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stefan
03-16-2007, 11:04 AM
Huge ice deposits cover south pole of Mars

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A spacecraft orbiting Mars has scanned huge deposits of water ice at its south pole so plentiful they would blanket the planet in 36 feet of water if they were liquid, scientists said Thursday.

The scientists used a joint NASA-Italian Space Agency radar instrument on the European Space Agency Mars Express spacecraft to gauge the thickness and volume of ice deposits at the Martian south pole covering an area larger than Texas.

The deposits, up to 2.3 miles thick, are under a polar cap of white frozen carbon dioxide and water, and appear to be composed of at least 90 percent frozen water, with dust mixed in, according to findings published in the journal Science.

Scientists have known that water exists in frozen form at the Martian poles, but this research produced the most accurate measurements of just how much there is.

They are eager to learn about the history of water on Mars because water is fundamental to the question of whether the planet has ever harbored microbial or some other life. Liquid water is a necessity for life as we know it.

Characteristics like channels on the Martian surface strongly suggest the planet once was very wet, a contrast to its present arid, dusty condition.

Jeffrey Plaut of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, who led the study, said the same techniques are being used to examine similar ice deposits at the Martian north pole.

Radar observations made in late 2005 and early 2006 provided the data on the south pole, and similar observations were taken of the north pole in the past several months, Plaut said.

Plaut, part of an international team of two dozen scientists, said a preliminary look at this data indicated the ice deposits in at the north pole are comparable to those at the south pole.

"Life as we know it requires water and, in fact, at least transient liquid water for cells to survive and reproduce. So if we are expecting to find existing life on Mars we need to go to a location where water is available," Plaut said.

"So the polar regions are naturally a target because we certainly know that there's plenty of H2O there."

Some of the new information even hints at the possible existence of a thin layer of liquid water at the base of the deposits.

But while images taken by NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft made public in December suggested the presence of a small amount of liquid water on the surface, researchers are baffled about the fate of most of the water. The polar deposits contain most of the known water on Mars.

Plaut said the amount of water in the Martian past may have been the equivalent of a global layer hundreds of meters deep, while the polar deposits represent a layer of perhaps tens of meters.

"We have this continuing question facing us in studies of Mars, which is: where did all the water go?" Plaut said.

"Even if you took the water in these two (polar) ice caps and added it all up, it's still not nearly enough to do all of the work that we've seen that the water has done across the surface of Mars in its history."

Plaut said it appears perhaps 10 percent of the water that once existed on Mars is now trapped in these polar deposits. Other water may exist below the planet's surface or perhaps some was lost into space through the atmosphere, Plaut said.

Copyright 2007 Reuters.

rockgremlin
03-16-2007, 11:29 AM
NASA should send a bunch of SUVs to Mars and just run them nonstop for years on end in order to produce enough CO2 to melt those icecaps. :haha:

price1869
03-16-2007, 01:15 PM
I think that Al Gore said it would take about 25 hummers a total of 12 hours to produce the catastophic flooding that our children would hate us for.

We don't want to make any marks on the surface either, so better put them up on some sort of stationary system.

Udink
03-16-2007, 01:25 PM
25 hummers a total of 12 hours
Sounds like fun to me! :naughty:

nefarious
03-16-2007, 01:34 PM
I had no idea about the thick water deposits on Mars. I don't understand how water might have escaped into space from Mars, haven't heard about that either.

rockgremlin
03-16-2007, 02:13 PM
I don't understand how water might have escaped into space from Mars....


Catapult...

JP
03-16-2007, 02:26 PM
Catapult...
It's all frozen up there because Mars is going through its global warming phase. See, the Martians, used their SUV's for years, which was the direct cause of their planets failure :nod:

DiscGo
03-16-2007, 02:33 PM
25 hummers a total of 12 hours
Sounds like fun to me! :naughty: :roflol:

JP
03-16-2007, 02:35 PM
25 hummers a total of 12 hours
Sounds like fun to me! :naughty: :roflol:
I missed that when I first read this post :lol8: That's what I get for waking up and jumping directly onto the computer :haha:

HEADHUNTER
03-16-2007, 03:04 PM
how much wasted tax payer dollars went to find this out? Did it benefit us much? I guess if we can get a martian to come here and solve all the worlds problems (without even trying) maybe it'd be worth knowing about the ice caps.

Sombeech
03-16-2007, 03:37 PM
Catapult...
It's all frozen up there because Mars is going through its global warming phase. See, the Martians, used their SUV's for years, which was the direct cause of their planets failure :nod:

Hence how dusty it is. All that CO2 dun distappeared the atmusfere!

JP
03-16-2007, 03:40 PM
Hence how dusty it is. All that CO2 dun distappeared the atmusfere!
I know Martians are green, but I guess they needed the other "green" type to save their planet and they must not of have any to save the day :lol8:

Sombeech
03-16-2007, 03:45 PM
I don't understand how water might have escaped into space from Mars

Fat Lady Cannonball

http://www.stud.hio.no/~s109109/fat_lady_bikini.jpg

Scott Card
03-16-2007, 03:48 PM
I don't understand how water might have escaped into space from Mars

Fat Lady Cannonball

http://www.stud.hio.no/~s109109/fat_lady_bikini.jpg

The wisdom and knowledge of this site is astounding. I did not know how water got on Mars till now... makes perfect sense. :lol8: I wonder if St. George is planning to run a pipeline to Mars to solve their water issues.

JP
03-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Fat Lady Cannonball

http://www.stud.hio.no/~s109109/fat_lady_bikini.jpg
You're on a roll today, PLEASE DO NOT STOP :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

HEADHUNTER
03-16-2007, 05:38 PM
You're on a roll today, PLEASE DO NOT STOP

more than likely he's under one of her rolls :lol8:

DiscGo
03-16-2007, 05:59 PM
Where in the world, did she find a bikini that fits?

JP
03-16-2007, 06:23 PM
Where in the world, did she find a bikini that fits?
You call that fitting :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

nefarious
03-16-2007, 07:07 PM
I don't understand how water might have escaped into space from Mars

Fat Lady CannonballI don't get it. :sad:

JP
03-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I don't get it. :sad:
Have you followed along from the beginning of this thread :haha:

nefarious
03-16-2007, 07:44 PM
I don't get it. :sad:
Have you followed along from the beginning of this thread :haha:Did the fat lady jump on a catapult? :ne_nau:

JP
03-16-2007, 08:12 PM
Did the fat lady jump on a catapult? :ne_nau:
All she need was a flop :roflol:

nefarious
03-16-2007, 08:28 PM
Ohhhh! You mean like this!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nAYn9szG3Fk&mode=related&search=

sparker1
03-16-2007, 10:19 PM
Maybe Al Gore (or Hillary) can bring those suckers to Earth, since our ice caps are melting rapidly.

DiscGo
03-16-2007, 10:24 PM
Where in the world, did she find a bikini that fits?
You call that fitting :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Okay, point taken. :haha:

JP
03-17-2007, 07:02 AM
Ohhhh! You mean like this!
YES!!!! :roflol: No you got it :2thumbs: :roflol:


Okay, point taken. :haha:
:nod: :nod: :nod:

DiscGo
03-17-2007, 07:19 AM
Ohhhh! You mean like this!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nAYn9szG3Fk&mode=related&search=


I had never seen this compilation before. That is pretty funny.

stefan
03-17-2007, 07:29 AM
i must say, this is a very strange thread

R
03-17-2007, 08:15 AM
how much wasted tax payer dollars went to find this out? Did it benefit us much? I guess if we can get a martian to come here and solve all the worlds problems (without even trying) maybe it'd be worth knowing about the ice caps.

Agreed. Scientific discovery should always take a back seat to tobacco subsidies and foreign aid to nations who hate us.

greyhair biker
03-17-2007, 03:04 PM
AWESOME!! Total Global Destruction brought on by a hot babe! Totally possible :naughty:

rockgremlin
03-17-2007, 11:19 PM
I think all posts should end up like this one. It's really taken an unexpectedly funny turn.

Kinda reminds me of that old childhood game called telephone. :haha:

DiscGo
03-17-2007, 11:23 PM
Kinda reminds me of that old childhood game called telephone. :haha:


I can totally see that. :haha:

Jaxx
03-19-2007, 10:29 AM
What happened was 10 million years ago, give or take a billion or so years, our monkey ancestors depleted their ozone somehow. It actually had the opposite effect than what we are predicting here on earth and it froze thier two seas which happen to be on the poles.
So they flew a "rocket ship" and since it was such a primitive rocket they couldn't steer it and just had to land on whatever planet the came to first. It happened to be earth.
That is what happened to life on mars and how life on earth began. I haven't figured out yet how life started on mars though.