brokeback mountain

[hesse15]

i saw the movie and i found it really great and sad.
is just interesting for me why men get so freak out about male gays
when i was home i watched a movie with my father (71years old) with leasbian having sex and he did not find anything disgousting (were cute chicks) but he will not ever never watch any with male involved .
I do not see much difference
I can justify my father attitude because is from a different century(he also saw the war) but i do not get it why still nowdays joung guys get so much troubles with male homosexuality and sometime they react in a very violent way
it is because all the macho cowboy heritage or is an underneath fear of find out to be one?
by the way was really embarassing when i was home that utah become famous worldwide because they canceled the movie from a theater.
any comments from this male majority high testosterone community?

[DirkHammergate]

it is because all the macho cowboy heritage or is an underneath fear of find out to be one?
by the way was really embarrassing when i was home that utah become famous worldwide because they canceled the movie from a theater.
any comments from this male majority high testosterone community?

I haven't seen it yet, my wife really, really wants to see it. It looks good, I had a friend tell me it was in line with Million Dollar Baby, Monsters Ball, et al, great story but a total downer that will win an Oscar.

My only comment on the LHM pulling of the movie is that he didn't seem to have a problem with running Closer where Jude Law re-enacts real life with detached hetero sex, adultery, and male debauchery throughout the whole film. I find the hypocrisy amusing.

[Red Deer]

Howdy,

ASSUMING one can consider men in love without experiencing revulsion (no problem here, but hey) then I'd recommend this as a great love story / tragedy. And the cinematography of Wyoming is freaking incredible!

I'd like to believe that this movie might raise folks' awareness that gay men are as human as the rest of us. Sadly, the only folks who can watch it and get that message are probably open minded enough to not need the message in the first place.

All in all - an A, maybe A+ movie in my book. YMMV.

Happy Trails,
Reid

[marc olivares]

Sadly, the only folks who can watch it and get that message are probably open minded enough to not need the message in the first place.


you hit the nail on the head right here!

my wife and i saw it a few weeks back and we both really enjoyed it.
it was sad but shot very nicely.

[rockgremlin]

I would like to see it just because it was directed by the same guy that did Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I really like his style. That said, I don't really care that it's about gay guys. What I CAN'T live with is all of the male/male kissing scenes....blah!! :puke: Ok, I get the picture. They are gay. But you don't have to show two dudes playing tonsil-hockey in order for me to get the picture. Just leave that part out please...

[DickHead]

it is because all the macho cowboy heritage or is an underneath fear of find out to be one?
by the way was really embarrassing when i was home that utah become famous worldwide because they canceled the movie from a theater.
any comments from this male majority high testosterone community?

I haven't seen it yet, my wife really, really wants to see it. It looks good, I had a friend tell me it was in line with Million Dollar Baby, Monsters Ball, et al, great story but a total downer that will win an Oscar.

My only comment on the LHM pulling of the movie is that he didn't seem to have a problem with running Closer where Jude Law re-enacts real life with detached hetero sex, adultery, and male debauchery throughout the whole film. I find the hypocrisy amusing.

LHM is a hypocryte. His theatre is showing Hostel. He's shown other such works as SAW. His shitty resturant sells watered down Liqour. Family values my ass. Hypocryte!

As far as the movie, I'm ust totally indifferent. I just don't care about Homosexuals. They can do whatever the hell they want. I'm not into love story movies, whether its a couple guys or a hetero couple. I like Bullets, Bombs and Boobs in my movies.

[DickHead]

I would like to see it just because it was directed by the same guy that did Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I really like his style. That said, I don't really care that it's about gay guys. What I CAN'T live with is all of the male/male kissing scenes....blah!! :puke: Ok, I get the picture. They are gay. But you don't have to show two dudes playing tonsil-hockey in order for me to get the picture. Just leave that part out please...

Then why does Hollywood have to show a man/woman making out? To prove they are married/dating/straight?

[Sombeech]

I just don't think the movie looks good enough for me to see it.

