n00bfest June 6-8th 2008 in Zion National Park

[Sombeech]

When is it this year? I want in. Bring on the n00bf3s7.

Oh, and can you completely work around my schedule? :haha:

But seriously, I really want to make it this year. My knees are refreshed.

Is Spring a possibility, or does Fall work best?

[Iceaxe]

Time of year depends on where you want to hold the fest. Rockgremlin is the guy who usually headed up the canyon noob fests in the past. Not sure how that is going to work with his recent relocation.

Post your ideas.....

:rockon:

[Iceaxe]

And a little FYI to canyoneers..... Tom recently posted that he will not be holding any Tom Canyon Festivals this year. So if some of you want in on a fest you might need to pick up the slack and help with some planning and organization.

[CarpeyBiggs]

When is it this year? I want in. Bring on the n00bf3s7.
Is Spring a possibility, or does Fall work best?

Spring or Fall can work. March and April could both be good, as long as you don't mind nights that are still a little bit cold.

[CarpeyBiggs]

And a little FYI to canyoneers..... Tom recently posted that he will not be holding any Tom Canyon Festivals this year. So if some of you want in on a fest you might need to pick up the slack and help with some planning and organization.

Maybe the management of Climb-Utah would be interested in putting one on this year? :2thumbs:

[skianddive]

Maybe the management of Climb-Utah would be interested in putting one on this year? :2thumbs:
Maybe the management of "Dan Ransom Photography" would also be interested in putting one on this year? :2thumbs:

[trackrunner]

I'll help out, let me know.
I need to get out with other people not in my crew and learn some different skills.

[accadacca]

Nutha n00b here for the partay whenevers. . . :bandit2:

[CarpeyBiggs]

Maybe the management of "Dan Ransom Photography" would also be interested in putting one on this year? :2thumbs:

I'd rather not do it as "Dan Ransom Photography" But, I'll happily do it as "Dan." In fact, I have a couple possibly in the works. Bogleys beware though, as Shane has already eloquently explained, "my skillset isn't adequate." :nod:

On a serious note, I'll be happy to help out where I can. Perhaps a good starting point is figuring out when people want to do it.

Welcome to the forum, engaging first post. :rockon:

[Jaxx]

If my wife did allow me to go I would like to do a canyon with some natural anchor building so I could see how the pros do it.
Where should we go? I think somewhere without permits like roost/swell area. Kindof in the middle. I vote sometime in March/April mabey even may if its not too hot then.

Edit: I am also down with Dan as the trip planner/leader

[mrbrejcha]

partay whenevers. . . :bandit2:

I'd be up for a par-tay!

[mtreker]

I'm in.

[Iceaxe]

Hey Skianddive..... nice to see you on the Dark Side. :bert:

I guess this means all my friends are now officialy out of jail. That's weird, huh... :bandit2:

:lol8:

[Iceaxe]

Couple of thoughts I've been kicking around.... not saying any of them will actually happen, but then again, if there is enough interest it just might....

A Couple's Fest, this would be more upscale, rooms at a descent motel, dinner and drinks at nice restaurants, easier canyons. This would be a great time for canyoneers to drag their significant other kicking and screaming into the sport. Probably stage out of Moab or Springdale.

A Family Fest, some easier tech canyons with short raps that are kid friendly.... thinking of gearing for kids about 5 and up... could hold this several different places. Big campfire in the evening... North Wash area might make a descent base. Hold a big dinner and a DI Formal. We've done the DI formal thing before and it's a hoot.

I have a couple other ideas.... if any of this sparks an interest speak up....

:kickit:

[Jaxx]

Couples and family thing would be fun. It's also fun without kids and wife so I'm good either way.

[Wasatch]

I would also like to join the fun. Would suggest the Swell, North Wash, Robber's Roost, area's if done in March/April timeframe. Maybe even the Cedar Mesa area. If you need help in planning let me know.

[nelsonccc]

And a little FYI to canyoneers..... Tom recently posted that he will not be holding any Tom Canyon Festivals this year. So if some of you want in on a fest you might need to pick up the slack and help with some planning and organization.

What about another UUtah Zion trip? Maybe some canyon with a little more meat? I'm willing to help out and plan as needed since it's my neck of the woods. I'm thinking May, 3-4 day's over the weekend. I wouldn't mind getting back into Kolob or Imlay. Maybe ,boundary, or if we end up with a newer crowd i'm game for some 'easier' canyons.

[CarpeyBiggs]

What about another UUtah Zion trip? Maybe some canyon with a little more meat? I'm willing to help out and plan as needed since it's my neck of the woods. I'm thinking May, 3-4 day's over the weekend. I wouldn't mind getting back into Kolob or Imlay. Maybe ,boundary, or if we end up with a newer crowd i'm game for some 'easier' canyons.

Sounds kinda fun, but I see May in Zion being a little dicey this year. Too early to tell, but it might be a short season in Z, with all this snow.

Chris, you sure you can handle me again? :roflol: I'm not convinced I can handle you...

BTW, you going to put on a Mexico fest or what? That's what I really want in on.

[Iceaxe]

What about another UUtah Zion trip?

Dude.... I still have nightmares concerning the last Zion trip. :lol8:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/dsc_0055__medium_.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2546__medium_.jpg

[skianddive]

Welcome to the forum, engaging first post. :rockon:
Thanks, and Al says it best (below) regarding my post.....



Hey Skianddive..... nice to see you on the Dark Side. :bert:
Thanks, IceDude, a real pleasure. Now that the Dark Side has decided to forego its Utah-centricity, I think this Forum will be a great alternative for those with outdoors interests.



I guess this means all my friends are now officialy out of jail. That's weird, huh... :bandit2:
Yup, just got out on Monday for that trumped up libel charge from my posts on the ACA Forum. :mrgreen:

I sure hope you guys here are more forgiving.

[Felicia]

We will do our best to join in! :nod:

:popcorn:

[Alex]

I am in with wives or without. But if without wives and Springdale.....can I watch? :naughty:

[nat]

I guess this means all my friends are now officialy out of jail. That's weird, huh... :bandit2:
Yup, just got out on Monday for that trumped up libel charge from my posts on the ACA Forum. :mrgreen:

I sure hope you guys here are more forgiving.

What did you get busted for over on ACA forums? Although we are more forgiving here, I should warn you that pictures here without helmets may result in citations if the helmet cops catch you. (I've received at least 3 tickets :haha: )

By the way, I like your avatar :2thumbs:

[nelsonccc]

What about another UUtah Zion trip? Maybe some canyon with a little more meat? I'm willing to help out and plan as needed since it's my neck of the woods. I'm thinking May, 3-4 day's over the weekend. I wouldn't mind getting back into Kolob or Imlay. Maybe ,boundary, or if we end up with a newer crowd i'm game for some 'easier' canyons.

Sounds kinda fun, but I see May in Zion being a little dicey this year. Too early to tell, but it might be a short season in Z, with all this snow.

Chris, you sure you can handle me again? :roflol: I'm not convinced I can handle you...

BTW, you going to put on a Mexico fest or what? That's what I really want in on.

You can definately handle me, it's whether or not i can handle you. You get the good with the bad. May, June, or July, hell I don't care, lets just do it.

Regarding Mexico, we were starting to look into it, but I think we are going to do it every other year. We intially only had about 4 peope who wanted to go. I'm game to go and I know Cody is game to go again. We'd need about another 5-6 to really have a good group. I'm willing to go again this year if we can round up enough people, but i feel since i was there last year that the canyons are an every other year experience. Cody and I will organize if their are people interested.

[nelsonccc]

What about another UUtah Zion trip?

Dude.... I still have nightmares concerning the last Zion trip. :lol8:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2546__medium_.jpg

I don't know whose ass that it is but damn it's pretty nice. Nice truck too. We should require all UUtah canyon fest attendees to wear a grey banana hammock.

[shaggy125]

I might be able to help with a noob fest if it's in March and works with my schedule. I'm off the 6th - 12th.

[Cirrus2000]

If anything happened on the weekend of April 5/6 I might be able to stop by for a little bit, especially on Saturday the 5th. Maybe - depends where, and what I'm doing all week prior to that... Then I have to be at LAS by about 4:00 on the afternoon of the 6th.

[shagster]

I am in for anything. I would like to get out as soon as possible, this cold weather is killing me... :2thumbs:

[fourtycal]

I'm always in. I doubt my wife will go, she doesn't like the swingers scene but i'll keep trying. :haha:

[CarpeyBiggs]

Let's bring this one back up to the top.

I'm available any weekend through March.

[Iceaxe]

Moab - March 15 & 16???

[Reedus]

+1 for any weekend in March.

P.S - Ice, what is the hangup with Moab canyons? Are they really that good and worth it? Seems there are a lot more bang for the buck canyons in North Wash and the Roost :ne_nau:

[DaveOU812]

I'm in for the N00B Fest. It would be my second so I'm not a virgin but still a n00b. Name the time and place and I'll see about work.

[shagster]

Moab - March 15 & 16???

That weekend sounds good to me, I have that Friday off anyway. What's the plan Moab?

[Iceaxe]

Ice, what is the hangup with Moab canyons? Are they really that good and worth it?

Moab is the most asked for addition to my website.

I like the Moab Canyons, YMMV.

I like the night life in Moab.

There are good resturants in Moab.

Rooms are really cheap in Moab right now so I don't have to pack anything or sleep in the dirt, that makes the trip easy.

I have some reliable Moab beta that I'd like to try out.

I haven't spent a major amount of time in Moab so it's newer to me.

Rockgremlin used to live down that way and I liked doing canyons with him. (he has since moved).

It's only 3.25 hours from my house


Seems there are a lot more bang for the buck canyons in North Wash and the Roost

As for the bang for buck.... Yes and No... depends on who you are and what you have done.

I'm kinda burned out on North Wash and the Roost.

I've done most of the good stuff in North Wash and Roost. Still a lot to do in the Roost but most of what I have left involves some type of major riff-raff.

I'm not a big fan of repeating most routes.

yada... yada....

As you can see.... my current interest in Moab is mostly personal and/or selfish. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :haha:

:rockon:

[CarpeyBiggs]

Basically, everything about moab that has nothing to do with canyons... :haha: Just playin' Shane. Different strokes.

BTW, hotel rates are up again. Next week is the half marathon, and they will no longer be as cheap as before. I'd say like $60 a night. In winter, it is $35. YMMV.

[Iceaxe]

A lot to that.... at least in winter months with short daylight hours.... I'm not really a big fan of sitting around the campfire when it gets dark and waiting 6 hours until I get tired and go to bed... Heck, I have places to go, people to see, things to do.

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/01/16/corey160108.jpg

[Iceaxe]

And the number one reason to go to Moab.....

.....Rachael :slobber:

[mrbrejcha]

Moab - March 15 & 16???

I'm in. :2thumbs:

[AJ]

I might be able to join the Moab fun. Would be great to meet the Bogley-dites. ;) Haven't done a lot in Moab area, so would be cool to see it with the guys in the know...

I'll be out camping in the dirt though; with a fire for whoever wants to join me...


Later,
A.J.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Note to noobs... Camping with AJ is good. Free beer!

[Jaxx]

Crud. Can't go that weekend. It's my daughters birthday. Post lotso pics when you get back!

[RedRoxx]

Met a few of you guys at the Black Hole deal. I too am available that weekend, would be a long drive back for me on Mon tho--- it's at the end of a 10 day vacation for me. Can't decide between Utah and Death Valley---
Any more info on where and what canyons in Moab area???

[rockgremlin]

I'm totally jealous. I won't be able to make it this time round.

I am taking a week off in early September to knock off a bunch of canyons in Zion or possibly Cedar Mesa...I want you fools to join me.

[moab mark]

I think the 15th and 16th is the first weekend of the jeep safari. i doubt there will be any rooms available?
Mark

[Iceaxe]

I think the 15th and 16th is the first weekend of the jeep safari.

Just checked..... and it is.... thanks for the heads up.

So, Anyone else want to toss out some options? other dates? or other locations?

Weekend of March 1&2 is the AutoRama (hot rod show) and March 8&9 is my daughters birthday so those are out for me.

:popcorn:

[moab mark]

If you haven't ever been to moab during the car show you should go. It is amazing to see all the cars and activities going on in town. Plus most of the people are there for the car show and not out playing in the rocks. So you get the best of both worlds. Entertainment in town and not to many people out playing. Stay away during the safari, that has just gotten out of control. To many kids for spring break etc. But to get rooms for car show have to reserve a year in advance.
Mark

[Iceaxe]

If you haven't ever been to moab during the car show you should go. It is amazing to see all the cars

Yeah... they always schedule it the same weekend as the Sprint Car opener in SLC..... damn them :frustrated:

http://www.rmrracing.com/2007/schedule/pop-up/class_sprint.jpg

[moab mark]

I realize most peoples jobs are diffucult to play during the week but what about a tuesday wednesday? Or two other days. Not nearly as crowded in town during the week.
Mark

[mrbrejcha]

I think the 15th and 16th is the first weekend of the jeep safari.

Just checked..... and it is.... thanks for the heads up.

So, Anyone else want to toss out some options? other dates? or other locations?


:popcorn:

There is always some festival, safari or event in Moab. I say we go anyway. :2thumbs:

I rember once I was climbing the Tombstone in Kane Springs during the jeep safari one year, they totally screwed up my chi with the loud, echoing exhaust!

[mtnmax]

I am new to this forum and canyoneering already heading out to Utah the last week of March plan is to visit capital reef and maybe try a few canyons in Robbers Roost. I maybe interested in this gathering if it happens to take place during that period.

[alusul]

Any objections/problems/monster trucks to stop us on the last weekend of march?

[shaggy125]

There is always some festival, safari or event in Moab. I say we go anyway. :2thumbs:

The safari is pretty nuts, it will be hard to get a campsite and/or hotel room. Let alone a seat at a resturant. I am working the weekend of the 15th so no Shaggy for ya'all.

[Alex]

Should we start a roster like we did last time?

I am in whatever weekend everyone decides on.

[Jaxx]

Any objections/problems/monster trucks to stop us on the last weekend of march?

That is Easter weekend I think.

I am in for the trip now that we can't go on 15 & 16, pending approval from my wife...

[Iceaxe]

I'm thinking same weekend but different destination?

Maybe North Wash?

Yeah I know..... I'll have to rough it. :haha:

:cool2:

[Alex]

... I'll have to rough it. :haha:

:cool2:

You mean the hotel room will have a regular TV and not cable? I feel for you man......wanna split a room again? :roflol:

[Jaxx]

I'm thinking same weekend but different destination?

crud, I'm out again.

[Iceaxe]

Where do we have to hold this shindig to get Tanya to come???

[Alex]

Zion I suppose, so what you are saying you want to share a room with Tanya and I? Dude, you are a perv!

[Jaxx]

Will it still be a little cold in April for the swell. I think it will be, I also think that we should go to GSENM because I have been wanting to do some slots there for a long time.

I vote GSENM in April, who's with me!

diclaimer: I am biased because I can't go in March.

[mtreker]

I'm down in North wash area march 7-9 and Las Vegas April 17-22. other then that I'm up for anywhere.

[ratagonia]

I do the Staircase too! I don't even know where Moab and .. is it the Swell is. :mrgreen:

North Wash is sort of close to here? I do love the Lake Powell area if that is where it is?

4 to 4-1/2 hours from Orderville to the Leper Colony, so, not so close.

Tom

[tanya]

I do the Staircase too! I don't even know where Moab and .. is it the Swell is. :mrgreen:

North Wash is sort of close to here? I do love the Lake Powell area if that is where it is?

4 to 4-1/2 hours from Orderville to the Leper Colony, so, not so close.

Tom

Dang! I thought it was at Lake Powell by Page? how far is Moab and the Swell and other canyoneering favorite places?


Nice map Tom... That sort of answers my question
http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/


Home of the skinnies!?!?!? How would we get Sombeech through something like this!





http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/utah/lep.jpg

[stefan]

Home of the skinnies!?!?!? How would we get Sombeech through something like this!


with a lot of work ... you climb up to wherever you fit

for some of us in shenanigans that means 50-60 feet above the floor of the canyon

[Sombeech]

Home of the skinnies!?!?!? How would we get Sombeech through something like this!




It's a lot easier now.

[ratagonia]

Home of the skinnies!?!?!? How would we get Sombeech through something like this!




It's a lot easier now.

Aye, matey. And those bigger than your former self have been "through":

"When Tom took me "through" Leprechaun this weekend, he assured me I was just the second largest person to do it. And while Ryan seems to have a couple inches in height on me, your numbers would seem to indicate that my superior beer belly and greater heft would make me larger in the one dimension that seems to matter in this shamefully cruel, discriminatory, micro slot.

"Yes, Tom Jones, weighing in at a trim 180, known as "he of little weight, sense, or mercy," led the way. Paul Schmidt, a more reasonable 190 pounds, had his moments in his trip through his first tight slot. And me? Well, let's just say I brought our average group weight up to 210. And I did go through some of the wider spots. The rest of the grim ordeal one could think of me more as the high altitude reconnaissance unit. "

http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0503lep/index2.htm

Tom

[utidcapaco]

Tom, which fork was this (http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0503lep/index2.htm)?

[tanya]

'Beech is a good sized boy ---- I think he is a trim 210 plus right now... very tall! He will have to climb really high. This might be fun to watch. :popcorn: :five: He makes me feel like a midget!


There is a photo somewhere of me standing next to him ... but I can't find it. I am 5'5 --- but I guess most of you know those 2 guys. :haha: I was amazed how tall he and Scott are.

[stefan]

Tom, which fork was this (http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0503lep/index2.htm)?

that there, brent, is the middle fork of leprechaun canyon, aka shimrock

[utidcapaco]

Thanks Stefan! Never having been in other than the right fork, I wasn't sure if it was the "Sham" or the "Shim" version. Hope you're doing well!
:2thumbs:

[stefan]

Thanks Stefan! Never having been in other than the right fork, I wasn't sure if it was the "Sham" or the "Shim" version. Hope you're doing well!


shim's the real deal, a fantastic adventure, hope you get into it soon. i'm doin' pretty well, hope you are too

[Sombeech]

'Beech is a good sized boy ---- I think he is a trim 210 plus right now... very tall!


195 actually.

[Jaxx]

OK. We need a leader to just decide where we are going and when. Who is going to step up? Shane, Dan, who?

[AJ]

Just pick a place and time, and I'll try to make it. As of right now;
Could do weekend of 3/15 or 3/28. Out the rest of March and April...

Dan, glad you are just camping with me for the beer and not scintillating conversation or such.... ;)

Later,
A.J.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Just pick a place and time, and I'll try to make it. As of right now;
Could do weekend of 3/15 or 3/28. Out the rest of March and April...

Dan, glad you are just camping with me for the beer and not scintillating conversation or such.... ;)

Later,
A.J.
Well, we all know I don't drink, so take consolation...

[stefan]

Dan, glad you are just camping with me for the beer and not scintillating conversation or such.... ;)

Later,
A.J.
Well, we all know I don't drink, so take consolation...

perhaps a good time for the peach brandy?

[Sombeech]

So, I may be down in St George over the 15th, even though this may not be the noobfest. But is anybody doing any canyons anyways?

[stefan]

So, I may be down in St George over the 15th, even though this may not be the noobfest. But is anybody doing any canyons anyways?

it usually takes about 50-75 posts to determine that

[Alex]

LOL stefan, are we there yet?

[stefan]

LOL stefan, are we there yet?

well, shit, i didn't notice y'all are up to 7 pages! at fifteen posts a page ...

[abirken]

Ok someone explain the Noob Fest.........is it just a get together in a canyon somewhere for a camp/party/hike kind of thing? I'll keep watching this post b/c I've been needing a reason to escape to the desert. This snow and cold, it's getting to me.

[abirken]

Ok someone explain the Noob Fest.........is it just a get together in a canyon somewhere for a camp/party/hike kind of thing? I'll keep watching this post b/c I've been needing a reason to escape to the desert. This snow and cold, it's getting to me.


It's where we go to watch the Bogley boys get wild and do R-rated things for us. :popcorn: I don't think canyons are required... just beer and a party attitude.....

There is also the same sort of get-together at the ACA Canyoneering Thing in Zion this month: March 27th to 30th.


Thanks for the info. Sounds like a lot of fun!! I'll keep my eye on the board for a final decision about when and where. So in other words, it sounds like a big desert party. :) I'm down for that too!! A canyon here or there would nice too. :nod:

[Iceaxe]

Bogley Fest's are just a bunch of folks getting together, doing canyons and camping. We did the Black Hole last summer and invited anyone who wanted to go... including noob's with no experience, which is where the noobfest tag came from.... it was a popular event and a lot of novice were introduced to canyoneering by more experienced mentors. The year before last we held a noobfest in Cedar Mesa and did Cheesebox and North Wash canyons. Rockgremlin is/was the force behind the noobfests.

The Bogley group has also held other fests where someone semi-organizes a get-to-gather and puts out a general invite in this forum (we had a couple big gigs in Moab last year and a nice one in Zion). The Bogley invite usually states a few rules like what type of Experience level is expected and such. The Bogley events have always been free to anyone and are really just friends getting together with friends. Anyone is welcome to put together a fest and use the Bogley forum to organize it.

There are also several other organizations who put together different get-to-gathers under different names and with different rules. Tanya mentioned the ACA, which put's on what they call a Rendezvous. The ACA charges a fee ($65 plus lodging last I heard, and I believe requires membership). The ACA events are much larger (over 100 last event?) and a lot more structured then a Bogley event.

Anyhoo.... that's the general drift....

Black Hole Noob-fest
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/130-3007_img__medium_.jpg

More pics from the Black Hole Trip.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7268

:popcorn:

[UtahAdventureGuide]

I've had enough of this cold weather. Just tell me where and when and I'm willing to lead a couple canyons.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Well well, Mr. Raver. Welcome to the party. You sure you can lead canyons outside of Zion? :lol8:

[tanya]

I've had enough of this cold weather. Just tell me where and when and I'm willing to lead a couple canyons.


Do we get to know who you are before we follow? :mrgreen:

[CarpeyBiggs]

His name is Chris, pretty talented guy.

[Iceaxe]

Anther one swallows the blue pill and sips from the vat of Kool-aid. :lol8:

Welcome... :2thumbs:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/PrestohcysP/KoolAidMan_Fullpic_2.gif

[abirken]

Bogley Fest's are just a bunch of folks getting together, doing canyons and camping. We did the Black Hole last summer and invited anyone who wanted to go... including noob's with no experience, which is where the noobfest tag came from.... it was a popular event and a lot of novice were introduced to canyoneering by more experienced mentors. The year before last we held a noobfest in Cedar Mesa and did Cheesebox and North Wash canyons. Rockgremlin is/was the force behind the noobfests.

The Bogley group has also held other fests where someone semi-organizes a get-to-gather and puts out a general invite in this forum (we had a couple big gigs in Moab last year and a nice one in Zion). The Bogley invite usually states a few rules like what type of Experience level is expected and such. The Bogley events have always been free to anyone and are really just friends getting together with friends. Anyone is welcome to put together a fest and use the Bogley forum to organize it.

There are also several other organizations who put together different get-to-gathers under different names and with different rules. Tanya mentioned the ACA, which put's on what they call a Rendezvous. The ACA charges a fee ($65 plus lodging last I heard, and I believe requires membership). The ACA events are much larger (over 100 last event?) and a lot more structured then a Bogley event.

Anyhoo.... that's the general drift....

Black Hole Noob-fest
http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/130-3007_img__medium_.jpg

More pics from the Black Hole Trip.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7268

:popcorn:


SIGN ME UP!! This sounds like alot of fun!! And the Black Hole pics are freakin' awesome. Because I have never organized or been on anything like this before, I'll wait to see what everyone comes up with and hopefully be able to hook up for a get together.

[Iceaxe]

I split AJ's North Wash Invitation off into it's own thread so folks will not have to wade through 8 pages to find the meat.

North Wash Invite
http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10692

Nice job AJ. :nod:

[greyhair biker]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing but Fourtycal has been trying to get me into it for years....and Im nearly there :haha:

[tanya]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing but Fourtycal has been trying to get me into it for years....and Im nearly there :haha:


If I go to the Bogley Canyonfest then I expect you and 'Beech both to be there! :five:

[greyhair biker]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing but Fourtycal has been trying to get me into it for years....and Im nearly there :haha:


If I go to the Bogley Canyonfest then I expect you and 'Beech both to be there! :five:
If'n I'm able to get the time - whenever it is - yeah, I can be there :2thumbs:

[COUNTRYBOY]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing ...

I am in your league. I have decieded that tihis is the year to try. I am getting gear together starting this week. I can only afford to get it piece by piece over the next two months though.

[tanya]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing ...

I am in your league. I have decieded that tihis is the year to try. I am getting gear together starting this week. I can only afford to get it piece by piece over the next two months though.


We need our fearless leader Acca there too!

[accadacca]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing ...

I am in your league. I have decieded that tihis is the year to try. I am getting gear together starting this week. I can only afford to get it piece by piece over the next two months though.


We need our fearless leader Acca there too!
Well first of all we need a date. :mrgreen:

[abirken]

One of these days...I'd love to get into this more. Yeah, I'm a noobie...to this style of hiking/climbing ...

I am in your league. I have decieded that tihis is the year to try. I am getting gear together starting this week. I can only afford to get it piece by piece over the next two months though.


We need our fearless leader Acca there too!
Well first of all we need a date. :mrgreen:


ABIRKEN aka ALISON<---------------patiently watches post for a date.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Since this thread is still going... Not sure if anyone on here really cares, but I won't be able to help with this until the fall now. My free time is booked until I leave for the great white north. March was the time, but it kinda slinked by in a hurry.

