Boater's Guide to Lake Powell

[Iceaxe]

I just received a copy of Kelsey's new book "Boater's Guide to Lake Powell, 5th Edition". So far I've only thumbed through the book but it appears to be something every canyoneer is going to want in their library. I'll guess that you will be able to find a copy of the book at the usual places in the next couple of weeks.

Lot's of nice photography that looks much better then any of his previous books. The jump to digital camera's has been kind to Kelsey.

Kelsey says his next book will be the "Technical Slot Canyon 2nd Edition" and will be out sometime this summer.

:popcorn:

[oldno7]

couple canyons down there I've been studying, will be interested to see if they are in the book.

[Iceaxe]

Kelsey's Powell Boater book is geared mainly towards hikers, but there are some clues as to what will be in his next technical book. As I thumbed through the Powell Boater book I noticed several references to "See Tech Slots 2nd edition". I also noticed some rappels noted on his hand drawn maps.

From the new book it's obvious that the biggest problem with attempting to beta the Lake Powell slots is the lake level. The lake drops 100' and what once was a short stroll is now an all day hike. Or what once was a stroll is now a tech slot. I did notice Kelsey's new book highlights my favorite Powell hiking slot, which is Oak (Noted on some maps as Secret).

:popcorn:

[Scott Card]

I also noticed some rappels noted on his hand drawn maps.



You just had to bring up the maps.... I have attempted to understand his hand drawn maps. Emphasis on the word "attempted." Those maps remind me of listening to someone on the radio saying "Oh, did you see that?" Um, no I didn't. I am not there and you are on the RADIO. Let's see, we are in the US of A and we don't speak in kilometers or meters. Second, this following line such and such on a topo to some boulder or feature off to the right or some such thing just isn't very helpful unless you are there with him pointing to it. In other words, I don't find his maps or directions terribly helpful. Perhaps if I went hiking with him and watched him draw his map, then I would understand what he is talking about. I do love the canyon descriptions and at least to have an idea where he is talking about so that I can go to my own maps or sources to get some more user friendly beta. Yes, I know, I am exposing my ignorance perhaps. I hope his new books are a wee bit clearer than the old books. Yes, I will probably be one of the first to get my hands on both of these books. Murmur murmur.

[ratagonia]

You just had to bring up the maps.... I have attempted to understand his hand drawn maps. Emphasis on the word "attempted." Those maps remind me of listening to someone on the radio saying "Oh, did you see that?" Um, no I didn't. I am not there and you are on the RADIO. Let's see, we are in the US of A and we don't speak in kilometers or meters. Second, this following line such and such on a topo to some boulder or feature off to the right or some such thing just isn't very helpful unless you are there with him pointing to it. In other words, I don't find his maps or directions terribly helpful. Perhaps if I went hiking with him and watched him draw his map, then I would understand what he is talking about. I do love the canyon descriptions and at least to have an idea where he is talking about so that I can go to my own maps or sources to get some more user friendly beta. Yes, I know, I am exposing my ignorance perhaps. I hope his new books are a wee bit clearer than the old books. Yes, I will probably be one of the first to get my hands on both of these books. Murmur murmur.

Allow me to defend Mr. K. The maps (well, at least MY maps) are not really intended to be used BY THEMSELVES. Get a real (topo) map, and ADD Mr. K's map, and you will get where you are goin'. Otherwise, it is an iffy proposition.

What I do is take Mike's maps and hold up against Topo!, transfer the valuable information, and print out a color copy at a much larger scale. Or you can hold the USGS topo map and the book side by side, and figure it out.

Mike traces the map off of the USGS topo map. Next version of the slot book will probably have maps in color. Still hand-drawn.

Tom

[Scott Card]

Next version of the slot book will probably have maps in color. Still hand-drawn.

Tom

Color maps will make all the difference. :lol8: Thanks for the hints. I will try out the overlay method. Then I will sprinkle it with lemon juice and heat it in the oven and see what secret message appears. :haha: Just kidding. I just now returned from MountainWorks in Provo and put my name on the list for his book when it comes in.

[Iceaxe]

One problem with the overlay method is MK uses the 100K maps to begin his trace, and everyone already knows the 100k maps are to large of scale to be of any value in canyoneering. Only good thing is if you use Topo it's easy to transpose your point of reference to the 7.5 maps that the rest of the canyoneering world uses.

Anther item about MK's new book.... he no longer identifies the people in the photograph's. After looking through the book I found I miss the personal identification.... your mileage may vary.

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[trackrunner]

Another book I need to buy now.
thanks for info :2thumbs: