What is it with some men -- they are just SICK!

[tanya]

Head of BLM's Kanab field office charged with child sex abuse
By Mark Havnes
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 01/02/2008 03:00:00 PM MST


Rex L. Smart Posted: 1:35 PM- KANAB - The head of the Bureau of Land Management's field office in Kanab has been charged with 13 felonies in two separate cases involving sexual abuse of a child.
Rex Lee Smart was arrested Friday and booked into Kane County's jail. He later was released after posting a $125,000 bail.
In one case, Smart, 60, is charged with sodomy on a child, attempted rape of a child, three counts of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping. All are first-degree felonies.
He also is charged with two second-degree felony counts of sexual abuse of a child.
According to court documents, the alleged crimes occurred sometime between May 15 and June 15, 2005, at Smart's house in Kanab and involved a 9-year-old girl.
The documents state that Smart fondled the girl, exposed himself to her and forced her to have oral sex and intercourse.
"The child stated that she was scared to death when this event took place," the court papers state.
In the second case, which allegedly occurred Sept. 9, 2006, Smart is charged with sodomy, three counts of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping involving the same child.
Documents state that on that date, Smart was at a Lions Club demolition derby at the Kaneplex rodeo facility, south of Kanab, when he took the victim, then 10 years old, in his truck to teach her to drive.
He allegedly drove the vehicle away to a location where he was able to view all roads leading to and from the Kaneplex facility and laid her down on the seat of the truck against her will. Smart then took off her clothes, fondled her and had oral sex with her, according to court documents.
Kanab Police Detective Osvaldo Macias said Wednesday that he began investigating Smart about two weeks ago after Utah Division of Child and Family Services received an anonymous call alerting them to the alleged abuses.
"I went out and starting knocking on doors," Macias said. "I dropped everything to work on the case."
The detective said "aggravated" was added to some of the charges because Smart was acting as a baby sitter at the time, giving him a position of trust over the young victim.
Kanab Police Chief Tom Cram said the inquiry is continuing to see if there are other victims.
Smart is scheduled to appear in Kanab's 6th District Court on Jan. 11.
The BLM said it is evaluating the situation and plans to issue a statement later.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7863988?source=email

[rockgremlin]

Prison is too good for guys like this. In fact, death is also too good for these types. They deserve nothing but good ole fashioned brute force torture.

I suspect by that comment I will be demonized and the touchy-feely arguments will be rolled out in an attempt to justify his actions. Doesn't matter, I remain steadfast in my vengeful attitude. If this animal got loose with one of mine, I would be out for blood.

[goofball]

as far as i know studies have shown that sex crime offenders are virtually "untreatable". recidivism is high and there seems to be no way to correct whatever the aberration that causes them to prey on others. all the more reason to shoot them in the head once it is discovered what they are. the risk to society far outweighs their worth in my opinion.

[double moo]

No reason for these types to use up good air.... if they are in fact guilty.

Before we hang him we should make sure he did what he's acused of.

Remember the Bishop in Lehi 10 or so years ago? Arrested for chlid abuse - lost his job, reputation, church backing, waife and family abandoned him, etc... only to find out that the accuser was only following the social workers leads during questioning.

Please don't think I'm sticking up for a pedophile, I just don't want another inoccent's life ruined.

[R]

No reason for these types to use up good air.... if they are in fact guilty.

Before we hang him we should make sure he did what he's acused of.

Remember the Bishop in Lehi 10 or so years ago? Arrested for chlid abuse - lost his job, reputation, church backing, waife and family abandoned him, etc... only to find out that the accuser was only following the social workers leads during questioning.

Please don't think I'm sticking up for a pedophile, I just don't want another inoccent's life ruined.

There is little about America that is more important, or easier to forget in a time of indignant rage, than the principal of the accused being innocent until proven guilty.

Sub-category: believing the accusations of the police or the government before a suspect (that word means "suspected of committing a crime", not guilty of a crime) has a fair and thorough trial only invites the abuse of power by the government, or the media for that matter. Let the courts prove that someone is guilty, not the six o'clock news.

So, if this guy gets a 400-year sentence for unspeakable crimes, then wish him the seventh circle of hell's sewage system.

[denaliguide]

if this guy is guilty i hope he ends up licking thunder dicks buttcrack.

[shlingdawg]

It surprises me that the father of this poor girl doesn't take the law into his own hands and deal this ass-tard the deck of cards that's due.

Lop off his pecker!!! Lop it off!!! Then hang it from a rope around the cowards neck.

[JP]

What about these female teachers :mrgreen:

[live2ride]

It surprises me that the father of this poor girl doesn't take the law into his own hands and deal this ass-tard the deck of cards that's due.

Lop off his pecker!!! Lop it off!!! Then hang it from a rope around the cowards neck.


And get thrown in jail with him so both guys cannot see the girl grow up? I agree that it is terrible when something like this happens but I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

[tanya]

According to court documents, the alleged crimes occurred sometime between May 15 and June 15, 2005, at Smart's house in Kanab and involved a 9-year-old girl.
The documents state that Smart fondled the girl, exposed himself to her and forced her to have oral sex and intercourse.
"The child stated that she was scared to death when this event took place," the court papers state.
In the second case, which allegedly occurred Sept. 9, 2006, Smart is charged with sodomy, three counts of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping involving the same child.
Documents state that on that date, Smart was at a Lions Club demolition derby at the Kaneplex rodeo facility, south of Kanab, when he took the victim, then 10 years old, in his truck to teach her to drive.

Looks like he abused this child for quite some time. I wonder how he got so close to her and was allowed to spend so much time with her?

[Sombeech]

wow, 9 years old. One of these days I'm going to make an animated gif of me, hanging my head down in disgust and shaking it, just to show my reaction to some of these things.

I'm sure I'll use it in the political forum from time to time. :haha:

[rockgremlin]

I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

I must be stupid then because I would definitely be out to inflict some serious Abu Ghraib style physical and psychological trauma.

[Randi]

Looks like he abused this child for quite some time. I wonder how he got so close to her and was allowed to spend so much time with her?[/quote]

It

[packfish]

In cases like this somtimes China's justice system doesn't look so bad.

[tanya]

There are two things going on here... one of course the sick acts this man has done and the other is what he has done to those who work in the BLM in the Kanab area.

It's really difficult for BLM people to live in Kanab already, this is going to make it even worse. :cool2: It's like there are two totally different kinds of people there.... :ne_nau: locals and BLM -- sort of like black and white before the 60's. The locals rarely accept the BLM :frustrated: and this is not going to make it any better. :roll: It's a shame because I am one of those that like both types but I am not considered a local being raised away from here in the real world. :nod:

[live2ride]

I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

I must be stupid then because I would definitely be out to inflict some serious Abu Ghraib style physical and psychological trauma.

And hurt your daughter even worse by getting thrown in jail? I know this is what everyone always says they would do and the person deserves it if they are guilty; however, that wouldn't benefit your child by leaving them with you in jail, thinking that they really shouldn't have said anything because now dad is gone.

[Jaxx]

I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

I must be stupid then because I would definitely be out to inflict some serious Abu Ghraib style physical and psychological trauma.

And hurt your daughter even worse by getting thrown in jail? I know this is what everyone always says they would do and the person deserves it if they are guilty; however, that wouldn't benefit your child by leaving them with you in jail, thinking that they really shouldn't have said anything because now dad is gone.

You just have to make it look like an accident.

[rockgremlin]

I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

I must be stupid then because I would definitely be out to inflict some serious Abu Ghraib style physical and psychological trauma.

And hurt your daughter even worse by getting thrown in jail? I know this is what everyone always says they would do and the person deserves it if they are guilty; however, that wouldn't benefit your child by leaving them with you in jail, thinking that they really shouldn't have said anything because now dad is gone.

You just have to make it look like an accident.


Exactly!!! Revenge is a dish best served cold, with a side dish of a good alibi.

[Deathcricket]

I also like the uproar of what everyone would do.....which is usually nothing if you are smart.

I must be stupid then because I would definitely be out to inflict some serious Abu Ghraib style physical and psychological trauma.

And hurt your daughter even worse by getting thrown in jail? I know this is what everyone always says they would do and the person deserves it if they are guilty; however, that wouldn't benefit your child by leaving them with you in jail, thinking that they really shouldn't have said anything because now dad is gone.

You just have to make it look like an accident.

Or make sure they never find the body. :frustrated:

God hearing about stuff like this pisses me off. I honestly believe that these sickos have a "sixth sense" or "radar" where they can find children/victims that won't report abuses like this. It's almost uncanny. Sadly so many of these children believe it's their fault for some reason and live their entire lives hiding these terrible secrets.

Granted, he's not been convicted yet, so I reserve judgement. But if he did indeed commit these crimes, I guarantee you there are several others in his wake that he also abused but are just too scared/ashamed to report it. If anyone has knowledge on how to raise your kid understanding not to be a victim but at the same time not giving them knowledge of just how sick some people can be, I would really appreciate the info.

Lastly, to whoever said they feel kinda sorry for the person. That's complete crap man. Every person should be held accountable for their actions and saying you had a messed up childhood is rediculous. Granted I will agree that probably 99.9% of molesters were molested themselves, but the reasons people do evil things does NOT excuse their actions. If anything they should understand whats it's like to be abused and not want to do it to someone else. They just need to be removed from society (or the planet) IMO, so they cant harm anyone else. I'm saying give the father of the child a baseball bat and 10 mins with the perp. It won't make everything better, but it's a start. *shrug*

[Randi]

If anyone has knowledge on how to raise your kid understanding not to be a victim but at the same time not giving them knowledge of just how sick some people can be, I would really appreciate the info.