I believe AJ has a n00bfest in April, but from what I understand, it is already booked full. So I'm not sure who is still standing that can help put this together. Looks like Ice and Rock maybe? (again?) I was hoping we could get something together sooner. Maybe in the fall... :2thumbs:

[Alex]

Guilty as charged.

Wait until we meet at Noobfest! :haha:

Back to the date, anyone picked one yet?

[Alex]

How about mid April?

[Iceaxe]

How about mid April?

My April calendar is booked...

[Alex]

Second 1/2 of may is booked for me too :frustrated:

[Iceaxe]

Second 1/2 of may is booked for me too :frustrated:

Sorry.... We'll remember to talk about ya while sitting in the hot tub mixing margarita's and chatting about the great canyon we just did.

:haha:

[abirken]

This is what I have in mind for Noobfest.........a really good, long canyon with some fun downclimbs, preferably with a good leader since some of us are NEW.......then chill out with some beers to talk about what a great day we had. Deal? I am open mid-may on..........

[rockgremlin]

This is what I have in mind for Noobfest.........a really good, long canyon with some fun downclimbs, preferably with a good leader since some of us are NEW.......then chill out with some beers to talk about what a great day we had. Deal? I am open mid-may on..........


Sounds like Maidenwater is right up your alley. Long canyon, lots and lots of short and interesting downclimbs. Some could be considered rappels depending on your skill level.

[Alex]

So which weekend in May? The choices are:

1st weekend (May 3rd

or

2nd weekend (May 10th)

:ne_nau:

[Iceaxe]

a really good, long canyon with some fun downclimbs, preferably with a good leader since some of us are NEW.......then chill out with some beers to talk about what a great day we had. Deal? I am open mid-may on..........

Sweet.... anther convert of the Bogley method of canyoneering. :2thumbs:

:popcorn:

[abirken]

I thought Ice always did the Noobfest here? I might be wrong though since I have never gone. :popcorn: But it never hurts to have more of them :2thumbs:

Allison are you signed up for A.J. April Newbie fest? You are both in Colorado right?

No I didn't realize A.J. was doing one here? Yuppers I am in Colorado. Right off of I-70. This month is filled to max for me. Preparing for big recital and weekends spent on costume/practicing.

[abirken]

Wierd. Somehow my post disappeared regarding dates that work for me. Basically anytime Mid-May on..........

[abirken]

Second 1/2 of may is booked for me too :frustrated:

Well I guess trying to arrange around 50 bazillion schedules is just all kindsa complicated now isn't it? Hmmmmmmm....... :ne_nau: We gotta get this figured out. I mentioned before that I can do the weekend of Mothers day though, but I can only do that Fri/Sat, be home Saturday night to have mothers day brunch with my family on Sunday. So just an option...................

[skianddive]

Wierd. Somehow my post disappeared regarding dates that work for me.
Your schedule didn't disappear. I believe it was moved to the [b]Rubbish Bin

[abirken]

Yup found it. Thanks!

[Alex]

It's better to just set a date and see who shows up. Can't accommodate everyone really.

[Iceaxe]

I don't know who split this thread but they need to do a better job.... this was important to the noobfest I believe.....


OK, here's the deal.... you guys get abirken and ~tanya to agree on a date and place and I'll set it up.... no way in hell would I miss out on seeing those two sweeties together. :naughty:

Maybe a mid May date in Moab or North Wash????



So you only need two people to agree on a date the way I see it....

FWIW: May 3, May 10 and May 24 weekends are out if you want me to set the deal up.

:popcorn:

[abirken]

ALISON TO TANYA........ALISON TO TANYA.......you out there? What do you think?

[Iceaxe]

Sorry I tossed the girls under the bus.... I was just attempting to get this rolling..

I've already compared dates with Alex and we do not have the same dates free in May. So...

:ne_nau:

[Alex]

Shane, just set the date and see what people confirm. That's how we got the ball rolling last time. You did a great job organizing stuff last time, so take this under your wing and fly with it :2thumbs:

[abirken]

Shane, just set the date and see what people confirm. That's how we got the ball rolling last time. You did a great job organizing stuff last time, so take this under your wing and fly with it :2thumbs:

Agreed with Alex! I'd love to make it to meet all of you guys......Tanya included (cuz I think she's a cool chic) even though I don't know any of you all whatsoever....... I think you guys have a good head on your shoulders about outdoor play in Utah and most likely I will learn alot from this group. I have been wanting to find a group to meet up with since I have no friends here interested in Canyoneering (my friends are all too girly and afraid to get dirty) so Bogley seems to be a nice fit for me. You guys set a date, I'll be there if I can and if not......there's always next time. Until then, hoping to meet EVERYONE! :mrgreen:

[Iceaxe]

Shane, just set the date and see what people confirm. That's how we got the ball rolling last time. You did a great job organizing stuff last time, so take this under your wing and fly with it :2thumbs:

You guys don't understand..... I hate organizing this stuff.

:lol8:

[Alex]

But you are so natural now! :hail2thechief:

[abirken]

Shane, just set the date and see what people confirm. That's how we got the ball rolling last time. You did a great job organizing stuff last time, so take this under your wing and fly with it :2thumbs:

You guys don't understand..... I hate organizing this stuff.

:lol8:


Looks like you have no choice and you are being nominated.......... :lol8:

[Felicia]

Shane:

I'll help you get started. You have no dates in April avaliable and you only have the weekend of May 17.

Look's like: MAY 17 & 18 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Now where to go: ??????????

:popcorn:

[Jaxx]

I vote we do High Spur on Saturday 5/17 and Larry on Sunday 5/18. Me and my wife may be able to join :2thumbs:

Edit: June 7th weekend would also work out for me.

[accadacca]

Doesn't matter the date. . .somebody wont be able to go. Beech and I deal with this often. We end up throwing out a date and then just going. If peeps can or cant go, so be it. :ne_nau: Even more complicated on an effin message board.

Pretty simple, pencil a date. You know there is a calendar on this site in the top nav. Nobody ever uses it though, it is blank. :roll: :haha:

[Felicia]

The Calendar is Cool! :2thumbs:

Maybe we should start using it. :nod:

[Alex]

I vote we do High Spur on Saturday 5/17 and Larry on Sunday 5/18. Me and my wife may be able to join :2thumbs:

Edit: June 7th weekend would also work out for me.

June 7th looks like a good date to me :nod: Plus I finally get to meet Jaxx!

[abirken]

June the 7th looks like a rocking date! I've marked my calendar. I'll follow everyone elses lead, but what canyon's do you guys think we will do?

[Sombeech]

june 7th may work for me as well.

[accadacca]

I ain't skeered. :2thumbs:

[rockgremlin]

hmmmmm....after taking a second look at the calendar, I might be able to pull off an appearance for June 7th. :2thumbs:

[Alex]

I guess the 7th is the magic number. Let's get a new thread going with the list of attendees so new people don't dig through 9 pages to find the date.

[Jaxx]

OK I am making it officially for June 7th. Don't try to change it. I added it to the calendar.

Someone mentioned that Capital Reef would be a fun place to try!?!?!?

[tanya]

I guess the 7th is the magic number. Let's get a new thread going with the list of attendees so new people don't dig through 9 pages to find the date.


I put the date Alison wants to hold this at the top of the thread. Carry on :2thumbs: :popcorn:

Others posted they want to come but I will start the list with those of you that posted they can go on June 7th...

1. Alex
2. Justin - 'Beech
3. Scott - Acca
4. Justin - Rock
5. Felicia & John
6. Alison
7. Jax & Mrs. Jax


Others that are interested...
Ice
Tanya
Bo
Wade
mrbrejcha
mtreker
wasatch
nelsoncc
carpy
skianddive
shagster
fortycal
reedus
Dave
AJ
Redroxx
Mark
mtnmax
alusul
Shaggy
UtahAdventureGuide
CountryBoy

.. and a few others posted in the thread but said nothing about going?

[Felicia]

We could only attend on the 7th weekend if it was held in Zion. :popcorn:

[LJ]

I can make the 7th also and looking forward to meeting everyone!


Lin

[rockgremlin]

I can make the 7th also and looking forward to meeting everyone!


Lin


Are you Zion only too, or are you down with other areas. If we do Capitol Reef area the Zionists could come too -- Capitol Reef isn't too far from Zion, no?

[Alex]

1. Alex
2. Justin - 'Beech
3. Scott - Acca
4. Justin - Rock
5. Felicia & John
6. Alison
7. Jax & Mrs. Jax
8. LJ
9. Tanya



Well now that we have all the cool people committed :cool2: :haha:

We need some leadership to step up and take the lead....