If I thought it would be a great movie, I'd go watch it. I'm just not a Heath Ledger fan.

Also, it's funny how this film has gotten a lot of political attention. Even Pres Bush was asked if he saw it. Certain people are claiming this movie is "Such a great Victory".

Ethnic people are usually the only people who bring up race lately. Us whiteys just don't care. We're fine either way. We'll just continue to go to work and school, and live our life.

This is the same with gays screaming discrimination, just because the straights aren't motivated to support gay pride. :roll:

But anyways, I just wasn't captivated by the trailer enough to watch it. Just like I won't go see "Glory Road", "Final Destination 3", or "Hostel".

[accadacca]

I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend."

[DirkHammergate]

I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend."

Orientation is a trend? Some people "might" be legitimately gay?

This place is suddenly getting interesting...

[Sombeech]

I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend."

Believe it or not, some gays are actually LOOKING to get infected with HIV. They call it "the gift". I'm serious! It's happening in San Fran.

Whether or not it's a choice, homosexuality is IN. It's cool to be gay, and boring to be straight, white, male, and middle class. Oh, and religious.

[DirkHammergate]

Whether or not it's a choice, homosexuality is IN. It's cool to be gay, and boring to be straight, white, male, and middle class. Oh, and religious.

I must be totally out of touch, I've never thought of orientation as a fad or In or its cool to be gay. I thought Bi was more envogue too.... I've been trying to get my wife to kiss a hottie for years now.

[Sombeech]

I've been trying to get my wife to kiss a hottie for years now.

Does she have my number? :lol8:

[DirkHammergate]

Does she have my number? :lol8:

Yeah, 801NoF*@way?

[cachehiker]

One of my best friends called and wanted to see it. Her and I have a habit of seeing the "less than comfortable" movies together and I couldn't say no. She won't take her boyfriend but she'll take me. What does that make me anyway?

It was a good show. Acting was good. Story was novel. Cinematography was excellent. If kissing counts as a homosexual scene, then it counts as heterosexual one too. Given this assumption, I think if I counted there would be as many if not more heterosexual scenes as homosexual ones in the movie.

Did anybody out there see the movie "Kinsey" as well? This was another show we saw together and it shot far wider of my comfort zone than "Brokeback Mountain" did. It concerned a certain renowned sexologist and his studies on sexuality in America and elsewhere.

What do you think of his assertion that where 0=totally heterosexual and 6=totally homosexual there is a whole spectrum of sexualities ranging from 1-5? I'm a 0 but I can believe there are lots of 4's who live a heterosexual lifestyle because of societal pressures. I can also believe there are lots of 2's who live a homosexual lifestyle solely because it represents the counter culture, especially here in Utah.

[Sombeech]

I'm a 0 but I can believe there are lots of 4's who live a heterosexual lifestyle because of societal pressures. I can also believe there are lots of 2's who live a homosexual lifestyle solely because it represents the counter culture, especially here in Utah.

I'd believe that. There's an opposite to all things.

[hesse15]

I would like to see it just because it was directed by the same guy that did Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I really like his style. That said, I don't really care that it's about gay guys. What I CAN'T live with is all of the male/male kissing scenes....blah!! :puke: Ok, I get the picture. They are gay. But you don't have to show two dudes playing tonsil-hockey in order for me to get the picture. Just leave that part out please...

Then why does Hollywood have to show a man/woman making out? To prove they are married/dating/straight?

telling you the truth in the movie there are more sex scene with man /female than between the guys
,the good of the movie is that beside an initial violent scene after you knw that they do but you never see it.meanwhile you see the women naked boobs etc

[hesse15]

I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend."

Believe it or not, some gays are actually LOOKING to get infected with HIV. They call it "the gift". I'm serious! It's happening in San Fran.

Whether or not it's a choice, homosexuality is IN. It's cool to be gay, and boring to be straight, white, male, and middle class. Oh, and religious.
i disagree with you,infact nowdays statistics say are more the hetero getting infected than the gays.
gays community promote use of safety measures a lot meanwhile a lot of straight guys they do not do that.
talking about utah there are a lot of gays that are married with kids and at night they go in chats looking for boys!!!
that is sad.
I see the gay parade and all the talks similar to the feminist movement in the 60 after they got accepted the tunes go back normal but at least now days women can have a position a carreer and study at the university all the major and not only domestic economy.
i do not really care what people does in their home if they are more than 18years old
i do not do but i am glad of the freedom to being able to do it if i want
it is sad that still nowdays church and politics have such a big fear of that.

[Sombeech]

i disagree with you,infact nowdays statistics say are more the hetero getting infected than the gays.

Really? I haven't come across that statistic yet. The problem with HIV passing through heterosexuality, is that it is very difficult for the woman to pass it to the man.

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.

[Superriffic S*]

...

[hesse15]

i disagree with you,infact nowdays statistics say are more the hetero getting infected than the gays.

Really? I haven't come across that statistic yet. The problem with HIV passing through heterosexuality, is that it is very difficult for the woman to pass it to the man.

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.
is true that is easier for a women to get it but happens also the opposite
in an infection process a lot of things going on including the viral load that is the amount of virus in the body
like if the person is on treatment the viral load is low but if the person does not know (you can have it for 5 years before have any syntoms sometime) can be untreated and really high.
and the receiver immunutary defence are also in play so if the person has a low defense can get it easily.
now days beside oyu do not die anymore if you can get afford drugs
and the michael jordan player he got it for screwing around too many women whithout protection.
but mostly the church at the beginning was sayng that was a god punishment for being gays (at least the catholic one) now days with all the new infections between hetero they change it a little.
a lot of people also got infected trough blood transfusion transplant dentist procedures or people that they were selling white cells out of their blood
or having an open wound expose to other blood
here is the 2004 report from cdc if you have time
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/2004SurveillanceReport.pdf

[savanna3313]

i disagree with you,infact nowdays statistics say are more the hetero getting infected than the gays.

Really? I haven't come across that statistic yet. The problem with HIV passing through heterosexuality, is that it is very difficult for the woman to pass it to the man.

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.

If this is a correct statement, my advice to people who want to belong to the "infected community" need to spend the last days with someone dying from the AIDS virus. I had a very close friend who died from AIDS 10 yrs ago in New Orleans. I never thought of Sal as gay or straight....he was just "Sal" a wonderful friend. By the time he passed away, he had gone deaf, almost totally blind, weighed 79 lbs (he was 6' tall) and was bedridden.....a mere ghost of his former self.

[DirkHammergate]

Okay, as a woman I feel that my opinion is needed in this thread, since no other women have given theirs... I will give mine..

First off, wasn't this thread started by a woman? Second, hasn't Savanna and Hesse stated their opinions in multiple posts? Their input has been excellant, just sayin...

I mentioned that this board suddenly got interesting when Accadda made this statement: "I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend." i.e. a "trend" and the use of the word "might" when discussing sexual orientation. I honestly find it shocking people still discuss it in these terms. I can give you a couple of personal examples of friends who went on missions, did BYU, got married and later came out after years of trying to cure the "sickness". In one instance I told an old missionary friend not to marry his fiance, he did and it ended with some pretty sad consequences. He was doing anything but following a fad or a trend and it caused him and his family many problems. From the people I know who are gay I know for a fact they aren't following a trend if anything they tried to conform to societal norms and didn't know what the hell was wrong with them.

I do think this thread has taken a subtle turn towards offensiveness on a personal level. I could accept broader statements like "Hollywood is protraying the gay lifestyle as in vogue" not that personal individuals who are gay are somehow forcing that on a straight majority. Seeing it as a Trend, fad, or some sort of peer pressure minimizes the issue where you can't even have a real discussion about it.

Back to the movie, does Anne Hathaway really show her tits? If so, I'll go..

[DirkHammergate]

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.

I'm not even going to touch this one cause its simply untrue, unsubstantiated heresay propaganda... give me a link/study anything that could substantiate this claim.

[nitmik]

Okay, as a woman I feel that my opinion is needed in this thread, since no other women have given theirs... I will give mine..

First off, wasn't this thread started by a woman? Second, hasn't Savanna and Hesse stated their opinions in multiple posts? Their input has been excellant, just sayin...

I mentioned that this board suddenly got interesting when Accadda made this statement: "I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend." i.e. a "trend" and the use of the word "might" when discussing sexual orientation. I honestly find it shocking people still discuss it in these terms. I can give you a couple of personal examples of friends who went on missions, did BYU, got married and later came out after years of trying to cure the "sickness". In one instance I told an old missionary friend not to marry his fiance, he did and it ended with some pretty sad consequences. He was doing anything but following a fad or a trend and it caused him and his family many problems. From the people I know who are gay I know for a fact they aren't following a trend if anything they tried to conform to societal norms and didn't know what the hell was wrong with them.

I do think this thread has taken a subtle turn towards offensiveness on a personal level. I could accept broader statements like "Hollywood is protraying the gay lifestyle as in vogue" not that personal individuals who are gay are somehow forcing that on a straight majority. Seeing it as a Trend, fad, or some sort of peer pressure minimizes the issue where you can't even have a real discussion about it.

Back to the movie, does Anne Hathaway really show her tits? If so, I'll go..

Nicely said, I thought this thread was taking stupid to a new level.

[Shan]

My best friend in college, her dad was gay. Though he tried to live a straight life - even got married and had 2 kids. Finally decided he couldn't fake it anymore. The mom and dad are still good friends, and my friend was raised by him during her teens.



The statistics on HIV infections I have read show an increased rate in the number of hetero sexual contact cases, but the largest group (by numbers) is still men in the homo sexual contact category.

I still haven't heard this "gays wanting the gift" thing.

I also didn't realize sexual orientation changes based on society's trends. :roll: Perhaps in college some people may be "experiemental" but that's been going on for decades and is definitely not new fad.



The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

You're saying a hetero male could not have gotten HIV from a woman?

[nitmik]

So in looking at the whole world as a whole, maybe it's a trend that us men like women, it was set in the bible and it was just trendy. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm attracted to their parts.

[Shan]

nitmik - I can see you picking up a woman, "Hey baby, those are some nice parts you got there.." :naughty:

[DirkHammergate]

nitmik - I can see you picking up a woman, "Hey baby, those are some nice parts you got there.." :naughty:

He'd be talking about her Bicycle..

[nitmik]

nitmik - I can see you picking up a woman, "Hey baby, those are some nice parts you got there.." :naughty:

He'd be talking about her Bicycle..

That's some nice carbon you have there baby :2thumbs:

[nitmik]

nitmik - I can see you picking up a woman, "Hey baby, those are some nice parts you got there.." :naughty:

Sorry, I just can't believe that I read that being gay is trendy, but there are some legitimate gays out there, just a few, most will come back to our team when the trend is over <------ lots of sarcasm

[icthys]

Okay, as a woman I feel that my opinion is needed in this thread, since no other women have given theirs... I will give mine..

First off, wasn't this thread started by a woman? Second, hasn't Savanna and Hesse stated their opinions in multiple posts? Their input has been excellant, just sayin...

I mentioned that this board suddenly got interesting when Accadda made this statement: "I am not into trends. I think that being gay is just trendy right now. Now there might be some that are legitimately gay..........I guess. But I just think that many people are following the current "trend." i.e. a "trend" and the use of the word "might" when discussing sexual orientation. I honestly find it shocking people still discuss it in these terms. I can give you a couple of personal examples of friends who went on missions, did BYU, got married and later came out after years of trying to cure the "sickness". In one instance I told an old missionary friend not to marry his fiance, he did and it ended with some pretty sad consequences. He was doing anything but following a fad or a trend and it caused him and his family many problems. From the people I know who are gay I know for a fact they aren't following a trend if anything they tried to conform to societal norms and didn't know what the hell was wrong with them.

