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Sombeech
03-23-2007, 11:39 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=1013742

http://media.bonnint.net/slc/96/9675/967591.jpg


Critics say the sky-walk will funnel people from one side of the City Creek project to the other, essentially trapping people in the shopping complex and drawing them away from Main Street shops.

HELP!!! HELP!!! We're trapped!


They argue the purpose of the complex was to draw people to Main Street to revitalize the area.

But developers say the sky-walk is crucial to the project and argue it will increase foot traffic on Main Street.

I guess there's always somebody in opposition.
DiscGo
03-23-2007, 12:16 PM
There are lots of sky bridges around the world, and it does not seem like business around them goes under. I guess I'll be curious to see what happens here.
gonzo
03-23-2007, 01:08 PM
EVERYTHING on Main Street goes under. A sky bridge won't help or hurt it. It's the fact that Utah has three seasons: colder than hell, pretty nice, and hotter than hell. It makes outdoor shopping a dicey proposition unless you load up the block with high end stores like The Gateway.
DiscGo
03-23-2007, 01:12 PM
The LDS church is concern with the neighborhood around Temple Square, so they are taking the fiscal approach of just throwing money at the problem to make it go away. The LDS church is spending over a billion dollars on improvements for the neighborhood of Temple Square hoping to encourage a better atmosphere.

I would think this sky bridge has to be part of that, but I'm not sure how that is going to make the streets any safer?
sparker1
03-23-2007, 01:58 PM
I say put that monstrosity at the Grand Canyon, where it belongs. :bootyshake:
Scout Master
03-23-2007, 04:05 PM
I used to Live Near Spokane Washington They have something like a dozen Sky bridges So that you can move all over down town with out ever touching pavement. Yet the street level business are just as busy as the upper level businesses.
DiscGo
03-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Yeah, I was also thinking about Seattle and how little it has effected business there. I think people just hate changed (me included).
Scout Master
03-23-2007, 04:26 PM
OOPS
I was wrong Spokane does not have a dozen sky bridges they have 21.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE7DC103EF936A35754C0A9619482 60

I noticed the article said they started 20 years ago but I remember using them 30 Years ago
Scott Card
03-23-2007, 04:43 PM
OOPS
I was wrong Spokane does not have a dozen sky bridges they have 21.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE7DC103EF936A35754C0A9619482 60

I noticed the article said they started 20 years ago but I remember using them 30 Years ago

You may want to limit your intake of Aluminum Foil for a few weeks and see if it helps.... :lol8:
DiscGo
03-23-2007, 04:46 PM
OOPS
I was wrong Spokane does not have a dozen sky bridges they have 21.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE7DC103EF936A35754C0A9619482 60

I noticed the article said they started 20 years ago but I remember using them 30 Years ago


Wow ScoutMaster! Way to back up your posts!
Scout Master
03-23-2007, 06:18 PM
You may want to limit your intake of Aluminum Foil for a few weeks and see if it helps.... lol8

P~ Nothing wrong with long term memory It's the short term that is failing me.
I DO remember walking all over town back in 1977 on the sky bridges.
greyhair biker
03-23-2007, 07:26 PM
Cool, but can you hock a loogie over it like in Vegas?? :lol8:
Scott Card
03-24-2007, 12:20 PM
You may want to limit your intake of Aluminum Foil for a few weeks and see if it helps.... lol8

P~ Nothing wrong with long term memory It's the short term that is failing me.
I DO remember walking all over town back in 1977 on the sky bridges.

You know I'm just joshing. :haha: :2thumbs:
TreeHugger
03-24-2007, 01:51 PM
EVERYTHING on Main Street goes under. A sky bridge won't help or hurt it. It's the fact that Utah has three seasons: colder than hell, pretty nice, and hotter than hell. It makes outdoor shopping a dicey proposition unless you load up the block with high end stores like The Gateway.

Personally, I dont think the weather is that bad, and it really hasnt effected Gateway at all. Winters are mild, summers are tolerable if you can sit in the shade a sip a icy beverage. What down town needs are places where people want to hang out - and of which I have seen no where in the entire Salt Lake valley - that would be cool little pubs, coffee shops and restaurants with OUTDOOR SEATING. Every very cool town I've ever been in has hundreds of people walking about and hanging out outside because they can. Great for people watching and enjoying the views.

What's the take on the church allowing shops to be open on Sundays and on allowing liquor to be sold? What about coffee shops??
Scout Master
03-24-2007, 03:35 PM
Scott P. Card said

You know I'm just joshing

Do you know what P~ means? :fitz:
KillEmAll
03-24-2007, 05:51 PM
You know who the loudest voice in opposition is Rocky and there's only one reason he's fighting it... the church is funding it. He will do anything he can to make it as difficult as possible.
Sombeech
03-26-2007, 04:31 PM
What's the take on the church allowing shops to be open on Sundays and on allowing liquor to be sold? What about coffee shops??

Probably not much if it's not on their property.
gonzo
03-26-2007, 04:50 PM
What's the take on the church allowing shops to be open on Sundays and on allowing liquor to be sold? What about coffee shops??

Last I heard, which was about a year ago, the church was going to allow coffee and alcoholic beverages to be sold in their new downtown development, The City Creek Center. However, they will sell the restaurant spaces to a private developer so that the church won't be directly involved in any alcohol sales. They are not going to allow private clubs and bars to open in the new development though, liquor will only be sold through "high quality restaurant tenants".(1) Stores in the City Creek Center will be closed on Sundays, but restaurants can choose to remain open.(2)

(1)Booze Yes, Sundays No (http://www.thedowntownmalls.com/news/2005/2005-08-28-SLTrib-BoozeYesSundaysNo.pdf) (PDF alert)
(2)Downtown rebound: LDS Church unveils plans for 20-acre development (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650196045,00.html)
DiscGo
03-26-2007, 04:59 PM
I know that when there was concern about Olympic events being in Provo (where alcohol is not able to be sold at sporting events) the LDS leader (Gordon B. Hinckley) made it clear that people should be able to buy beer if they want it for the Olympics.
TreeHugger
03-26-2007, 05:26 PM
What's the take on the church allowing shops to be open on Sundays and on allowing liquor to be sold? What about coffee shops??

Last I heard, which was about a year ago, the church was going to allow coffee and alcoholic beverages to be sold in their new downtown development, The City Creek Center. However, they will sell the restaurant spaces to a private developer so that the church won't be directly involved in any alcohol sales. They are not going to allow private clubs and bars to open in the new development though, liquor will only be sold through "high quality restaurant tenants".(1) Stores in the City Creek Center will be closed on Sundays, but restaurants can choose to remain open.(2)

(1)Booze Yes, Sundays No (http://www.thedowntownmalls.com/news/2005/2005-08-28-SLTrib-BoozeYesSundaysNo.pdf) (PDF alert)
(2)Downtown rebound: LDS Church unveils plans for 20-acre development (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650196045,00.html)

Thanks for the info. A shopping center not open on a weekend day seems silly to me... that's when people are often out and about shopping and sightseeing. But, oh well. There's always Gateway.