moab under the log jam to Fry. :topes:

DiscGo
05-22-2008, 02:56 PM
I like Bear! He is like "Jack Bauer". Of course somethings are going to be bigger and more complicated than they need to be, but he is fun to watch. I do not subscribe to his survival school, but I sure would love to have his job.

abirken
05-22-2008, 03:27 PM
This man could roll around in pig poop and I'd still lust over him..............He's the HOTTEST MAN ALIVE AND I WANT TO MAKE LOTS OF BABIES WITH HIM. Don't get me going. I LUST BEAR LIKE NO OTHER! :twisted: :naughty:

rockgremlin
05-22-2008, 04:34 PM
This man could roll around in pig poop and I'd still lust over him..............He's the HOTTEST MAN ALIVE AND I WANT TO MAKE LOTS OF BABIES WITH HIM. Don't get me going. I LUST BEAR LIKE NO OTHER! :twisted: :naughty:

Oh my word! :eek2:

stefan
05-22-2008, 05:45 PM
You guys are just jealous that Bear found the long, lost ,secret passage from Moab under the log jam to Fry.

sounds like high stakes canyoneering beta to me

DiscGo
05-22-2008, 07:44 PM
This man could roll around in pig poop and I'd still lust over him..............He's the HOTTEST MAN ALIVE AND I WANT TO MAKE LOTS OF BABIES WITH HIM. Don't get me going. I LUST BEAR LIKE NO OTHER! :twisted: :naughty:



I don't think I have ever appreciated any comment on Bogley.com as much as this one! :haha:

abirken
05-22-2008, 07:59 PM
This man could roll around in pig poop and I'd still lust over him..............He's the HOTTEST MAN ALIVE AND I WANT TO MAKE LOTS OF BABIES WITH HIM. Don't get me going. I LUST BEAR LIKE NO OTHER! :twisted: :naughty:



I don't think I have ever appreciated any comment on Bogley.com as much as this one! :haha:


I don't know what it is, but when I see him tear into rotting animal flesh for survival reasons.........I just can't describe it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, don't want to train wreck this section. But seriously, all my friends that know me outside of Bogley, all know (husband included) that I am a Bear groupie. :lol8: so my secret is out. :haha:


Oh one more thing: his accent........ :slobber: :dropmouth:

stefan
05-22-2008, 08:34 PM
I don't know what it is, but when I see him tear into rotting animal flesh for survival reasons.........I just can't describe it.

yeah ... but i was pretty disappointed when he didn't drink the dead squirrel tainted, muddy slot water.

abirken
05-22-2008, 08:38 PM
I don't know what it is, but when I see him tear into rotting animal flesh for survival reasons.........I just can't describe it.

yeah ... but i was pretty disappointed when he didn't drink the dead squirrel tainted, muddy slot water.


Are you saying my Bear isn't a REAL MAN Stefan? HAHA!!! Don't tell me this and burst my bubble. :lol8:

Sombeech
05-22-2008, 08:40 PM
This man could roll around in pig poop and I'd still lust over him

That's good to know, cuz I can't find a bathroom right now, and I think I see him.

jumar
05-23-2008, 06:37 AM
The slot canyon is Fry for certain...

The only really accurate information is that it was filmed near Moab.... it goes down hill fast after that statement.

:lol8:
I didn't recognize it when I first watched this. Guess it probably was Fry. Except the part where he climbs out....where's that?

ratagonia
05-23-2008, 09:33 PM
The slot canyon is Fry for certain...

The only really accurate information is that it was filmed near Moab.... it goes down hill fast after that statement.

:lol8:
I didn't recognize it when I first watched this. Guess it probably was Fry. Except the part where he climbs out....where's that?

The climb out of the pool with the harness under his clothes and the rope hidden in the inky shadows???

Fry Canyon

UtahAdventureGuide
05-27-2008, 01:29 PM
My favorite part is where he tries to swim under the obstacle but turns around before he gets to the other side because "it's to far". If you look closely it's only a couple feet across.

Iceaxe
05-27-2008, 01:46 PM
My favorite part is

.........when the show ended.....

:roflol:

AJ
05-27-2008, 07:39 PM
It's definitely a lot of sensationalism - has to be for a TV show. Also because it's a TV show, it has a lot of smoke and mirrors (like others pointed out), but it does have some good information. Here's what I saw.

The desert definitely is unforgiving.

The jump information is correct. You distribute the impact on the side and back of your body with a roll.

Looking for certain types of vegetation for water is correct.

Aron Ralston is from Colorado, not Utah.

Looking for shade in a canyon is a double edged sword. It is definitely cooler, and there is a possibility of water, but you are also less visible if you think a rescue party might be looking for you. Good to leave a signal up on the rim if you are going into a canyon and staying put.

Swimming under a logjam is definitely not a good idea. You have no idea on how long that jam is or if there is even a passage under it. Going over would be a much better idea. Definitely make sure you only use half your breath, so you can get back if you try something as insane as that.

The dead end was because he was going upcanyon. Like Rock says, he shot that show in several locations; Fry canyon was one of them. He stayed at the Gonzo Inn in Moab between shoots...

His chimney technique was decent; friction for upclimbing is definitely the way to go. Although, he was roped for the climb.

His fist wedge is a good technique, and can be used as he describes. Need to practice it to feel comfortable with wedges.

Peeing on the shirt will work, but as he describes; kind of gross. Shane's idea of saving it to re-hydrate is better; although that tastes horrible... (but is better than dying.)

Looking through clothes and shoes for scorpions is a good idea.

Sounds of insects likely meaning water is true.

There are several plants that are hollow, not just the trumpet flower. Those can be used as straws, as he shows.

Drinking water slowly when you are dehydrated is true.

Going high to survey the land is a good idea, but it would be good to do that in the morning or the evening to conserve water.

You can go without three weeks without food, so I'd not bother with that if I were lost. I'd concentrate on getting out.

A river does eventually mean civilization, but there could be some serious rapids before you get there.

Salmonella is definitely a risk, but since he ate the first egg raw, probably wouldn't matter if he ate the second one raw...

price1869
05-27-2008, 10:33 PM
Drinking urine is never a good idea.

-real survivalist.

jumar
05-28-2008, 06:20 AM
Drinking urine is never a good idea.

-real survivalist.
I heard somewhere recently that it dehydrates you quicker drinking urine. :ne_nau:

stefan
05-28-2008, 08:44 AM
It's definitely a lot of sensationalism - has to be for a TV show.

well, it doesn't have to, but that seems to be what america wants these days, unfortunately.



Also because it's a TV show, it has a lot of smoke and mirrors (like others pointed out),

yeah ... the way i think of these things is that most TV (just like the movies) is fiction and the actors are ... well, just acting. what's amusing is they try very hard to give the appearance that it is real, but this is no documentary on reality. it's just acting for a show.



The jump information is correct. You distribute the impact on the side and back of your body with a roll.

well, he seems to certainly do it to excess in the show, which to me seems like it would more likely result in an injury which is going to cause him to be in a worse position since he'll have a hard time moving if at all. one thing that is apparent hiking around southern utah is that there often is broken cliffs/talus slopes/etc. allowing for steep passage. seems like route finding and being creative about the route is a better skill to promote than jumping and rolling which is a last case scenario. this is IMO the bad of sensationalism. it's great for entertainment, but not what one should be promoting. the show just seems like a bunch of mixed messages to me when taken at face value, so it seems better to treat it as pure entertainment.

wait ... did i really just take this show seriously? :haha: