View Full Version : Woman Arrested While Helping Translate for Accident Victim
Sombeech
07-31-2007, 09:14 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=333&sid=1560083
A good Samaritan trying to help the police ended up in handcuffs herself last week in Brunswick, New Jersey.
Monica Montoya was one of the first on the scene after a woman who didn't speak English was struck by a car.
Montoya, who works at a Dunkin Donuts down the block from the accident scene gave the bleeding woman a tissue, helped her call a relative, and as the videotape from the police cruiser camera shows, stuck around for almost 20 minutes.
When she realized she would be late to pick up her six year old daughter from her first day of summer school, she asked for a phone.
"I told the police I need call somebody to pick up my baby because it's my responsibility, nobody knows where the school is," said Montoya.
She says when none of the officers would give her a phone, she walked over to the crowd gathered at the scene to ask to borrow one.
That's when officer Harold Breuninger went after her.
His official report says she was irrational, trying to leave the scene, and that she was a danger to herself and to him.
"This police officer 's actions were illegal, irrational and brutal," said Martin Perez, Monica Montoya's lawyer.
She says she's traumatized now, afraid of police...and Officer Breuninger, who is a regular at Dunkin Donuts where she works.
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CarpeyBiggs
07-31-2007, 09:28 AM
She says she's traumatized now, afraid of police...and Officer Breuninger, who is a regular at Dunkin Donuts where she works.
:roflol:
rockgremlin
07-31-2007, 09:41 AM
See what I mean? Typical cops...always blowing things waaaaaaaaay out of proportion in order to write citations and therefore bump their quotas.
MY T PIMP
07-31-2007, 10:45 AM
See what I mean? Typical cops...always blowing things waaaaaaaaay out of proportion in order to write citations and therefore bump their quotas.
I agree, just today as I was heading into Salt Lake from Layton I counted at least 5 Hwy patrol cars who had pulled someone over in the north bound lanes of I-15, while the south bound lanes which clearly has 5-10 times the traffic were absent of the troopers. Even though there are many reckless drivers, who tailgate, cut off, impede the fast lane, and just drive terribly unsafe for the congested conditions South bound every morning, the troopers would rather camp out on the northbound and nail people for going 10 over. It pisses me off! I see it every morning, but clearly it's easy money and less work for the officers to pray on the lest congested north bound.
She says she's traumatized now, afraid of police...and Officer Breuninger, who is a regular at Dunkin Donuts where she works.
:roflol:
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
donny h
07-31-2007, 12:10 PM
No good deed goes unpunished, particularly when New Jersey law enforcement is involved.
If there is video of her being irrational, then let's see it.
opskmallory
08-01-2007, 07:18 AM
If there is video of her being irrational, then let's see it.
Agreed. I'd be curious to know how out of control she was that it justified a custodial arrest.
ericchile
08-01-2007, 08:43 AM
The problem with article is that it makes it sound like the woman was arrested while translating for a victim. While in fact she was arrested because she was a witness and was attempting to leave the scene of an accident.
Although the cop was pretty dumb.
derstuka
08-01-2007, 09:01 AM
The problem with article is that it makes it sound like the woman was arrested while translating for a victim. While in fact she was arrested because she was a witness and was attempting to leave the scene of an accident.
Although the cop was pretty dumb.
Leave the scene? Yeah right....she was just being a good samaritan and trying to help from the start. She did not have to stop and help. Then she tried to get a phone from someone when the cops would not help her. From the sound of it, she was not involved in the accident at all, just a witness with the good heart to stop. Yeah, there are some good cops, however, many of the cops I have dealt with are pretty damn dumb and have a big ego. I was a witness to a break-in burglary and I had to tell these idiot cops at least 4 times the vehicle description, as well as the suspect description. They kept getting it wrong, and I had to tell them to write it down after the 3rd time. Yep, that is right, I had to tell them to write it down.
Just another typical stupid cop with a BIG ego. He had to be the tough guy and try and show her that only he is the boss, even though she was the one helping the victim in need. What a tough guy he is!
Besides I have never heard of a person being arrested being a witness and helping out....wait a second I have several times, for one, a guy in texas went against an order not to help a person in the water, and the guy saved the person's life from drowning, and was promptly arrrested when we got out of the water. A police officer needs to use his little brain and assess the situation, and not just his big ego.
opskmallory
08-01-2007, 09:48 AM
...many of the cops I have dealt with are pretty damn dumb and have a big ego...
Just another typical stupid cop with a BIG ego. He had to be the tough guy and try and show her that only he is the boss, even though she was the one helping the victim in need. What a tough guy he is!
A police officer needs to use his little brain and assess the situation, and not just his big ego.
Lol. I have to laugh at all the ego remarks by the guy who made his avatar of him between two busty blondes, with an "I'm da man" smirk on his face. :roflol:
derstuka
08-01-2007, 10:27 AM
...many of the cops I have dealt with are pretty damn dumb and have a big ego...
Just another typical stupid cop with a BIG ego. He had to be the tough guy and try and show her that only he is the boss, even though she was the one helping the victim in need. What a tough guy he is!
A police officer needs to use his little brain and assess the situation, and not just his big ego.
Lol. I have to laugh at all the ego remarks by the guy who made his avatar of him between two busty blondes, with an "I'm da man" smirk on his face. :roflol:
Hey, I paid good money for those chicks! :2thumbs:
ericchile
08-01-2007, 11:51 AM
The problem with article is that it makes it sound like the woman was arrested while translating for a victim. While in fact she was arrested because she was a witness and was attempting to leave the scene of an accident.
Although the cop was pretty dumb.
Leave the scene? Yeah right....she was just being a good samaritan and trying to help from the start. She did not have to stop and help. Then she tried to get a phone from someone when the cops would not help her. From the sound of it, she was not involved in the accident at all, just a witness with the good heart to stop. Yeah, there are some good cops, however, many of the cops I have dealt with are pretty damn dumb and have a big ego. I was a witness to a break-in burglary and I had to tell these idiot cops at least 4 times the vehicle description, as well as the suspect description. They kept getting it wrong, and I had to tell them to write it down after the 3rd time. Yep, that is right, I had to tell them to write it down.
Just another typical stupid cop with a BIG ego. He had to be the tough guy and try and show her that only he is the boss, even though she was the one helping the victim in need. What a tough guy he is!
Besides I have never heard of a person being arrested being a witness and helping out....wait a second I have several times, for one, a guy in texas went against an order not to help a person in the water, and the guy saved the person's life from drowning, and was promptly arrrested when we got out of the water. A police officer needs to use his little brain and assess the situation, and not just his big ego.
From my experience there is always two sides to the story... And the media makes up another.
Not to say that I don't agree with the cop ego thing. I one brother and a brother in law that are police men. I have been on ride alongs. Meet other cops at the same time. They are human just like the rest of us. Some are good natured others have the ego.
derstuka
08-01-2007, 12:36 PM
The problem with article is that it makes it sound like the woman was arrested while translating for a victim. While in fact she was arrested because she was a witness and was attempting to leave the scene of an accident.
Although the cop was pretty dumb.
Leave the scene? Yeah right....she was just being a good samaritan and trying to help from the start. She did not have to stop and help. Then she tried to get a phone from someone when the cops would not help her. From the sound of it, she was not involved in the accident at all, just a witness with the good heart to stop. Yeah, there are some good cops, however, many of the cops I have dealt with are pretty damn dumb and have a big ego. I was a witness to a break-in burglary and I had to tell these idiot cops at least 4 times the vehicle description, as well as the suspect description. They kept getting it wrong, and I had to tell them to write it down after the 3rd time. Yep, that is right, I had to tell them to write it down.
Just another typical stupid cop with a BIG ego. He had to be the tough guy and try and show her that only he is the boss, even though she was the one helping the victim in need. What a tough guy he is!
Besides I have never heard of a person being arrested being a witness and helping out....wait a second I have several times, for one, a guy in texas went against an order not to help a person in the water, and the guy saved the person's life from drowning, and was promptly arrrested when we got out of the water. A police officer needs to use his little brain and assess the situation, and not just his big ego.
From my experience there is always two sides to the story... And the media makes up another.
Not to say that I don't agree with the cop ego thing. I one brother and a brother in law that are police men. I have been on ride alongs. Meet other cops at the same time. They are human just like the rest of us. Some are good natured others have the ego.
You are right though, there are two sides to every story, and we don't know the whole story, just bits of it. I have nothing against cops, I just don't like it when I see them recklessly throwing around their badge like they are the Almighty! I know some very good cops who are nice guys as well. Luckily, I don't have that many run-ins with the law, so I don't have to experience cops too often. :2thumbs:
Scott Card
08-01-2007, 12:47 PM
From my experience there is always two sides to the story... And the media makes up another.
Aint that the truth. I have been the victim of a murder according to the Daily Herald, the Provo news paper, not once but twice. Much to the delight of may wife, family, and mother, neither story was true.
opskmallory
08-01-2007, 01:19 PM
The media is fantastic at skewing facts, especially in cases like this. They tell the version of the story that makes money. And unfortunately, society is always looking for a reason to bag on cops and other government officials, thus making any incident which gives society the chance, instant headline news.
:soapbox: How would you like it if you made a screw up at work, and it instantly became national news? Then to have people pass judgement of you and your profession, without knowing ALL the facts. Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Scott Card
08-01-2007, 01:26 PM
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Hi, I'm a lawyer, you called? :haha:
derstuka
08-01-2007, 01:42 PM
The media is fantastic at skewing facts, especially in cases like this. They tell the version of the story that makes money. And unfortunately, society is always looking for a reason to bag on cops and other government officials, thus making any incident which gives society the chance, instant headline news.
:soapbox: How would you like it if you made a screw up at work, and it instantly became national news? Then to have people pass judgement of you and your profession, without knowing ALL the facts. Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
You have to take the good with the bad in the media. Take information and digest it and think of it what you will.
Would people prefer that our media is funneled thru government agencies that tell them what they can and cannot print? Imagine reading the "Bush Weekly" newspaper! :eek2: Imagine the news how uncle sam would tell it to us. I do not like the media personally, they go for the gore factor to get ratings, and do not care who they step on to get it, I truly wish they would clean up their act, however, that is never going to happen, not since everybody loves watching those 3 hour police chases and reality TV. Some media does actually do some good, and spread light on issues that would otherwise be left uncovered. IMO, I do believe that media can be a necessary evil that is good to have around sometimes to relay information....like I said, the good with the bad. Unfortunately, there can be more bad than good many times....
People pass judgement onto others without the facts each and everyday, it is called gossip, and they don't need the news to help them do that. It is up to our own intelligence to descipher what information we get from others, whether it be from the news, or your next door neighbor.
CarpeyBiggs
08-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Would people prefer that our media is funneled thru government agencies that tell them what they can and cannot print? Imagine reading the "Bush Weekly" newspaper!
Isn't that what Rupert Murdoch and the News Corporation are for?
EDIT: I just read that Rupie just bought the "Wall Street Journal" as well. So he now owns pretty much everything that Disney and Viacom don't.
People pass judgement onto others without the facts each and everyday, it is called gossip, and they don't need the news to help them do that. It is up to our own intelligence to descipher what information we get from others, whether it be from the news, or your next door neighbor.
With what you just said, why jump on the bashing cop bandwagon? Your intelligence led you to decipher that the news article was fact? I see one version in that article, the version that sells papers. :ne_nau:
derstuka
08-01-2007, 02:15 PM
People pass judgement onto others without the facts each and everyday, it is called gossip, and they don't need the news to help them do that. It is up to our own intelligence to descipher what information we get from others, whether it be from the news, or your next door neighbor.
With what you just said, why jump on the bashing cop bandwagon? Your intelligence led you to decipher that the news article was fact? I see one version in that article, the version that sells papers. :ne_nau:
I guess I have been around too many big ego cops lately, and cops that break laws (not in pursuit) and I felt the need to bash them. If I was on a jury, things would be evenly digested, however, right now I'm not, so I was bitchin' and bashin' I guess.
however, right now I'm not, so I was bitchin' and bashin' I guess.
:lol8:
Rev. Coyote
08-08-2007, 12:42 PM
Wow. Another dickless pig.
Never trust a cop.
(This is getting fun!)
Wow. Another dickless pig.
Since when do you believe what you read :mrgreen:
Rev. Coyote
08-08-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow. Another dickless pig.
Since when do you believe what you read :mrgreen:
I believe what I write. When I read it.
I believe what I write. When I read it.
Ahh Haaaa :haha: That's what I thought :mrgreen:
nefarious
08-08-2007, 05:19 PM
The media is fantastic at skewing facts, especially in cases like this.But there are enough retarded assholes in uniform, that they can make up just about any story and it will be believed. That might be the real point here.
I can't tell you how many times some retard wearing a badge has tried to pick a fight with me. One cop became outraged because I wouldn't look at him, of all things, said it was pretty suspicious! Truth of the matter is I know better than to stare at slack-jawed knuckleheads. Stupidity is dangerous!
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?Kinda' sucks how the 90% screw it up for the other 10%.
opskmallory
08-08-2007, 05:54 PM
The media is fantastic at skewing facts, especially in cases like this.But there are enough retarded assholes in uniform, that they can make up just about any story and it will be believed. That might be the real point here.
I can't tell you how many times some retard wearing a badge has tried to pick a fight with me. One cop became outraged because I wouldn't look at him, of all things, said it was pretty suspicious! Truth of the matter is I know better than to stare at slack-jawed knuckleheads. Stupidity is dangerous!
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?Kinda' sucks how the 90% screw it up for the other 10%.
Sounds like you've had a run-in or two with the cops.
donny h
08-08-2007, 06:23 PM
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Hi, I'm a lawyer, you called? :haha:
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
Good one Scott.
I see you have new digs in Springville, with your name on the sign and everthing, the office looks nice, is that the base of your operations now? Or are you such a legal svengali that you're franchising yourself? :haha:
Sounds like you've had a run-in or two with the cops.
A few too many :haha: Hey now, that's the cops fault, I know how it is :roflol:
nefarious
08-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Sounds like you've had a run-in or two with the cops.
A few too many :haha: Hey now, that's the cops fault, I know how it is :roflol:Damn, Billy Bob. I hate to smother your wet dream, but I've yet to be outsmarted by a scumbag cop. I learned long ago, well before I reached the age of eighteen, to never ever trust a cop, and to never let them goad me into talking.
opskmallory
08-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Hi, I'm a lawyer, you called? :haha:
Haha, and not just any lawyer, but a defense attorney. Oh boy! :fart:
Lol, J/K, I've dealt with some very smart and nice defense attorneys. My job wouldn't be as much fun if there weren't good defense attorneys. You guys actually offered my wife a job about 4 months ago, but then a small conflict of interest was discovered. :doh:
and to never let them goad me into talking.
Paranoia? :ne_nau:
Rev. Coyote
08-09-2007, 07:56 AM
...I smell cops in here...
opskmallory
08-09-2007, 08:12 AM
...I smell cops in here...
Mmmm.....bacon.....
Rev. Coyote
08-09-2007, 08:23 AM
...I smell cops in here...
Mmmm.....bacon.....
Coffee and Dunkin' Donuts, actually...
opskmallory
08-09-2007, 08:44 AM
Coffee is gross, and we don't have Dunkin Donuts in Utah County. (though there is a Krispee Kreme in Orem).
Rev. Coyote
08-09-2007, 08:46 AM
Coffee is gross.
AHA! You're not a cop. Must be a security officer.
opskmallory
08-09-2007, 09:05 AM
Coffee is gross.
AHA! You're not a cop. Must be a security officer.
Security Officers drink more coffee than cops. They need the extra caffeine to stay awake while they sit and play solitaire.
Scott Card
08-09-2007, 04:52 PM
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Hi, I'm a lawyer, you called? :haha:
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
Good one Scott.
I see you have new digs in Springville, with your name on the sign and everthing, the office looks nice, is that the base of your operations now? Or are you such a legal svengali that you're franchising yourself? :haha:
No new digs in Springville. The sign in Springville is mostly that. We can use the building in Springville to meet with client's if we want but my real digs are in Provo and have been here (below) for a couple of years now. I wish I could franchise myself. I wouldn't have worked till midnight last night.
Scott Card
08-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Better yet, maybe people will start to generalize everyone in your profession as being stupid, having small brains, and big egos. Wouldn't that be cool?
Hi, I'm a lawyer, you called? :haha:
Haha, and not just any lawyer, but a defense attorney. Oh boy! :fart:
Lol, J/K, I've dealt with some very smart and nice defense attorneys. My job wouldn't be as much fun if there weren't good defense attorneys. You guys actually offered my wife a job about 4 months ago, but then a small conflict of interest was discovered. :doh:
Not just criminal defense but I also do the ever popular divorce and family law cases. Heck, the Daily Herald has me voted as Utah County's Favorite Divorce Lawyer. My mother was not pleased that I could split up a marriage better than anyone else. The third and final area of law that I do are accident and death cases. My partners do everything else. Yes, I do the nasty, sticky, gut wrenching stuff. I don't do the clean corporate or wills type stuff very often. Yes, I can go to church on Sunday and represent criminals and do divorce cases Monday through Friday. (you can't believe the number of times well meaning folks have asked me how I can represent criminals and go to chruch. :roflol: give me a break.)
opskmallory
08-09-2007, 05:41 PM
My mother was not pleased that I could split up a marriage better than anyone else. (you can't believe the number of times well meaning folks have asked me how I can represent criminals and go to chruch. :roflol: give me a break.)
Lol, that's funny.
Truth of the matter is that you're just doing your job. It's a job you are likely good at, and it provides for you and your family. It isn't necessarily a reflection of your character or personal priorities. Defending a criminal isn't always trying to help them "get away with it". Just like being a cop doesn't automatically mean that they are out to get everyone, that everyone is guilty, and their only purpose is to make people's lives miserable. This might come as a shock to some of you, but cops aren't programmed machines without a soul (attorneys on the other hand :ne_nau: ....j/k). Cops and attorneys are people too, that do normal people things and have families and friends and nasty in-laws. A few even like to recreate just like normal people.
ericchile
08-09-2007, 06:34 PM
My mother was not pleased that I could split up a marriage better than anyone else. (you can't believe the number of times well meaning folks have asked me how I can represent criminals and go to chruch. :roflol: give me a break.)
Lol, that's funny.
Truth of the matter is that you're just doing your job. It's a job you are likely good at, and it provides for you and your family. It isn't necessarily a reflection of your character or personal priorities. Defending a criminal isn't always trying to help them "get away with it". Just like being a cop doesn't automatically mean that they are out to get everyone, that everyone is guilty, and their only purpose is to make people's lives miserable. This might come as a shock to some of you, but cops aren't programmed machines without a soul (attorneys on the other hand :ne_nau: ....j/k). Cops and attorneys are people too, that do normal people things and have families and friends and nasty in-laws. A few even like to recreate just like normal people.
The real problem is that lawyers sometimes prey off the fallacies of our legal system. Thats why everyone ranks them right there with crummy politicians. Its not the job they do that is bad, but the way they do it.
donny h
08-09-2007, 10:49 PM
Just like being a cop doesn't automatically mean that they are out to get everyone, that everyone is guilty, and their only purpose is to make people's lives miserable. This might come as a shock to some of you, but cops aren't programmed machines without a soul
Oh, I don't doubt that for a second, I do have a very jaded view of some cops and their behavior, but that mostly applies to different types of 'hotshots', not rank and file beat cops.
By hotshots I mean highway patrolman/state troopers specializing in inderdiction, special task forces, gang units like CRASH, and anything having to do with the feds. It seems like the worst abuses by police come from such 'elite' units.
On a lighter note, the only time I have been pulled over in Utah was in Spanish Fork, and it couldn't have turned out better for me.
I may be suspicious of the feds, but I don't throw tude to cops who have every right to contact me, and this cop did, since I was doing 53mph in a 35 when he passed me going the opposite direction, and when he flipped a u-turn, I knew I was toast, and just pulled over before he could even catch up to me, he did have his lights flashing.
The first words out of his mouth were "I pulled you over for going 53 in a 35".
My reply was "WHOA! That's WAY too fast!"(telling the truth).
He chuckled, agreed it was too fast, commented that the speed limit can seem low on the north end of town out by the jail, and after checking my license he sent me on my way with a warning, as polite as could be.
The only time in my life I get a total pass on a well deserved ticket, and it's in Spanish Fork. :2thumbs:
I did get somewhat of a break once from a CHP who told me "I'm only going to write you up for 75mph, because that's how fast I was going when you slid past me with all four tires locked up". I deserved that one, too.
stefan
08-09-2007, 11:04 PM
I did get somewhat of a break once from a CHP who told me "I'm only going to write you up for 75mph, because that's how fast I was going when you slid past me with all four tires locked up". I deserved that one, too.
:lol8: :lol8:
donny h
08-09-2007, 11:17 PM
I did get somewhat of a break once from a CHP who told me "I'm only going to write you up for 75mph, because that's how fast I was going when you slid past me with all four tires locked up". I deserved that one, too.
:lol8: :lol8:
Yeah, that was a cute one. You know how when you're sailing along, and don't notice a cop in the slow lane, and you do that trick where you downshift instead of hitting your brakes? All in the hope that you can bleed off enough speed to avoid a pullover, without showing him your brake lights, which is a dead giveaway to your speedy nature and worse, your guilty reaction.
Well, it didn't work at 90 in my 1974 Dodge Dart, I'm not sure exactly what I was thinking, but naturally when I slammed it down into second gear it locked up the rears, hard, but it didn't fishtail so I got all over the brakes and locked up the fronts as well.
Enter the CHP...
nefarious
08-09-2007, 11:18 PM
Luck of the draw, I suppose. That's the same area where my brother wrecked his truck and was jailed for suspicion of driving while under the influence.
Despite the prosecution having precisely zero evidence to support the charge, and despite every available witness contradicting the testimony of the scumbag who wrote the ticket, the DA's office dutifully filed charges.
No big deal, I suppose. Sure, it was a great waste of the taxpayers money to try a hopeless case, but it was fun for my brother to drive all the way from the West Coast for a wasted trial that should never have been held in the first place... :ne_nau:
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