</sarcasm> </russian_humor> </smart_ass>

[rockgremlin]

We need some leadership to step up and take the lead....

</sarcasm> </russian_humor> </smart_ass>

I could lead, but I would prefer if someone else also commits. Jaxx - you've got a fair amount of experience doncha? I have no idea as to the experience level for most everyone listed. The more leadership experience the better in cases of large groups.

[SLCmntjunkie]

You can sign me up.

[Jaxx]

I don't mind "leading" but I'm not going to claim I have the experience to be in charge of peoples well being. As far as leading goes I am pretty good at organizing things. I have never built a natural anchor. That is one thing I was hoping to learn on this trip.
I am willing to teach people the little that I know. I would be comfortable going down the canyon with people following me if that is ok as a leader.

Here is a list of my canyons. All of them done in 2007. I just started canyoneering last year, pretty easy canyons:
Mainfork of BlueJohn out horseshoe canyon
Mystery
Pine Creek
Keyhole x2
Spry
Blackhole
Fry canyon
Midieval chamber
Teirdrop

[rockgremlin]

Ya, we'll need another experienced guy to sign up to assist in the leading...unless Tanya and/or Felicia is a sure thing.


Alex could probably assist to some extent too.

[Alex]

I know how to coil and carry the rope :2thumbs:

We haven't heard from marc yet....he'd be an excellent leader. Also kyrell?

[SLCmntjunkie]

I'm kind of in the same boat as Jaxx, I don't mind "leading" but I'm not going to claim I have the experience to be in charge of peoples well being. I've attended an ACA anchor workshop, skills practice day and canyon descent with Rich and I plan on taking a 3 day technical course by June. So I'd be happy to contribute my experience, what little it is, and some gear.

Here is my list of canyons, all done in 2007:

Yankee Doodle x3
Pine Creek x3
Keyhole
Mystery
Spry
Subway
Birch Hollow
Orderville
Fry
White Roost (both Forks)

[abirken]

I'm definately going to follow and trust someone elses lead. I'm a definate noob. I've done a couple of slot canyons with an experienced person/leader and am up for an adventure. Just tell me where and I will meet you guys there.

Thanks to those that are making the decisions on where to go and setting the date.

[Randi]

We could only attend on the 7th weekend if it was held in Zion. :popcorn:

I'd totally be down for coming to noobfest if it was held in Zion.
I could lead too (meaning set anchors and stuff) as long as someone else navigates to and from the canyon!

I'd love to put actual people to the "avatars & words". :mrgreen:

~Randi

[LJ]

I can make the 7th also and looking forward to meeting everyone!


Lin


Are you Zion only too, or are you down with other areas. If we do Capitol Reef area the Zionists could come too -- Capitol Reef isn't too far from Zion, no?


I am in for anything/anywhere.

Lin

[Iceaxe]

I am in for anything/anywhere.

I expect Hammergate to be all over that any minute now. :haha:

Long time no see LJ.... nice to have you back.

:2thumbs:

[tanya]

Leader: Justin/Rock requesting help with newbies.. so far Randi and Jax will help. :popcorn:

Place: Still Unknown


1. Alex - Kazak
2. Justin - 'Beech
3. Scott - Acca
4. Alison - Abirken
5. Jax & Mrs. Jax - **help lead
6. Lynn - LJ
7. SLCmountainjunkee
8. Randi if in Zion - **help lead
9. Felicia and John if in Zion

Thinks are looking up.... Thanks for stepping up Rock! We knew you would. :haha:

Rock Gremlin: Questionnaire... Solid or Animal Print? Newbies must answer to join the group. (just so he knows what to wear) :lol8:

[rockgremlin]

Rock Gremlin: Questionnaire... Solid or Animal Print? Newbies must answer to join the group. (just so he knows what to wear) :lol8:

Solid -- and ONLY if Tanya shows up!!! Otherwise no show.

[rockgremlin]

Places:

Capitol Reef is a good place for noobs because the canyons there aren't highly technical (except Pandora's Box). Only problem is the hikes are a pain in the @$$ to get into. Either you set up a two hour car shuttle (which may or may not be possible to do anymore given new regs), or you hike the equivalent to the Moroni Slope/Squeeze slog uphill.

It might be easier to do something in the Swell, Roost or Zion, but Zion is an 8-hour drive for me. It's up to you guys. If you're going, sound off here WHERE you want it to be out of these three areas:

1. Swell
2. Roost
3. Zion

I'll respect the group's decision.

[tanya]

I know that if you guys want Ice to go that he would want to do something he does not have on his website. And I know we all want him there!

Of course Zion always works best for me.... but is there something here the Master has not done?


You made me smile again Rock! You are good. :five:

[Alex]

Since 3 people can't go unless Zion, only makes sense to do it there. Would it be hard to get permits for a big group in Zion? Can we pressure Bo to use his privilege on this one? :ne_nau:

[tanya]

Since 3 people can't go unless Zion, only makes sense to do it there. Would it be hard to get permits for a big group in Zion? Can we pressure Bo to use his privilege on this one? :ne_nau:


I know Bo would love to go to this and if in Zion it would be a for sure thing. I bet he would. Also....

Consider my favorite canyons there do not need permits....

Birch Hollow, Fat Man's Misery, Red Cave --- although you don't need a rope a big group could have a blast in there....

...and I bet there are a couple that Bo knows of that Shane has not done yet that also don't need permits.

[abirken]

I'm open to any of the above. Just excited to get out and play in the canyons. :2thumbs: So that's my two cents.

[Iceaxe]

When leading noob's I prefer to do routes I've done before, unless I have good reliable intel.

Just get your permits now for Zion if that's the plan, I think it only costs something like $5 to reserve your permits on line. You are stuck following the rules and group size limits just like everyone else.

You can add my name firmly into the maybe column.... I will not have my June schedule dialed until the end of this month.

:bootyshake:

[abirken]

Rock Gremlin: Questionnaire... Solid or Animal Print? Newbies must answer to join the group. (just so he knows what to wear) :lol8:

Solid -- and ONLY if Tanya shows up!!! Otherwise no show.


I am assuming this is the color of his banana hammock that he will be wearing while leading the group? :lol8: If so, I have to rock the vote and go with animal print. Preferably hot pink and black zebra print.

[Sombeech]

Hey, I'll lead.

--lead us to the bike trail around the corner. :haha:

[tanya]

Rock Gremlin: Questionnaire... Solid or Animal Print? Newbies must answer to join the group. (just so he knows what to wear) :lol8:

Solid -- and ONLY if Tanya shows up!!! Otherwise no show.


I am assuming this is the color of his banana hammock that he will be wearing while leading the group? :lol8: If so, I have to rock the vote and go with animal print. Preferably hot pink and black zebra print.


She has not seen THE picture. :lol8:

What a Newbie :lol8: Fear not... Rock will show you the way.

[tanya]

Hey, I'll lead.

--lead us to the bike trail around the corner. :haha:


No bikes :eek2: allowed this weekend! :bootyshake:

[trackrunner]

I'm a maybe. I would step up with a date and lead an easy canyon but (straight forward anchors). . . Still looking for a dam job and need one fast. :frustrated: So my schedule changes day to day. :wallbash:

[Jaxx]

When leading noob's I prefer to do routes I've done before, unless I have good reliable intel.

Just get your permits now for Zion if that's the plan, I think it only costs something like $5 to reserve your permits on line. You are stuck following the rules and group size limits just like everyone else.

You can add my name firmly into the maybe column.... I will not have my June schedule dialed until the end of this month.

:bootyshake:

But I won't go if you don't go! :haha:

I called on my rental house ---- It is rented right before and after that weekend..... we could use it but it would not be cleaned since people are checking out at 11am on Friday, which should be okay for a freebee..... and then I just have to have it cleaned by Monday morning (it takes a few hours) because it's rented. That way no one would have to pay for hotel rooms. If doing Fat Man's Misery its right near where we could set up a shuttle ----- which would at least be something a little different for Shane doing it that way.... so he could add a little something to his website. It's also closer to the canyons that start along the North Fork Road.

House -
There are 4 beds in the main house. I am not sure I want to open up the whole thing though because that's a lot of beds and cleaning for me to do on Sunday night, but if I did it opens up 4 more beds.

http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-park-rental-house.htm

So if you guys want the house you need to get Ice to go. :haha:


Wow that is really kind of you to offer that! Thanks! I think that if we used the house it should be with the understanding that we would atleast help you clean it if not clean it for you. Is there a lawn we could just throw out some sleeping bags and not worry about going inside.

[tanya]

I'm a maybe. I would step up with a date and lead an easy canyon but (straight forward anchors). . . Still looking for a dam job and need one fast. :frustrated: So my schedule changes day to day. :wallbash:


Call in sick! Shane and I can't do that though -- we both have to cover when others call in sick. :mrgreen:

[abirken]

Rock Gremlin: Questionnaire... Solid or Animal Print? Newbies must answer to join the group. (just so he knows what to wear) :lol8:

Solid -- and ONLY if Tanya shows up!!! Otherwise no show.


I am assuming this is the color of his banana hammock that he will be wearing while leading the group? :lol8: If so, I have to rock the vote and go with animal print. Preferably hot pink and black zebra print.


She has not seen THE picture. :lol8:

What a Newbie :lol8: Fear not... Rock will show you the way.


I am skeered now.........what am I getting myself into? Someone please show me the picture? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? :roflol:

[Iceaxe]

I am skeered now.........what am I getting myself into? Someone please show me the picture? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? :roflol:

The last Bogley fest still gives me nightmares....

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/wtf101.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2546__medium_.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2377__medium_.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/whored.jpg

But it was fun!!!!

[abirken]

OH NO YOU DI'INT...........HOLY MUTHER....OF BABY JEEBUS.... (Alison rethinks going on June 7th)

I'm still in. That ain't nothing! HAHA!! You guys are f'ing hysterical. My kinda crowd. :2thumbs:

BTW.....the more ball sacks, the merrier. :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[AJ]

Also add me to the "maybe" column. Although, I must apologize that I can't sign up to help organize (already too much going on right now.) As far as going to and in the canyons, I'm more than happy to help others and make/verify anchors.

I'm less likely to attend if it's in Zion (Zion is around a 11-12 hour drive for me.) No worries if that's where you end up though, as it sounds like there are plenty of experienced folks leaning towards the Zion side. The main issue I see with that is just working the permit system... I definitely agree that if Zion becomes the plan, you should reserve the canyons online ASAP. Many of the popular ones are likely already gone...

The only way I'd do Zion is if I could take the entire week off, and do both weekends and the full week (which might be possible)... Not worth that long of a drive to me otherwise...

Take care,
A.J.

[tanya]

Wow that is really kind of you to offer that! Thanks! I think that if we used the house it should be with the understanding that we would atleast help you clean it if not clean it for you. Is there a lawn we could just throw out some sleeping bags and not worry about going inside.

Dang! Sorry about that.... I thought I deleted that in time for anyone to see it ... we probably can't use it. The desk called me back and it seems the people renting it are not checking out until Saturday. I will see what I can do but for now let's not count on this one.

[nelsonccc]

Ya, we'll need another experienced guy to sign up to assist in the leading...unless Tanya and/or Felicia is a sure thing.


Alex could probably assist to some extent too.

And finally the trip begins to shift to the holy land. If we end up with another Bogley fest in Zion you can count me in. I'm more than willing to lead and help put it all together as needed. June 7th works well for me too. Looks to be another fun time.

[nelsonccc]

Since 3 people can't go unless Zion, only makes sense to do it there. Would it be hard to get permits for a big group in Zion? Can we pressure Bo to use his privilege on this one? :ne_nau:

As you already know permits will be tough but there is plenty outside of the park that we could do and if we decide we need more permits for something in the park; Jason will surely go and wait in line for us at 3:30 in the morning again.

[nelsonccc]

I am skeered now.........what am I getting myself into? Someone please show me the picture? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? :roflol:

The last Bogley fest still gives me nightmares....

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/wtf101.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2546__medium_.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/img_2377__medium_.jpg

http://www.bogley.com/forum/files/whored.jpg

But it was fun!!!!

I don't know who that guy is in the middle but he's definately hot. By far the best looking guy on that trip. I'm sure if we all put a quarter in the wishing jar he'll make another appearance.

[tanya]

Leader: Justin/Rock requesting help with newbies.. so far Randi, Jax, Nelson/Jason and maybe AJ will help.
Date: June 7th, 2008
Place: Zion

1. Alex - Kazak
2. Justin - 'Beech
3. Scott - Acca
4. Trackrunner
5. Alison - Abirken
6. Jax & Mrs. Jax - **help lead
7. Lynn - LJ
8. SLCmountainjunkee
9. Randi - **help lead
10. Felicia and John
11. Nelson & Jason - **help lead


Maybe
Shane
Tanya
A.J.

AJ - Do you live near Alison so you can drive together. You are both in Colorado right?

[Sombeech]

BTW.....the more ball sacks, the merrier. :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Hmm, I'll ask my wife if I can borrow mine for that weekend.

[rockgremlin]

And the merry men from Vegas sign on!! Oh man, this is gonna be off the HOOK!!!

[AJ]

AJ - Do you live near Alison so you can drive together. You are both in Colorado right?

Nope, it takes me around 4 hours and two mountain passes to get me near Alison's. If it definitely looks like Zion, I'm going to see what I can line up for going for 10 days... Another run down Heaps and Imlay is always a good thing! I'll watch how the event develops and will work on some of my own team and permits when I get the time...

Hope I get a chance to get it all together; would be great to meet everyone. (I'm just a little concerned as I've got a 2 week trip starting end of June, and many in between as well as a lot going on with work right now... Yeah, I know, cry me a river.)

BTW, if I come, I'm bringing my ball sack too. I'm sure many will be happy to know. Those pictures are just scary though...


Take care,
A.J.

[abirken]

AJ - Do you live near Alison so you can drive together. You are both in Colorado right?

Nope, it takes me around 4 hours and two mountain passes to get me near Alison's. If it definitely looks like Zion, I'm going to see what I can line up for going for 10 days... Another run down Heaps and Imlay is always a good thing! I'll watch how the event develops and will work on some of my own team and permits when I get the time...

Hope I get a chance to get it all together; would be great to meet everyone. (I'm just a little concerned as I've got a 2 week trip starting end of June, and many in between as well as a lot going on with work right now... Yeah, I know, cry me a river.)

BTW, if I come, I'm bringing my ball sack too. I'm sure many will be happy to know. Those pictures are just scary though...


Take care,
A.J.


I'm bringin my noob boobs...
sorry couldn't resist that one ya'll. :lol8:
However no pictures allowed. Agreed AJ....those pictures were blinding for a moment.

[Sombeech]

I'm bringin my noob boobs...

newb bewbs

[abirken]

Zion it is! Awesome~

Question: I've never been to Zion. Coming from Colorado, should I exit Seiver off of I-70 and take Hwy 89 in? Or should I take the 70-15 route? Didn't know if one is more scenic than the other? I've driven the 15 to Calif several times, just looking for something different this time. :blahblah:

[shagster]

Leader: Justin/Rock requesting help with newbies.. so far Randi, Jax, Nelson/Jason and maybe AJ will help.
Date: June 7th, 2008
Place: Zion

1. Alex - Kazak
2. Justin - 'Beech
3. Scott - Acca
4. Trackrunner
5. Alison - Abirken
6. Jax & Mrs. Jax - **help lead
7. Lynn - LJ
8. SLCmountainjunkee
9. Randi - **help lead
10. Felicia and John
11. Nelson & Jason - **help lead


Maybe
Shane
Tanya
A.J.

AJ - Do you live near Alison so you can drive together. You are both in Colorado right?

I should be able to make it that weekend. I can help whever needed. I have a little experience, and been training for SAR for the last year, so I feel pretty comfortable. Put me on the list to attend. :2thumbs:

[COUNTRYBOY]

You can add me as a maybe. I have a wedding luncheon scheduled to cater, but I may be able to get the other guys to handle it if it is not to big. I have been looking at a course through one of the places there in Springdale if all else fails.

[tanya]

Bo... of course you are nominated.

Permit Experts

What is the process for others that want to apply for permits. I know there is an online way to do it, but don't they have to go and take some class first?

What is our best bet right now to get more permits other than what you can get?

Getting Das Boot and the Subway would be cool. We could do the Russel Gulch entry so they can get in 3 - 100' rappels too! -- then all the fun downclimbs in Das Boot and the beauty of the Subway. Then of course the delightful uphill hike out. :popcorn: -- or if there is not enough permits some can do Russel Gulch, some Das Boot and all meet in the Subway?



https://zionpermits.nps.gov/

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/backcountry.cfm?TripTypeID=3

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/lotteryapply.cfm

[Randi]

Bo... of course you are nominated.

Permit Experts

What is the process for others that want to apply for permits. I know there is an online way to do it, but don't they have to go and take some class first?

What is our best bet right now to get more permits other than what you can get?

