No wonder kids are growing up to be pussies

[Iceaxe]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - An elementary school has banned tag on its playground after some children complained they were harassed or chased against their will.

"It causes a lot of conflict on the playground," said Cindy Fesgen, assistant principal of the Discovery Canyon Campus school.

Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said.

Fesgen said two parents complained to her about the ban but most parents and children didn't object.

In 2005, two elementary schools in the nearby Falcon School District did away with tag and similar games in favor of alternatives with less physical contact. School officials said the move encouraged more students to play games and helped reduce playground squabbles.

Linky (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070830/D8RBARRG2.html)

You know a little fat kid was crying about this one.

Duck-Duck-Goose, your next!! :haha:

[rockgremlin]

Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"

oh wait -- same thing. :lol8:

[tanya]

:five:

[Alex]

Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"

oh wait -- same thing. :lol8:

LIBERALS are people too, we do have to support them as well.

[hank moon]

Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"

What's a "liberal" (other than "a pussy")

can you give a more rational defintion?

[rockgremlin]

You want me to give a rational definition to my joke? No thanks. If I have to explain it, the humor is lost.

Geez, you're always so serious all the time Hank! You should drink a few beers before reading my posts.

[JP]

Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"

oh wait -- same thing. :lol8:
:lol8: :lol8:


What's a "liberal" (other than "a pussy")

can you give a more rational defintion?
There's more to it than what you already put in quotes?

Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other :roll: Dodge ball: out, tag: out. Hmmmmm, what's next? Sports, I mean after all, they're will be a whole group of losers at one time. I can see the conflict now.


Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"
Not too surprising, most of the educators out there, at this time, are liberal.

[Shan]

WTF? I'd say I'm liberal.

[Iceaxe]

What's a "liberal" (other than "a pussy")

can you give a more rational defintion?

What more do you need to know? :ne_nau:

:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

How about I see ya back here at 6:00 pm.... I want to explain in further detail so I'll get some colorful graphs, bold pie charts and a powerpoint presentation.

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[hank moon]

You want me to give a rational definition to my joke? No thanks. If I have to explain it, the humor is lost.

oh...humor.

i forgot.

some folks think the word "liberal" repeated ad infinitum is funny and/or clever each and every time. uhhuhuhhhaahuhh. "liberal" hey, i guess it is funny@!

let's try "conservative"

hey, uh...conSERVative guy! yeah, you.

you conservative, you.

Damn, youse conservatives are funny-ass people.

Conservative.

Conservatives are the real pussies for supporting the pussiest damn pussyfied admin. this side of history. 10 years from now when the still-unconstructed George W. Bush library of shame is burned to the ground by "conservatives," where will you stand?

better be upwind, 'cuz the ink-smoke from all the redacted documents is gonna be choking.

Nixon: 'I am not a crook'
W: 'I am not a fascist'

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/9bba3672deadbddc4fc9c69d0f9b85672g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=9z3z9l9ajbg&thumb=4)

Maybe you should sober up every now and then before casually lobbing undefined maybe-stereotypes, mr. "moderator"

might hit a target every now and then. the humor bullseye remains pristine!

[hank moon]

What more do you need to know? :ne_nau:

:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:



Hmmm. I think you n' your gremlin should go on tour. obviously frustrated standups, both!

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[rockgremlin]

obviously frustrated standups, both!

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Judging by your colorful and sassy replies, I would say the only one frustrated here is you. Looks like you haven't drank those beers I recommended yet.

Damn! I'm laughing my ass off, and waiting for your next launch into hysterics. I keep dangling that apple, and you keep biting. Irresitible, aint it?

Hello troll police? I'd like to report a violation....

[JP]

Hmmm. I think you n' your gremlin should go on tour. obviously frustrated standups, both!
Frustrated, no; no panties getting all bunched up here asking for a more rational definition of the word liberal. Be proud Hank if you are a Liberal, be proud. :lol8:

[hank moon]

Not too surprising, most of the educators out there, at this time, are liberal.

Wow, more than 3 words and a smilie from the reigning champ of text-bites!

Question: Why don't you ever prove your assertions?

Answer: you can't.


So-called "conservatives" are very fond of tossing the same tired crap out over and over w/o any proof. The liberal media. Liberal educators. Liberal this, liberal that. Well shoot, I guess Georgie must be a liberal now, seeing how he's trampling the law of the land into the muck under a "conservative" banner? A liberal AND a liar. Oh wait, they're the same thing!

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Now that the hilarious humor part is done...

I thought conservatives were supposed to "conserve" stuff like...uh, the American Constitution, rule of law, etc. So...has the meaning of "conservative" changed? Has an Orwellian shift occurred? Seems so. Seems conservatism is now about grabbing power every which way ya can. Especially by squelching dissent with heavy-handed tactics.

Did you know?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4436043

Did you also know?

(from White House manual detailing anti-demostrator tactics)

To counter any demonstrators who do get in, advance teams are told to create "rally squads" of volunteers with large hand-held signs, placards or banners with "favorable messages." Squads should be placed in strategic locations and "at least one squad should be 'roaming' throughout the perimeter of the event to look for potential problems," the manual says.

"These squads should be instructed always to look for demonstrators," it says. "The rally squad's task is to use their signs and banners as shields between the demonstrators and the main press platform. If the demonstrators are yelling, rally squads can begin and lead supportive chants to drown out the protestors (USA!, USA!, USA!). As a last resort, security should remove the demonstrators from the event site."


So...God bless the ACLU for obtaining this secret document.

If "liberal" means

"Not for Bush and his fascist 'rally squads' aks 'goon squads' aka 'brown shirts' then I'm one and proud of it.

however, I'm not for banning tag in public schools...that's not "liberal" - it's igmo. Check out this bestseller from the UK:

http://tinyurl.com/2ms57o

Wonder when the girl edition comes out?

Ahhh. the afternoon rant...now for a double margarita and some homemade salsa...i love vacation.

[Rev. Coyote]

Don't you mean: "No Wonder Kids are Growing up to be LIBERALS?"

oh wait -- same thing. :lol8:

Watch it! I'm a liberal, and think we should allow tag, etc. Jeeze. Oh, and dodgeball.

Who else (and don't get all offended) used to play a game called "smear the queer?" Or "killball" I think was the politically correct name.

[hank moon]

Who else (and don't get all offended) used to play a game called "smear the queer?" Or "killball" I think was the politically correct name.

We called it "kill the man with the ball"

yeah! got a big scar on my head leftover from rowdy game of dodgeball.

Good stuff.

[rockgremlin]

Looking for the Cliffs notes version of Hank's latest blathering disposition. Someone help me out.

Bottom line is, I come here to unwind and have fun. I don't like to get into online fist-fights. I applaud your efforts to bait me into it, but it aint gonna happen. Sorry. Call me conservative, Bush-lover, Arab-killer, Zombie, whatever -- the fact is, I don't care. Water off a duck's back.

[Rev. Coyote]

Looking for the Cliffs notes version of Hank's latest blathering disposition. Someone help me out.

Bottom line is, I come here to unwind and have fun. I don't like to get into online fist-fights. I applaud your efforts to bait me into it, but it aint gonna happen. Sorry. Call me conservative, Bush-lover, Arab-killer, Zombie, whatever -- the fact is, I don't care. Water off a duck's back.

We need an approved list of insults in here, preferably ones that are funny. I'll start. You guys add.

1) Asshat

[hank moon]

Bottom line is, I come here to unwind and have fun. I don't like to get into online fist-fights. I applaud your efforts to bait me into it, but it aint gonna happen. Sorry. Call me conservative, Bush-lover, Arab-killer, Zombie, whatever -- the fact is, I don't care. Water off a duck's back.

:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

i don't care, etc. suuuuure ya don't. That's why you rePLIed, gremmie...'cuz ya don't care.

But i guess you're pretty good at foolin' yourself by now...that's what conSERVatives do best.

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[hank moon]

We need an approved list of insults in here, preferably ones that are funny. I'll start. You guys add.

1) Asshat (by Rev. Coyote)
2) As shat (anonymous)

[Jaxx]

Does every thread have to turn into a political debate?!?!?!? Seriously disgusting.

[hank moon]

Does every thread have to turn into a political debate?!?!?!? Seriously disgusting.

Yep. Moderators set the tone. So long as they keep spraying inappropriate political stereotypes all over the place ("liberals" do this or that), I'll be there to "call their B.S." as Price might say...

[Jaxx]

We need an approved list of insults in here, preferably ones that are funny. I'll start. You guys add.

1) Asshat

3)Butt munch

Although name calling is childish and immature. I am immature so it's ok to contribute names :haha:

[Iceaxe]

Smear the Queer was a wonderful playground game :2thumbs:

Ditto Dodgeball :nod:

[Jaxx]

Does every thread have to turn into a political debate?!?!?!? Seriously disgusting.

Yep. Moderators set the tone. So long as they keep spraying inappropriate political stereotypes all over the place ("liberals" do this or that), I'll be there to "call their B.S." as Price might say...

Don't take things so seriously.
If someone says Liberals are pussies then correct their asses with Conservatives are stupid jocks. Gets them everytime. :roflol:

Nothin but love for you Hank. :2thumbs:

[Rev. Coyote]

Smear the Queer was a wonderful playground game :2thumbs:

Ditto Dodgeball :nod:

Those games are wholesome, all-American, character-building activities. The pussies, however, play little league ball with all the meddlesome rules and parental interferance.


(Think I'll duck...)

[Jaxx]

Smear the Queer was a wonderful playground game :2thumbs:

Ditto Dodgeball :nod:

Smearing the Queer was always funner than being the queer being smeared. :2thumbs:

We used to play tackle football as kids and get in trouble for it. We still played anyways.
If kids don't want to play tag why don't they stop running and ignore the "taggers"? They should have a special padded room supplied with only soft round toys for thos kids that get offended at being tagged play in.
I have found that the public school system is run more by political correctness than common sense.

I'm starting up another group called LETHEMPLAYTAG. Our motto will be "Just let the kids play tag you buzzkills"

GAME. SET. MATCH bitches

[Iceaxe]

A word of warning to parents of candyass kids who don't want to play tag, dodge ball or keep score at youth sporting events.........

When your child becomes an adult and enters the real world my kids will grind them into the ground and stomp on the worthless little turds. My kids have been taught that winning is important. Even more significant my kids have been taught how to win and how to stand up for themselves on the playground without mommy running interference.

The candyass kids are doomed in later life.

nuff said...

:cool2:

[Jaxx]

A word of warning to parents of candyass kids who don't want to play tag, dodge ball or keep score at youth sporting events.........

When your child becomes an adult and enters the real world my kids will grind them into the ground and stomp on the worthless little turds. My kids have been taught that winning is important. Even more significant my kids have been taught how to win and how to stand up for themselves on the playground without mommy running interference.

The candyass kids are doomed in later life.

nuff said...

:cool2:

"Second place is the first loser" :2thumbs:

[rockgremlin]

A word of warning to parents of candyass kids who don't want to play tag, dodge ball or keep score at youth sporting events.........

When your child becomes an adult and enters the real world my kids will grind them into the ground and stomp on the worthless little turds. My kids have been taught that winning is important. Even more significant my kids have been taught how to win and how to stand up for themselves on the playground without mommy running interference.

The candyass kids are doomed in later life.

nuff said...

:cool2:


Straight up truth. And to add to that -- there are many more parentals out there that do the same thing. This is what your kids are up against. Once you get outta high school it's a dogfight to succeed in this life, and there are no holds barred and no playground rules!!

[Sombeech]

It's only a matter of time until somebody gets offended and goes Bush all up in here.

[JP]

Wow, more than 3 words and a smilie from the reigning champ of text-bites!

Question: Why don't you ever prove your assertions?

Answer: you can't.
:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

And I could :lol8: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

[Rev. Coyote]

I thank god everyday for those kids who excelled in high school sports and little league, that they are there to cut my lawn and stock those shelves in WalMart. Takes a strong back.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Straight up truth. And to add to that -- there are many more parentals out there that do the same thing. This is what your kids are up against. Once you get outta high school it's a dogfight to succeed in this life, and there are no holds barred and no playground rules!!

Rock, do you mind defining "success" before you start lobbing those "yankee" bombs out into cyberspace? I think I was offended.

Ya dumb jock.

:roflol:

[CarpeyBiggs]

Also, i should let it be known that in elementary school, I hated playing tag. I spent my time reading the "Hardy Boys" on the swingset. Luckily, the world isn't as fierce as these dumb jocks would have us believe, cuz I'm still gonna kick all their asses in Fantasy Football.

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

[gonzo]

Also, i should let it be known that in elementary school, I hated playing tag. I spent my time reading the "Hardy Boys" on the swingset.

Hardy Boys...right. We all know it was Nancy Drew.

Oh wait...that was me.

[Jaxx]

Also, i should let it be known that in elementary school, I hated playing tag. I spent my time reading the "Hardy Boys" on the swingset. Luckily, the world isn't as fierce as these dumb jocks would have us believe, cuz I'm still gonna kick all their asses in Fantasy Football.

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

:roflol: He comes out swinging.

[Iceaxe]

I spent my time reading the "Hardy Boys" on the swingset.

Some how I already knew this without you saying a word :lol8:

Now where is the alpha dog.... I know he was out playing smear the queer.

:popcorn:

[hank moon]

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

:drool:

[rockgremlin]

Rock, do you mind defining "success" before you start lobbing those "yankee" bombs out into cyberspace? I think I was offended.

Ya dumb jock.

:roflol:


Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! I was wondering when you were gonna rear your ugly head in this convo!

My definition of success is achieving your life goals. Pretty broad define I know. Most people set their goals at having enough $$$ to pay the bills, stay outta debt, and raise a family that is only slightly dysfunctional. That's pretty much where I sit anyways...but what do I know? I'm just a stupid jock! :lol8:

[Rev. Coyote]

I knew a used car dealer once who said, "Success is the continual achievement of worthwhile goals." Fair enough, if a motivational speaker like Max Foley is writing you life story. But open ended enough to include a load of interpretation.

Success? Bliss, however you define it.

[CarpeyBiggs]

My definition of success is achieving your life goals. Pretty broad define I know. Most people set their goals at having enough $$$ to pay the bills, stay outta debt, and raise a family that is only slightly dysfunctional. That's pretty much where I sit anyways...but what do I know? I'm just a stupid jock! :lol8:

Well, there you have it folks. Set your goals low like me, and success is guaranteed! Who needs tag now suckas!

[CarpeyBiggs]

Now where is the alpha dog.... I know he was out playing smear the queer.

:popcorn:

If you are talking about nelsonccc, he is STILL out playing smear the queer somewhere, probably with his brother. Perhaps incurring even more brain damage. Yep, sounds like the alpha to me. :roflol:

[rockgremlin]

Well, there you have it folks. Set your goals low like me, and success is guaranteed! Who needs tag now suckas!

:roflol: You never fail to get a laugh outta me!

[CarpeyBiggs]

Also, who here votes that the Reverend should post a picture of himself. Let's see this man of mystery? Perhaps we can take bets on what he looks like?

I'll offer 20 bucks, and I'm betting 5' 11", 141 pounds, with an unshaven beard, wearing a "Protect Utah's Wilderness" hat, in stained and worn clothes that haven't been washed in a few months, an old plaid button up shirt, and a pocket sized Gideon society bible in his pocket protector.

Anyone else?

[Jaxx]

Also, who here votes that the Reverend should post a picture of himself. Let's see this man of mystery? Perhaps we can take bets on what he looks like?

I'll offer 20 bucks, and I'm betting 5' 11", 141 pounds, with an unshaven beard, wearing a "Protect Utah's Wilderness" hat, in stained and worn clothes that haven't been washed in a few months, an old plaid button up shirt, and a pocket sized Gideon society bible in his pocket protector.

Anyone else?

spot on...

[JP]

He had posted that one pic awhile back, the one of him on stage that was quite blurry :haha:

[CarpeyBiggs]

He had posted that one pic awhile back, the one of him on stage that was quite blurry :haha:

On stage at a Cowboy Poetry event? How did I miss it?

[JP]

How did I miss it?
Hmm, let me dig and see if I can find it.

[sparker1]

Hank, you are a riot. You could replace Leno if you weren't so effing serious about your shit.

[savanna3313]

This thread reminds me of an email sent to me awhile back. I wish I'd kept it, but basically it was an email that targeted people mainly over 40 I would say. We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose (what was bottled water ?) rode in the back of pick up trucks, played in construction sites and got hurt in people's backyards. No one sued their neighbor if your child was hurt on their premises - we were just taken to the doctor, stitched/patched up and sent on our way. I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever. :haha:

We've come a long way in certain areas and it's a big help to those who may not have been given a chance in life. But we've also become a nation of "politically correct" to the point of obsession. When did the voice of a few begin to speak for the majority?

Bottom line.......people just need to lighten up!!! :2thumbs:

Just my 2 cents. Please don't attack me as I will most likely get my feelings hurt.

:popcorn:

[sparker1]

In case you haven't been watching for the past 20 or 30 years, the feminists (not women like Tanya and Savanna) have taken charge. One outcome is that girls are pushed to be more masculine and boys are pushed to be more feminine. I see examples all the time.

[JP]

I see examples all the time.
Here :roflol:

[asdf]

We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose


It turns out some garden hoses may contain dangerous levels of lead. (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Consumer/Story?id=3369894&page=1)

[Rev. Coyote]

Also, who here votes that the Reverend should post a picture of himself. Let's see this man of mystery? Perhaps we can take bets on what he looks like?

I'll offer 20 bucks, and I'm betting 5' 11", 141 pounds, with an unshaven beard, wearing a "Protect Utah's Wilderness" hat, in stained and worn clothes that haven't been washed in a few months, an old plaid button up shirt, and a pocket sized Gideon society bible in his pocket protector.

Anyone else?

I posted a picture a while back -- seek and ye shall find -- it's of me playing guitar between sets at a New Riders of the Purple Sage show at the Aladdin Theater in Portland OR. You come so close to the description is frigging scary!! I'm 5'10", usually between 135-145 lbs., and I shave infrequently since I'm a "telecommuter." Long hair at the moment, but headed for the barber this week or next. I do not own the hat you reference, though, but switch between a straw hat or a Husqvarna chain saw hat (got three Husqys). I don't carry a Bible, nor a pocket protector.

Why this interest in what I look like...?

[Rev. Coyote]

He had posted that one pic awhile back, the one of him on stage that was quite blurry :haha:

On purpose. Like a bigfoot sighting. Plus, I donlt want anyone using my likeness for self-gratification purposes.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Wow, I was close. Just wondering if you fit in the big dumb jock category, or the feeble treehugger category. That's all. I need to know who's on my side when we go fisticuffs with the "alphas."

[Rev. Coyote]

Wow, I was close. Just wondering if you fit in the big dumb jock category, or the feeble treehugger category. That's all. I need to know who's on my side when we go fisticuffs with the "alphas."

Feeble, not sure. I do work out -- but I'm just a small feller. Just gristle and cuss words. Plus, I'm a gunslinger. Compensation, you know. That and a large diesel truck.

[hank moon]

We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose (what was bottled water ?)

Sure, but that was before our most conservative, hyper-Christian, man o' the people, Senor BOOSH ruled that more arsenic in public water supplies is gooood conservative goodness! Hooray for more arsenic!

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:


rode in the back of pick up trucks

still do!


played in construction sites and got hurt in people's backyards.
No one sued their neighbor if your child was hurt on their premises - we were just taken to the doctor, stitched/patched up and sent on our way.

Bet it still happens that way most of the time.


I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever.

Shame on sisters suing sisters!


We've come a long way in certain areas

hmm. what areas would those be? I see mostly regression to a childlike belief that lawyers, politicians, "the market," etc. know what's best for you and me. Bollocks!


When did the voice of a few begin to speak for the majority?

Since the day you became aware it was happening and did nothing about it.


Bottom line.......people just need to lighten up!!!

Au contraire. Folks should get a bit more serious about the things they *truly* care about. Are we all gonna keep whining forever about lawyers, politicians, insurance, health care, the environment, prayer in school, education system, abortion, etc. without doing anything about it?

Anyhow, "lightening up" probably isn't an effective strategy for shaking things up.



Just my 2 cents. Please don't attack me as I will most likely get my feelings hurt.

i trust you will understand this was not an attack on you, but a commentary on the (apparent) beliefs and attitudes expressed. Is that politically correct? :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

[hank moon]

In case you haven't been watching for the past 20 or 30 years, the feminists (not women like Tanya and Savanna) have taken charge. One outcome is that girls are pushed to be more masculine and boys are pushed to be more feminine. I see examples all the time.

taken charge of what?

Pushed by whom?

What examples?

No comprendo. :rockon:

[hank moon]

Why this interest in what I look like...?

Rev, ain't it obvious? They want to know what a pussy looks like.

[Rev. Coyote]

Rev, ain't it obvious? They want to know what a pussy looks like.

Awww shit, Hank, DON'T tempt me! DO NOT. The picture I will easily find and post will get me thrown off the board.

[tanya]

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

:drool:


I REALLY want to hear THIS story!

[tanya]

This thread reminds me of an email sent to me awhile back. I wish I'd kept it, but basically it was an email that targeted people mainly over 40 I would say. We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose (what was bottled water ?) rode in the back of pick up trucks, played in construction sites and got hurt in people's backyards. No one sued their neighbor if your child was hurt on their premises - we were just taken to the doctor, stitched/patched up and sent on our way. I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever. :haha:

We've come a long way in certain areas and it's a big help to those who may not have been given a chance in life. But we've also become a nation of "politically correct" to the point of obsession. When did the voice of a few begin to speak for the majority?

Bottom line.......people just need to lighten up!!! :2thumbs:

Just my 2 cents. Please don't attack me as I will most likely get my feelings hurt.

:popcorn:


And.. if anyone attacks Savanna, I would attack them. :five: :lol8:

[tanya]

In case you haven't been watching for the past 20 or 30 years, the feminists (not women like Tanya and Savanna) have taken charge. One outcome is that girls are pushed to be more masculine and boys are pushed to be more feminine. I see examples all the time.


Men should be MEN!!!!!! ..... but then I was at the Olympic level in Judo until 1992... so I do push men... but NEVER to be more feminine, just to be WAY WAY tougher than me!!!! :popcorn:

[hank moon]

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

:drool:


I REALLY want to hear THIS story!

Ditter. Biggie? Don't drop the ball here, maaaaan!

[JP]

-- seek and ye shall find --
Found it :nod: This one won't get ya kicked outta here :mrgreen:

http://uutah.com/forum/files/p1010160_1.jpg

[gonzo]

Au contraire. Folks should get a bit more serious about the things they *truly* care about. Are we all gonna keep whining forever about lawyers, politicians, insurance, health care, the environment, prayer in school, education system, abortion, etc. without doing anything about it?

Anyhow, "lightening up" probably isn't an effective strategy for shaking things up.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "Stop Bitching, Start a Revolution".

It's been a good 40 years since the last one. It might be high time for another.

[savanna3313]

This thread reminds me of an email sent to me awhile back. I wish I'd kept it, but basically it was an email that targeted people mainly over 40 I would say. We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose (what was bottled water ?) rode in the back of pick up trucks, played in construction sites and got hurt in people's backyards. No one sued their neighbor if your child was hurt on their premises - we were just taken to the doctor, stitched/patched up and sent on our way. I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever. :haha:

We've come a long way in certain areas and it's a big help to those who may not have been given a chance in life. But we've also become a nation of "politically correct" to the point of obsession. When did the voice of a few begin to speak for the majority?

Bottom line.......people just need to lighten up!!! :2thumbs:

Just my 2 cents. Please don't attack me as I will most likely get my feelings hurt.

:popcorn:


And.. if anyone attacks Savanna, I would attack them. :five: :lol8:

Thanks girl! :five:

[savanna3313]

I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever.

Shame on sisters suing sisters!

Anyhow, "lightening up" probably isn't an effective strategy for shaking things up.





I meant (in regards to the swing/suing) that most parents today would be suing the school because of the fall.

In regards to "lightening up" ......well, I just feel that people take life, themselves and other people way too seriously at times. I think we need to take a deep breath, not be so full of ourselves (we're only human - right?) and instead of making so much noise about what's wrong and needing to do something to fix things, etc., actually get out there and (like Nike says) just do it.

:popcorn:

[Rev. Coyote]

-- seek and ye shall find --
Found it :nod: This one won't get ya kicked outta here

Thanks! I had no luck at all in finding that. That was a really fun night, by the way. The backstage scene with NRPS was just a barrell of monkeys.

[packfish]

I thank god everyday for those kids who excelled in high school sports and little league, that they are there to cut my lawn and stock those shelves in WalMart. Takes a strong back.

Hey- x college jock here- taking offense to that. Seriously I knew many that had the IQ of Hillary- er door knob. And I also knew many that are now setting the pace for the rest of us in all aspects of life. Kids need to know how to win and how to lose and these games provide that experience.

[Rev. Coyote]

Hey- x college jock here- taking offense to that. Seriously I knew many that had the IQ of Hillary- er door knob. And I also knew many that are now setting the pace for the rest of us in all aspects of life. Kids need to know how to win and how to lose and these games provide that experience.

One of the biggest concentrations of mo-rons I ever met was in college.

Today's kids learn about winning and losing through that dang blasted newfangled x-box contraption.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Hey- x college jock here- taking offense to that. Seriously I knew many that had the IQ of Hillary- er door knob. And I also knew many that are now setting the pace for the rest of us in all aspects of life. Kids need to know how to win and how to lose and these games provide that experience.

Nah, life ain't about winning and losing. Who are we competing against? You? Me? Everyone? Damned yankee values...

[CarpeyBiggs]

Ditter. Biggie? Don't drop the ball here, maaaaan!

I think I embarrassed Ice enough for this month by releasing the sausage picture. Plus, he's fun to do canyons with, and I don't want to lose the right to his company in the future. :haha:

Perhaps if you manned up Hank and did some canyons with me, we could swap stories. :roflol:

:popcorn:

[Iceaxe]

Also, let's not forget who saved your life in Pine Creek a few weeks back, Ice.

:drool:


I REALLY want to hear THIS story!

DITTO!!! I'd love to hear this story.

:popcorn:

[packfish]

Nah, life ain't about winning and losing. Who are we competing against? You? Me? Everyone? Damned yankee values...
_________________

You don't have to win but you do need to make that effort and you do need to know how to lose anything else and you might as well be named Pierre. I listen to some doctor a few nights ago about how kids shouldn't be given grades and everyone should get a passing grade. That guy isn't going ot be teaching my kids.

[CarpeyBiggs]

Ah man, I hate peer pressure, but since Shane wants to hear it, it went down something like this....

We are the last rap station in Pine Creek. We have my 200 foot rope, and another 60. Only problem, i don't have my 200 marked in the middle. So Shane is setting up the last rap, and wondering if there is enough rope. I say yeah, but we can go down on a block single strand and set the length to be sure. Well, Shane isn't a big fan of rappelling, especially single strand. But he sets the block up, tosses the rope, and starts the cautious slide over the edge.

As the last inch of his ass slides off into space, he frantically yells up to me. "Dan, help me! Grab my backpack!!!"

I, wondering what in the hell could warrant this girly screaming, clip into the anchor and look over to see Shane in near tears about a foot down the rope.

"Dan, grab my backpack, pull me up. Something ain't right." he stutters.

I lean over and use my "ain't-never-played-tag-in-my-life" strength to pull his alpha-male self back up on the ledge, and ask him what in the hell is going on. He's not sure, except for the fact that he knew something was wrong. I double check his rig, harness, etc... Everything looks good, except the unlocked biner used on the block. I locked her down, pulled out a few feet of slack, gave him a nice kick in the back and sent him flying down the rappel and yelled "See you at the bottom, pussy!"

I'm trying to be as modest about the event as possible, but it ain't easy being a hero. In fact, I didn't want to tell the story, but since Shane insisted, that's how it happened. No lie.

[Iceaxe]

The story sounds about right..... EXCEPT..... Dan never locked the biner until.... AFTER.... I rapped down..... then Dan followed and casually mentioned..... ya know, you forgot to lock the biner you used as a block.

And I like to think the scream was a manly scream delivered in a high pitch :haha:

:popcorn:

[hank moon]

instead of making so much noise about what's wrong and needing to do something to fix things, etc., actually get out there and (like Nike says) just do it.

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[CarpeyBiggs]

The story sounds about right..... EXCEPT..... Dan never locked the biner until.... AFTER.... I rapped down..... then Dan followed and casually mentioned..... ya know, you forgot to lock the biner you used as a block.

I stand corrected. I actually never rapped on the biner block either. I went down double strand. And I never really double checked his rig at all. I just told him to quit being a girl. You set the rap, you go first. The rules are simple. Then I kicked him in the back, sending him down the rap.

[Iceaxe]

I just told him to quit being a girl. You set the rap, you go first.

The truth finally comes out.... :lol8:

[hank moon]

<pdba>

[tanya]

This thread reminds me of an email sent to me awhile back. I wish I'd kept it, but basically it was an email that targeted people mainly over 40 I would say. We did things growing up like drinking from a back yard hose (what was bottled water ?) rode in the back of pick up trucks, played in construction sites and got hurt in people's backyards. No one sued their neighbor if your child was hurt on their premises - we were just taken to the doctor, stitched/patched up and sent on our way. I remember pushing my sister on a school swing and she let go (she was way too high to do that......not MY fault at all though) :ne_nau: and landed on her arm and broke it. Nowadays, the law suit would be immediate, the swing she fell from would be removed and recess as we once knew it would be eliminated forever. :haha:

We've come a long way in certain areas and it's a big help to those who may not have been given a chance in life. But we've also become a nation of "politically correct" to the point of obsession. When did the voice of a few begin to speak for the majority?

Bottom line.......people just need to lighten up!!! :2thumbs:

Just my 2 cents. Please don't attack me as I will most likely get my feelings hurt.

:popcorn:


And.. if anyone attacks Savanna, I would attack them. :five: :lol8:

Thanks girl! :five:

Anytime! Everytime! :five:

[tanya]

Ditter. Biggie? Don't drop the ball here, maaaaan!

I think I embarrassed Ice enough for this month by releasing the sausage picture. Plus, he's fun to do canyons with, and I don't want to lose the right to his company in the future. :haha:

Perhaps if you manned up Hank and did some canyons with me, we could swap stories. :roflol:

:popcorn:


I must ARGUE! :eek2: You have not embarrassed ICE anywhere enough yet. :)
Please continue :nod:

[tanya]

Ah man, I hate peer pressure, but since Shane wants to hear it, it went down something like this....

We are the last rap station in Pine Creek. We have my 200 foot rope, and another 60. Only problem, i don't have my 200 marked in the middle. So Shane is setting up the last rap, and wondering if there is enough rope. I say yeah, but we can go down on a block single strand and set the length to be sure. Well, Shane isn't a big fan of rappelling, especially single strand. But he sets the block up, tosses the rope, and starts the cautious slide over the edge.

As the last inch of his ass slides off into space, he frantically yells up to me. "Dan, help me! Grab my backpack!!!"

I, wondering what in the hell could warrant this girly screaming, clip into the anchor and look over to see Shane in near tears about a foot down the rope.

"Dan, grab my backpack, pull me up. Something ain't right." he stutters.

I lean over and use my "ain't-never-played-tag-in-my-life" strength to pull his alpha-male self back up on the ledge, and ask him what in the hell is going on. He's not sure, except for the fact that he knew something was wrong. I double check his rig, harness, etc... Everything looks good, except the unlocked biner used on the block. I locked her down, pulled out a few feet of slack, gave him a nice kick in the back and sent him flying down the rappel and yelled "See you at the bottom, pussy!"

I'm trying to be as modest about the event as possible, but it ain't easy being a hero. In fact, I didn't want to tell the story, but since Shane insisted, that's how it happened. No lie.

Hero and wonderful storyteller to boot! :2thumbs:

[tanya]

The story sounds about right..... EXCEPT..... Dan never locked the biner until.... AFTER.... I rapped down..... then Dan followed and casually mentioned..... ya know, you forgot to lock the biner you used as a block.

And I like to think the scream was a manly scream delivered in a high pitch :haha:

:popcorn:


Shane usually has his mind in the stripper bar, so I assume he just woke up for his dreams and found he was on some rope and freaked out. :haha:

[hank moon]

I must ARGUE! :eek2: You have not embarrassed ICE anywhere enough yet. :)Please continue :nod:

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[DaveOU812]

Just cause your my favorite person on this forum. :roll:

[tanya]

I must ARGUE! :eek2: You have not embarrassed ICE anywhere enough yet. :)Please continue :nod:

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I meant this in the most affectionate way of course! :nod:

[hank moon]

Just cause your my favorite person on this forum. :roll:

Nice gesture - but it's a merkin!

[DaveOU812]

Wow, someone went to private school. :flamer:

[Brian in SLC]

The candyass kids are doomed in later life.

Columbine.

Nuff said.

-Brian in SLC

http://www.smh.com.au/news/books/revenge-of-the-bullied/2007/04/15/1176575667878.html

http://www.angriesout.com/schoolviolence/pg1.htm

[Iceaxe]

Columbine.

Nuff said.


So your saying that eliminating tag from grammer school would have stopped Columbine?

:roll:

Or are you saying that if tag had of been mandatory in grammar school Columbine would not have happened.

:ne_nau:

There are bullies in adult life.... sooner a kid learns to deal with it the better.... IMHO... A parents job is to teach the kid the proper way to deal with the situation..... not put the kid in a bubble.... again, IMHO.

:popcorn:

[Brian in SLC]

So your saying that eliminating tag from grammer school would have stopped Columbine?
There are bullies in adult life.... sooner a kid learns to deal with it the better.... IMHO... A parents job is to teach the kid the proper way to deal with the situation..... not put the kid in a bubble.... again, IMHO.

Nope. Tag by itself isn't an issue, methinks.

The bullying might be.

Some of these kids don't take a shine to it, it seems. See it in the headlines all the time:


Gunman may have taken revenge for bullying
STEPHEN MCGINTY
THE gunman behind the Virginia Tech massacre killed two pupils who had attended his high school - where he was bullied, mocked over his shyness and told to "go back to China".

Yeah, these kids are dealing with it all right.

What's kind of frightening to me, is, have you been in a gun store recently? Go hang out in "get some" for awhile for instance. Its amazing how many kids go in there and drool over the high end assault stuff. What do you think their motive is?

Watch'd a "kid" buy a Glock the other day. Barely 21. Just ponied up the cash and woulda bought a couple had he the space on his credit card.

Sure, there's parenting. Some parents seem to like to instill that bullying is ok, a sign of some macho superiority. Maybe even make derisive and derogotory statements about the state of kids today.

So, what is the proper response that a parent teaches their kid in response to a bully?

I dunno. When I was a kid, we settled our issues mano a mano in the playground, ala fisticuffs, or, usually, a "raslin'" match. Roll around in the dirt a bit. Maybe someone squirts a few tears. Then, it was usually make up and move on. Now a days, kids seem to be more viciously violent. More prone to weapon use. It was unheard of to take a gun or knife to school when I was a kid. Now, they have metal detectors. Crazy.

When you're weaker, physically, and get picked on, and your peer group thinks its funny, just what is the response? Be tough to be the weakling. And, there doesn't seem to be many standing up for them, its seems.

I dunno. Revenge is a strong motivator for being picked on.

No wonder some folks hate high school, or jr high.

Honor and respect: conservative values? Maybe less so than picking on folks who try to do something about bullies.

I didn't get picked on much in school. Some, though. Was usually bigger and stronger than most of the school bullies. Don't recall being a bully myself, at least, I don't remember any time where I was, except maybe the standard freshman hazing stuff, which was pretty mild, really, and not mean spirited. Ok, I remember some "melvins" or "georging" being done to others. But they deserved it (ha!). And I always felt like we were friends later on. Was kind of a weird peer group as I hung out with the nerds and jocks, both, as I knew the nerds from class and the jocks from sports. I do remember the bullies and the bullied though. Damn, some kids were mean. And some took it and took it. And, there was nothiing better than when a bully pushed someone too far, and, picked on the wrong kid.

Crazy stuff to think about...interesting social commentary...

-Brian in SLC

[Jaxx]

If bullying was the problem shouldn't they deal with that directly instead. Just because tag stopped doesn't mean the kids will stop bullying. They need to punish the kids for bullying not just for bullying during certain situations.

[Iceaxe]

Now a days, kids seem to be more viciously violent. More prone to weapon use.

Let's put the blame where it belongs..... it's all the fault of rap music, R rated movies and video games. :nod:

:haha:

The way I see it parents need to get back to parenting.... and since you brought up the good ol' days.... I hate to think what would have happened if my father had caught me taking a gun to school.... but then again, my dad bought me my first 22 when I was 10. A shotgun when I was 12 and I owned a high powered rifle at 14. All with my fathers blessing....

Blaming tag or duck-duck-goose for poor values is ridiculous.

:popcorn:

[Jaxx]

Blaming tag or duck-duck-goose for poor values is ridiculous.

/thread

[Brian in SLC]

The way I see it parents need to get back to parenting.... and since you brought up the good ol' days.... I hate to think what would have happened if my father had caught me taking a gun to school.... but then again, my dad bought me my first 22 when I was 10. A shotgun when I was 12 and I owned a high powered rifle at 14. All with my fathers blessing....

Ditto that. But, I also knew how he felt about dealing with bullies, too. And, there was no way we were going to have that conversation.

You can hunt in Montana at 12. Ruger 30-06 for my 12th birthday, of course. Shot my first 12 guage at 5 years old, and dad's '06 at 5, which bummed mom out a tad, since I had "scope kiss" eye in my kindergarten pic's. Still have the scar. Too funny.


Blaming tag or duck-duck-goose for poor values is ridiculous.

Sure, if thats all.

I remember with clarity, in 5th grade, that "tag" was banned for recess at my school. It had gotton WAY too out a hand. Came back in time, but, got so rough that the school had to do something about it. Was a bit bummed for awhile and had to go back to burnin' ants with my magnifying glass...

Of course, my fourth grade teacher was the wife of our senator at the time, and, he was a Democrat...so...no wonder...ha ha.

-Brian in SLC

[Iceaxe]

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[JP]

There are bullies in adult life.... sooner a kid learns to deal with it the better.... IMHO... A parents job is to teach the kid the proper way to deal with the situation..... not put the kid in a bubble.... again, IMHO.
:nod: