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10-06-2006, 03:28 PM
This Elk was killed with a bow in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. He green scored 575" and should net out at about 530" non typical. He has an unbelievable outside spread of 79". This is the biggest bull ever taken with any weapon.

10-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Wow that is a monster. What is the source of this?

10-06-2006, 09:30 PM
Wow that is a monster. What is the source of this?
That's me on the left....

nah just got it via email. :ne_nau:

10-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Yeah, then you'll come to find out that they're about 40 feet behind the elk. :haha:

Brian in SLC
10-11-2006, 09:08 AM
This Elk was killed with a bow in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness.

Any idear where? Wonder if it was north or south in the range? I grew up in Msla and have spent a ton of time in the Bitterroot range...

Man, that's a big elk...

-Brian in SLC

Brian in SLC
10-11-2006, 09:57 AM
Thought it smelled fishy...

From Boone and Crocket...

"This photo is circulating the internet at World's Record pace. The text accompanying the photo states that it was taken in the Selway Wilderness in Idaho with a bow and scores somewhere between 530-575.
B&C is reserving judgment on this bull. If this bull were, in fact, taken as a natural, free-ranging, wild, native elk from the Selway region of Idaho, it would be approximately 130-150 inches bigger than any elk ever recorded from that region.

UPDATE: This bull was raised in a high-fenced environment in Quebec, and therefore ineligible to be entered into B&C's records program."

From Billings Gazette:


Brian in SLC
10-11-2006, 10:07 AM
Bit more on this, from the Spokesman (my sis's boyfriend is editor):

-Brian in SLC

Oct. 5, 2006

By Rich Landers
Outdoors editor
The Spokesman-Review

News travels fast by the Internet and e-mail. So do rumors and lies.

The latest hunting-related fib to come across my computer screen is a
photo of two hunters with a monster elk accompanied by this message:

"This Elk was killed with a bow in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. He
green scored 575 .... He has an unbelievable outside spread of 79
inches. This is the biggest bull ever taken with any weapon."

The reference to the Selway is the first clue that at least some of the
information is bogus.

"That was a big red flag to us," said Brad Compton, Idaho Fish and Game
Department big-game manager who also had received the digital image.
"That would be 150 points bigger than any bull that's ever come out of
the Selway. It's too farfetched."

"Anybody who knows anything about Selway elk could take one look at
bull and know that information is wrong," said Ryan Hatfield of the
Boone and Crockett Club in Missoula. Hatfield, who just finished
researching and publishing a book about trophy elk taken in Idaho, said
he'd received at least 150 e-mails regarding the so-called Selway elk
in the past few days.

After some sleuthing on Tuesday and a tip from a game rancher in
Riggins, I found the source of the photo and the bull: Laurentian
Wildlife Estate, which has operated as a shooter-bull ranch for six
years near Mont Tremblant, Quebec, Canada.

In a telephone interview, Laurentian manager Tony Barber (at left in
photo) said his California client killed the bull earlier this year
inside the 1,000-acre estate, which is enclosed by a game-proof fence
to hold the domestically produced elk and red deer.

The elk is a Manitoba strain, not the Rocky Mountain subspecies native
to Idaho, Barber said while offering the following details.

The bull was 10 years old and weighed 595 pounds. Its non-typical
antlers had 12 points on one side, 9 on the other with an outside
spread of 79 inches.

The bull has been monitored closely as it matured. "We picked up its
shed antlers last year and they measured 516 (Boone and Crockett
points)," Barber said.

Here are other numbers to ponder:

Barber said the bull's Boone and Crockett score is at least 560 green,
that is, before the drying and shrinkage required for official scoring.
(Two unofficial measurers scored it 566 and 561 green, he said.)

For comparison, the Boone and Crockett world record bull, found floating
dead in Upper Arrow Lake, British Columbia, scored 465 2/8.

The biggest fair-chase bull to be taken by a hunter came from Arizona.
It scored 450 6/8.

Cost to hunt elk on the Quebec shooter-bull operation starts at $4,900,
but prices for trophy bulls are negotiated, as Barber put it, "into the
high five-digits."

If the unofficial measurements hold up, the bull's dry-score antlers
"would be the biggest ever taken by a hunter," Barber said.

Most sportsmen, however, take exception to his reference to "hunter."

Indeed, sportsmen who hunt the old-fashioned way for elk that run wild
and free won't have to compete in the official North American record
books against this farm-raised specimen.

"Boone and Crockett does not keep hunting records of animals that come
from behind escape-proof fencing," Hatfield said.

10-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Dirty sons of... While hunting in Idaho on openning day we came across a new hunting ranch. The fence line runs parallel w/ an access road and is around 100 ft to the right. While driving up around 5:30 AM we saw nearly 20 wild deer cornered against the outside of the pen. We went up the road a mile or so and found nice spot to wait for daybreak. Needless to say, around 6:20 the mountains were echoing like a shooting range w/ all the shots originating from the road. It was pretty sickening.

I've actually seen 2 of those videos highlighted by real-hunters and they do a pretty good editing job. I was already against hunting ranches but that video seals the deal.

10-17-2006, 03:12 PM
I knew this would end up here on this site. There are also rumors about this elk and the high fence are it came from that this isnt the only picture of this elk. There are pictures of other hunters with this same elk, some with the elk even in velvet. All I have to say is this is rediculous.