Getting Das Boot and the Subway would be cool. We could do the Russel Gulch entry so they can get in 3 - 100' rappels too! -- then all the fun downclimbs in Das Boot and the beauty of the Subway. Then of course the delightful uphill hike out. :popcorn: -- or if there is not enough permits some can do Russel Gulch, some Das Boot and all meet in the Subway?



https://zionpermits.nps.gov/

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/lotteryapply.cfm

COOL that Zion got picked! YAY!
This is gonna be FUN! :2thumbs:

Shane, you HAVE to come!!!! I don't see how it can be a "true" bogleyFest without "certain" players.

I'd like to do Das Boot & Subway, but the lottery isn't running for June yet!
I would need a navigator for this one, as I can't be trusted
to read, draw or follow a map.
I have ropes & know how to use them for what its worth, so I am "good' for something! :mrgreen:

Canyons I could lead without navigational help
would be Keyhole & Pine Creek....
Anyone have an interest in those canyons?
We could do both in one day.

What about hidden from the top?
Anyone interested in that one?
I've hiked up from the bottom and it's really beautiful, but I've not done it from the top.

Or I could "help" out on anything really.

[Randi]

How did you get a permit for Subway Bo? Oh that's right - you've got connections! :2thumbs:

I would like to do this one on Sat., but if I'm needed somewhere else, I'll go wherever I'm needed.
I thought you were undecided Shane ~ happy to see you're going to be there.

Hank should be number 20!!!!! :mrgreen:

Sign up Hank - Pleeeeeeaze?

[Iceaxe]

Dang.... I go to bed last night and I'm a firm maybe.... and today I wake up and notice I'm signed up as trip leader. :ne_nau:

[abirken]

NOOB NEEDS HELP.........

Ok so I haven't done anything that requires a permit. Someone please tell me what I should do? Steer me in the right direction. Thanks!

[Iceaxe]

I never used steroids.... :lol8:

So what does the little asterisk by my name mean?

:ne_nau:

[tanya]

I never used steroids.... :lol8:

So what does the little asterisk by my name mean?

:ne_nau:


You are a Master... a leader.. of course. :lol8:

[abirken]

Ok well I just don't want to miss out on the fun b/c I was being a slacker or anything. So please you guys keep me updated if there is anything I need to know or do..........thanks!! :2thumbs:

[Randi]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

[Randi]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

No problem.
But, who are you, who wrote over my post? :ne_nau:

[Iceaxe]

Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do. :haha:

Just get the folks inside the church and seated in the pews.... we'll decide which songs to sing and in what order later.

:cool2:

[Randi]

Update

Leaders: Rock and Shane
Helpers: Bo, Shaggy, Randi, Jax, Nelson, Jason
Date: June 6-8th, 2008
Place: Zion

1 Shane*
2. Rock*
3. Bo*
4. Shaggy*
5. Nelson*
6. Price - Jason*
7. Jax*
8. Randi*
9. Alex
10. Justin - 'Beech
11. Scott - Acca
12. Trackrunner
13. Alison - Abirken
14. Mrs. Jax
15. Lynn - LJ
16. SLCmountainjunkee
17. Felicia
18. John
19. Tanya
20. Adam
21. Sarah
22. Hank
23.
24. Last person :ne_nau:

No more than 24 total



Birch Hollow - unlimited and one of the best!
1. Everyone

Fat Man's Misery - unlimited and although a long hike, fun canyon!
1. Everyone

Red Hollow - unlimited - fun but no ropes involved
1. Everyone

Yankee Doodle - unlimited - fun with 1 rappel and lots of downclimbs
1. Everyone


Thoughts?

Hidden from the top? Does that need permits?


It seems that we need to choose a maximum number than can attend too, so if you are not coming for sure take your name off the list so others can. We have 20 now. More than 24 would be a problem for sure.



Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do. :haha:

I took the liberty of signing Hank up cuz he's outta town & might be unable to get to bogly mail. Can I do that?
He can remove his name when he gets back if'n he doesn't want to come......

[tanya]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

No problem.
But, who are you, who wrote over my post? :ne_nau:.

Me :mrgreen: I forget I have such power sometimes! :dizzy: :oops:

:oops: I get carried away.

[tanya]

Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do. :haha:

Just get the folks inside the church and seated in the pews.... we'll decide which songs to sing and in what order later.

:cool2:


You got it! :five:

[Jaxx]

My wife hasn't done Pinecreek yet. So I would love to get her in there. I also would love to do Das Boot. Of course the Permits make for problems. I will do whatever but I'm crossing my fingers.

[greyhair biker]

:hsugh: damn...one of these days I'm gonna be able to do this...schedule just doesnt mesh then :ne_nau:

[Iceaxe]

Tanya - I don't know how you are compiling your list.... but make sure everyone on it is committed in the next week or so. That way you can open up the empty slots.

At the Black Hole fest we only had one no-show..... at the 2007 Zion fest we had zero no-shows....

My rule when organizing trips is if you commit and then flake without removing your name you are not welcome on anther trip I organize.... it's only common curtesy and common sense.

:cool2:

[James_B_Wads2000]

Hey that weekend would work for me. I wouldn

[tanya]

:hsugh: damn...one of these days I'm gonna be able to do this...schedule just doesnt mesh then :ne_nau:


Take care of it! Just take the days off.... Hurry... 2 seats left.

Just do it!!!!

[Iceaxe]

[quote=James_B_Wads2000]Where is everybody saying? Camping? Hotels? Under Tayna

[tanya]

Tanya - I don't know how you are compiling your list.... but make sure everyone on it is committed in the next week or so. That way you can open up the empty slots.

At the Black Hole fest we only had one no-show..... at the 2007 Zion fest we had zero no-shows....

My rule when organizing trips is if you commit and then flake without removing your name you are not welcome on anther trip I organize.... it's only common curtesy and common sense.

:cool2:

I do whatever you tell me to do of course! I put that rule on the update! :five:

[tanya]

Update

Leaders: Rock and Shane
Helpers: Bo, Shaggy, Randi, Jax, Nelson, Jason
Date: June 6-8th, 2008
Place: Zion

1 Shane*
2. Rock*
3. Bo*
4. Shaggy*
5. Nelson*
6. Price - Jason*
7. Jax*
8. Randi*
9. Alex
10. Justin - 'Beech
11. Scott - Acca
12. Trackrunner
13. Alison - Abirken
14. Mrs. Jax
15. Lynn - LJ
16. SLCmountainjunkee
17. Felicia
18. John
19. Tanya
20. Adam
21. Sarah
22. Hank
23. Win
24. DP & DB

Waiting List
25. John - alusul
26. Bruce - fireuseman

* James! Coming to watch and party. No canyons. :five:

No more than 24 total



Birch Hollow - unlimited and one of the best!
1. Everyone

Fat Man's Misery - unlimited and although a long hike, fun canyon!
1. Everyone

Red Hollow - unlimited - fun but no ropes involved
1. Everyone

Yankee Doodle - unlimited - fun with 1 rappel and lots of downclimbs
1. Everyone


Thoughts?

Hidden from the top? Does that need permits?


It seems that we need to choose a maximum number than can attend too, so if you are not coming for sure take your name off the list so others can. We have 20 now. More than 24 would be a problem for sure.


Going by Ice's Rules -- If you are on the list and don't show you don't get to come to another trip! If you are not coming make sure your name is off the list!

Ice's Rule!
My rule when organizing trips is if you commit and then flake without removing your name you are not welcome on anther trip I organize.... it's only common courtesy and common sense.

[Randi]

[quote=James_B_Wads2000]Hey that weekend would work for me. I wouldn

[rockgremlin]

I think your list of canyons looks really good as I haven't done any of them, but would love to do them all! :2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

I do whatever you tell me to do of course!

I wish it were that easy..... :naughty:

:popcorn:

[James_B_Wads2000]

I think that detail is still being worked out.... give it a week and ask again...

I

[Randi]

Where are all the women?

With 3.16 men to every woman attending, this is gonna be like canyoneering in China ~ sans the Chinese men!

[Win]

Thanks for the heads up , Tanya.

Win :2thumbs:

[James_B_Wads2000]

But can you have dinner and cold BEER ready for us when we get back from the canyons? Hmmmmm? :mrgreen:

Why can't you do canyons anyway?
Is it because you're a baby?

I can keep beer cold but I don

[Iceaxe]

Where are all the women?

Doesn't really matter... if Price and Adam show up the rest of us will just be fighting over seconds anyways....

:five:

[Alex]

Don't forget rock, as far as I remember, he got all the females last time :haha:

[Bo_Beck]

Since 3 people can't go unless Zion, only makes sense to do it there. Would it be hard to get permits for a big group in Zion? Can we pressure Bo to use his privilege on this one? :ne_nau:

I just scored a permit for 27 people for Heaps! We should get a 5AM start on friday so that we can get out by 5PM on sunday! :roflol: No really...I do hope anything I can do will help so that we can have A BLAST! :2thumbs:

[Alex]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

[tanya]

Can I bring my little dog through Heaps? :nod:

[alusul]

Dang I missed these new developments, I can make it down for this so put me on the confirm list or waiting list if necessary, my names John by the way and I have done very few canyons in Zion and am excited to get back down there!

[Felicia]

Ok. We are in and ready to go. My daughter, Julie, may join us. She does not know yet. :haha:

I will know more when she get's to her summer assignment.



:popcorn:

[Sombeech]

This is going to be a freakin PARTAYYYYY :banana:

[abirken]

This is going to be a freakin PARTAYYYYY :banana:

I'm bringing the booze........ :lol8: Sounds like I may need a stiff drink after doing Heaps?

[abirken]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

Should I be skeered?

[SLCmntjunkie]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

Should I be skeered?

That was a joke if don't know, newbies and heeps have no business in the same sentance.

[Alex]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

Should I be skeered?

That was a joke if don't know, newbies and heeps have no business in the same sentance.

Not true.... :nono: if the sentence has S&R in it, then those two words go well together :haha:

[abirken]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

Should I be skeered?

That was a joke if don't know, newbies and heeps have no business in the same sentance.

Something told me my gut was right.........somehow these PEOPLE on HERE :lol8: always get my GOAT. Either that or I'm gullable as shit. After reading about Heaps in my book, I was thinking " Ok, I CAN DO THIS" as long as I knew there was a bottle of Jaegarmeister waiting for me at the end.

[accadacca]

So we gotta get our own permits or wtf. Is Bo getting them or are we doing a canyon where you don't need them? Page 16 coming up. . .

[alusul]

as long as I knew there was a bottle of Jaegarmeister waiting for me at the end.
A kindred spirit! :five:

Rest assured this will be the case :mrgreen:

[nelsonccc]

So we gotta get our own permits or wtf. Is Bo getting them or are we doing a canyon where you don't need them? Page 16 coming up. . .

I think we need to firm up the number of people coming and then decide on which canyons and when. So far i've heard Birch, Misery, Yankee, and Red Hollow. Lets say we end up with 24 people, we could split into two groups swapping canyons on the two days. One group of twelve does Birch while the other does Misery or whatever then the groups swap for the next day.

If we end up with groups larger than 6 we're going to mostly be forced out of permit canyons. What about several groups of six? There are going to be a few who have never been here before who are going to want to hit Das Boot, Pine, and Keyhole. While others will want something a bit more meatier. A possible suggestion;
-One group of 6-12 hits Keyhole and Pine on Saturday and a non permit canyon on Sunday, like Birch or Misery.
-Another group of 6 hits Das Boot, swaps and does something else on Sunday, maybe Rock Canyon.
-Another group of six hits Boundary or something of heartier fare one day, something else on Sunday.

I think the groups would naturally get mixed on the two days with this many people coming. There will also be plently of socializing in the evenings.

We could also set it up like Tom has in the past with his fests. Each leader posts which canyons he plans on doing, arranges permits, then others 'sign up' for that leader on that day. This way we may be able to satisfy all of the diferent needs of 24 people.

My two cents. I'm just looking to spend some time with good friends again.

[nelsonccc]

i just checked and there are plenty of on line permits available for canyons on the 7th and 8th. Looks like somebody snagged a bunch for Pine on the 8th but there is still a ton left for Saturday. Spry, Behunin, Telephone, Englestead, and Das Boot all have 6 or more permits available on line for the 7th and 8th.

All of those above I feel are fine for noobs who have at least done a few canyons before, all pretty straightforward, except for maybe the 300 footer on Englestead. I also like Rock quite a bit. Just thinking out loud here but we could send a dozen down Misery and a dozen down Rock and all meet at French for the easy Misery hike out and avoid that slog out the other way.

Could do the same thing with Englestead and Birch. Send six down Englstead and a dozen or so down Birch and meet in Orderville for th hike out the bottom.

Has anybody looked into a group campsite? some sort of gathering place?

[Bo_Beck]

Can I bring my little dog through Heaps? :nod:

Do you know CPR? :haha:

[tanya]

Can I bring my little dog through Heaps? :nod:

Do you know CPR? :haha:


No... I thought the man along is suppose to do that part. That one guy did it for that one girl. :haha:

[Bo_Beck]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

My first trip through Heaps was with a youngster that had done Mystery with me a few weeks earlier, and his boss that I took out and taught to rappel the day before the trip! :ne_nau:

My 3rd trip through was with a former employee and 4 other friends. Curt stood 5'10" and weighed in at 320# :ne_nau:

Whats to say that 27 of us couldn't get through that skinny canyon and enjoy pizza and (root) beer afterwards? :haha:

[Bo_Beck]

This is going to be a freakin PARTAYYYYY :banana:

I'm bringing the booze........ :lol8: Sounds like I may need a stiff drink after doing Heaps?

What the heck...Bring the booze and after a while we can just pretend that we did Heaps! :lol8:

[Bo_Beck]

Can I bring my little dog through Heaps? :nod:

Do you know CPR? :haha:


No... I thought the man along is suppose to do that part. That one guy did it for that one girl. :haha:

He was severely hypothermic! :lol8:

[tanya]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

My first trip through Heaps was with a youngster that had done Mystery with me a few weeks earlier, and his boss that I took out and taught to rappel the day before the trip! :ne_nau:

My 3rd trip through was with a former employee and 4 other friends. Curt stood 5'10" and weighed in at 320# :ne_nau:

Whats to say that 27 of us couldn't get through that skinny canyon and enjoy pizza and (root) beer afterwards? :haha:


Link to the story of Bo's first trip through Heaps. For those that don't know we call Bo the Heaps Master, having done it more times and faster than anyone.

http://www.summitpost.org/canyon/375868/heaps-canyon.html

[abirken]

This is going to be a freakin PARTAYYYYY :banana:

I'm bringing the booze........ :lol8: Sounds like I may need a stiff drink after doing Heaps?

What the heck...Bring the booze and after a while we can just pretend that we did Heaps! :lol8:

DEAL!!! :lol8:

[Bo_Beck]

24 newbies to Heaps! LOL :roflol:

My first trip through Heaps was with a youngster that had done Mystery with me a few weeks earlier, and his boss that I took out and taught to rappel the day before the trip! :ne_nau:

My 3rd trip through was with a former employee and 4 other friends. Curt stood 5'10" and weighed in at 320# :ne_nau:

Whats to say that 27 of us couldn't get through that skinny canyon and enjoy pizza and (root) beer afterwards? :haha:


Link to the story of Bo's first trip through Heaps. For those that don't know we call Bo the Heaps Master, having done it more times and faster than anyone.

http://www.summitpost.org/canyon/375868/heaps-canyon.html

Amazing what Booze can do! :lol8: My stories keep getting better...No actually, I do love Heaps Canyon, but it's been a few years and Tanya and I plan on doing a "Photo Trip" through Heaps this year. I really hope it works out so that we can see the best collection of photos ever done in this remote canyon! :2thumbs:

[Brian in SLC]

For those that don't know we call Bo the Heaps Master, having done it more times and faster than anyone.

Hmmm...

What's his fastest time through?

Seem to recall a number of folk had done it sub 9 hours...

-Brian in SLC

[trackrunner]

i just checked and there are plenty of on line permits available for canyons on the 7th and 8th. Looks like somebody snagged a bunch for Pine on the 8th but there is still a ton left for Saturday. Spry, Behunin, Telephone, Englestead, and Das Boot all have 6 or more permits available on line for the 7th and 8th.

All of those above I feel are fine for noobs who have at least done a few canyons before, all pretty straightforward, except for maybe the 300 footer on Englestead. I also like Rock quite a bit. Just thinking out loud here but we could send a dozen down Misery and a dozen down Rock and all meet at French for the easy Misery hike out and avoid that slog out the other way.

Could do the same thing with Englestead and Birch. Send six down Englstead and a dozen or so down Birch and meet in Orderville for th hike out the bottom.

Has anybody looked into a group campsite? some sort of gathering place?
I have wanted to do Rock for a long time. :2thumbs: I'd do it this trip or set up a trip some other time too. :2thumbs: No permit either.

Tanya I was also thinking if we needed another canyon we could do Water Canyon. I know it is easy, but no permits and this is noobfest so easy is ok.

[Sombeech]

OK, so we've got the date and area nailed down. This thread is getting really long (16+ pages), so how about I create another thread with just the details?

The moderators can edit the participant list as it updates, as well as the canyons.

Here is the Noobfest Summary Thread:
http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=105867