I do think this thread has taken a subtle turn towards offensiveness on a personal level. I could accept broader statements like "Hollywood is protraying the gay lifestyle as in vogue" not that personal individuals who are gay are somehow forcing that on a straight majority. Seeing it as a Trend, fad, or some sort of peer pressure minimizes the issue where you can't even have a real discussion about it.

Back to the movie, does Anne Hathaway really show her tits? If so, I'll go..

Nicely said, I thought this thread was taking stupid to a new level.

I'm not speaking for Acc nor am I taking his side or anyones side. I saw his comments as an opinion or observation. I can't tell you how many, mainly girls/women, I see pretending to be gay/lesbian. They do it for one reason, to attract the guys. Guys see two women holdin hands and kissin, it flips some kind of fantasy switch on and the guys will give those girls all kinds of attention. Why wouldn't girls adapt that stratagy for picking guys up, which makes it a fad or trend.

It's no secret the gay lifestyle is becoming more noticeable and common. I do think that it's because gay people are feeling more comfortable and are accepted for who they are. It's not easy to hide or repress who you are when society rejects that. I applaud the gay community for what they have accomplished.

As for Brokeback Mountain, I'd like to see it, I'm not crazy about dudes kissing, but I am crazy about seeing Anne nude. Is she really nude? I want to see is because I don't mind a love story, and I bet the Wyoming scenery is quite beautiful also, plus a good movie is a good movie...gosh.

[Shan]

I can't tell you how many, mainly girls/women, I see pretending to be gay/lesbian. They do it for one reason, to attract the guys.

I can think of another reason... maybe they're deep down attracted to women themselves. I can't see a totally anti-gay woman doing this just to get a guy to look at her.

[DirkHammergate]

As for Brokeback Mountain, I'd like to see it, I'm not crazy about dudes kissing, but I am crazy about seeing Anne nude. Is she really nude? I want to see is because I don't mind a love story, and I bet the Wyoming scenery is quite beautiful also, plus a good movie is a good movie...gosh.

I googled it and apparently she is...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anne+hathaway+nude+in+brokeback

[hesse15]

First off, wasn't this thread started by a woman? Second, hasn't Savanna and Hesse stated their opinions in multiple posts? Their input has been excellant, just sayin...



Back to the movie, does Anne Hathaway really show her tits? If so, I'll go..
michelle williams shos full tits meanwhile the hataway they cut the scene as soon she take out her bra when she is in the car taking advantage of one of the guy
quoting
superterrific:
by the way the good of the movie as i told before is that you do not see much the guys doing homo but doing heterosex
but you know that they do you just do not see that beside one time only
so is not comparable to a tv channel that show porno movies
by the way i do not like porno channel either if there are heterosex ,it is just too much fake and this movie is not a porno movie at all
by the way i liked million dollar (cryed so badly ) that put the right to die in a different perspective
closer: was really european kind of style
but i usually like movies that make me to think [/quote]

[Sombeech]

The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

You're saying a hetero male could not have gotten HIV from a woman?
No, I'm saying that most of the time, it's from the male to female. This is actually true.


The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman

I believe the heterosexual transmission is increasing because of drug use, and also mixing a little bisexual activity in there.

But MTV won't tell you that.

[Sombeech]

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.

I'm not even going to touch this one cause its simply untrue, unsubstantiated heresay propaganda... give me a link/study anything that could substantiate this claim.

Sorry, it was on Michael Medved's radio show about a year ago. If I had more time, I could look into it, but I don't have a link right now.
Here's a link to Michael Medved's page. Maybe it's on there still. http://www.michaelmedved.com/

[Sombeech]

actually, tune in right now to AM 1430. Michael Medved is on right now, talking about some of this stuff.

[hesse15]

The male, on the other hand, is responsible most of the time for passing it to the woman, for obvious reasons. The male has to "receive" it from other methods than "heterosexual" actions.

But what I was really talking about, a few posts ago, was that some gays are actively seeking the virus, and getting infected by it, to be part of the "infected community". Sad.

I'm not even going to touch this one cause its simply untrue, unsubstantiated heresay propaganda... give me a link/study anything that could substantiate this claim.

Sorry, it was on Michael Medved's radio show about a year ago. If I had more time, I could look into it, but I don't have a link right now.
Here's a link to Michael Medved's page. Maybe it's on there still. http://www.michaelmedved.com/
it does not sounds like a very scientific real way to get information
i trus cdc more
beside for shan the statistics are made from who get the test not the real number of people and gays because they know the risk take tested more than hetero does
drugs was true at the time of injected like in europe eroin
now days you sniff most of them or you smoke
in greek history and roman history homsexuallity was verycommon
and in europe homosex was condemmed just by the church and nazists
they kill them like they do with jews.

[accadacca]

Alright, I guess I will clarify. What I was trying to say is that the "gay scene" is popular right now. We are getting bombarded with gay tv shows, gay movies, gay marriage etc, etc, etc. Hollywood, MTV, HBO, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and many others are capitalizing on this and I think it is making an impact on society. Why are these shows more popular than others..... :ne_nau:

I mean no one can debate the amount of homosexual content currently available.

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gaytv/a/gaytv.htm

http://www.metroweekly.com/feature/?ak=636

http://www.queery.com/sybfusion.cgi?templ=q-tvgayguide.tpl&category=Q-tvgayguide

[DirkHammergate]

Alright, I guess I will clarify. What I was trying to say is that the "gay scene" is popular right now. We are getting bombarded with gay tv shows, gay movies, gay marriage etc, etc, etc. Hollywood, MTV, HBO, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and many others are capitalizing on this and I think it is making an impact on society. Why are these shows more popular than others..... :ne_nau:

I mean no one can debate the amount of homosexual content currently available.

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gaytv/a/gaytv.htm

http://www.metroweekly.com/feature/?ak=636

http://www.queery.com/sybfusion.cgi?templ=q-tvgayguide.tpl&category=Q-tvgayguide

I do believe gays represent a fairly significant portion of society, roughly 8 percent of the population is openly gay, that's not counting the closet dwellers. If the dollars demand it, the content will shift to that demographic.

Its like why does that lame film company in Utah keep pumping out crap about Home Teaching, Firesides, and Singles Wards? They're making them because the dollars flow from a specific segment of the population.

[Sombeech]

it does not sounds like a very scientific real way to get information
i trus cdc more
beside for shan the statistics are made from who get the test not the real number of people and gays because they know the risk take tested more than hetero does

Like I said, I'll have to research the source. I've contacted the radio show to try and get it for me. I'll let you know.

[DirkHammergate]

it does not sounds like a very scientific real way to get information
i trus cdc more
beside for shan the statistics are made from who get the test not the real number of people and gays because they know the risk take tested more than hetero does

Like I said, I'll have to research the source. I've contacted the radio show to try and get it for me. I'll let you know.

Try the New England Journal of Medicine...

[LJ]

OK - after reading all of this I talked a male friend of mine into seeing the movie. It was OK. I mean it was sad and pretty and all but I had to ask myself if it was really the best movie of the year. I'm sure it will win the Oscar for best picture but I do wonder if maybe it will get some Hollywood votes because of what the movie is about, not because it really is the best movie. But then I can't think of a better movie this year (wedding crashers maybe - it is after all a love story between Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson but that's another thread). Sorry - not adding much to discussion - just found the movie a bit slow and boring.

[Red Deer]

What I CAN'T live with is all of the male/male kissing scenes....

Hey Dean,

If it helps, I'd guestimate there's maybe 10 minutes of guys being intimate in 2.5 hours of movie. There is also as much or more time spent on scenes of male/female intimacy as male/male.

Despite many folks opinions, I still think it's worth seeing - especially on the big screen for the cinematography. As to in vogue/discrimination/whatever, I really don't know from Adam. What I do know is that a guy I grew up with blew his brains out the week before graduation because that was easier than being gay. I promised myself that I'd never let sexual orientation keep me from seeing another person as being just as human as myself. And that was the point I took from this movie as well. Again, YMMV.

Happy Trails,
Reid

[LJ]

If it helps, I'd guestimate there's maybe 10 minutes of guys being intimate in 2.5 hours of movie. There is also as much or more time spent on scenes of male/female intimacy as male/male.



It's kind of funny - I actually found the male/female intimacy harder/more uncomfortable to watch in that the characters were obviously not "with" who they wanted to be with. Felt bad for both the guys and the women.

There was a bunch of loving touches during the whole movie between the guys - I think my male friend found that kind of uncomfortable.

[greyhair biker]

I wasn't going to touch this one but being IN Wyoming and a fan of Heath Ledger I was going to see it with my wife but we didn't - one, she adores Heath and didn't want her image of him to be tainted and two, after witnessing what some poor miner went through after the guys found out he went and saw it...I was embarrassed for the guy and ashamed that I was so easily swayed. Not because I wasn't comfortable with my 'manhood' but because I had a hard time 'handling it' :oops:

[Sombeech]

Funny, if you are uncomfortable with situations like that, how some will say "You must not be comfortable with your own sexuality".

That doesn't make sense. In fact, I'm VERY comfortable with my own sexuality, and I'm very confident with it. This is why it makes me UNCOMFORTABLE with images of the contrary.

It's like saying, "I'm so comfortable with being hetrosexual, I'm willing to do something gay." Not that seeing this movie is suggesting that, but we who are uncomfortable with these things hear that saying all of the time.

Doesn't make sense.

Now, I hear the movie is beautifully shot, has gorgeous landscape scenery, and tells a good story. It sounds like it's a good movie, technically speaking. Just not worth my $8.

[Red Deer]

The problem with HIV passing through heterosexuality, is that it is very difficult for the woman to pass it to the man.


What's really sad is that this false belief is a significant factor behind the rise in heterosexual transmission. The fact is that it's unbelievably easy for a man to transmit the virus to a woman AND it's LESS EASY for a woman to pass it to a man. NOT difficult and definitely NOT VERY difficult.

Happy Trails,
Reid

[Red Deer]

nitmik - I can see you picking up a woman, "Hey baby, those are some nice parts you got there.." :naughty:

Ever see the movie "May"? I don't know if it played in theaters, but it's one of those culty horror films I grove on... And "parts" are integral.

Happy Trails,
Reid

[hesse15]

The problem with HIV passing through heterosexuality, is that it is very difficult for the woman to pass it to the man.


What's really sad is that this false belief is a significant factor behind the rise in heterosexual transmission. The fact is that it's unbelievably easy for a man to transmit the virus to a woman AND it's LESS EASY for a woman to pass it to a man. NOT difficult and definitely NOT VERY difficult.

Happy Trails,
Reid
yes indeed
a false belief that only gay and only drug user were prone to infections led to a lot of infection between "normal" and yes also normal male got infection doing with a woman.
I think a lot of responsability is to give to the church(at least catholic one) that still say bullshits about
and that is why in europe beside people more than 60 and the amount of younger people believing is shrinking a lot
between all the talking is always good use precautions (aka rubber) indipendent of statistics

[greyhair biker]

Well, for years I went to a hair salon and had the same gay guy cut my hair. we were friends & are still friends even though I don't see him much any more. I help design his & his partners' studio (I used to be an interior designer before going in the mine)...I would say I know him well. I don't condone the gay lifestyle but I respect him and he knows it & still is my friend. I believe the Bible...where it says Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve...but I don't have to be prejudice.

[DickHead]

Wow this one has spiraled out of control.
:doorpeak:
I'm outie

[accadacca]

Wow this one has spiraled out of control.
:doorpeak:
I'm outie
Seriously..... :roll:

[TreeHugger]

If anyone is interested, the cast of Brokeback Mountain will be on Oprah on Monday - you can get some insight into the movie.

Wow, this has been a very interesting and insightful dialogue.

I, personally, loved the movie.