I don

[rockgremlin]

[quote=Randi]You wouldn

[Jaxx]

Along with most of what Randi said. I tell my kids that they can lie to bad guys. I let them know that if someone tells you not to tell because they will hurt them or us as the family then it is ok to tell the bad guy that they won't tell. But if they tell they will not get into trouble.

[double moo]

After we establish his guilt... I'm recommending the "Dan treatment".

For those of you who may not know Dan... he was a 450 pound silverback gorilla up at the zoo. So we simply apply a liberal amount of female gorilla "in-heat" scent to the perp's back side, and introduce him to Dan. Something about a pedophile being ass raped to death by a primate that large would make a lot of us feel better. Picture a grown man being thrown around like a rag doll till near death... only to be raped again for good measure. I'm sure his last thoughts would be similar to those of his victim.

Book 'em Dano

[tanya]

If this goes through it might 'reform' a few sickos. Mr. BLM might get to face something new....

Court mulls death penalty for child rape By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer
40 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court agreed Friday to decide whether a state can execute someone convicted of raping a child, one of the few remaining crimes that does not require the death of the victim to result in capital punishment.


Patrick Kennedy, 43, was sentenced to death for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter in Louisiana. He is one of two people in the United States, both in Louisiana, who have been condemned to death for a rape that was not also accompanied by a killing.

The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman.

Kennedy's lawyers say the death penalty for child rape violates the Eighth Amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment.

The justices were scheduled to hear arguments in the case in April.

The last executions for rape or any other crime that did not include a victim's death were in 1964.

Forty-five states ban the death penalty for any kind of rape, and the other five states allow it for child rapists. Kennedy's case is the only time a state has sought to execute someone. Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas allow executions in such cases.

The Louisiana Supreme Court upheld the sentence. "Our state legislature and this court have determined this category of aggravated rapist to be among those deserving of the death penalty, and short of first-degree murder, we can think of no other non-homicide crime more deserving," Justice Jeffrey Victory wrote.

Chief Justice Pascal Calogero dissented, saying that with the possible exception of espionage or treason, "the Eighth Amendment precludes capital punishment for any offense that does not involve the death of the victim."

The child rape case is the second capital punishment case from Louisiana this term at the Supreme Court. The justices already are considering whether a prosecutor improperly excluded blacks from a jury and then inflamed the all-white panel with references to the O.J. Simpson case.

In addition, the court is weighing whether the way Kentucky executes prisoners by lethal injection

[Sombeech]

Hell, they won't even kill admitted murderers.

They can have all the sentences they want, I just find that notion odd when they've pretty much put a halt on capitol punishment.

[James_B_Wads2000]

That

[tanya]

I would think that child rapist get off --- often?? -- Even when guilty.

Am I right?

[Deathcricket]

[quote=Randi]
Geez

[James_B_Wads2000]

Just a little "on guard" lets say from stuff I've been hearing from other members in other threads.

My ears are burning!! :hair:


James

[bruce from bryce]

Tanya,

While agree that these individuals are sick and need to be put away for the rest of their lives, I believe it is wrong to place them in a box that says "BLM' on it.

Yes the locals don't like the people who from out of the area or state, but not everyone who works for them is a pedophile, a sex freak or even the enemy.

I'll bet that investigations shows he has done this before, if not in Kanab, then where he previously worked.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD KILL IF HE HAD MOLESTED THEIR CHILD: as another poster said, you would be depriving your child of the person they so very need at this point in their life.

[tanya]

Bruce... I could not agree more! However the old time population of Kanab has a whole different way of thinking that shocks me. It has taken years for me to accept how they do think, but I finally have. Granted.. not all are that way! But so many. Things are changing as the town grows and new people move in though. There is hope!

It would only make it worse if they know he did it before he came to Kanab. That makes him all the more an 'outsider.' I guess I should not mention any of this, but it just amazes me how the mind set is there.

[bruce from bryce]

No, it is ok to post your thoughts and feelings. How many people from Kanab read the UUtah forum. I can think of only one.

Most of my co-workers are of the Morman faith and yet it doesn't affect me at all. I know how they feel, wonder in some cases why they put up with some of things that go on but just don't let it interfere with my interactions with them.

I realize that sometime in the near future I will be leaving Bryce and when I'm gone they will have not changed and I will be just someone who 'used' to work at Bryce.

[Gutpiler_Utahn]

I can see the different views presented here, but in my eyes, anybody guilty of raping a child needs to make restitution with the only thing he has worth anything to him, his life. I am a full supporter of capitol punishment and believe our society has grown soft in the noodle when it comes to making things right by the victims. If the heart-bleeding liberals want to save these criminals from their fate, then I think the courts should start putting these monsters in the personal care of those who want my tax dollars to put them up and feed them for the rest of their lives. I guarantee that there's not a single one of them, in their right minds, who would take one of these people into their homes, knowing what they are capable of. :soapbox:

I also think they should bring back the firing squad. :rifle: