Light in Narrow Spaces

[stefan]

y'all can probably guess what this one's all about ...


Bigg Spyre Canyon
http://www.math.utah.edu/%7Esfolias/sc/spyre.jpg

[sparker1]

I'll play. Does it have to be in Utah? This is Lower Antelope Canyon.

[stefan]

nope ... just a narrow space


lovely :2thumbs:

[stefan]

so, this image is taken from a video eric (shaggy) made on trip a bit back.
i stitched together about 5-6 frames from the video. had a bit of stretching
going on, since the camera actually shifts location during the pan


Your Fault Canyon
http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/sc/yourfault.jpg

[Jaxx]

Main Fork of Blue John

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/jaxpb03/BJC%20Horseshoe%20Canyon/NarrowsinBJC.jpg

[stefan]

Shimrock Canyon
http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/sc/lep.jpg

[CarpeyBiggs]

High Spur

http://www.danransom.com/blog/images/20070408213059_innerchamber.jpg

[americanhero]

I like narrow spaces and slot canyons. So here is one of my favorite pics


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s140/americanhero_auf_reisen/Reisebericht%20Desert%20Solitudes/comp_3005.07229.jpg



Lower Antelope Canyon

[Win]

Clear Creek, Zion N.P.

Win

http://www.fototime.com/D11D7B316552AB0/standard.jpg

[goofball]

b/w study of iron wash

[waltny]

b/w study of iron wash

Wow, this is one is really striking :2thumbs:

[James_B_Wads2000]

Not as good as you pros, but one of my most favorite pics.

Upper Chute canyon just above Baptist confluence.


James

[stefan]

glowing subway, wiggum gulch
http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/sc/wiggum.jpg

[Randi]

b/w study of iron wash

WOW Jason! That's an incredible picture!
I LOVE it! :2thumbs:

~Randi

[goofball]

b/w study of iron wash

WOW Jason! That's an incredible picture!
I LOVE it! :2thumbs:

~Randi

thank you.

and here is one for you from lower long canyon -

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/24971/2428125770044057460S600x600Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2428125770044057460OwGJpU)

[stefan]

b/w study of iron wash

WOW Jason! That's an incredible picture!
I LOVE it! :2thumbs:

~Randi

yeah no kiddin' ... you framing that one goofball?

[stefan]

[b]wingate falls, cha canyon

[goofball]

b/w study of iron wash

WOW Jason! That's an incredible picture!
I LOVE it! :2thumbs:

~Randi

yeah no kiddin' ... you framing that one goofball?

being a slave to perfection and an uber critic of (especially) my own work, that one will always let me down. teh depth of field isn't there to satisfy me as the far side is not sharp enough to blow up big. landscapes need to be BIG prints in my mind. gives me fuel for a return trip ! as if anything more than the beauty and fun of it is needed.

aside - i saw an exhibit of moran's work at gilcrease museum in tulsa a few times when it came thru years ago. some of his works took up whole walls in large rooms. incredible... i almost got the feeling i was there, in the image, as it nearly filled the whole of my vision. words cannot describe...

[Cirrus2000]

My favourite "light in a narrow space" shot. Buckskin Gulch, March '07. This photo always takes me to a serene, peaceful place.

http://kev.cirruswebsolutions.ca/uutah/imgp2679.jpg

[Cirrus2000]

Another fave. Spooky Gulch, October '07

http://kev.cirruswebsolutions.ca/uutah/sany0994.jpg

[CarpeyBiggs]

being a slave to perfection and an uber critic of (especially) my own work, that one will always let me down. teh depth of field isn't there to satisfy me as the far side is not sharp enough to blow up big. landscapes need to be BIG prints in my mind. gives me fuel for a return trip ! as if anything more than the beauty and fun of it is needed.

Interesting perspective. Personally, I would have no fear in framing that big, despite the technical qualities you seem to think might be lacking. Landscapes should be printed large, but they need to be judged by their entirety. For me, I like images that stand out on there own, regardless of their technical qualities. A great picture isn't necessarily made by certain criteria met, it is made by a photographer interpreting the scene with the tools at his disposal. By their nature, photographs are always imperfect. Or at best, always subjectively examined. At least, that's what I like to think.

IMO, there is way too much judging of photographs today by their technical merit. Unfortunately, I think it is too easy to miss the real power of an image, and instead look at images and think "oh, if only that corner was in better focus, it would be superb." It's always easier to meet the "technical" criteria of an image, because that criteria is defined and measurable, and quite frankly, always attainable if desired. But it's the intangible and unmeasurable qualities that make for great images.

So, that's my opinion. I'm sure there are many who won't agree. But for what it's worth, I think that image would be mighty powerful hanging on my wall in a nice large print. If you blow it up big, and take a step back to take it all in, I would bet 99 percent of all people could care less about that corner being out of focus....

Anyways, great shot. :2thumbs:

[sparker1]

Another fave. Spooky Gulch, October '07

http://kev.cirruswebsolutions.ca/uutah/sany0994.jpg

Very nice, Kev. I love the texture.

[fouristhenewone]

Here are a couple from Little Wild Horse I like a lot.

[asdf]

Cirrus2000 - I really like the pic of spooky.
fouristhenewone - It looks like her head is glowing.. was this the trip right after the big storm in Oct?

Two from Crawford Draw.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/1645142451_0cb0c3ccc8.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/summit42/1645142451/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/298713218_a97a006229.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/summit42/298713218/)

[fouristhenewone]

it's from the trip we took with you. you had to bail early, I believe cause Lanik was sick.

[R]

I am heading back to the Swell soon, so I hope to have more for this tread. In the mean time, Little Wild Horse...

http://www.richardbarron.net/galleries/anytrail/lwhc/LWHC14.jpg

-R

[goofball]

being a slave to perfection and an uber critic of (especially) my own work, that one will always let me down. teh depth of field isn't there to satisfy me as the far side is not sharp enough to blow up big. landscapes need to be BIG prints in my mind. gives me fuel for a return trip ! as if anything more than the beauty and fun of it is needed.

Interesting perspective. Personally, I would have no fear in framing that big, despite the technical qualities you seem to think might be lacking. Landscapes should be printed large, but they need to be judged by their entirety. For me, I like images that stand out on there own, regardless of their technical qualities. A great picture isn't necessarily made by certain criteria met, it is made by a photographer interpreting the scene with the tools at his disposal. By their nature, photographs are always imperfect. Or at best, always subjectively examined. At least, that's what I like to think.

IMO, there is way too much judging of photographs today by their technical merit. Unfortunately, I think it is too easy to miss the real power of an image, and instead look at images and think "oh, if only that corner was in better focus, it would be superb." It's always easier to meet the "technical" criteria of an image, because that criteria is defined and measurable, and quite frankly, always attainable if desired. But it's the intangible and unmeasurable qualities that make for great images.

So, that's my opinion. I'm sure there are many who won't agree. But for what it's worth, I think that image would be mighty powerful hanging on my wall in a nice large print. If you blow it up big, and take a step back to take it all in, I would bet 99 percent of all people could care less about that corner being out of focus....

Anyways, great shot. :2thumbs:

i hear ya.

and i totally agree on the undue weight afforded technical criteria. to the naked eye, i dare anyone to tell which of 2 images was shot w/ one camera or another, or what film or software was used. mostly, the viewer colud not care less, but as artists it is easy to play favorites and think the work flow we develop is the pinnacle of artistic achievement.

i like to think i am a balance of the technical and the aesthetic. i realized after reading my post again that at proper viewing distance, that corner would look just fine. i spent many years perfecting my craft in the wet darkroom and as a lab tech w/ MANY verrrry picky commercial photographers. the technical aspect has to be understood. just as painters have to knoiw how to use a brush and illustrators a pen. each medium has its own qualitys that must be understood, or else results will be intermittently acceptable. i have heard people say, in response to things such as bellows extension factor, that they "do not believe in that stuff". wtf ? physics ? they do not believe in physics ? if i want teh same result time after time after time, and right the FIRST time, i understand the b-e-f so i can shoot once and have it ready for my client later that day or the next. efficiency and reliability are a must in commercial work. once all that painstaking technical knowledge is achieved it does get pushed back more, but it is always a factor in how we achieve the look we each want to please our aesthetic.

and me ? i'm a slave to tack sharp, corner to corner, and dynamic range tucked in nicely between my 11 zones. my one and only shortcoming :roflol:

[asdf]

following the LWHC theme .....
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/1728471400_636f5c074e.jpg

[sparker1]

Summit, you've got a great collection of slot shots. :hail2thechief:

[asdf]

Moonshine Wash
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2417/1973612376_a6583796d6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/summit42/1973612376/)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/1973605854_b382267b26.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/summit42/1973605854/)

[R]

A little ways up Dang Canyon in the Swell last week...

http://myweb.cableone.net/abbysm/pix/ding01.jpg

-Richard

[Scott Card]

That is cool. It is a little M.C. Escher (sp.?) like in that it appears vertical at the bottom then shifts to a horizontal perspective at the top. Interesting indeed.

[shaggy125]

Stupid web site, keeping me from my homework, ok here are a couple of mine then it's time for my chemistry quiz.

[shaggy125]

A few more

[Win]

Our friend from MI, Nikki, in Willis Creek.

Win

http://www.fototime.com/03F12A2D13E1320/standard.jpg

[Win]

My wife and our friend in a short canyon off Burr Trail Rd.

Win

http://www.fototime.com/6E35D47ADBF02A2/standard.jpg

[sparker1]

I've been in that short canyon on Burr Trail.

[goofball]

bw waterpocket fold study.

[trackrunner]

Here is my token slot pic of Kanarraville Canyon. Not a drool worthy camera :slobber: as some on here; but I like it. My other half steped into frame to look at the sandstone, so I photoshoped her out. :lol8:

[goofball]

been awhile since anything new hit here.

[jiffers]

no kidding canyon

[stefan]

lovely shot

this is from goofball's no kidding?

[jiffers]

lovely shot

this is from goofball's no kidding?


I believe it is.

[stefan]

nice!! : :gents:

[shaggy125]

Oops, posted these in the S. Utah thread, meant to put them here. A few shots

[goofball]

very pretty shaggy.

no location tho. is it secret canyon, south of not-gonna-tell-you knoll ?

[shaggy125]

very pretty shaggy.

no location tho. is it secret canyon, south of not-gonna-tell-you knoll ?

Ya, something like that, not my beta to broadband. Wasn't sure if anyone would be pissed for posting the photos so I just threw a couple up in the dark room rather than doing a TR. It was my first time taking my SLR through a canyon so I got a little excited about sharing I guess.

[stefan]

they look great, eric :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

[goofball]

very pretty shaggy.

no location tho. is it secret canyon, south of not-gonna-tell-you knoll ?

Ya, something like that, not my beta to broadband. Wasn't sure if anyone would be pissed for posting the photos so I just threw a couple up in the dark room rather than doing a TR. It was my first time taking my SLR through a canyon so I got a little excited about sharing I guess.

oh boy ! you are a brave man to spurn the circle of worthiness by teasign the lowly common masses w/ such a secret sight. now other people may want to enjoy it as well based on those very tantalizing pictures, but alas ! they shall have to wait until deemed worthy. gotta reign that sharing impulse in...

this is gonna be bigger than the great chambers debaucle.

:roll:

just keep the flash off on that camera and you'll kepp gettign great pics like those. :2thumbs:

[Scott P]

Nice pics in the album.

Todd Martin took this one of me in Stone Donkey Canyon:

http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/398167.jpg

[shaggy125]

I LOVE that one Scott, Todd has some amazing pics, and that is one of his best!

[asdf]

Farnsworth Canyon, San Rafael Swell.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2915449080_4f77be7776_b.jpg

[accadacca]

Farnsworth Canyon, San Rafael Swell.
Nice. That reminds me of a shot I have from LWH canyon in the swell.

[Jaxx]

Nice one Summit. Good to see you around again, I have been missing your TRs.

[asdf]

Nice one Summit.
Thanks Jaxx.
I have been pretty busy.

From a recent trip to my favorite Canyon in the Swell.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2464830125_425cd6a6fa.jpg

[Jaxx]

looks like a Zion canyon.

[asdf]

Yet its not...
Two more from the same canyon.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2465397642_0416ee691d.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2465660172_2f5ab1f4db.jpg

[DWayne27]

so- in the beginning of the water album, people have given some good tips and advice for getting sweet shots of water.
anyone have some good advice on how to make sure you are getting good shots in a slot? i hate coming home to find the awesome section of dark narrows is way to blurry or covered in little dust spots. this weekend will be the first chance i have to take my new camera into a canyon.
any tips on getting the good shots in a dark section? or when you have a cool section of narrows that are sunny with lots of cool- is there a good tip of getting the narrows and a section of sky that isnt completely washed out?

[JP]

The dust spots are showing up because the flash built into or directly on the camera. The light is just bouncing back off of the dust. If you have an off camera flash and flashing from points not inline with the camera would help. Of course if you shut off the flash and take a picture in the darker conditions that would require a flash, the shutter stays open longer to gather more light, in which you cannot hold it steady enough causing the blurry shots. Something like a tripod would be useful, just not practicable for what you guys are doing. More crap to lug around with ya.

Photoshop can help you with those dust particles. :haha:

[stefan]

`'

[asdf]

damn Stefan those colors are sick

[stefan]

many thanks, summit!

when i turned the camera on before the canyon it said 'battery depleted' and i had no way of charging the battery. i figured i would only be able to take photos in one location in the entire canyon, so i waited for the best moment. this was the only part of the canyon which was illuminated like this during our descent and knew i had to try. fortunately i got it, because after a few photos here, the camera would instantly turn off.

[Robert Lefkow]

Here are a few of my slot canyon shots. My favorite places to shoot.

The Narrows:

[Robert Lefkow]

Paria

[Robert Lefkow]

Buckskin

[Robert Lefkow]

Zebra

[Robert Lefkow]

Last One for Now:

Keyhole Canyon Iceflow

[Wild One]

not sure what to say after those Robert except perhaps :hail2thechief:

the texture in the one from Paria is sick. And that Iceflow in keyhole is absolutely original. Never seen that photographed before. totally awesome!

[uintahiker]

Summit- that canyon kindof looks like crack canyon. Just a guess...

[asdf]

Summit- that canyon kindof looks like crack canyon. Just a guess...

Its upper Eardley

[xjblue]

Still some good photos showing up in this thread.

https://live.staticflickr.com/540/32432565985_c9c2a98409_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RpXnWa)
Joint Trail Light (https://flic.kr/p/RpXnWa) by Jared Payne (https://www.flickr.com/photos/8617045@N06/), on Flickr

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Tunnel

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Enter Curve (https://flic.kr/p/2jN1zLR) by Jared Payne (https://www.flickr.com/photos/8617045@N06/), on Flickr
Big Horn

[kiwi_outdoors]

top quality thread :-)

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top quality thread :-)
Yes, it was a nice thread to bring back to the top

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