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Sombeech
12-31-2006, 08:05 PM
WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF RABBITS BEING SHOT* although, there is no blood shown. You'll just see bunnies get taken out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzvJfK6o-0





*Just in case the "Hunting & Shooting" label on the forum didn't let you know that animals could possibly be killed here.
So, here it is. And most of all, we'd like to apologize to fourtycal. We were late getting out there, and he had to take off early. Sorry bro.

offpiste
12-31-2006, 08:27 PM
Nice area! Good shootin'. We got a few as well but didn't see near that many.

accadacca
12-31-2006, 08:58 PM
THATS AWESOME!!! :popcorn:

Sombeech
12-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Here are a couple of pics.

fourtycal
01-01-2007, 11:53 AM
:roflol: :roflol:

I love it! I pretty much live for trips like that.

I go play a good 30+ times a year without the wife so I can't feel too bad about giving up one for her. Not you guys fault at all! plus she owes me big now :naughty:

good work on the video! :hail2thechief: :hail2thechief:

tanya
01-01-2007, 02:21 PM
And from the night before? King Crab buffet at the Rainbow Casino!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2BaRazLUAQ


LADIES!!!!!! WARNING!!!!!

Savannah...... take a deep breath before plunging forward....


OH YEeeeAaaaH!!!!!

accadacca
01-01-2007, 02:48 PM
These two vids are your finest work to date. :2thumbs: :hail2thechief: :popcorn:

tanya
01-01-2007, 03:19 PM
These two vids are your finest work to date. :2thumbs: :hail2thechief: :popcorn:


I am not going to watch the killing small creatures video, but the one with handsome men...... playing with things with their mouth...


I HIGHLY suggest for the females of the group to watch...

Only those over 21 though!

psl53
01-01-2007, 04:27 PM
Great video, How many bricks did you guys go through? And who cleaned and who's eating all those rabbits? Your videos rule!!!!!!

Sombeech
01-01-2007, 04:57 PM
Great video, How many bricks did you guys go through? And who cleaned and who's eating all those rabbits? Your videos rule!!!!!!

Ahh, thank you, thank you. Myself, I went through @ 350 rounds. I had 3 25-round clips that I was continually reloading. Fingers are sore today.

Sombeech
01-01-2007, 06:36 PM
Hey, check it out. I'm on the YouTube Honor List for "Most Viewed Today"

:cool2:

tanya
01-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Yeah... it's all the Peta members! They are watching you! :popcorn:

KillEmAll
01-01-2007, 07:54 PM
Watching that video makes we want to get out there again. What a blast.
:rifle:

accadacca
01-01-2007, 07:59 PM
*Just in case the "Hunting & Shooting" label on the forum didn't let you know that animals could possibly be killed here.

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: I love this part...

And yeah the video is not as graphic as I thought it would be. Bunnies falling down and stuff, kicking the bucket. But not much blood or guts.

Sombeech
01-01-2007, 07:59 PM
Yeah... it's all the Peta members! They are watching you! :popcorn:

:lol8: so they did get the email. :haha:

Sombeech
01-01-2007, 08:00 PM
And yeah the video is not as graphic as I thought it would be. Bunnies falling down and stuff, kicking the bucket. But not much blood or guts.

Yeah, I've got them on the "Director's cut". I took it easy for the most part.

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 08:54 AM
:lol8: The honors keep on coming in. I just checked this morning. It's only been 36 hours since I posted it. 5 honors.

Keep the UUtah propaganda machine rolling. :cool2:

shlingdawg
01-02-2007, 09:32 AM
Now I'm REALLY bummed that I didn't get in on that. Looks like a lot o' fun. Nice shots w/ the camera Sombeech. I'd like to mount something like that on my new 22-250 for knocking down coyotes & praire dogs.

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 10:06 AM
Nice shots w/ the camera Sombeech. I'd like to mount something like that on my new 22-250 for knocking down coyotes & praire dogs.

Thanks. I'm just worried about the recoil harming the camcorder, or I would have put it on the shotgun. That's what the helmetcam is for though, we just ran out of time.

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 10:21 AM
:lol8: I've got all kinds of people PM'ing me, asking where this spot is. Sorry fellas, it's Don's Secret Spot. :nono:

RedMan
01-02-2007, 11:50 AM
Kudos on the creative use of the Super Clamp.

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 11:52 AM
Kudos on the creative use of the Super Clamp.

:2thumbs: Thanks to you, bud.

jowchie
01-02-2007, 01:20 PM
http://digg.com/videos/sports/Redneck_FPS_Rabbit_Hunt

your video got dugg

tanya
01-02-2007, 01:24 PM
http://digg.com/videos/sports/Redneck_FPS_Rabbit_Hunt

your video got dugg


Rednecks :lol8:

tanya
01-02-2007, 02:22 PM
http://digg.com/videos/sports/Redneck_FPS_Rabbit_Hunt

your video got dugg

Welcome by the Way :2thumbs:

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 02:33 PM
http://digg.com/videos/sports/Redneck_FPS_Rabbit_Hunt

your video got dugg

Sweet! Welcome to the forum!!! :cool2:

accadacca
01-02-2007, 03:56 PM
*Just in case the "Hunting & Shooting" label on the forum didn't let you know that animals could possibly be killed here.

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: I love this part...
Maybe we ought to say, "Animals were harmed in the filming of this video" :lol8:

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Maybe we ought to say, "Animals were harmed in the filming of this video" :lol8:

Hunters were not harmed in the filming of this video. Except for a few blisters on their fingers from reloading all those bullets.

basilone0331
01-02-2007, 10:20 PM
Looks like it was a blast, no pun intended. I haven't been bunny blasting in a they years, that makes me want to go again. Sombeech, did the camera interfere with your aiming and what type of mags are those? The only reliable mags I can find for my 10/22 are made by Butler Creek.

Sombeech
01-02-2007, 10:52 PM
Sombeech, did the camera interfere with your aiming and what type of mags are those?

Only when I missed :lol8:

I was just using my Ruger .22 rifle, nothing fancy. I'd hit some about 4 times, and they'd still be jumping around though. Next time I'll bring the 12 gauge like accadacca. I'll be wearing the helmetcam though.

tallsteve
01-03-2007, 07:20 AM
As one who is a Ruger .22 user, only buy the Butler Creek brand high capacity clip. The Ramline version has a tendancy to jam frequently and of course, at the most inconvenient moment. Cal Ranch Stores had the Butler Creek 25 round clip on-sale last week for $14.

DickHead
01-03-2007, 07:32 AM
You suck! Looks like a damn good time!
Put a 4x scope on your ruger, you won't regret it. Mine shoots 1/2" 50 yard groups.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/Atc1man/Guns/myscoped1022.jpg

Sombeech
01-03-2007, 05:11 PM
You suck! Looks like a damn good time!
Put a 4x scope on your ruger, you won't regret it. Mine shoots 1/2" 50 yard groups.

I'd love a scope. I wonder if it'd interfere with the video frame though. I would love to try mounting the camcorder in front (behind?) the scope, so the camera captures the scope vision. Then, you can just look through the viewfinder for the scope vision.

Anyways, somebody's asking me how to mount the camera to the gun, so I thought I'd post these pictures.

http://uutah.com/forum/files/guncam_2000__3___medium_.jpg

http://uutah.com/forum/files/guncam_2000__5___medium_.jpg

http://uutah.com/forum/files/guncam_2000__8___medium_.jpg

http://uutah.com/forum/files/guncam_2000__9___medium_.jpg

HEADHUNTER
01-04-2007, 09:18 AM
Looks like killing was your business - and business was good

:rockon:

Sombeech
01-04-2007, 09:31 PM
Looks like killing was your business - and business was good

:rockon:

Definitely room for improvement though. Next time it's the helmetcam/shotgun combo. :2thumbs:

tallsteve
01-05-2007, 10:35 AM
Here's my bunny guns- .22 on the right, 9mm on the left.

Sombeech
01-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Here's my bunny guns- .22 on the right, 9mm on the left.

Nice! :cool2:

PunchKing
01-05-2007, 12:37 PM
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: I love this part...

And yeah the video is not as graphic as I thought it would be. Bunnies falling down and stuff, kicking the bucket. But not much blood or guts.

Bigger guns would improve the gore for certain, hence forth I suggest exploding bullets.

Sombeech
01-05-2007, 01:19 PM
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: I love this part...

And yeah the video is not as graphic as I thought it would be. Bunnies falling down and stuff, kicking the bucket. But not much blood or guts.

Bigger guns would improve the gore for certain, hence forth I suggest exploding bullets.

Well, I left some bloody stuff out of the final cut as well, when I'd finish them off with my .38 handgun.

Sombeech
01-09-2007, 07:22 PM
YouTube compression sucks, so I'm uploading a bunch of my videos to the server for your convenient download of high resolution. :2thumbs:

Download Hi-Res version here. (http://uutah.com/forum/files/Rabbit.wmv) 72MB @5 minutes long.

With this version, you can actually see the snow popping up all around the bunnies when we miss. :haha:

Sombeech
01-22-2007, 03:16 PM
The laughs keep coming.

On the Huntingnet.com forum, I posted the link to this video about the same time as uutah. Of course, you'll get all kinds of people bashing back and forth on different issues, such as: My shooting skills, and if we left the rabbits there or not.

So anyways, some dude named Predator26 says "your a d**chebag". I correct him and say it's "you're" not "your". Here's his response:

hahaa you ****ing retard, your post has nothing to do with this thread and you only have 13 posts you don't know ****.
My response:

This may have been the funniest thing I've read all day. I STARTED THE THREAD, YOU IDIOT!!!!

See it here, on PAGE 6:
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1898658&mpage=6

RugerShooter
01-25-2007, 04:21 PM
The laughs keep coming.

On the Huntingnet.com forum, I posted the link to this video about the same time as uutah. Of course, you'll get all kinds of people bashing back and forth on different issues, such as: My shooting skills, and if we left the rabbits there or not.

So anyways, some dude named Predator26 says "your a d**chebag". I correct him and say it's "you're" not "your". Here's his response:

hahaa you ****ing retard, your post has nothing to do with this thread and you only have 13 posts you don't know ****.
My response:

This may have been the funniest thing I've read all day. I STARTED THE THREAD, YOU IDIOT!!!!

See it here, on PAGE 6:
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1898658&mpage=6


That thread is hilarious

Big58cal
02-04-2007, 11:07 AM
I gotta say man.....GREAT VIDEO! :2thumbs:

Someone on the site I usually hang out at found the video and posted a link to it (and no, it wasn't the Huntingnet forums).

I know what you mean about the Huntingnet forums! My state site resembles that one a lot by the amount of bickering back and forth. And that's why I don't go there anymore!!! :lol8:

Again, great video! Keep'em coming! :clap:

Sombeech
02-04-2007, 12:04 PM
Someone on the site I usually hang out at found the video and posted a link to it (and no, it wasn't the Huntingnet forums).

Sweet, what site was it? Welcome to the forum, by the way.

Big58cal
02-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Sweet, what site was it? Welcome to the forum, by the way.

http://www.gutpilestyle.com/ :mrgreen:

Sombeech
02-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Sweet, what site was it? Welcome to the forum, by the way.

http://www.gutpilestyle.com/ :mrgreen:

Cool. What section was it under?

Big58cal
02-05-2007, 11:08 AM
Sweet, what site was it? Welcome to the forum, by the way.

http://www.gutpilestyle.com/ :mrgreen:

Cool. What section was it under?

http://www.gutpilestyle.com/ForumSMF/index.php?topic=5844.0

It's in the squirrel hunting section. The topic is Somebody KILL some squirrels, on the second page of the thread. :2thumbs:

Sombeech
09-13-2007, 03:27 PM
The rabbit hunt video is re linked.

I have to re edit the fork cam one though. :roll:

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Cool video setup.

How do those things taste? What's the best way to clean & prepare them?

Sombeech
01-02-2008, 11:21 AM
How do those things taste? What's the best way to clean & prepare them?

According to the Coyotes, they taste pretty good. :lol8:

These were all jackrabbits, not cottontails. I believe cottontails have regulations on seasons/limits, but I'm not sure what they are.

We did see one cottontail out there, but he survived that day. :haha:

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 11:56 AM
Did you just leave them where they dropped? If you did, I think that is pretty f****d up. I know people do this all the time, but seems like a waste of life for some target practice. Yeah, there are way too many rabbits around and they are a nuisance, but if people would stop shooting all the damn coyotes, that problem would also resolve itself.

I am an active hunter, but I was always taught not to stop a heart unless there was a compelling reason. Maybe bunnie snuff films are a compelling reason.

fourtycal
01-02-2008, 12:16 PM
I am an active hunter

:lame:

If you were a hunter you would know why we don't eat Jackrabbit. You need to take your anti hunting, vermin loving attitude back to the peta forum you came from!
:asshat:

Sombeech
01-02-2008, 12:25 PM
Jackrabbits are vermin. I haven't hunted as much as I used to, but it's all relative.

I don't feel bad when I kill a mouse in a mousetrap, and most people don't. But if the mouse was shot with a gun, that's when people get upset.

If we stopped shooting jackrabbits, Fish n' Game would actually put out extermination orders to regulate the population.

I know it's all opinion, but within this hunting forum, we just have to accept that things will be killed.

tallsteve
01-02-2008, 12:57 PM
I'm not going to spend the time to find it but wasn't it just last year that the DWR or Fish and Game were BEGGING people to go shoot the jackrabbits?
Hey, I'll help!

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 12:58 PM
You're right, it's all relative. But you don't often see people gear up for, film, and publicize their actions when they exterminate rodents.

Jackrabbits have natural predators, but people insist on killing them for sport as well.

I won't say I don't hunt for sport. I love to see a bird flush from a well trained dog, and fall to a well placed shot. This is good sport, and an fun way to put food on the table. So is putting the stalk on a big ungulate.

And I am happy to accept that things will be killed. I am a meat eater, and have no problem taking a life, provided there is some compelling reason.

But as a wise man once wrote, "Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and aesthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one."

Take care, and hunt safe.

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 01:08 PM
I am an active hunter

:lame:

If you were a hunter you would know why we don't eat Jackrabbit. You need to take your anti hunting, vermin loving attitude back to the peta forum you came from!
:asshat:

Please. I have nothing to prove to you, except that not all hunters think or act alike. I am in no way anti-hunting. I support several hunting/conservation organizations, and try to make it into the field a few days during Chukar season, a couple cast and blast trips for trout, chukar and ducks on the Green River, and if I get a permit this year you can bet your ass I'll be eating deep fried turkey on the River this spring. Cow elk in the fall (better meat than the bulls.)

It's the rabid anti-predator folks that piss me off, folks like Don Pay Me & SFW. But I still like them better than Peta.

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 01:28 PM
Let me add this - I see there are over 10,000 views of this thread. So, likely I am in the extreme minority on this. I am not trying to shame anyone, and I am not just trying to stir the pot. This started with an honest (albeit ignorant) question about how to prepare a rabbit. Having never hunted rabbits, I didn't know people didn't eat the jacks. Nasty taste? Bad microbes? That would be my guess.

Anyways, just adding my point of view. Take it for what it's worth.

Sombeech
01-02-2008, 02:03 PM
Having never hunted rabbits, I didn't know people didn't eat the jacks. Nasty taste? Bad microbes? That would be my guess.

No problem. :cool2:

I've never eaten them either (knowingly) :haha:

But I've heard the best way to cook one is this:

Skin it, put it in a pot along with an old shoe. Season to taste. When cooked, throw away the rabbit. Bon Appetit!

o.c.utah
01-02-2008, 02:13 PM
I've eaten plenty of rabbit, not wild (that I know of) it probably came from a farm. Why is it that people don't eat Jacks?

Sombeech
01-02-2008, 05:12 PM
I've heard the meat is really tough, and there's usually not much on the bone anyways.

accadacca
01-02-2008, 06:11 PM
They are usually infested with some nasty diseases too. . .YUCK! :puke8:

shlingdawg
01-02-2008, 06:25 PM
I like to prepare them accordingly:

Hit them center mass with a well placed 45 grain hollow point 22-250.

Nothing to clean or dress and well tenderized and portioned for the coyotes.

fire
01-02-2008, 08:43 PM
I am an active hunter

:lame:

If you were a hunter you would know why we don't eat Jackrabbit. You need to take your anti hunting, vermin loving attitude back to the peta forum you came from!
:asshat:

Hunting is way different than killing You are killing jack rabbits. I used to do the same when I was in high school but used a .222 to see some guts fly. Jack rabbits and cottontails are both good to eat in the winter time, hence the season. The worms they have are killed in cold weather. The fur can be used for tying flies to catch your summer trout. Fried and grilled, just like a elk steak is the best way to cook em.

No need to get defensive cause you like to kill furry critters for the fun of it. Accept it and have a cold beer afterwards and you will be like the rest of us rednecks. :cheers:

fourtycal
01-03-2008, 07:45 AM
I've eaten plenty of rabbit, not wild (that I know of) it probably came from a farm. Why is it that people don't eat Jacks?

Cottontail rabbit is good eats, I eat nearly everyone I shoot. Great in a dutch oven with bbq sauce and taters.
Jack rabbit is tough, stringy and strong. I have eaten them though rumors float that they carry disease. cottontail has a season and bag limit but none for jackrabbits since they are considered vermin/nuisances.

Sorry to be so brash in my first reply, you are not the first to come on a hunting forum and bash hunting. Your statement was textbook animal rights activist.


No need to get defensive cause you like to kill furry critters for the fun of it. Accept it and have a cold beer afterwards and you will be like the rest of us rednecks.

Count me in! :haha: :friday:

Gutpiler_Utahn
01-03-2008, 07:48 AM
As fire previously stated, Jacks have worm and the like that are killed off every winter. My old man always tells me about how he was raised eating jacks and liked them. He said that if you soaked it in buttermilk first, it would tenderize the meat and then fried. Make gravy and home made mashed taters... Good stuff...

I haven't eaten any yet, though I will if I can manage to get one this winter. :2thumbs: I've had cottontail and to be honest, I think I'd take a bowl of fresh rabbit stew over a big juicy venison steak any day. Stuff is so good it'll make you wanna slap yo mamma. :roll:

MY T PIMP
01-03-2008, 09:06 AM
I Just sort of Tallied up all the Rabbit hunts out at this secret spot of mine. (Which you all get to gladly see through Sombeech's video) and for me alone in my life time which consists of probably 12 years of hunting. I figured my personal total of rabbit bagged is aproximately 550. Thats taking into consideration several years of going at least twice.
As far as eating them go's I wouldn't touch this vermon with a 10' spoon but the farmers out there have been ever so grateful. As the exploding rabbit Numbers have been responsible for overturned haystacks, and rampent live stock disease. One of my first years out there. A farmer actually paid us a quarter for every rabbit tail we brought him. 300 tails did little more than pay for our gas and ammo but I didn't care.

o.c.utah
01-03-2008, 09:34 AM
Sorry to be so brash in my first reply, you are not the first to come on a hunting forum and bash hunting. Your statement was textbook animal rights activist.



No offense, but you need to go back and study that textbook. Disagreeing over ethics and such is something hunters have been doing for a long, long time. Some hunters shun ATVs, hike miles in, stalk to within yards, and pack the meat out on their backs. Some people shoot hormone-spiked bulls behind high fences. Both are, arguably, hunting.

fourtycal
01-04-2008, 06:08 AM
No offense, but you need to go back and study that textbook. Disagreeing over ethics and such is something hunters have been doing for a long, long time. Some hunters shun ATVs, hike miles in, stalk to within yards, and pack the meat out on their backs. Some people shoot hormone-spiked bulls behind high fences. Both are, arguably, hunting.

Ok then I retract my previous apology. If you come to a public hunting forum you have to expect there will be all kinds of "hunting". If you are a hunter but think that hunting/killing bears, lions, mangy coyotes or even vermin just for fun, has crossed some sort of line and can't hold your yourself from bashing on hunters that post an excellent and well documented report of their trip, you need to avoid public hunting forums. All you will accomplish is to discourage people from posting reports that many of us love to see.

greyhair biker
01-25-2008, 11:46 AM
Jack rabbits up here are definitely vermin. Big as a coyote and mean...and up here they have antlers :lol8: Really though, they breed like....well....rabbits, and cause much more problems than good. Cottontails are good eats and arent near as damaging when you hit the pack of 'em with your vehicle. Jacks will do body damage, not to mention that they are just mangey things. No permit required for jacks like you need for cottontails.
....hmmm, lets see...can you guess where MY sympathies lie?
BTW, I agree with Fourtycal %100 on this one :five:

Rev. Coyote
02-04-2008, 01:29 PM
No offense, but you need to go back and study that textbook. Disagreeing over ethics and such is something hunters have been doing for a long, long time. Some hunters shun ATVs, hike miles in, stalk to within yards, and pack the meat out on their backs. Some people shoot hormone-spiked bulls behind high fences. Both are, arguably, hunting.

Ok then I retract my previous apology. If you come to a public hunting forum you have to expect there will be all kinds of "hunting". If you are a hunter but think that hunting/killing bears, lions, mangy coyotes or even vermin just for fun, has crossed some sort of line and can't hold your yourself from bashing on hunters that post an excellent and well documented report of their trip, you need to avoid public hunting forums. All you will accomplish is to discourage people from posting reports that many of us love to see.

Wow, .40 cal -- you get awfully defensive defending blood sport. I'm not some PETA motherf***er either, but like "o.c. utah" recognize a difference between real hunting and just engaging in killing for killing's sake. One activity has a purpose, the other is just masturbation. Getting yourself off just killing animals and leaving them to rot is morally reprehensible, and there are MANY of us in the hunting community that will call BS here. Blood sport wankers only serve to make traditional hunting indefensible -- and we don't need that.

Catch it? Eat it!

Y'all have a blessed day!

Rev. Coyote
02-04-2008, 01:38 PM
On cooking and eating bunnies: We eat them here in the South, but then we also eat squirrels. Real Brunswick stew contains squirrel meat. Both critters can contain some nasty parasites, so winter hunting and thorough cooking are a must.

We went through the Civil War, and learned to eat damn near anything since the Yankees (sorry JP) decided to burn or steal everything. One thing we'd never eat, though, is dog. We love our dogs almost as much as our kids.

Gutpiler_Utahn
02-04-2008, 02:16 PM
I've had sharpei (sp?) and have to say it was pretty good. I didn't eat it knowingly, but if I was in that kind of a situation, I would eat a dog without problem. Looked like pork, tasted like chicken.

fourtycal
02-04-2008, 05:25 PM
One thing we'd never eat, though, is dog. We love our dogs almost as much as our kids.

Good looking hound there Rev. Here is mine, almost fat enough :eat:

Sombeech
02-04-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm just glad my video keeps getting bumped into the spotlight. :lol8:

Rev. Coyote
02-05-2008, 03:31 PM
One thing we'd never eat, though, is dog. We love our dogs almost as much as our kids.

Good looking hound there Rev. Here is mine, almost fat enough :eat:

That is an excellent looking dog!!!

My hound is fat
so now I'll dine
and eat up all
this hound o' mine.

Reedus
02-05-2008, 08:58 PM
I'll openly admit it, I have a blood lust and love to kill Jacks simply for the fun of killing small defenseless animals. It is especially humorous when you hit em just right and they flip and flop all over the place. I guess that makes me one sick "reprehensible" bastard. :mrgreen:

Rev. Coyote
02-06-2008, 07:42 AM
I'll openly admit it, I have a blood lust and love to kill Jacks simply for the fun of killing small defenseless animals. It is especially humorous when you hit em just right and they flip and flop all over the place. I guess that makes me one sick "reprehensible" bastard.

Reed;

Your honesty is refreshing and commendable, but surely you're not a "bastard." It's great to see someone who enjoys this activity call it what it is and be unapologetic about the kicks they get from bunny blasting.

In the future, may I recommend the plinking of old television sets?

Rev. Coyote
Asshat-in-Residence

Reedus
02-06-2008, 03:10 PM
TV set are fun too, as well as campers (see tannerite thread). It doesn't matter what you shoot or blow up, someone somewhere will find something reprehensible about it and start bitching and moaning. The big carpet meister for one can't find the fun or humor in destruction fo inanimate objects. What do you do? :ne_nau:

Rev. Coyote
02-06-2008, 03:15 PM
The big carpet meister for one can't find the fun or humor in destruction fo inanimate objects. What do you do?

Welll, I will admit to one little sick thrill:

--Roofing nails
--Illegal ATV trail
--Fat kid on ATV

CarpeyBiggs
02-06-2008, 05:46 PM
TV set are fun too, as well as campers (see tannerite thread). It doesn't matter what you shoot or blow up, someone somewhere will find something reprehensible about it and start bitching and moaning. The big carpet meister for one can't find the fun or humor in destruction fo inanimate objects. What do you do? :ne_nau:

Cum nah queefus, don't gone missruprasent me. I neer sed it wuddn't FUN. I think we all shud cleen up dem messes, thas all.

Sum times i like to blew me sum shit up two. Like, when I see dem big plains flying in da skie, I just wish me owned a rockit lawncher so I could blast that big ass vessul strate outa da sky. That'd be awsume i think.

accadacca
02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
Welll, I will admit to one little sick thrill:

--Roofing nails
--Illegal ATV trail
--Fat kid on ATV
:roflol:

asdf
02-06-2008, 07:29 PM
I am not not affiliated with peta and I not anti-hunting but damn this is some twisted shit, Slaughtering innocent animals for fun? Pest or no pest thats sick shit.

Reedus
02-06-2008, 07:34 PM
What's with the red neck vocab Big Carpet biter? Implying something that I am not picking up on?

Reedus
02-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Well then, I guess that makes me one sick twisted $#%$- up Red neck bastard, because I do enjoy bunny blasting simply for the blood sport. Kinda like your gay ass couch potato halo guns and war except mine is real. :mrgreen:

shagster
02-06-2008, 07:41 PM
Well then, I guess that makes me one sick twisted $#%$- up Red neck bastard, because I do enjoy bunny blasting simply for the blood sport. Kinda like your gay ass couch potato halo guns and war except mine is real. :mrgreen:

Sorry but I have to back you up on this one, I too love blowing sh_t up on a regular basis, the quicker it moves the funner it is too shoot. :2thumbs: I would much rather go out and shoot a few jacks than sit on the couch and rot my ass away playing video games.

CarpeyBiggs
02-06-2008, 07:56 PM
Kinda like your gay ass couch potato halo guns and war except mine is real.


Sorry but I have to back you up on this one, I too love blowing sh_t up on a regular basis, the quicker it moves the funner it is too shoot. :2thumbs: I would much rather go out and shoot a few jacks than sit on the couch and rot my ass away playing video games.

Ah yes, the typical strawman fallacy... Well said shagster, well said.

Calling someone a gay ass couch potato is a little sophomoric, in my estimation. For what it's worth, I'd be willing to bet Summit gets out and recreates more than just about anyone on this board, so let's not justify your killing of animals by saying that it is better than playing video games.

No need to justify, just man up and call it how it is.

asdf
02-06-2008, 08:11 PM
would much rather go out and shoot a few jacks than sit on the couch and rot my ass away playing video games.

ahemm.... I sit in a chair.

Sombeech
02-06-2008, 08:35 PM
Calling someone a gay ass couch potato is a little sophomoric

I think that's offensive to blacks

Reedus
02-06-2008, 08:46 PM
Wrong thread Carpet biter. I tried to justify blowing up the abandoned camper without cleaning up the mess. I made no justification for shooting varmint jacks. I was referred to as a twisted individual whose actions were sickand wrong and if that is what you want to call me, then so be it. I openly admitted to shooting them simply for the blood lust. :2thumbs:

Sombeech
02-06-2008, 09:06 PM
I'm just a little miffed that nobody's really in this thread because of my video.

CarpeyBiggs
02-06-2008, 10:00 PM
Wrong thread Carpet biter. I tried to justify blowing up the abandoned camper without cleaning up the mess. I made no justification for shooting varmint jacks. I was referred to as a twisted individual whose actions were sickand wrong and if that is what you want to call me, then so be it. I openly admitted to shooting them simply for the blood lust. :2thumbs:

Sorry, I responded to two quotes in one reply, should've been more clear. I was responding to your "fat ass" comment. The justification was in reference to Shagster's eloquent strawman argument, where he appeared to justify his real games by comparing them to other persons fake games. My sincere apologies.

And yes, it's clear you are "twisted," but do you really care if anyone thinks that about you? Seems like you kind of like to celebrate it. :ne_nau:

CarpeyBiggs
02-06-2008, 10:09 PM
I'm just a little miffed that nobody's really in this thread because of my video.

'Beech, I will give you mad props for the idea of a point of view camera. Very creative. My biggest criticism though, is that the camera was not zoomed in far enough to really appreciate the carnage. For me to reach climax, I think I needed a little more blood, possibly some sound of the actual last gasp of breath escaping the lungs, more seizures and random flopping, and more celebration among the shooters.

Overall, I'd give it a B. Excellent idea, but mediocre execution. I have no doubt that your next video will improve upon this technique, and all of us lusting after vermin porn will be fully satisfied during the course of vide, perhaps even multiple times...

Vermin on vermin porn is my favorite kind. Especially when one has a gun. :2thumbs:

Sombeech
02-06-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm just a little miffed that nobody's really in this thread because of my video.

'Beech, I will give you mad props for the idea of a point of view camera. Very creative. My biggest criticism though, is that the camera was not zoomed in far enough to really appreciate the carnage.

I hear ya. I've been trying to get a helmetcam out there for a while now, with the shotgun. The .22 gets 'em, but they just keep runnin.

CarpeyBiggs
02-06-2008, 10:18 PM
I hear ya. I've been trying to get a helmetcam out there for a while now, with the shotgun. The .22 gets 'em, but they just keep runnin.

Brilliant!! Helmetcam on the bunny. It would be an awesome perspective. Just be careful with your shot.

Reedus
02-07-2008, 08:58 AM
Your perception of twisted, not mine, but if you wanna call me twisted and demented, I won't cry about it. I think the big problem here is simply different folks from different cultures/backgrounds. I was raised in a very rural community aka redneckville. I grew up with guns and have hunted for sport my entire life. Others on this board have no doubt never shot a gun and to see the slaughter of innocent animals whether vermin or not seems a little appaling and "twisted". I can appreciate that, but if it isn't your cup of tea, then for hell sakes, don't go parading around on the hunting forum and bitch and moan about it. Most guys on here are like me and don't find a problem with population control for recreation.

CarpeyBiggs
02-07-2008, 09:36 AM
Your perception of twisted, not mine, but if you wanna call me twisted and demented, I won't cry about it. I think the big problem here is simply different folks from different cultures/backgrounds. I was raised in a very rural community aka redneckville. I grew up with guns and have hunted for sport my entire life. Others on this board have no doubt never shot a gun and to see the slaughter of innocent animals whether vermin or not seems a little appaling and "twisted". I can appreciate that, but if it isn't your cup of tea, then for hell sakes, don't go parading around on the hunting forum and bitch and moan about it. Most guys on here are like me and don't find a problem with population control for recreation.

Reed, I didn't say a word on the subject until you mentioned me by name in the thread. And you had already been "labeled" prior to my joining this discussion. I'm not trying to label you as anything you hadn't already accepted and/or celebrated.

As for different cultures/perceptions, you are correct. I've shot a gun maybe a dozen times in my life. I did go through a phase in middle school where I was really into pipe bombs though. Luckily, someone straightened me out before we did any real damage.

I have nothing against people who use guns, shoot up stuff, etc... My issue is with people who are reckless. And specifically, people who show little to no respect for the land. If you fit that category, then yes, I hope you rethink your perspectives.

In regards to specifically killing bunnies, I don't really have an opinion. My goal is to always leave the land better than you found it. Same ethic applies to ATVs. And hikers. And hunters. And bikers. And skiers. And...

Reedus
02-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Fair enough... so when we goin to hit some canyons. I don't take tannerite or guns with me into the slots. :2thumbs:

Jaxx
02-07-2008, 01:20 PM
Vermin on vermin porn
OK now you have my attention.

That's hot...

BEECH! What an awesome video! The only reason I came was because of the sweetness of the video. I stayed for the slingfest :2thumbs:

fouristhenewone
02-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Your perception of twisted, not mine, but if you wanna call me twisted and demented, I won't cry about it. I think the big problem here is simply different folks from different cultures/backgrounds. I was raised in a very rural community aka redneckville. I grew up with guns and have hunted for sport my entire life. Others on this board have no doubt never shot a gun and to see the slaughter of innocent animals whether vermin or not seems a little appaling and "twisted". I can appreciate that, but if it isn't your cup of tea, then for hell sakes, don't go parading around on the hunting forum and bitch and moan about it. Most guys on here are like me and don't find a problem with population control for recreation.

okay. I'm going to wade in here. this is the most common and most bullshit reasoning ever. I grew up in a small town, I have lots of friends who came from the same background. I grew up hunting, ate venison, rabbit, pheasant, squirrel, damn near everything growing up. It gave me no desire to kill animals just for the fun of it. It actually gave me a utter distaste for people who do. killing for killing sake is something we detest in other species, and view as an abnormality. why would it be an acceptable thing for humans to do i?

REDFOX
02-07-2008, 07:30 PM
I went rabbit hunting recently for sport. Provided a huge buffet of tenderized rabbit for the 3 coyotes that we also saw. Had a great time as I was introducing 2 new people to the sport who had never been hunting before. Can't wait for the rabbit porn videos to pour in ! :2thumbs:

Reedus
02-07-2008, 08:20 PM
Sorry for the bullshit reasoning, but if the shoe fits, wear it. I like hunting for sport, I was raised hunting for fun and you aren't going to change my mind about it. Go bitch about your hangup with sport killing on some other forum, cause you are bitchin at a brick wall here. :blahblah:

Reedus
02-07-2008, 08:23 PM
Funny you should mention squirrel, even more fun than hitting a jack from 100 yds with a 22-250 is hitting a tree squirrel at the tippy top of a pine with a pellet gun and watching the poor bastard bounce off every branch on the way down. Sure do get my jollies off that stuff!

fouristhenewone
02-07-2008, 09:06 PM
ah. didn't take long to get to the if you don't like it go somewhere else argument. I guess blood sport isn't the only redneck trait you hold near and dear. well...I guess you right...I will go...wait...naw f it....you don't like me telling you that you're a moron, why don't YOU go somewhere else. or better yet, stay, I have years of talking trash on forums under my belt, might as well use it.

oh, and on the behalf of brick walls everywhere - don't lump them in...

Reedus
02-08-2008, 07:23 AM
I think I have established the fact that I could care less what you call me. It doesn't hurt my feelings. What I don't understand is why people who don't like hunting or blood sport venture into a hunting forum/bunny blasting slaughter thread and are appalled by what they see. You had to know that you would get pissed by Beech's video of bunnies getting annihilated, so why watch and then bitch about it. If it is, as you say, to talk trash and call people morons and twisted, then you guys seriously need to get a life.

fouristhenewone
02-08-2008, 08:13 AM
let's make it clear, in case you are still not getting it. I am all for hunting. This is not hunting we are debating. I'm not for killing things for no good reason.

What can I say, I have always been the kid with the stick poking the hornet's nest.

Not really - again, I'm not going to eat the hornets, so I probably would just leave them alone

CarpeyBiggs
02-08-2008, 09:40 AM
What I don't understand is why people who don't like hunting or blood sport venture into a hunting forum/bunny blasting slaughter thread and are appalled by what they see. You had to know that you would get pissed by Beech's video of bunnies getting annihilated, so why watch and then bitch about it. If it is, as you say, to talk trash and call people morons and twisted, then you guys seriously need to get a life.

Not to talk trash Reed. For me, it's because I assume there are a lot of people who read forums who don't post, and if there are those who sit on the fence on such issues, it's good for them to hear both sides.

Out of curiosity, what makes some animals okay to shoot for blood sport, but not others?

Reedus
02-08-2008, 10:08 AM
Every animal I have ever hunted is for blood sport. I don't go deer hunting because my family is starving, I go for the thrill of the hunt. I happen to eat the deer cause it makes good venison and jerky. Same with cottontails, they make awesome jerky if you prep them the right way. Jacks on the other hand are known carriers of disease. They go through breeding cycles ever 7 or so years where the population explodes and they cause problems with farmers and such. I actually have tried to jerky a jack and well... lets just say i won't try it again. So to answer your question on what is okay and what is not okay. For me it is legality. Jacks are open game.

Question for you: at what point down the line of animals do you draw the line in killing? For most people, a mouse is a no brainer as well as insects. Why, because they are considered rodents and pests. How about fishing? Do you back the state in removing all the carp from Utah lake? They fit the nuisance ticket as well. I say if you are going to shun the killing of nuisance jacks, then by the same ticket you have to shun the taking of any other animal life deemed nuisance.

CarpeyBiggs
02-08-2008, 10:44 AM
Excellent questions Reed. I guess one line is obviously drawn at what is open game and what is not. When I go fishing, I do practice catch and release. In fact, I don't use any form of bait other than lures and artificial flies. I only take a fish if I am going to eat it, and I usually only take a fish if it is mortally wounded. But yeah, I see your point. Fishing just to catch a fish, and then release it, probably crosses a line somewhere. But going out to the river, catching some fish, and then just throwing them on the bank to watch the squirm? Not my cup o' tea.

In regards to the carp at Utah lake, I'm sure there are a few people who enjoying killing them. Again, I'm not one of them. At least, not the type who likes to kill them, then just leave their carcases rotting on the ground. I do hope to see them removed from the lake. The state of Utah does manage the carp, and when the fish are killed, they are used for other things, like fertilizer and fishfood. They don't just let the dead animals rot away somewhere.

Even within the hunting community, there are those who are very respectful of the animals they harvest. I'm sure there are those who are complete asses. Hunting is a valuable exercise. There is much to be learned from hunting with respect. It sustained many our ancestors for a long time, and when done properly, I have no issues with it. My issue is with the celebration of nonsensical killing. I have no doubt this type of killing is a gateway to other ignorant misdeeds.

The line is very easy to discern. Be respectful. Minimize your impact. If you are gong to harvest an animal, do it with respect. My personal feeling is this reflects on one's personality. If you are disrespectful to land and property, animals and inanimate objects, perhaps you are disrespectful to everything. Do you hold anything in reverence?

Reedus
02-08-2008, 11:26 AM
So you are saying that you would have no qualms about bunny blasting provided I loaded all the carcases up, took them home, and ran them through the wood chipper to fertilize the garden? As far as food, they do make it alot easier on the coyotes when the buffet is provided for them.

CarpeyBiggs
02-08-2008, 11:32 AM
So you are saying that you would have no qualms about bunny blasting provided I loaded all the carcases up, took them home, and ran them through the wood chipper to fertilize the garden? As far as food, they do make it alot easier on the coyotes when the buffet is provided for them.
Like I said before, I don't really have an opinion on the bunnies. I do have an opinion on being respectful though.

And aren't coyotes open game too? Why would we want to do them any favors? I don't think we need to do any wildlife any favors, in terms of providing them free food. They are wild, afterall.

Reedus
02-08-2008, 11:44 AM
Good rabbit hunting one year (in terms of leaving rotting carcasses where they lie) means good coyote hunting the next. Big vicious reprehensible cycle.

stefan
02-08-2008, 05:41 PM
Question for you: at what point down the line of animals do you draw the line in killing? For most people, a mouse is a no brainer as well as insects. Why, because they are considered rodents and pests.

considered rodents? they ARE rodents ... mice, that is, ... they are part of the Order of mammals Rodentia with "rodent" being a common name. (note: dent in this case refers to tooth, as they are gnawing mammals)

now, beavers are also rodents ... would killin' a beaver be a no brainer?

is it more that they are small mammals that folks in general have no issues?



i don't have anything really to add to the thread, so i am piping in with this, but i will say it's an interesting read.

Gutpiler_Utahn
02-08-2008, 06:52 PM
I think one of the issues that is overlooked here is just what reed said. These rabbits don't just lie there and rot away. They are eaten by the local wildlife that eat meat. Coyotes, insects, fox, ground squirrels, & even other jacks will come in and eat what they need to survive. From that aspect, population control not only helps the farmers and ranchers, but it also helps the local wildlife populations. There's less competition for food/territory and it makes it easier for the young of the year predators to survive the winter.

And by the by, I'm REALLY lookin forward to getting out there for some jack hunting with the new AR. :twisted: :2thumbs: :nod:

fouristhenewone
02-08-2008, 09:14 PM
yes. I'm sure that taking care of coyotes, fox and ground squirrels is high on your list of concerns. too bad most insects are a little too small to be a target for you guys. guess you better hold on for the hummingbird moth migration.

JP
02-09-2008, 07:40 PM
I'm just a little miffed that nobody's really in this thread because of my video.
I was hoping to see a new one :haha:

I understand where you're coming from Reed :2thumbs:

Rev. Coyote
02-11-2008, 07:01 PM
I think the big problem here is simply different folks from different cultures/backgrounds.

OK, kiddo, you blew it right here with the "culture" excuse. Admit it gives you a woodie to blast rabbits with no intent to eat them, fine. But calling it "culture" is the same as Michael Vick trying to excuse dogfighting as culture. Same as the trash around the Shenandoah Valley that calls cockfighting "cultural." Same as the West VA uncle that calls diddling his 13-year-old niece "culture."

Urban redneck wannabes are very irritating to those of us who really have lived the backwoods lifestyle.

Kill it? EAT it!

JP
02-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Kill it? EAT it!
Not always :mrgreen: Coyotes need to eat too :haha:

Rev. Coyote
02-12-2008, 05:54 AM
Kill it? EAT it!
Not always :mrgreen: Coyotes need to eat too :haha:

JP -- Yes, my people need to eat. But we like to run 'em down live.

stefan
02-12-2008, 09:12 AM
I think one of the issues that is overlooked here is just what reed said. These rabbits don't just lie there and rot away. They are eaten by the local wildlife that eat meat. Coyotes, insects, fox, ground squirrels, & even other jacks will come in and eat what they need to survive. From that aspect, population control not only helps the farmers and ranchers, but it also helps the local wildlife populations. There's less competition for food/territory and it makes it easier for the young of the year predators to survive the winter.


okay, sounds like two angles here. (1) you're trying to engineer ecology here and (2) you're trying to justify leaving carcass by helping out those in need.

i know hunting has stood behind a shroud of population control for ages, and the engineering experiment has been on-going for some time. while i have my reservations about this, i guess it's your other angle i just don't buy. though the context and location is different, it simply boils down to "feeding the animals." while the affects are clearly devastating in parks where animals become very dependent on humans for food, i would expect that to a smaller, though not inconsequential extent something similar is going on with your leaving carcass.

i guess the question is, why is it reasonable for us to help some of the population survive and get stronger? altruism, engineering, or rationalization for carelessness.

my feeling is that our society has so meddled with these populations that folks have bought into the ecological engineering and, moreover, that some are willing to take it a few steps further to justify feeding the animals ... with the motives not being altruistic.

while the population-control meddling has deep roots which would take a long time to extract, i would think this type of feeding-the-animals meddling might be going too far.

MY T PIMP
02-12-2008, 09:19 AM
Kill it? EAT it!
http://www.wpclipart.com/animals/bugs/M/mosquito/mosquito_bite.png
http://www.ibdhost.com/demo/gallery/albums/bugs/cockroach.jpg
Your discrimination of Wildlife amuses me. :roflol:

Reedus
02-12-2008, 10:50 AM
Damn it Reverend! I already openly professed that I like to kill Jacks for the blood lust aspect. By mentioning the "culture" idea I was simply implying the reason I am desensitized to bunny hunting. I shot rabbits from the backyard since I can remember for pest reasons, but I also remember the ole man taking me and my friends out to Grouse Creek and Lucin to blast the hell out of them just for fun and because the were so bloody many of them.

Sombeech
12-24-2010, 12:21 PM
it's a pretty hot topic on youtube right now. I'm just reading the comments that are coming in daily

accadacca
12-27-2010, 04:40 PM
Gun Cam 2000. :haha:

JP
04-22-2011, 10:15 AM
Can't wait :lol8:

Sombeech
04-25-2011, 02:33 PM
Dang, I'm just sad I didn't capture this in HD back in the day. We need another trip this year.

JP
04-25-2011, 02:34 PM
Yes you do :lol8:

larblah
04-25-2011, 03:44 PM
Need a gopro mount for my rifle.

Sombeech
04-26-2011, 04:20 PM
Need a gopro mount for my rifle.

I'm thinking the seat post mount would work great.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014F5WIA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=bogloutdcomm-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399349&creativeASIN=B0014F5WIA

But the problem with the gopro is unless the target is within say 40 feet, it will be a tiny blip on the screen because of the wide angle.